External GPS antenna question

Rask Ingemann Lambertsen ccc94453 at vip.cybercity.dk
Sun Jul 5 21:06:07 CEST 2009

On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 09:17:25PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
> Sebastian Krzyszkowiak <seba.dos1 at gmail.com> writes:
> > On 7/4/09, Hammer Armin <ahammer at datazug.ch> wrote:
> >> With the internal gps antenna, the first fix last quite long -
> >> with the external - within 5min to 10min I get a fix.
> >
> > WTF? I'm getting fix easly with *internal* GPS antenna in 30 seconds -
> > 2 minutes...
> Because you already have almanac (and sometimes ephemeris) data.

   Where would I have it from (that Hammer Armin doesn't)?

   I ran the GPS-TTFF script below standing on my balcony. Times with * are
with the --coldstart option.

45* 38 57 48 48 44 44* 45* 52* 44*

   And that's on Debian, which doesn't have the latest-and-greatest FSO
where saving and restoring almanac and ephemeris works. Back when I briefly
used OM 2008.8, I also got a fix in around 45 s. I tried with the Freerunner
lying in the window frame, and then it took 11 minutes to get a fix. My
Freerunner is revision A6 with date code 20080722.


# GPS-TTFF - Find GPS time to first fix using all the important buzz-words
# such as D-bus, Gypsy, freedesktop.org and freesmartphone.org.

# Destinations and paths are listed in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/*.
# Interfaces are "documented" at <URL:http://docs.freesmartphone.org/>.

DBUSCALL_='dbus-send --print-reply=undocumented --system --type=method_call --dest='

if [ "--coldstart" = "$1" ]; then
	rm -f /var/lib/freesmartphone/ogpsd.pickle

# Crude way of stripping white-space from $() output.
GPSPOLICY=$(echo $(${DBUSCALL_}org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.GetResourcePolicy string:GPS))

${DBUSCALL_}org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy string:GPS string:enabled
START=$(date +%s)

# Where is the first return value from GetPosition documented?
while ${DBUSCALL_}org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition \
	| head -n 1 | grep -q -v -F -e 'int32 15' -e 'int32 7'; do
	sleep 1

FINISH=$(date +%s)

echo "Time to first fix: $((${FINISH} - ${START})) s"

${DBUSCALL_}org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition

${DBUSCALL_}org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy string:GPS string:${GPSPOLICY}

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