[openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out! (Legal status)
Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
maxious at gmail.com
Wed Jul 29 12:00:16 CEST 2009
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Stroller<stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28 Jul 2009, at 11:35, Patryk Benderz wrote:
>> Hi, did you considered legal side of this work? I mean, do GSM
>> in all countries allow us to collect these data?
> The data is publicly observable, so I don't see how they can claim any
> copyright upon it.
The legality of cellid collecting projects has been discussed before
here (and probably also in other communities)
Harald Welte mentioned the potential for legal issues in austria:
>Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:39:31 +0200
>Subject: Re: locating via GSM, revisited (legal sidenote)
>Just as a general note added to the discussion:
>As far as I remember, there has been a highest federal court ruling in
>Austria some time ago, stating that the location information though
>present for anyone to read in the intrinsics of the GSM signal, cannot
>be used without explicit permission by the network operator.
>The point they made was that the subscription contract between the
>operator and the customer covers things like voice calls, data calls,
>GPRS data, etc - but it does not permit the use of GSM signals for
>locating the handset on the customer side.
>I don't say I like this, and I also don't say OM should not investigate
>thsi further. I'm just stating that there are legal issues and somebody
>inside FIC legal should probably do an extensive survey of the legal
>situation all over the target market to make sure OM doesn't get into
But the technology has moved on since april last year and possibly
even google is collecting and submitting back more GSM + GPS data in
this way through it's java google maps clients.
> I don't see that it could be covered by a user agreement, because cell
> towers advertise their presence to users of other networks.
This interests me more! Can we do this with the Calypso GSM module? I
only have sim cards for valid for registration on 1 network but there
are 3 networks available. I'm happy to not be registered to any
network/not have functioning GSM while collecting data about cellids.
Is it already showing up the reports you get in the FSO interface?
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