Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development
wjbaird at alumni.uwaterloo.ca
Thu Jul 16 19:36:37 CEST 2009
Thanks for all this - like most people here, I think this is fantastic news
that gives me some meagre hope for the future of the freerunner.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall <maddog at li.org> wrote:
> One of the issues here is that the project has not exactly been focused
> on one stack of software....ergo the number of cycles that it is taking
> to get any one stack ready has taken a long time. IMHO this is both a
> blessing and a curse. A blessing because the hardware and kernel are
> "tickled" in many ways, making the kernel more robust in the long run
> and a person has choice in the software stack. A curse because instead
> of one intense effort we have several somewhat coordinated efforts.
> >My feeling is that the GTA02 device itself is in pretty good shape
> >compared to the software it runs. So how will the community benefit
> >from a GTA03?
> Yes, I agree the GTA02 is in "pretty good shape" compared to the
> "software it runs". However, it is in "good shape" for the middle of
> 2008.....not necessarily for the year 2009 or even the end of 2008.
> Eventually the tide will turn and the software will be "in good shape"
> while the hardware is perceived as being "long in the tooth".
I hope you are are right that eventually the software will be in better
shape than the hardware. I must admit that in my less optimistic moments,
I wonder about that. The progress towards a stable, easily usable distro
for the FR has been slow.
I agree that finding people who can work on the phone software is a lot
easier than hardware, and I think that this current opportunity is great.
However, I also think that at the moment the software environment requires a
*lot* of work to be ready for more mainstream users.
I'm very happy to hear that there is an organization that can help move the
hardware forward... However, until there's a software environment that is
feature-complete, user-friendly, and stable enough that a mainstream user
can use it, I don't think we're going to find that the 10,000 unit
production limit is a big issue.
Your goals about 100M units sound fantastic - but I think to get to even 1M
units we're going to need a rock-solid, but most importantly, a very
user-friendly software environment. something at least as pretty and easy
to use as a Pre or an iPhone. I'm not convinced that can happen without
more backing than any of the current projects seem to have - you need people
trained in usability, tonnes of usability testing across a wide range of
I know it's a lot to ask, but I don't suppose you've got another ace up your
sleeve? A university with a usability lab and an interest in the usability
of hand-held devices?
Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist
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