MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

Pieter Colpaert freepage at
Fri Jun 5 21:15:19 CEST 2009

I think it's a bad idea in general to discuss the topic. MP3's are non
free and should not be used by any openmoko-user. As myself I don't got
any mp3 on my computer, I only use ogg. The only disadvantage of ogg is:
you won't be able to share it with lots of friends, due they probably
use mp3. But as a matter of fact, sharing mp3's with friends is not
concidered very legal. So... There is no problem not using any mp3's on
the openmoko. The solution for people wanting to use openmoko as there
music device: 

let's create a "music uploader" for OM2009 & SHR (on your pc: so should
have a version for linux as well as for mac and wyndaws):
The main screen should give us a selector list of all songs on your pc,
no matter if they're mp3/ogg/wav/etc when uploaded (through scp, that's
easy I guess) they get automatically converted to ogg, which is a quite
good standard to use on the openmoko. So no problems selling openmoko
anymore huh?


On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 15:16 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
> pattens as are now a days is a real PITA, no matter if you don't have
> the libraries installed in the device,if you are cached by those
> pirate... sorry pattens agencies in customs they just have to say to
> the court the device is suitable to play mp3 and you don't have
> license, and your parcel will be retained for months/years, no matter
> the court final decision, you as reseller are fucked because you have
> payed for a material you cannot touch. So orl you arrive an agreement
> with the agency (+money,-less time) or wait for the lottery of the
> court and cross your fingers to have a judge a little bit more techy
> than the average, because if not, your parcel will be returned by
> default, and if the judge has a bad day you surely will pay a penalty.
> Once was said OM was in sue trying to resolve this but I have no more
> info on that for a long time.
> 2009/6/5 Al Johnson <openmoko at>:
> > On Friday 05 June 2009, Christoph Pulster wrote:
> >> > It's more than welcome to see Openmoko Inc. is still very much in
> >> > support of the Freerunner/GTA02 and will provide the community with
> >> > support in areas like the hosting infrastructure as well as the legal
> >> > side (trademarks).
> >>
> >> Please remember the patent infridgements concerning MP3 (
> >> Openmoko Inc. did not solve this issue until today.
> >> As a result, all sales inside EU are patent infridgments, all reseller
> >> inside EU community have to live with the fact, that local customs seize
> >> their Freerunner order anytime.
> >
> > Openmoko removed the mp3 codecs from the images they supply, and from their
> > repositories, causing frustration for many. I don't know what image they now
> > ship with, but would be surprised if they haven't removed the mp3 codecs from
> > that too. If it doesn't contain the codec it can't infringe the patent. What
> > more do you expect them to do?
> >
> >
> >
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