From openmoko-community at meurisse.org Tue Sep 1 00:13:31 2009 From: openmoko-community at meurisse.org (Vincent Meurisse) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 00:13:31 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200909010013.31314.openmoko-community@meurisse.org> On Monday 31 August 2009 21:23:07 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Just a follower from the side - it'd make qtmoko more interesting if > the site had screenshots around.. I made some screenshots. Unfortunately the upload function of the wiki is not working. Take a look at . -- Vincent Meurisse From ed at kapitein.org Tue Sep 1 00:32:09 2009 From: ed at kapitein.org (Ed Kapitein) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:32:09 +0200 Subject: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251757935.6046.2.camel@joepeee> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 16:58 -0400, Cameron Frazier wrote: > Evening all, > > I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so, > and am in need of some advice. I'd like to use my FR over there, and > as such need a prepaid SIM. > > As for requirements; > 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France > (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne) > 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS > 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America > sucks this for reasonable plans). > > I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM. > > Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to > ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this. > > Any suggestions? > > Kind regards, > > Toaster > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Be careful with the gprs, the costs for roaming data is crazy, 10 euro/Mb is no exception ! From hersche at puzzle.ch Tue Sep 1 00:40:49 2009 From: hersche at puzzle.ch (Vinzenz Hersche) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 00:40:49 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200909010040.49986.hersche@puzzle.ch> Am Sonntag, 30. August 2009 14.20:18 schrieb Ahmad Abdel-Yaman: > Hello everyone, I just tried the latest QtMoko release and it's absolutely > excellent. I do have a couple of questions though: 1. Where do I need to > put the images for QtMoko to see them (for example if I want to change the > homescreen background or assign a certain photo to a contact)? And is there > a specific file type that I should use?2. If I want to change the > ringtones, do I still have to replace the original phonering.wav and > alarm.wav with files that have the same name and type or do I simply need > to add the new files to the same directory > (/opt/qtmoko/etc/SystemRingTones)? Thank you.Ahmad i've also two questions.. first, is it now possible to import vcf-files without changing sim-entrys? i must not see the sim-entrys, but i didn't want all the contactname/hp-contacts on my sim-card. second.. does it also delete all sms'es from sim-card? for me, this isn't good, because i couldn't read them then later on shr or something. are some options for these 2 things? i searched, but didn't found.. would be nice to know.. :) greets From hersche at puzzle.ch Tue Sep 1 00:44:05 2009 From: hersche at puzzle.ch (Vinzenz Hersche) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 00:44:05 +0200 Subject: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions In-Reply-To: <20090831211042.GA15585@desktop1-ubuntu> References: <20090831211042.GA15585@desktop1-ubuntu> Message-ID: <200909010044.05671.hersche@puzzle.ch> Am Montag, 31. August 2009 23.10:42 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:58:50PM -0400, Cameron Frazier wrote: > > 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France > > (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne) > > This should be possible with most pre-paid card. However, roaming costs are > not cheap (although they just got a load less expensive, thanks to the > European Parliament), and you'd certainly pay less if you bought a new card > per country unless you are not going to use the card very much. > > > 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS > > AFAIK, this is possible with any pre-paid card. > > > 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America > > sucks this for reasonable plans). > > Again, any decent carrier with offer this. > in switzerland is no prepaid-card with gprs avaible, as i know. just with abonoments. if i'm wrong, please write it into list, i like to had something like this :) but i already searched... > Regards > > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From vendion at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 02:23:29 2009 From: vendion at gmail.com (Adam Jimerson) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:23:29 -0400 Subject: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft & design In-Reply-To: <4A989F7E.9030404@gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80908261838s1832ec26j56f6c2d610587501@mail.gmail.com> <20090827234043.42365a2f@tm4000.deathstar> <4A989F7E.9030404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A9C6981.6090308@gmail.com> Bernd Pr?nster wrote: > Fabian Killus schrieb: >> I did a quick mockup of how I would like to have such a showroom >> look like. The "traditional" openmoko colors were used. >> >> Please comment if you like it or not (I know it's not perfect, just an >> idea). Here comes the png: >> >> http://ji-xiansheng.de/tmp/om_packages_mockup.png >> >> jxs > Please dont make the same mistake that was made relaunching opkg.org: > dont use such huge graphics. > keep in mind that the showroom should maybe also easily viewable @ 480x640. > > just my 2 cents > I agree if the site is not easily viewable from the Freerunner, for people using WiFi (if they are lucky enough), GPRS, or even Bluetooth for internet. Other wise I like the idea on the table, will programs be categorized by the distro they are known to work with, ie Intone works with OM2009 and SHR so will it show up on both? From yangm.cn at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 03:52:20 2009 From: yangm.cn at gmail.com (yangm) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:52:20 +0800 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> As I known about N810, 98% code is open. some driver (such as wifi driver), some core component (such as connectivityManager) are private code. It's a really difficault work to write private code without break GPL. 2009/9/1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:00:32PM +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote: > > Just found the older n800 is supported by OE and mamona runs on it, > > but I did never care about that and google does not help very much in > > understanding how much the device is "open". > > Or how much it is not open (a lot WRT drivers): > > http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages > > Rui > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/fb5432c4/attachment.htm From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 1 04:47:06 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, I've only about finished adding all that I felt was needed. There is some testing that still needs to be done. Once I get these basic features working reliably - I'll move on to adding more features as desired. So the wishlist is open :-) Leonti wrote: > > Things I noticed so far: > - there is no line breaking for cell broadcasting info > - It would be nice to have a possibility to select broadcasting > channels > Yup. I agree. Will sort this out today. Leonti wrote: > > - If I go to Contacts->Select some contact->Send SMS. What I see: > > To: + button "Select Contact" - I'd like to see To: + Contact name > I've just selected + button "Add more recipients" (but shorter :)) > That slipped out during my testing. Actually, sending sms's misses some features anyway :- 1. retry on sending failure 2. breaking up long messages into smaller ones (160 words) 3. adding multiple contacts to whom the message is to be sent Will take this up soon. Steven_** wrote: > > The contacts is nice, particularly the jump feature. It didn't work > for the first few letters I chose (it would instead jump to the end of > the list). > Yes, the list takes a while before its ready. I'm trying to speed it up. Steven_** wrote: > > Also, the sorting should probably be case insensitive. > Will do that. Edder wrote: > > Not sure if this is actually a neo bug or a launcher bug, but it would > be nice if we could somehow change the background color. > Well, changing colours requires a local app theme and I'm not particularly savvy with the .edc concepts and themes. Will take this on in a little while - after the basic features have been added. In the interim I remember having this issue with intone and the initial paroli releases. Let me see if this is similar. All other feedback / ideas / wishes are welcome. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3557977.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nytowl at openmoko.org Tue Sep 1 05:16:32 2009 From: nytowl at openmoko.org (Angus Ainslie) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:16:32 -0600 Subject: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908312116.32298.nytowl@openmoko.org> On August 31, 2009 02:58:50 pm Cameron Frazier wrote: > I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM. > > Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to > ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this. > > Any suggestions? > Last time I went to Germany I picked up a blau.de SIM card. The rates are reasonable compared to Canadian rates. 2 issues with this are the other countries will have high roaming rates and you need to have someone with a German credit card or bank account get it for you. Angus From alephnull at hcoop.net Tue Sep 1 05:21:23 2009 From: alephnull at hcoop.net (Alok G. Singh) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:51:23 +0530 Subject: Adding #1024 fix to buzzfix in India Message-ID: <873a77tkng.fsf@klein.localdomain> Hey Rakshat, There have been a number of success reports[1] from people about replacing C1009 with a 22uF cap. Alternatively, add a 10uF cap in parallel to C1009. I would prefer the first method with a 0805 cap. Is this within the capabilities of the person doing the buzzfix ? TIA. Footnotes: [1] http://www.google.com/search?q=fixing+%231024+successful+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.openmoko.org%2Fpipermail%2Fcommunity%2F -- Alok Vulcans worship peace above all. -- McCoy, "Return to Tomorrow", stardate 4768.3 From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 1 05:24:00 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:24:00 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251695711.3948.31.camel@rp-glum> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote: > I just noticed something strange though: I got a couple of calls, and > I couldn't hear the caller. The phone wakes up and rings, I can > answer, and the caller hears me, but i can't hear anything on the > speaker. This problem only happens on incoming calls, outgoing calls > work just fine. Could this have to do with the phone not waking up > from suspend properly? This is known issue. Workaround is to outgoing call after reboot (e.g. to some non paid number). I think it's more likely related to wrong alsa state settings then suspend. It's quite annoying and i hope to fix this soon. Radek From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 1 05:50:18 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:50:18 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <200909010040.49986.hersche@puzzle.ch> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200909010040.49986.hersche@puzzle.ch> Message-ID: <1251777018.4142.10.camel@rp-glum> Vinzenz Hersche wrote: > first, is it now possible to import vcf-files without changing sim-entrys? i > must not see the sim-entrys, but i didn't want all the contactname/hp-contacts > on my sim-card. No idea here, i would have to check sources... > second.. does it also delete all sms'es from sim-card? for me, this isn't > good, because i couldn't read them then later on shr or something. Yes. Maybe it could be made optional. This is the commit and the place where it could be changed: http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/commit/d9eb3b8d2e4b4c4e339c6249c192e1cde0bcdcc9 Regards Radek From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 1 05:52:26 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:52:26 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <200909010013.31314.openmoko-community@meurisse.org> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200909010013.31314.openmoko-community@meurisse.org> Message-ID: <1251777146.4142.13.camel@rp-glum> > On Monday 31 August 2009 21:23:07 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > Just a follower from the side - it'd make qtmoko more interesting if > > the site had screenshots around.. I was hoping someone else will do it :) > I made some screenshots. Unfortunately the upload function of the wiki is not > working. Take a look at . Great, i sent mail to Fale, he is admin of qtmoko so he will hopefully fix this. Thanks Radek From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 1 06:21:32 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:21:32 +0200 Subject: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251778892.4142.22.camel@rp-glum> Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > I would like to use my freerunner in a plug&play mode. Just attach to the > computer, and simply ssh in using terminal or nautilus. You have to setup dhcp server on your freerunner. E.g. on debian: apt-get install dhcp3-server edit dhcp server configuration: nano /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf and place something like this there: option domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220; option routers 192.168.0.202; subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option routers 192.168.0.1; # Unknown clients get this pool. pool { #option domain-name-servers bogus.example.com; max-lease-time 7200; range 192.168.0.200 192.168.0.201; allow unknown clients; } } Now restart dhcps server: /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart plug your Freerunner and NetworkManager should always assign the right IP address. Regards Radek From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 06:33:41 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:33:41 +0300 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <200909010013.31314.openmoko-community@meurisse.org> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200909010013.31314.openmoko-community@meurisse.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Vincent Meurisse wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2009 21:23:07 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: >> Just a follower from the side - it'd make qtmoko more interesting if >> the site had screenshots around.. > I made some screenshots. Unfortunately the upload function of the wiki is not > working. Take a look at . Yes, this is what I wanted to see, great! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 06:48:47 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:48:47 +0300 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It doesn't have ofono: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/ofono.txt Aug 31 07:27:40 Hi, everybody. I (and others) suspect that ofono will be used in the upcoming "n900" device. What driver will be used for that, ISI? Is it some userspace library communicating with usb devices via kernel "phonet" driver? I tried googling before asking ;) Aug 31 07:32:22 PaulFertser: oFono isn't part of Maemo 5 yet. The ISI modem plugin needs a lot of work before that can happen. :) Aug 31 07:32:56 akiniemi: we all assumed that one of the reasons for bootsting oFono work is the upcoming device from Nokia... Aug 31 07:33:24 akiniemi: what will it use for telephony then? Aug 31 07:36:37 PaulFertser: proprietary stack, built on top of PhoNet Aug 31 07:37:04 But oFono is what we're expecting to use in the future. We just haven't been able to say it aloud. ;) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From david at tuxbrain.com Tue Sep 1 07:23:50 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:23:50 +0200 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> References: <5c6ceea80908281910i19d2c641ic83a2df14bc1a393@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80908281931l74154a3bw23d39843528330d@mail.gmail.com> <200908291000.06280.mok@mnet-online.de> <20090829092748.GF28624@nysv.org> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> 2009/8/31 Markus T?rnqvist : > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 09:00:44AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >> >>Joao, has those fix been uploaded to the bzr repo? > > Have you checked it out? > > Just wondering what's happening :) the 8215 packages from all, armv4t and gta-02 from shr-unstable parsed successfully using the latest changes of Joao :) > > -- > mjt > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From xelapond at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 07:41:12 2009 From: xelapond at gmail.com (Alex Teiche) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:41:12 -0700 Subject: Not really yet usable. but an idea for multitouch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99cd09480908312241t536c6690w2c1122ab682450c9@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have been researching Multi-Touch for the past year as a Hobbyist, and I consider myself somewhat well versed in the technology:) While that method would definately work, its obviously going to be cumbersom and not portable at all. I have been experimenting with a method of Multi-Touch that uses an array of Phototransistors, and I currently have a 8x8 Array working very well(3x3 Inch active sensing area, plenty to cover the FreeRunner's screen). Its only issue is speed, which is going to be fixed soon with my Digi-Key order that is on its way. Mine obviously isn't perfect either, when I built it I had a more Laptop/Tablet shaped device in mind(just because the array is ~1/4 inch thick), but I do believe it will be easily adaptable. Here is a link to my site where I have a video and explaination on an older test I did: http://www.xelapond.com/dotclear/index.php?post/2009/06/04/Code%2C-Schematics%2C-Diagrams And here is a picture of my newest version, 8x8 array: http://www.xelapond.com/files/r1-8x8-angle.jpg In the near future I plan on somehow interfacing this to the freerunner. I will probably have to separate the screen from the device, and place this behind it(so I can interact with elements on the screen). I'm very passionate about Multi-Touch, if you do get anything with a WiiMote working, be sure to post a link+vid:) I'd love to see it. ~Alex Teiche On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Lothar Behrens wrote: > Hi, > > I have seen this video and due to a wide angle, a similar solution may > be adaptable: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s5EvhHy7eQ&feature=related > > Any comments? > > Lothar > > -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de > Lothar Behrens > Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 > 73252 Lenningen > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090831/199bb29f/attachment.htm From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Tue Sep 1 08:12:07 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:12:07 +0200 Subject: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A9CBB37.4050908@wollishausen.de> Cameron Frazier schrieb: > Evening all, > > I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so, > and am in need of some advice. I'd like to use my FR over there, and > as such need a prepaid SIM. > > As for requirements; > 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France > (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne) > 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS > 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America > sucks this for reasonable plans). > > I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM. > > Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to > ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this. > > Any suggestions? > > Kind regards, > The cheapest gprs prepaid in germany is simyo: www.simyo.de 9 c't / MB -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 From mjt at nysv.org Tue Sep 1 08:38:10 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:38:10 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80908281910i19d2c641ic83a2df14bc1a393@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80908281931l74154a3bw23d39843528330d@mail.gmail.com> <200908291000.06280.mok@mnet-online.de> <20090829092748.GF28624@nysv.org> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090901063810.GP28624@nysv.org> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 07:23:50AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >> Just wondering what's happening :) >the 8215 packages from all, armv4t and gta-02 from shr-unstable parsed >successfully using the latest changes of Joao :) Wonderful news! What's the next step then? Set something up the dev server? You want my help with that? Then we need to figure out features and a kind of a roadmap! :) -- mjt From mjt at nysv.org Tue Sep 1 08:50:01 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:50:01 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: References: <5c6ceea80908281910i19d2c641ic83a2df14bc1a393@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80908281931l74154a3bw23d39843528330d@mail.gmail.com> <200908291000.06280.mok@mnet-online.de> <20090829092748.GF28624@nysv.org> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <20090901065001.GQ28624@nysv.org> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:19:07PM +0100, Joao Pinto wrote: >Hello, >sorry but I need to quit the list, it has more traffic than I can handle :( Heh, I ignore threads that don't look relevant to the showroom, but sure :) >Please feel free add me on the cc whenever you would like to have my input. >I will also be available on IRC as always :) Obrigado :) -- mjt From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 08:54:46 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:54:46 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80908281910i19d2c641ic83a2df14bc1a393@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80908281931l74154a3bw23d39843528330d@mail.gmail.com> <200908291000.06280.mok@mnet-online.de> <20090829092748.GF28624@nysv.org> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >> Just wondering what's happening :) > the 8215 packages from all, armv4t and gta-02 from shr-unstable parsed > successfully using the latest changes of Joao :) WOW David, this is awesome!!!! Now a) filter all libraries away b) maybe filter away files with no proper .desktop file.. Or something not to have it bloated and impossible to find anything there :) So what's the thing with descriptions? Do they have to be filled in manually - no changes of using some importer script there too? Screenshots need to be added manually of course. David: I'd like you to share your work with at least Markus. It's nice to hear that you're doing progress but as this is supposed to be a community effort, it's vital that also some other know about what's happening and can go and learn the code we're using etc. Can't wait to hear/see more. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From madhatter at teaparty.net Tue Sep 1 08:54:57 2009 From: madhatter at teaparty.net (Tom Yates) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:54:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2009/8/31 Tom Yates : >> secondly, does that not mean that a call from 01223456789 (in the UK) >> should match a contact listed as +441223456789, when the following >> settings apply? > > it works perfectly for me - i didn't put anything except a '0' in the > area code field though that's great news. are you in the UK? and if so, could you let me know a) your /etc/phone-utils.conf b) a couple of contacts from your address book (i don't want to know the numbers, just the first three or four digits so i can see what format you store them in) and c) confirmation that the numbers are resolved to contact names for incoming calls AND call log entries AND SMS messages? Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > International prefix is *never* +. Most probably (as in whole Europe) > you have to set it as 00. ok, done. i tried both, and it didn't help. > What is that area_code=1223? Try with area_code blanked. that's my local area code (comparable to "179" in the wiki article i sent you). i have blanked it out (though i had to edit the file by hand for that as the GUI won't take an empty value, saying it must be a number) but i still don't have perfect resolution. at the moment: /etc/phone-utils.conf says [local] international_prefix=00 national_prefix=0 country_code=44 area_code= my first contact is now (six zeros substituted for real number) wife 00447971000000 and her call log entry is right, her text messages show as coming from her, but her incoming calls still show up as just "07971000000". thanks to both of your for your follow-ups, hopefully you can help me get this 100% working! -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net From larrycow at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 09:06:40 2009 From: larrycow at gmail.com (Olivier Migeot) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:06:40 +0200 Subject: fixing bug #1024 successful reports? In-Reply-To: <4A9BFF9B.2030402@free.fr> References: <4A65B919.1090606@gmail.com> <200908301552.26840.david@garabana.com> <4A9BFF9B.2030402@free.fr> Message-ID: <389eeb980909010006m7f5613der95e1e8cb4ec4d72@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > I will "patch" some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post here. Where in France are you doing this? I could all be very interested ;) -- Olivier From ahmad221284 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 1 09:25:37 2009 From: ahmad221284 at yahoo.com (Ahmad Abdel-Yaman) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 00:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251695711.3948.31.camel@rp-glum> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> Message-ID: <946952.87302.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> So if I reboot my FR and make one outgoing call to any number, the incoming calls after that should be ok until my next reboot? Ahmad ________________________________ From: Radek Polak To: List for Openmoko community discussion Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 6:24:00 AM Subject: Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote: > I just noticed something strange though: I got a couple of calls, and > I couldn't hear the caller. The phone wakes up and rings, I can > answer, and the caller hears me, but i can't hear anything on the > speaker. This problem only happens on incoming calls, outgoing calls > work just fine. Could this have to do with the phone not waking up > from suspend properly? This is known issue. Workaround is to outgoing call after reboot (e.g. to some non paid number). I think it's more likely related to wrong alsa state settings then suspend. It's quite annoying and i hope to fix this soon. Radek _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community at lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/f8ddb8cb/attachment.htm From mjt at nysv.org Tue Sep 1 09:29:15 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:29:15 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: References: <5c6ceea80908281910i19d2c641ic83a2df14bc1a393@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80908281931l74154a3bw23d39843528330d@mail.gmail.com> <200908291000.06280.mok@mnet-online.de> <20090829092748.GF28624@nysv.org> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:54:46AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > >Now >a) filter all libraries away >b) maybe filter away files with no proper .desktop file.. Yeah, common sense ftw, maybe some libraries may or may not be relevant to our interests, but we'd figure those out. Do you have a guess on what the shares are of libraries and packages without .desktop? >Or something not to have it bloated and impossible to find anything there :) +1 >So what's the thing with descriptions? Do they have to be filled in >manually - no changes of using some importer script there too? >Screenshots need to be added manually of course. If a source provides only only binary, we should be able to take that binary's description and use it for the application. Note that source, binary and application are different concepts here. >David: I'd like you to share your work with at least Markus. It's nice >to hear that you're doing progress but as this is supposed to be a >community effort, it's vital that also some other know about what's >happening and can go and learn the code we're using etc. Preferrably not just me, chacnes are someone with more spare time would accomplish things faster, but at least I still like to help out :) Thanks guys! -- mjt From thomas.hocedez at free.fr Tue Sep 1 09:31:20 2009 From: thomas.hocedez at free.fr (Thomas HOCEDEZ) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:31:20 +0200 Subject: fixing bug #1024 successful reports? In-Reply-To: <389eeb980909010006m7f5613der95e1e8cb4ec4d72@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A65B919.1090606@gmail.com> <200908301552.26840.david@garabana.com> <4A9BFF9B.2030402@free.fr> <389eeb980909010006m7f5613der95e1e8cb4ec4d72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A9CCDC8.5000304@free.fr> Olivier Migeot a ?crit : > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > > >> I will "patch" some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post here. >> > > Where in France are you doing this? I could all be very interested ;) > > I'm from the very north (Lille) and surroundings. Let me know if you're interrested . From perezdiez at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 09:35:08 2009 From: perezdiez at gmail.com (Jose Luis Perez Diez) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:35:08 +0200 Subject: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200909010935.08266.perezdiez@gmail.com> El Monday, 31 de August de 2009 18:40:33 Laszlo KREKACS va escriure: > Hi! > > I would like to use my freerunner in a plug&play mode. Just attach to the > computer, and simply ssh in using terminal or nautilus. I've it working on leny with the following configs: on /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules I force the frerruner to be usb0 see (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OUI): # USB device 0x1457:0x5122 (cdc_ether) freeruner SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", \ ATTR{address}=="00:1f:11:??:??:??", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", \ NAME="usb0" set /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/network/freerunner as tell in the wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking#Masquerading_support and for $HOME/.ssh/config use: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking#Changing_host_keys From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 09:36:09 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:36:09 +0200 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Hi Risto, could you make those polls available longer? I assume there are some amount of users who do not follow mailing list. We should let them vote also. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From kazer at altern.org Tue Sep 1 09:36:34 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 02:36:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: fixing bug #1024 successful reports? In-Reply-To: <389eeb980909010006m7f5613der95e1e8cb4ec4d72@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A65B919.1090606@gmail.com> <200908301552.26840.david@garabana.com> <4A9BFF9B.2030402@free.fr> <389eeb980909010006m7f5613der95e1e8cb4ec4d72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251790594509-3558879.post@n2.nabble.com> Olivier Migeot wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ > wrote: > >> I will "patch" some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post >> here. > > Where in France are you doing this? I could all be very interested ;) > > It's around Lille. A fix-party is scheduled at 'La braderie' on saturday (5th sept.). Mine should get patched soon (by Thomas) and i'll post feedback, if he doesn't burn my phone. Otherwise, i'll post insults ;) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/fixing-bug-1024-successful-reports-tp3299014p3558879.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 09:39:53 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:39:53 +0300 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > Hi Risto, > could you make those polls available longer? I assume there are some > amount of users who do not follow mailing list. We should let them vote > also. So what's your idea to reach them? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From xelapond at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 09:43:17 2009 From: xelapond at gmail.com (Alex Teiche) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 00:43:17 -0700 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice. Another poll that should be done at some point is what phone-front end people use. I like both Litephone and Paroli, and i'm wondering which one I should spend my time working on. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Patryk Benderz > wrote: > > Hi Risto, > > could you make those polls available longer? I assume there are some > > amount of users who do not follow mailing list. We should let them vote > > also. > > So what's your idea to reach them? > > > r > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/7d99a394/attachment.htm From pat_buergi124 at gmx.de Tue Sep 1 09:44:34 2009 From: pat_buergi124 at gmx.de (buergi) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:44:34 +0200 Subject: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions In-Reply-To: <4A9CBB37.4050908@wollishausen.de> References: <4A9CBB37.4050908@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <4A9CD0E2.2000907@gmx.de> Matthias Huber schrieb: > The cheapest gprs prepaid in germany is simyo: www.simyo.de 9 c't / MB 9c/MB? where did you get that from, on [1] they write 24c/MB. I use medionmobile/alditalk which is the same price per MB. And they also offer a 24h-flat(throttled to 56kbit/s after 1GB) for 2EUR and a 30-days-flat(throttled after 5GB) for 15EUR. Especially the 24h-flat is perfect for a day trip and cheaper than a cup of coffee :D [1] http://www.simyo.de/de/informieren/mobiles_internet.html From thomas.hocedez at free.fr Tue Sep 1 09:55:07 2009 From: thomas.hocedez at free.fr (Thomas HOCEDEZ) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:55:07 +0200 Subject: fixing bug #1024 successful reports? In-Reply-To: <1251790594509-3558879.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4A65B919.1090606@gmail.com> <200908301552.26840.david@garabana.com> <4A9BFF9B.2030402@free.fr> <389eeb980909010006m7f5613der95e1e8cb4ec4d72@mail.gmail.com> <1251790594509-3558879.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4A9CD35B.1090802@free.fr> As the "Braderie" is a Giant Car boot sale, I will only fix #1024, the Buzzfix needs a more quiet place to do it. Or If you're not affraid of what could happen to your phone... P.S. : If I don't post message after Thursday, call the Police, Kazer would have killed me ... KaZeR a ?crit : > > Olivier Migeot wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ >> wrote: >> >> >>> I will "patch" some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post >>> here. >>> >> Where in France are you doing this? I could all be very interested ;) >> >> >> > > It's around Lille. A fix-party is scheduled at 'La braderie' on saturday > (5th sept.). > Mine should get patched soon (by Thomas) and i'll post feedback, if he > doesn't burn my phone. Otherwise, i'll post insults ;) > > From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 1 09:58:58 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:58:58 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <946952.87302.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251695711.3948.31.camel@rp-glum> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> <946952.87302.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1251791938.17240.0.camel@rp-glum> Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote: > So if I reboot my FR and make one outgoing call to any number, the > incoming calls after that should be ok until my next reboot? > > Ahmad > > Yes Regards Radek From larrycow at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 10:10:28 2009 From: larrycow at gmail.com (Olivier Migeot) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:10:28 +0200 Subject: fixing bug #1024 successful reports? In-Reply-To: <4A9CD35B.1090802@free.fr> References: <4A65B919.1090606@gmail.com> <200908301552.26840.david@garabana.com> <4A9BFF9B.2030402@free.fr> <389eeb980909010006m7f5613der95e1e8cb4ec4d72@mail.gmail.com> <1251790594509-3558879.post@n2.nabble.com> <4A9CD35B.1090802@free.fr> Message-ID: <389eeb980909010110u3fa29798j6f6668fad92e08f9@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > As the "Braderie" is a Giant Car boot sale, I will only fix #1024, the > Buzzfix needs a more quiet place to do it. Or If you're not affraid of > what could happen to your phone... My... I won't be able to make it. Too bad. I hope something similar will occur around Paris later. Good luck with the Braderie anyway. -- Olivier From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 10:17:33 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:17:33 +0200 Subject: New Freerunner Owner wants to help out! In-Reply-To: <8b48b1570908310610p6dc57538re4725648a7564061@mail.gmail.com> References: <99cd09480908281947j1335040bx275d8436e558d7b3@mail.gmail.com> <4A9BB81B.6070806@hist.no> <8b48b1570908310610p6dc57538re4725648a7564061@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251793053.4838.10.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > > .. or help with Litephone, which works with SHR and already uses > opimd :-) > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Litephone Micha?, can you tell me where is some bug track for litephone? I couldn't find it. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From rusolis at poczta.fm Tue Sep 1 10:24:01 2009 From: rusolis at poczta.fm (Michal Brzozowski) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:24:01 +0200 Subject: New Freerunner Owner wants to help out! In-Reply-To: <1251793053.4838.10.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> References: <99cd09480908281947j1335040bx275d8436e558d7b3@mail.gmail.com> <4A9BB81B.6070806@hist.no> <8b48b1570908310610p6dc57538re4725648a7564061@mail.gmail.com> <1251793053.4838.10.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <8b48b1570909010124o258b00e2m7be2831d08121178@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Patryk Benderz > [cut] > > > > .. or help with Litephone, which works with SHR and already uses > > opimd :-) > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Litephone > Micha?, can you tell me where is some bug track for litephone? I > couldn't find it. > Christof has just set up a trac on http://litephone.org. There are no tickets yet, but some stuff should show up today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was too busy with work of late. Anyways, I guess we need to plan on the dates and mode of transport of phones to NCR. Till now, I know of only following people (through this mail chain): NCR: Gora Mohanty (1973) Vibhav Sharma (FR - ??) /me Vikas Saurabh (FR - A5) -- In for buzz fix in 1024....shaky about bass fix Bangalore: Shashank Bharadwaj (????) Alok G. Singh (????) Ganesh Krishna (????) ?????: Chetan Chandel (????) I am unsure if 1973 also needs hardware mods...but I still took the liberty to include Gora. This number is very small as compared to 150 (number of FRs that Rakshat said have been sold in India)...is there anyone else? I wanted to all this in wiki but I don't think we are still planned enough to update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty Regarding the fixes, there are basically 3 hardware mods: * Buzz fix - the whole point of starting the program * 1024 recamping fix - there is a lot of re-registration thereby reducing the battery time * Bass fix - probably, the FR circuitry cuts off certain frequencies thereby reducing quality audio output Further reading: 1024:: Re: The "trivial" #1024 GSM fix --> What you need is 0805 ceramic capacitor, 22uF, 6.3V (or more). fixing bug #1024 successful reports? --> And using ceramic cap is recommended because low ESR is needed and electrolitic caps can't provide that. If you connect your electrolitic cap in parallel with the original one (as you did) then you're probably ok but nevertheless i recommend to use ceramic. Also shield itself is connected to the GND plane so i wouldn't go that far for a ground. Bug #1024 (oscillating re-camping), a possible solution --> The other solution is to remove C1009 and replace it with a 22 uF capacitor. Daniel Willmann has done this successfully with a few phones. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/attachments/20090525/d968961a/attachment-0001.jpeg Bass fix:: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix --> One from Paul Ferster seems promising, the other one doesn't(can't) use the 100uF cuz of the size https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gta02-core/2009-August/000366.html --> describes which capacitor is good and why --Vikas PS: I think we can start off with getting ready for delivering FR (from Bang...anywhere else???). I guess Zoheb would be right person to streamline this process!! From robin.paulson at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 10:37:13 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:37:13 +1200 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Tom Yates : > that's great news. ?are you in the UK? NZ, but it shouldn't matter > and if so, could you let me know a) your /etc/phone-utils.conf b) a couple [local] international_prefix = 00 national_prefix = 0 country_code = 64 area_code = 0 > of contacts from your address book (i don't want to know the numbers, just > the first three or four digits so i can see what format you store them in) +447752xxxxxx (uk mobile) +64210xxxxxxx (nz mobile) +64210xxxxxxx (nz mobile) 0210xxxxxx (nz mobile) 04 917 xxxx (nz landline) > and c) confirmation that the numbers are resolved to contact names for > incoming calls AND call log entries AND SMS messages? incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so i can't help at the moment call log: yes messages: yes > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> International prefix is *never* +. Most probably (as in whole Europe) >> you have to set it as 00. i wouldn't be so sure on that. mine is 00, that's for nz. it varies by country > ok, done. ?i tried both, and it didn't help. > >> What is that area_code=1223? Try with area_code blanked. > > that's my local area code (comparable to "179" in the wiki article i sent > you). it's badly worded, it means the prefix to area codes (i.e. for vast majority of countries, '0') From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Tue Sep 1 10:40:28 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:40:28 +0200 Subject: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer In-Reply-To: <20090829101334.33ecd2e2@vanek.robe.cz> References: <4A98DE7E.4030309@wollishausen.de> <20090829101334.33ecd2e2@vanek.robe.cz> Message-ID: <4A9CDDFC.3090002@wollishausen.de> >> wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli? >> > > > good idea. please have a look at [1] where redesign of shr phone apps > is being drafted. feel free to contribute there, > > petr > > > [1]http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/phoneui > > ... and for the moment, as i think, it should be only the edje-file, can someone help me to make the button green and the release button red ? -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Alex Teiche : > A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice. i use the wiki perhaps 2/3 times a week. i haven't been to the front page in months From rms at 1407.org Tue Sep 1 10:45:05 2009 From: rms at 1407.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:45:05 +0100 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT software. If it were applications... you can live without them. Important drivers you can't. This is just to show the fallacy value of "it only 2%". Not all parts are of equal worth. Remove those 2% right now and then come back with the experience results. Rui On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:52:20AM +0800, yangm wrote: > As I known about N810, 98% code is open. > some driver (such as wifi driver), some core component (such as > connectivityManager) are private code. > > It's a really difficault work to write private code without break GPL. > > 2009/9/1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:00:32PM +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote: > > > Just found the older n800 is supported by OE and mamona runs on it, > > > but I did never care about that and google does not help very much in > > > understanding how much the device is "open". > > > > Or how much it is not open (a lot WRT drivers): > > > > http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 10:46:44 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:46:44 +0200 Subject: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer In-Reply-To: <4A9CDDFC.3090002@wollishausen.de> References: <4A98DE7E.4030309@wollishausen.de> <20090829101334.33ecd2e2@vanek.robe.cz> <4A9CDDFC.3090002@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, Matthias Huber wrote: > >>> wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli? >>> >> >> >> good idea. please have a look at [1] where redesign of shr phone apps >> is being drafted. feel free to contribute there, >> >> petr >> >> >> [1]http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/phoneui >> >> > > ... and for the moment, as i think, it should be only the edje-file, can > someone help me to make the button green and the release button red ? > > -- > Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen > Matthias Huber > Kohlstattstr. 14 > 86459 Wollishausen > Tel: 08238-7998 > LPI000181125 > > In edc files, in button definitions (it's easy to find them out): Green: color: 0 255 0 255; Red: color: 255 0 0 255; But probably that won't look so good. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 10:47:41 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:47:41 +0200 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, Tom Yates wrote: > i have blanked it out (though i had to edit the file by hand for > that as the GUI won't take an empty value, saying it must be a number) Oh, that's bug. Fixing it now, thanks for mentioning that ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From xelapond at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 10:47:39 2009 From: xelapond at gmail.com (Alex Teiche) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 01:47:39 -0700 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2009/9/1 Alex Teiche : > > A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice. > > i use the wiki perhaps 2/3 times a week. i haven't been to the front > page in months > Better idea? > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/33df24e5/attachment.htm From dscaini at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 10:47:53 2009 From: dscaini at gmail.com (Davide Scaini) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:47:53 +0200 Subject: Freerunner & wireless internet In-Reply-To: References: <4A951A58.7040505@hist.no> <20090826115008.GA16686@roque.1407.org> <359c5480908260543kb529049td13b633b4d900703@mail.gmail.com> <18db98c80908281552n14f9cf32ne403782397b95c4b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18db98c80909010147p3d638cf9kf4e4e41688281e5e@mail.gmail.com> I'm using a real .28-rc4 that works fine with wifi but has some issues with telephony reliability. (and right now I have no idea where you can find that kernel over the internet... I have a copy on my hd) You can try the one from shr-testing repos that is reposted as a .28-stable but it's an .29-rc2 ... i tryed it and it seems to work fine even with wifi. Give a try: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ don't forget to download and untar the modules, then reboot twice... et voil?, it works! On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Michele Brocco wrote: > On 8/29/09, Davide Scaini wrote: > > which kernel? you need the perfect blend :) > > e.g. i use a 2.6.28-rc4 with nwa. no a single freeze! > > > > On 8/28/09, Michele Brocco wrote: > >> On 8/26/09, Nicola Mfb wrote: > >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Michele Brocco > >>> wrote: > >>> [...] > >>>> For me in SHR-U with mofi wifi reconnects after resume (just with the > >>>> same essid however). It just doesnt re-request a dhcp lease, have to > >>>> call udhcpc manually then. Does the dhcp-lease re-request after > >>>> re-connection to the AP work for u guys? > >>> > >>> Try NWA, it listens for a wpa_supplicant dbus signal occourring when > >>> the network status changes, in the case of disconnection/reassociation > >>> it respawns the dhcp client. That's typical in a suspend/resume cycle. > >>> > >> Unfortunately NWA does not find any network here. And when i start it > >> sequentially more than one time all my phone freezes. > >> Any clues? > >> Btw. I like the qtgui! > >> > I am running 2.6.29-rc3 from the SHR-U repositories. So that might be > the reason. Maybe i will have a try if I find the kernel image and > modules somewhere to download. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/62b49586/attachment-0001.htm From robin.paulson at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 10:51:44 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:51:44 +1200 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Alex Teiche : > Better idea? yes: don't harass people if they want to take part in the community, they'll join the list, see the email and maybe answer the survey. if they aren't subscribed to the list, it's probably cos they don't want to be an active member of the community From djdas at djdas.net Tue Sep 1 10:56:07 2009 From: djdas at djdas.net (DJDAS) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:56:07 +0200 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto: > I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that > is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT > software. > > Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to care if Nokia uses proprietary drivers on the N900? ;) Bye! From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 11:00:11 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:00:11 +0300 Subject: Community news tomorrow - news needed! Message-ID: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02 Please add new application releases, any important e-mails from the lists etc etc, news from different distributions etc r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 11:02:21 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:02:21 +0300 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: (I personally think that we've already seen what we want: what's the most popular distro, and how much more popular it is than the others and the same for the boot loader -> I'm sure the results will not radically change, and OTOH my guess is that people who don't read theses lists etc are not that active in using it either.. I might be wrong of course) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From david at garabana.com Tue Sep 1 11:07:50 2009 From: david at garabana.com (David Garabana Barro) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:07:50 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <200909011107.50980.david@garabana.com> On Monday 31 August 2009 23:39:46 Dan Staley wrote: > I'm extremely excited about going out and using this app to help me find > some! Thanks! Same here! Thank you very much for this killer app! From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 11:08:06 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:08:06 +0200 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <1251796086.4838.13.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > So what's your idea to reach them? through CU (I can see you already did this, thanks) but make this poll last longer and invite people to vote with us. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From thomas.hocedez at free.fr Tue Sep 1 11:14:10 2009 From: thomas.hocedez at free.fr (Thomas HOCEDEZ) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:14:10 +0200 Subject: fixing bug #1024 successful reports? In-Reply-To: <389eeb980909010110u3fa29798j6f6668fad92e08f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A65B919.1090606@gmail.com> <200908301552.26840.david@garabana.com> <4A9BFF9B.2030402@free.fr> <389eeb980909010006m7f5613der95e1e8cb4ec4d72@mail.gmail.com> <1251790594509-3558879.post@n2.nabble.com> <4A9CD35B.1090802@free.fr> <389eeb980909010110u3fa29798j6f6668fad92e08f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A9CE5E2.4050200@free.fr> Olivier Migeot a ?crit : > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > >> As the "Braderie" is a Giant Car boot sale, I will only fix #1024, the >> Buzzfix needs a more quiet place to do it. Or If you're not affraid of >> what could happen to your phone... >> > > My... I won't be able to make it. Too bad. I hope something similar > will occur around Paris later. Good luck with the Braderie anyway. > > Okay, but if you come on our coutry side one day, you'll be welcome to be fixed ! From nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com Tue Sep 1 11:17:59 2009 From: nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com (Niels Heyvaert) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:17:59 +0000 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >> Better idea? > > yes: don't harass people > > if they want to take part in the community, they'll join the list, see > the email and maybe answer the survey. if they aren't subscribed to > the list, it's probably cos they don't want to be an active member of > the community Mind you, this list is not the only list to do with the Freerunner. I took the liberty to post a message on another forum (http://forum.koolu.org/) and mailinglist (android-freerunner at android.koolu.org) announcing the poll. I've subscribed to the other list and visit the forum on a daily basis. Was not trying to influence the results towards Android, but just wanted to inform other parts of the FR community. Maybe there are other lists or forums where we could announce the poll? Niels. _________________________________________________________________ Lentekriebels? Speel samen met je vrienden de spelletjes die Windows Live je aanbiedt! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl/play From mickey at vanille-media.de Tue Sep 1 11:21:53 2009 From: mickey at vanille-media.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:21:53 +0200 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> Message-ID: <200909011121.53787.mickey@vanille-media.de> On Tuesday 01 September 2009 10:56:07 DJDAS wrote: > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto: > > I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that > > is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT > > software. > > Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's > VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to care if Nokia uses proprietary > drivers on the N900? ;) There's a difference between closed firmware providing a standard protocol and a proprietary ASIC providing a closed-source binary driver using a proprietary command language to talk to the hardware. None of the Nxx tablets are fully functional with free software. The FreeRunner is. :M: From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 11:21:51 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:21:51 +0200 Subject: Community news tomorrow - news needed! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251796911.4838.14.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Dnia 2009-09-01, wto o godzinie 12:00 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa pisze: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02 > > Please add new application releases, any important e-mails from the > lists etc etc, news from different distributions etc Good to know that somebody else also takes care :) -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From tanuva at googlemail.com Tue Sep 1 11:25:43 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:25:43 +0200 Subject: Community news tomorrow - news needed! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251797143.3481.4.camel@d-wwow> Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 12:00 +0300 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02 > > Please add new application releases, any important e-mails from the > lists etc etc, news from different distributions etc I have added the Advanced Geocaching Tool there; can someone tell me how to upload a screenshot? -- Marcel From rms at 1407.org Tue Sep 1 11:27:01 2009 From: rms at 1407.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:27:01 +0100 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> Message-ID: <20090901092701.GC31555@roque.1407.org> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 10:56:07AM +0200, DJDAS wrote: > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto: > > I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that > > is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT > > software. > > > > > Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's > VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to care if Nokia uses proprietary > drivers on the N900? ;) No, it's firmware running on their chips. If it was the driver than the following command would result in ONE instead of ZERO :) root at om-gta02 ~ $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted 0 Compare that to: * energy support * wifi * flasher * ... Rui From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 11:30:39 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:30:39 +0300 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > Mind you, this list is not the only list to do with the Freerunner. I took the liberty to post a message on another forum (http://forum.koolu.org/) and mailinglist (android-freerunner at android.koolu.org) announcing the poll. This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks! If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other need to spread the word. > Maybe there are other lists or forums where we could announce the poll? Don't know, possibly, I hope people will forward this there. Or did already a week ago.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From higleylh at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 11:33:33 2009 From: higleylh at gmail.com (Lowell Higley) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:33:33 +0200 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > (I personally think that we've already seen what we want: what's the > most popular distro, and how much more popular it is than the others > and the same for the boot loader -> I'm sure the results will not > radically change, and OTOH my guess is that people who don't read > theses lists etc are not that active in using it either.. I might be > wrong of course) > > r > > > I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of the usage votes. I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the results significantly. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It tried: part { name, "button_call"; type, SWALLOW; mouse_events, 1; description { state, "default" 0.0; color, 0 255 0 255; rel1 { relative, 0.00 0.85; } rel2 { relative, 0.33 1; } } } someone of the e-experts ? -- Matzehuber From yangm.cn at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 11:43:02 2009 From: yangm.cn at gmail.com (yangm) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 17:43:02 +0800 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> Message-ID: <416e897e0909010243m589702b7m36381951840acabc@mail.gmail.com> I agree, I think Nokia don't care the driver code is open or close, because it's not the value of nokia, Maybe it's chipset productor's value. Maybe the operator required. Anyway, if you don't plan update update the drvier, you need not care it. 2009/9/1 DJDAS > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto: > > I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that > > is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT > > software. > > > > > Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's > VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to care if Nokia uses proprietary > drivers on the N900? ;) > Bye! > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Helge Hafting From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 11:53:27 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:53:27 +0200 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <416e897e0909010243m589702b7m36381951840acabc@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> <416e897e0909010243m589702b7m36381951840acabc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, yangm wrote: > Anyway, if you don't plan update update the drvier, you need not care it. That's valid point only for "typical users". -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From robin.paulson at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 11:57:06 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 21:57:06 +1200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> i installed the nEo theme a few days back and love it - so much faster, more consistent, it's great i'd like to use the nEo boot screen also, in place of the 'don't panic' splash, but illume segfaults whenever i try to open the 'startup' option in the illume settings manager any suggestions? i've seen the shr-settings module, but it's not listed in there - there's only the 'don't panic' theme thanks From robin.paulson at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:14:56 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:14:56 +1200 Subject: problems with intone Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909010314l590f995fi2934c38bb2cc8e64@mail.gmail.com> i've been using intone on and off since version 0.3 something, but since 0.66 (i think), it's got a nasty bug. whenever i try to add songs to the db, it hangs after importing them, and leaves the 'adding 245 tracks and 13 albums' message pane up. sometimes it stops after getting part way through the process, then crashes when i close the 'adding tracks...' message, and outputs this error message to the console: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x58c)! Xlib: sequence lost (0x1058c > 0x58e) in reply type 0x0! i've tried deleting the intone_songs.db file in ~/.intone, but it still happens i've tried reinstalling intone can't be closed or killall'd, and i have to restart the xserver, at which point the songs i've imported appear in the 'now playing' screen any suggestions? oh, and how do i delete tracks from the 'now playing' screen? after adding tracks and playing them, they stay there, and i can't find the delete button cheers From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 12:18:26 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:18:26 +0200 Subject: Community news tomorrow - news needed! In-Reply-To: <1251797143.3481.4.camel@d-wwow> References: <1251797143.3481.4.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <1251800306.4838.16.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > I have added the Advanced Geocaching Tool there; can someone tell me how > to upload a screenshot? Please add screenshot with resolution the same as FR screec , and not bigger then limit for images on wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Upload -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From martin.jansa at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:18:32 2009 From: martin.jansa at gmail.com (Martin Jansa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:18:32 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090901101832.GC24228@jama> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:57:06PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: > i installed the nEo theme a few days back and love it - so much > faster, more consistent, it's great > > i'd like to use the nEo boot screen also, in place of the 'don't > panic' splash, but illume segfaults whenever i try to open the > 'startup' option in the illume settings manager > > any suggestions? i've seen the shr-settings module, but it's not > listed in there - there's only the 'don't panic' theme > > thanks Yes it's great, I love it too. More than boot screen, I would like to see it integrated better in shr.. 1) bbfiles in shr/import 2) no-overwrite between standard libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme and libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo, the same for etk-theme-shr and eth-theme-neo With every rebuild of standart shr themes, the files are overwritten on neo with upgrade and then I have to manually overwrite them again by installing -neo.opkgs. Or I would get inconsistent look. I don't know if there is config option for E/etk/phonegui-efl to select theme like (ELM_THEME=neo), or how to enable multiple themes for them properly. Warning from -neo packages: This will mess a little with your /usr/share/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl folder, but dont worry its only seeting up some necessary symlinks and backing up your default theme This whole process will be reverted when removing this package IMPORTANT: this package hast to be installed with -force-overwrite or else it wont work!!! 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In-Reply-To: References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251800463.4838.17.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > > I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of > the usage votes. I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the > results significantly. So, you assume almost no one reads CU? In that case maybe we should stop releasing CUs -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 12:22:05 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:22:05 +0200 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251800525.4838.18.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks! > > If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n > forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other > need to spread the word. If you really mean it, will you make those polls last longer? -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:22:10 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:22:10 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, Robin Paulson wrote: > i installed the nEo theme a few days back and love it - so much > faster, more consistent, it's great > > i'd like to use the nEo boot screen also, in place of the 'don't > panic' splash, but illume segfaults whenever i try to open the > 'startup' option in the illume settings manager > > any suggestions? i've seen the shr-settings module, but it's not > listed in there - there's only the 'don't panic' theme > > thanks I'm shr-splash author. Illume has nothing to do with boot splash screen. Don't search for it in illume wrench. AFAIK there is no nEo theme for shr-splash. In SHR are available only simple, dontpanic, handy and niebiee. Qalee is also using shr-splash and they have their own theme. I don't know anything about other themes. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From robin.paulson at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:22:48 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:22:48 +1200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen In-Reply-To: <20090901101832.GC24228@jama> References: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> <20090901101832.GC24228@jama> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909010322i464608b2q49512e24088f8467@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Martin Jansa : > More than boot screen, I would like to see it integrated better in shr.. > 1) bbfiles in shr/import > 2) no-overwrite between standard libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme and > libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo, the same for etk-theme-shr and > eth-theme-neo > > With every rebuild of standart shr themes, the files are overwritten on > neo with upgrade and then I have to manually overwrite them again by > installing -neo.opkgs. Or I would get inconsistent look. yes! +10 for that From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Tue Sep 1 12:24:38 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:24:38 +0200 Subject: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer In-Reply-To: <4A9CF519.1090107@wollishausen.de> References: <4A98DE7E.4030309@wollishausen.de> <20090829101334.33ecd2e2@vanek.robe.cz> <4A9CDDFC.3090002@wollishausen.de> <4A9CEC97.9090501@wollishausen.de> <4A9CF519.1090107@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <4A9CF666.2020507@wollishausen.de> Matthias Huber schrieb: > this code snippets work and the buttons are red and green. > But now it doesn't dial >:o > > > part { > name, "button_exit"; > type, RECT; > mouse_events, 1; > description { > color: 255 0 0 255; > state, "default" 0.0; > rel1 { > relative, 0.66 0.85; > } > rel2 { > relative, 1.00 1; > } > } > } > > > part { > name, "button_call"; > type, RECT; > mouse_events, 1; > description { > state, "default" 0.0; > color, 0 255 0 255; > rel1 { > relative, 0.00 0.85; > } > rel2 { > relative, 0.33 1; > } > } > } > > -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:26:56 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:26:56 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010322i464608b2q49512e24088f8467@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> <20090901101832.GC24228@jama> <2f3aa2770909010322i464608b2q49512e24088f8467@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2009/9/1 Martin Jansa : >> More than boot screen, I would like to see it integrated better in shr.. >> 1) bbfiles in shr/import >> 2) no-overwrite between standard libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme and >> libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo, the same for etk-theme-shr and >> eth-theme-neo >> >> With every rebuild of standart shr themes, the files are overwritten on >> neo with upgrade and then I have to manually overwrite them again by >> installing -neo.opkgs. Or I would get inconsistent look. > > yes! +10 for that Both should be obsoleted. libframeworkd-phonegui-efl is dead, and we don't plan to use etk at all in new stack. In quoted part of mail I agree only on bb files ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From robin.paulson at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:28:29 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:28:29 +1200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909010328u3d5c8b17xbfbcc0b4c6abfa11@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : > I'm shr-splash author. > > Illume has nothing to do with boot splash screen. Don't search for it > in illume wrench. > > AFAIK there is no nEo theme for shr-splash. In SHR are available only > simple, dontpanic, handy and niebiee. Qalee is also using shr-splash > and they have their own theme. I don't know anything about other > themes. right, i must have my terminology wrong then. what's the thing called that displays the nEo boot screen? the thing that has messages about hamsters and formatting my sd card, and recalculating pi? what does the 'startup' option in illume settings, control? what does the 'Splash settings' in shr-settings/appearance, control? if neither of the latter two controls the hamster/sd card/pi thing, how do i control it? other than force-installing and overwriting stuff? From madhatter at teaparty.net Tue Sep 1 12:39:45 2009 From: madhatter at teaparty.net (Tom Yates) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:39:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: > NZ, but it shouldn't matter i agree, but how the local network presents a number does seem to vary widely from network to network - and, indeed, application to application (my incoming numbers on texts are a different format than those on calls). > incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so > i can't help at the moment > call log: yes > messages: yes blast, the two i have working now are the two that you have working. the one that's not working is for real-time incoming calls. don't suppose you fancy calling yourself (not picking up, so hopefully no cost) from another phone and letting me know what happens? sebastian, can you confirm that contact lookup on incoming calls works for you? -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net From timo.lindfors at iki.fi Tue Sep 1 12:39:56 2009 From: timo.lindfors at iki.fi (Timo Juhani Lindfors) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:39:56 +0300 Subject: Nokia N900 (charging battery not possible with free software yet) In-Reply-To: <20090901092701.GC31555@roque.1407.org> (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra's message of "Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:27:01 +0100") References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> <20090901092701.GC31555@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <84iqg3dk3n.fsf_-_@sauna.l.org> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra writes: > No, it's firmware running on their chips. If it was the driver than the > following command would result in ONE instead of ZERO :) You can have drivers in userland too. For example I understood that you can't charge the N900 battery with free software. http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/BME_Protocol describes some reverse-engineering efforts on that one. From david at tuxbrain.com Tue Sep 1 12:40:39 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:40:39 +0200 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> References: <5c6ceea80908281910i19d2c641ic83a2df14bc1a393@mail.gmail.com> <200908291000.06280.mok@mnet-online.de> <20090829092748.GF28624@nysv.org> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Markus T?rnqvist : > On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:54:46AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: >> >>Now >>a) filter all libraries away >>b) maybe filter away files with no proper .desktop file.. > > Yeah, common sense ftw, maybe some libraries may or may not be > relevant to our interests, but we'd figure those out. > > Do you have a guess on what the shares are of libraries and packages > without .desktop? > >>Or something not to have it bloated and impossible to find anything there :) > > +1 Ok this will be my next step on coding, I will try to make is good enough to be upstream on apt-portal, > >>So what's the thing with descriptions? Do they have to be filled in >>manually - no changes of using some importer script there too? >>Screenshots need to be added manually of course. Most of them are only one line description and sure can be used as short description for lists but I thing they are poor for fill an the detailed app description, nevertheless we can use them as initialization of description when app is added to the showroom, one line is better than nothing, both bd and code seems clear an easy enough to implement this in the specific Neo showroom app :) > > If a source provides only only binary, we should be able to take that > binary's description and use it for the application. > > Note that source, binary and application are different concepts here. To check if I understand it well(using shr as example) souce -> ipkg repository binary->ipkg package application->description+image+package/s related+[opt]video+[opt]comments+[opt]opt votes piece of showroom for an specific software application > >>David: I'd like you to share your work with at least Markus. It's nice >>to hear that you're doing progress but as this is supposed to be a >>community effort, it's vital that also some other know about what's >>happening and can go and learn the code we're using etc. > > Preferrably not just me, chacnes are someone with more spare time > would accomplish things faster, but at least I still like to help out :) > > Thanks guys! Setting up a ssh+svn +webdav on the server(yes we have it :) ) to allow this I will grant ssh+svn access to anyone interested in participate, and allow anonymous checkout , after this I wil set up a webserver with two sites one will be the stable/release of the showroom and other using directly the developing version from that svn of course the devel version will be first available :) I'm really noob in all that matters but I hope to have the ssh+svn+webdab setup this night > -- > mjt > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:44:35 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:44:35 +0200 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, Tom Yates wrote: > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: > >> NZ, but it shouldn't matter > > i agree, but how the local network presents a number does seem to vary > widely from network to network - and, indeed, application to application > (my incoming numbers on texts are a different format than those on calls). > >> incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so >> i can't help at the moment >> call log: yes >> messages: yes > > blast, the two i have working now are the two that you have working. the > one that's not working is for real-time incoming calls. don't suppose you > fancy calling yourself (not picking up, so hopefully no cost) from another > phone and letting me know what happens? > > sebastian, can you confirm that contact lookup on incoming calls works for > you? > > > -- > > Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net Everything contact lockup related in SHR and opimd works for me, and I can't see why it couldn't work with correct configuration. In case it doesn't work for you - please send here phone number which is reported by network, phone number in contact book and phone-utils configuration. If not me, then i'm sure DocScrutinizer will know what you're doing wrong ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:47:50 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:47:50 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010328u3d5c8b17xbfbcc0b4c6abfa11@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010328u3d5c8b17xbfbcc0b4c6abfa11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2009/9/1 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : >> I'm shr-splash author. >> >> Illume has nothing to do with boot splash screen. Don't search for it >> in illume wrench. >> >> AFAIK there is no nEo theme for shr-splash. In SHR are available only >> simple, dontpanic, handy and niebiee. Qalee is also using shr-splash >> and they have their own theme. I don't know anything about other >> themes. > > right, i must have my terminology wrong then. what's the thing called > that displays the nEo boot screen? the thing that has messages about > hamsters and formatting my sd card, and recalculating pi? AFAIK exquisite, not used by default. > what does the 'startup' option in illume settings, control? Illume splash, in SHR disabled by default. > what does the 'Splash settings' in shr-settings/appearance, control? shr-splash > if neither of the latter two controls the hamster/sd card/pi thing, > how do i control it? other than force-installing and overwriting > stuff? /etc/exquisite? There is something like that, you can set theme for it in config file. But, again, SHR doesn't use exquisite by default, it's custom. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From vendion at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 12:52:03 2009 From: vendion at gmail.com (Adam Jimerson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:52:03 -0400 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:47 PM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > I've only about finished adding all that I felt was needed. There is some > testing that still needs to be done. > Once I get these basic features working reliably - I'll move on to adding > more features as desired. So the wishlist is open :-) > > I have problems with working with the contacts in this release, I currently don't have the ability to ssh into the phone to more details, but when launching the built in contacts Launcher crashes with a corruption error. I'll have access to a machine that I can SSH into my phone and give an exact error. I did try removing the .launcher directory in my home directory to see if it was just a problem with the database and the config files but that didn't solve it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/0e95a134/attachment.htm From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 12:53:46 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:53:46 +0300 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: <1251800525.4838.18.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> <1251800525.4838.18.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] >> This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks! >> >> If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n >> forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other >> need to spread the word. > If you really mean it, will you make those polls last longer? OK, I won't close it tomorrow. (though I'm still pretty sure nothing dramatic will happen..) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 1 12:57:01 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:57:01 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80908281910i19d2c641ic83a2df14bc1a393@mail.gmail.com> <20090829092748.GF28624@nysv.org> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:40 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > Most of them are only one line description and sure can be used as > short description for lists but I thing they are poor for fill an the > detailed app description, nevertheless we can use them as > initialization of description when app is added to the showroom, one > line is better than nothing, both bd and code seems clear an easy > enough to implement this in the specific Neo showroom app :) Sound's good! > Setting up a ssh+svn +webdav on the server(yes we have it :) ) ?to > allow this I will grant ssh+svn access to anyone interested in > participate, and allow anonymous checkout , after this I wil set up a > webserver with two sites one will be the stable/release of the > showroom ?and other using directly the developing version from that > svn of course the devel version will be first available :) Sound's good! > I'm really noob in all that matters but I hope to have the > ssh+svn+webdab setup this night hmm.. okay.. make sure you have decent backups :D r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 1 13:05:28 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:05:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, vendion wrote: > > I have problems with working with the contacts in this release, I > currently > don't have the ability to ssh into the phone to more details, but when > launching the built in contacts Launcher crashes with a corruption error. > Can you try the attached binary and let me know if it works? There is an error with the sms app - something to do with the latest updates in opimd. But the rest should work. Thanks. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3559779/launcher launcher -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3559779.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From higleylh at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 13:19:04 2009 From: higleylh at gmail.com (Lowell Higley) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:19:04 +0200 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: <1251800463.4838.17.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> <1251800463.4838.17.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] > > > > I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of > > the usage votes. I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the > > results significantly. > So, you assume almost no one reads CU? In that case maybe we should stop > releasing CUs > > Holy moly... where did that come from? By CU I am hoping you mean Community Update. I did not mention nor did I consider the CU in my statement. I don't know how many people read the CU but I would GUESS that the majority of the readers are on this mailing list and have already responded to the poll. Regardless, It would not hurt to include it in the CU if there will be one soon. I apologize if I hit an unseen nerve (and it seems I did.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/1571d420/attachment.htm From vendion at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 13:21:37 2009 From: vendion at gmail.com (Adam Jimerson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:21:37 -0400 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/1/09, Tom Yates wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: > > > >> NZ, but it shouldn't matter > > > > i agree, but how the local network presents a number does seem to vary > > widely from network to network - and, indeed, application to application > > (my incoming numbers on texts are a different format than those on > calls). > > > >> incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so > >> i can't help at the moment > >> call log: yes > >> messages: yes > > > > blast, the two i have working now are the two that you have working. the > > one that's not working is for real-time incoming calls. don't suppose > you > > fancy calling yourself (not picking up, so hopefully no cost) from > another > > phone and letting me know what happens? > > > > sebastian, can you confirm that contact lookup on incoming calls works > for > > you? > > > > > > -- > > > > Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net > > Everything contact lockup related in SHR and opimd works for me, and I > can't see why it couldn't work with correct configuration. In case it > doesn't work for you - please send here phone number which is reported > by network, phone number in contact book and phone-utils > configuration. If not me, then i'm sure DocScrutinizer will know what > you're doing wrong ;) > > So let me see if I understand this the only thing that needs changed is the country code right, everything else remains a 0? As I live in the USA all I know is that a +1 is used, everything else is unknown to me and I am having to Google for. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/cba0ab11/attachment.htm From haxxx at gmx.li Tue Sep 1 13:30:15 2009 From: haxxx at gmx.li (Kahless) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:30:15 +0200 Subject: german "fixing the #1024" bug party Message-ID: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> hi all, I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) ) Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small bug fix party? Sascha From mjt at nysv.org Tue Sep 1 15:14:37 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:14:37 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> References: <200908291000.06280.mok@mnet-online.de> <20090829092748.GF28624@nysv.org> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090901131437.GW28624@nysv.org> I CC'd our friend Joao on this :) On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:40:39PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >>>So what's the thing with descriptions? Do they have to be filled in >>>manually - no changes of using some importer script there too? >>>Screenshots need to be added manually of course. >Most of them are only one line description and sure can be used as >short description for lists but I thing they are poor for fill an the >detailed app description, nevertheless we can use them as >initialization of description when app is added to the showroom, one >line is better than nothing, both bd and code seems clear an easy >enough to implement this in the specific Neo showroom app :) Yeah :) >> If a source provides only only binary, we should be able to take that >> binary's description and use it for the application. >> Note that source, binary and application are different concepts here. >To check if I understand it well(using shr as example) >souce -> ipkg repository >binary->ipkg package source is the source package, repository is repository. There's a separate table "application" which contains the description, which is not the same as a package's description, but if we have only one binary per application, we can use the binary package's description. That's where source comes in, tho it's not really in the db, which would be to find out how many binaries the source produces... >application->description+image+package/s We need a table for images! I'm pretty sure we went over this somewhere bit looking at sqlite3 getdeb.db and .schema I can't find a relation between package and application! There's application.source_package VARCHAR(128) and package.source VARCHAR(64) but surely that's not used for joining ;) >related+[opt]video+[opt]comments+[opt]opt votes piece of showroom for >an specific software application Ooh video, I like that :) But this is tangenting on the roadmap, in which order are we going to do features. I sort of like the idea of doing images first, because it's a showroom after all. >> Thanks guys! >Setting up a ssh+svn +webdav on the server(yes we have it :) ) to >allow this I will grant ssh+svn access to anyone interested in >participate, and allow anonymous checkout , after this I wil set up a >webserver with two sites one will be the stable/release of the >showroom and other using directly the developing version from that >svn of course the devel version will be first available :) > >I'm really noob in all that matters but I hope to have the >ssh+svn+webdab setup this night If that proves difficult, maybe git is an alternative? I've been using git for so long I can't even remember svn, I'd probably use git-svn for development too :D Thanks!! :) -- mjt From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 16:31:36 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:31:36 +0200 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:47 AM, c_c wrote: > ?Well, changing colours requires a local app theme and I'm not particularly > savvy with the .edc concepts and themes. You can change the whole them using different .edj file. Thats true. You can also define color classes, and you can swap them out via embryo scripting. you can pass events to embryo and receive too. So communication between the gui code and the application is possible. > Will take this on in a little while > - after the basic features have been added. In the interim I remember having > this issue with intone and the initial paroli releases. Dont know what issue are you talking about;) Maybe I didnt try out that old paroli? Best regards, Laszlo From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 1 16:38:08 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:38:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: problems with intone In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909010314l590f995fi2934c38bb2cc8e64@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010314l590f995fi2934c38bb2cc8e64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251815888509-3560927.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Ok. Thanks. That helped catch a bug. Can you try the attached binary and see if it works? Just scp it to /usr/bin. Do post back. Thanks Again. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3560927/intone intone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/problems-with-intone-tp3559585p3560927.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 1 17:00:59 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:00:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251817259447-3561080.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > You can change the whole them using different .edj file. Thats true. > > You can also define color classes, and you can swap them out via > embryo scripting. you can pass events to embryo and receive too. > So communication between the gui code and the application is possible. > Could you point me towards some examples on how to do this? Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Dont know what issue are you talking about;) Maybe I didnt try out > that old paroli? > Ha :-) Well - take a look at this [1] for what I was referring to. [1]http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0-55-Elementary-mplayer-frontend-updated-09-Jul-tp2587826p2632259.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3561080.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From yorickmoko at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 17:07:01 2009 From: yorickmoko at gmail.com (Yorick Moko) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 17:07:01 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <200909011107.50980.david@garabana.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <200909011107.50980.david@garabana.com> Message-ID: <26fea52c0909010807y2c9b1bd4iab741ae7594ae1d8@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, David Garabana Barro wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2009 23:39:46 Dan Staley wrote: > > > I'm extremely excited about going out and using this app to help me find > > some! Thanks! > > Same here! > Thank you very much for this killer app! > +10 :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/7132cfdb/attachment.htm From frazier.cameron at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 17:34:13 2009 From: frazier.cameron at gmail.com (Cameron Frazier) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:34:13 -0400 Subject: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions In-Reply-To: <4A9CD0E2.2000907@gmx.de> References: <4A9CBB37.4050908@wollishausen.de> <4A9CD0E2.2000907@gmx.de> Message-ID: > I use > medionmobile/alditalk which is the same price per MB. > And they also offer a 24h-flat(throttled to 56kbit/s after 1GB) for 2EUR and a > 30-days-flat(throttled after 5GB) for 15EUR. > Especially the 24h-flat is perfect for a day trip and cheaper than a cup of > coffee :D > This is quite interesting, how does getting one work? Do most shops carry them? And can it be combined with voice/SMS operation? Please bear with me, I looked over the site, but as I don't know any German the details are elusive (And putting faith in google translate for monetary related items is not something I enjoy). I know that when I was in Italy, I could get a SIM with cash and a passport, is it similar in DE or do I need a local credit card? Kind regards, Cameron From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 18:40:02 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:40:02 +0200 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1251817259447-3561080.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251817259447-3561080.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM, c_c wrote: > ?Could you point me towards some examples on how to do this? "A lesson in colours..." http://edjy.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/a-lesso-in-colours/ > ?Ha :-) Well - take a look at this [1] for what I was referring to. > > [1]http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0-55-Elementary-mplayer-frontend-updated-09-Jul-tp2587826p2632259.html Aham. Dunno how to change the theme of elementary. If you know tell me. However elementary maybe honors from some SHELL VARIABLES, and if we cant choose the theme from program, we should change it via shell variables. Dunno details I got the tip on #edevelop. Laszlo From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 18:46:34 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:46:34 +0200 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251817259447-3561080.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM, c_c wrote: >> Could you point me towards some examples on how to do this? > > "A lesson in colours..." > http://edjy.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/a-lesso-in-colours/ > >> Ha :-) Well - take a look at this [1] for what I was referring to. >> >> [1]http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0-55-Elementary-mplayer-frontend-updated-09-Jul-tp2587826p2632259.html > > > Aham. Dunno how to change the theme of elementary. If you know tell me. > > However elementary maybe honors from some SHELL VARIABLES, and > if we cant choose the theme from program, we should change it > via shell variables. > Dunno details I got the tip on #edevelop. > > Laszlo Look for elm_theme_overlay_add and elm_theme_extension_add. Adding overlay should work just like changing theme. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From madhatter at teaparty.net Tue Sep 1 19:06:09 2009 From: madhatter at teaparty.net (Tom Yates) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:06:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet Message-ID: we're trying to schedule another one, probably at the granta at about 8pm, like the last one was. vote for preferred dates at http://www.doodle.com/f88b5xmcbudhnmdg . -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 19:09:07 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 19:09:07 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) Message-ID: Hi! I would like to ask, how to add an albumart to intone? Album art: I tried to name just like the .mp3 file (except it has .jpg extension), but it does not get displayed: root at om-gta02 ~/Music $ ls -l /home/root/Music/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 103663 Sep 1 18:57 24 Lady GaGa - Poker Face.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6533514 Sep 1 18:57 24 Lady GaGa - Poker Face.mp3 root at om-gta02 ~/Music Lyrics: What is the fileformat of lyrics? The same like for movies? .srt or .sub? (or even .mpsub?) Is there a website to download tagged lyrics? (ie, its not me how adjust the lyrics to the music) Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 19:11:20 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 19:11:20 +0200 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251817259447-3561080.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > Look for elm_theme_overlay_add and elm_theme_extension_add. Adding > overlay should work just like changing theme. Is it not slower than replacing the default theme? (ie. it displays the default theme elements, and this theme the top of it). Just guessing here .... Laszlo From frazier.cameron at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 19:15:07 2009 From: frazier.cameron at gmail.com (Cameron Frazier) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:15:07 -0400 Subject: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: umm... Cambridge UK? Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA? Cambridge, Ontario, CA? Other? Not trying to be annoying, it's that if you're meeting in Cambridge, ON, CA, I'd 1) be there, and 2) be impressed! I assume you mean Cambridge, Mass., USA Kind regards, Toaster From madhatter at teaparty.net Tue Sep 1 19:17:20 2009 From: madhatter at teaparty.net (Tom Yates) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:17:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > Everything contact lockup related in SHR and opimd works for me, and I > can't see why it couldn't work with correct configuration. In case it > doesn't work for you - please send here phone number which is reported > by network, phone number in contact book and phone-utils > configuration. If not me, then i'm sure DocScrutinizer will know what > you're doing wrong ;) what can i say? i'm an idiot, or must have screwed up one of the tests. now i have my contacts listed as 0044abcdefghij , they work for all three applications: incoming calls, incoming SMS, and call log. thank you all for your help and persistence! -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 19:20:03 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 19:20:03 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > Lyrics: > What is the fileformat of lyrics? > The same like for movies? .srt or .sub? (or even .mpsub?) > > Is there a website to download tagged lyrics? > (ie, its not me how adjust the lyrics to the music) Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is. No advanced feature, like karaoke....;) Could you please wrap lines of textbox? In python is something like this: textbox = elementary.Entry(self.window) textbox.line_wrap_set(True) Best regards, Laszlo From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 1 19:27:57 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:27:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251817259447-3561080.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251826077595-3561976.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Well, this is what I'd done then Added these line in the program:- const char *theme = "intone"; elm_theme_overlay_add(theme); Cut out the entry group from the original elementary theme default.edj. Saved it as intone.edj in /home/root/.elementary/themes/intone.edj. That was enough to override the default theme. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3561976.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 19:39:24 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:39:24 +0200 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> <1251800463.4838.17.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <1251826764.5593.203.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > > Holy moly... where did that come from? By CU I am hoping you mean > Community Update. I did not mention nor did I consider the CU in my > statement. I don't know how many people read the CU but I would GUESS > that the majority of the readers are on this mailing list and have > already responded to the poll. Regardless, It would not hurt to > include it in the CU if there will be one soon. I apologize if I hit > an unseen nerve (and it seems I did.) Seems wrong. Getting me nervous need much more effort and finesse. What does, is that those 275 respondents you mentioned above are probably only those who are subscribed to one/some of mailing lists. And you are trying to ignore those who are looking information about their devices other ways, like OM wiki. We do not know how many they are such people, but I assume following: minimum - NULL, that means you are right maximum would be approximately the same as number of smart phones sold by OM Inc. This number might be greater than 300. I do not want to margin them, as we do not know how many they are. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From rtm at cfa.harvard.edu Tue Sep 1 19:41:01 2009 From: rtm at cfa.harvard.edu (Ken Young) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet Message-ID: Cameron Frazier wrote: > umm... Cambridge UK? Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA? Cambridge, > Ontario, CA? Other? > Not trying to be annoying, it's that if you're meeting in Cambridge, > ON, CA, I'd 1) be there, and 2) be impressed! > I assume you mean Cambridge, Mass., USA I'm afraid he means *real* Cambridge - as in England. But if he means Cambridge Mass, I'll be a happy guy. Ken Young (in Cambridge, Mass) From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 19:45:28 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:45:28 +0200 Subject: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use? In-Reply-To: References: <1251790569.4838.8.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <99cd09480909010043j7d2dd440t47126531442eac40@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010140i18845806t90d8c996aea0a904@mail.gmail.com> <99cd09480909010147g49514e15k1bf81c87ca51404a@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010151y3674335dud658873b5f60a75d@mail.gmail.com> <1251800525.4838.18.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <1251827128.5593.209.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > OK, I won't close it tomorrow. Thank you. Maybe it is worth to mention that it is still open on CU? > (though I'm still pretty sure nothing dramatic will happen..) I am not counting on this. My hidden target ;) is to use this poll to get to know how many people reads CU and aren't subscribed to ML, if they start to vote. Regardless of voting results i will get some statistical info, which is my point. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From damianspriggs at mac.com Tue Sep 1 19:48:04 2009 From: damianspriggs at mac.com (Damian Spriggs) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:48:04 -0400 Subject: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89EA860E-2FB3-45D0-9D69-CFBA4608451D@mac.com> Could always organize one of our own. Miracle of Science [1] on Mass Ave would be a nerdy appropriate venue [1] http://www.miracleofscience.us/ On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Ken Young wrote: > I'm afraid he means *real* Cambridge - as in England. > But if he means Cambridge Mass, I'll be a happy guy. > > Ken Young (in Cambridge, Mass) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just use a list of channels (seperated by ',') you want to subscribe to in place of 'all'. You can change the settings under configure. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3562123/launcher launcher Leonti wrote: > > - If I go to Contacts->Select some contact->Send SMS. > Hope this is better. BTW, the icon changes to a message with a clock, followed by a message with a green arrow to indicate that the message has been sent. Thanks for the feedback. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3562123.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Tue Sep 1 20:01:24 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:01:24 +0200 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690907200438xbeb4ea1nd0cf2764d9028d58@mail.gmail.com> <4A645A20.4020802@gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Dnia 2009-09-01, wto o godzinie 13:54 +0530, Vikas Saurabh pisze: > Hi guys, > > First off, I am terribly sorry for the delay. I was too busy with work > of late. Anyways, I guess we need to plan on the dates and mode of > transport of phones to NCR. > > Till now, I know of only following people (through this mail chain): You might get some luck by announcing it on CU. Depends on how soon do you plan to organize fix party. Is it better to announce tomorrow, or on next CU? [cut] -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From madhatter at teaparty.net Tue Sep 1 20:22:09 2009 From: madhatter at teaparty.net (Tom Yates) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 19:22:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Ken Young wrote: > I'm afraid he means *real* Cambridge - as in England. sadly, yes. sorry not to have been clearer. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net From fey.peter at googlemail.com Tue Sep 1 20:26:02 2009 From: fey.peter at googlemail.com (Peter Fey) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:26:02 +0200 Subject: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251829562.4048.14.camel@peter-laptop> Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 16:58 -0400 schrieb Cameron Frazier: > as such need a prepaid SIM. > > I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM. > > Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to > ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this. Hi, I'm in Germany and use "Medionmobile" which is sold at all "Aldi"-Stores in Germany. Unfortunately their FAQ states you need a permanent residence address in Germany and they will check whether a person with the name and address you provide them exists before letting you make calls. Same appears to be valid for "Fonic" and I assume the others won't be different So, no suggestion, just a warning. Peter From frazier.cameron at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 21:07:32 2009 From: frazier.cameron at gmail.com (Cameron Frazier) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 15:07:32 -0400 Subject: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Tom Yates wrote: > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Ken Young wrote: > >> I'm afraid he means *real* Cambridge - as in England. > > sadly, yes. ?sorry not to have been clearer. > > > -- > > ? ? ? Tom Yates ?- ?http://www.teaparty.net > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Sadly even if it was Cambridge, US, I'd still be out. Well have fun! Kind regards, Toaster From fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de Tue Sep 1 21:20:03 2009 From: fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de (D. Fett) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 14:20:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi! I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on these two issues? Thanks, Daniel Marcel-2 wrote: > > Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 07:18 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: >> - speed up map display > > It may be just me, but it feels slower than the last version... > Especially reaching the map view the first time after starting the app > takes very long. > >> - colors on non-standard themes should look right now :-) > > Works in principle. :) You still seem to set the text color once on the > map view tab, after having had that visible all the text gets black on > black again... > > Thanks for the update, it's getting better and better! > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3562533.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 21:31:59 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 21:31:59 +0200 Subject: intone and symlinks Message-ID: Hi! Just wanted to let you know c_c, that intone does not follow symlinks. On my root partition (in NAND), the /home/root/Music dir is rather limited, so I created a symlink which points to /media/card/more directory where I have more musics. Could intone be fixed to follow this symlink? Also via Set songs dir button, the symlink appears as grayed out file. Best regards, Laszlo From Quakeman1 at gmx.net Tue Sep 1 22:33:53 2009 From: Quakeman1 at gmx.net (Fox Mulder) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:33:53 +0200 Subject: german "fixing the #1024" bug party In-Reply-To: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> References: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> Message-ID: <4A9D8531.1060707@gmx.net> Kahless wrote: > hi all, > > I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it > somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) ) > > Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small > bug fix party? I would be willing to do the buzz-fix solution with adding a 10?F cap to the existing which i already did to my own freerunner. But i live near Frankfurt a.M. which is not very near to NRW. Ciao, Rainer From zimmermann at vdm-design.de Tue Sep 1 22:46:37 2009 From: zimmermann at vdm-design.de (Thomas Zimmermann) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:46:37 +0200 Subject: german "fixing the #1024" bug party In-Reply-To: <4A9D8531.1060707@gmx.net> References: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> <4A9D8531.1060707@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200909012246.37553.zimmermann@vdm-design.de> Am Dienstag 01 September 2009 22:33:53 schrieb Fox Mulder: > Kahless wrote: > > hi all, > > > > I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it > > somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) ) > > > > Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small > > bug fix party? > > I would be willing to do the buzz-fix solution with adding a 10?F cap to > the existing which i already did to my own freerunner. But i live near > Frankfurt a.M. which is not very near to NRW. > > Ciao, > Rainer I would join the bug fix party, i'm living near Koblenz, so for me it's no difference between Frankfurt and NRW. Thomas From undrwater at verizon.net Tue Sep 1 22:58:46 2009 From: undrwater at verizon.net (undrwater) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 15:58:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: QtMoko images V8 In-Reply-To: <2bb72a1.82d1b6f.4a97a9b7.5f084@o2.pl> References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> <1251439775617-3532785.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251443220.6424.1.camel@rp-skunk> <2bb72a1.82d1b6f.4a97a9b7.5f084@o2.pl> Message-ID: <1251838726322-3563015.post@n2.nabble.com> Bart?omiej Zimo? wrote: > > Dnia 28 sierpnia 2009 9:07 Radek Polak napisa?(a): > > Underwater: please paste here your /etc/init.d/qte file > > Radek: maybe we can (reset) disable and enable bluetooth after suspend? > > This could be a problem. I don't have the /etc/init.d/qte file. :( I do have qpe, but I'm sure that's not what you're asking for. Russell Dwiggins (Undrwater) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-images-V8-tp3530825p3563015.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From openmoko at rcie.de Tue Sep 1 23:03:05 2009 From: openmoko at rcie.de (Marc Bantle) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:03:05 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] libfsotransport0 removed again (was: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again) Message-ID: <4A9D8C09.1010905@rcie.de> Hi, c_c schrieb: > Hi, > In my case fso-abyss wasn't returning a channel. On running it in the > terminal I got an error that libfsotransport was not installed. A opkg > install libfsotransport0 fixed it for me. > I thought this might help someone else. > > It did, thanks! But when upgrading (opkg upgrade) this evening, the same thing happened again: libfsotransport0 got purged. I don't really understand why, because there are installed packages depending on it: $ opkg whatdepends libfsotransport0 Root set: libfsotransport0 What depends on root set fso-abyss 0.3.5+gitr73+a4f65077c3faff89af2b965e9e3fa9bcfea52f83-r0 depends on libfsotransport0 (>= 0.9.3+gitr408+7e1c1a3e2eebbcaefdb35f5b56342e7c727a576e) frameworkd-config-shr 0.9.5.9+gitr1653+02ede11c3d92959bf5511cd20a4aeaa3e75641ba-186+fd61a50e505ad3953e5523ba01fdc6483b1f891b-r7 depends on fso-abyss libfsotransport-dev 0.9.3+gitr410+5c9ab6d4d924812b30f3fc7bde8089584df45752-r6.1 depends on libfsotransport0 (= 0.9.3+gitr410+5c9ab6d4d924812b30f3fc7bde8089584df45752-r6.1) libgsm0710mux0 0.3.5+gitr42+df01e9e81775c1d7b515b9caff7c420fae59f140-r1 depends on libfsotransport0 (>= 0.9.3+gitr408+7e1c1a3e2eebbcaefdb35f5b56342e7c727a576e) fso-abyss-dev 0.3.5+gitr73+a4f65077c3faff89af2b965e9e3fa9bcfea52f83-r0 depends on libfsotransport-dev frameworkd-config-shr-dev 0.9.5.9+gitr1653+02ede11c3d92959bf5511cd20a4aeaa3e75641ba-186+fd61a50e505ad3953e5523ba01fdc6483b1f891b-r7 depends on fso-abyss-dev and $ opkg list_installed | egrep '(fso-abyss|frameworkd-config-shr|libgsm0710mux0)' frameworkd-config-shr - 0.9.5.9+gitr1653+02ede11c3d92959bf5511cd20a4aeaa3e75641ba-186+fd61a50e505ad3953e5523ba01fdc6483b1f891b-r7 - frameworkd-config-shr-dev - 0.9.5.9+gitr1653+02ede11c3d92959bf5511cd20a4aeaa3e75641ba-186+fd61a50e505ad3953e5523ba01fdc6483b1f891b-r7 - fso-abyss - 0.3.5+gitr73+a4f65077c3faff89af2b965e9e3fa9bcfea52f83-r0 - fso-abyss-dev - 0.3.5+gitr73+a4f65077c3faff89af2b965e9e3fa9bcfea52f83-r0 - libgsm0710mux0 - 0.3.5+gitr42+df01e9e81775c1d7b515b9caff7c420fae59f140-r1 - Any ideas? Marc From uzi18 at o2.pl Tue Sep 1 23:21:20 2009 From: uzi18 at o2.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Bart.?=) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:21:20 +0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_QtMoko_images_V8?= In-Reply-To: <1251838726322-3563015.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> <1251443220.6424.1.camel@rp-skunk> <2bb72a1.82d1b6f.4a97a9b7.5f084@o2.pl> <1251838726322-3563015.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <68e19611.4f1bb583.4a9d9050.7c31a@o2.pl> Dnia 1 wrze?nia 2009 22:58 undrwater napisa?(a): > > > > Bart?omiej Zimo? wrote: > > > > Dnia 28 sierpnia 2009 9:07 Radek Polak napisa?(a): > > > > Underwater: please paste here your /etc/init.d/qte file > > > > Radek: maybe we can (reset) disable and enable bluetooth after suspend? > > > > > > This could be a problem. I don't have the /etc/init.d/qte file. :( I do > have qpe, but I'm sure that's not what you're asking for. > Thats right ! sorry it's /etc/init.d/qpe ;) Bartek From vikas.saurabh at gmail.com Tue Sep 1 23:46:49 2009 From: vikas.saurabh at gmail.com (Vikas Saurabh) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 03:16:49 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> > You might get some luck by announcing it on CU. Depends on how soon do > you plan to organize fix party. Is it better to announce tomorrow, or on > next CU? > [cut] I have updated http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02#Community. Hope thats fine! --Vikas From ahmad221284 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 1 23:20:50 2009 From: ahmad221284 at yahoo.com (Ahmad Abdel-Yaman) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 14:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <1251791938.17240.0.camel@rp-glum> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251695711.3948.31.camel@rp-glum> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> <946952.87302.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251791938.17240.0.camel@rp-glum> Message-ID: <512800.20665.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Great, everything is working perfectly, thanks a lot for the help :-) I have one last question though: what is the recommended action to do when not using the FR? Should I suspend it (I assume that's what happens when I click the power button once) or simply let the screen turn off? Obviously suspending would be the better option battery-life-wise, but does this affect any of the phone's functionality? Thanks again for the help. Ahmad ________________________________ From: Radek Polak To: List for Openmoko community discussion Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:58:58 AM Subject: Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote: > So if I reboot my FR and make one outgoing call to any number, the > incoming calls after that should be ok until my next reboot? > > Ahmad > > Yes Regards Radek _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community at lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090901/d396191f/attachment.htm From list-openmoko at omoco.de Tue Sep 1 23:58:42 2009 From: list-openmoko at omoco.de (Sebastian Hammerl) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:58:42 +0200 Subject: CellHunter is moving to a new server Message-ID: <4A9D9912.2080301@omoco.de> Hi, CellHunter is getting a new faster server! So CellHunter is moving. At the moment I am migrating the database to the new system and will check if everything is ok with the data. The bad part of the move is that I have to release a new version because the submit adress is hardcoded to the old ip :( But the new version will contain a dns name and some bugfixes. So please be patient and save your logs while I am moving to the new server and then update CellHunter to the new version. I will send an email again when everything is over. You can also check http://cellhunter.omoco.de I will update this subdomain as soon all is ready. All is getting faster and better - I promise :) Greetings, Sebastian ps: the database now contains over 7 million entries and is about 1,5GB big. From sound.of.freedom at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 00:43:21 2009 From: sound.of.freedom at gmail.com (FreedomSound) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 00:43:21 +0200 Subject: QtMoko images V8 In-Reply-To: <1251838726322-3563015.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> <1251439775617-3532785.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251443220.6424.1.camel@rp-skunk> <2bb72a1.82d1b6f.4a97a9b7.5f084@o2.pl> <1251838726322-3563015.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <13801C54-A489-4B01-8D83-BB8890E58851@gmail.com> I found an issue with sim code request. I generaly use my phone without a simcode. But today, I installed Qtmokov8 and it didn't give me the hand. At first, The touch screen didn't work on HomeScreen. I pressed the AUX button, tried anything and came back at the HomeScreen. Here the phone asked me for the SimCode but I had'nt one. I was blocked... So, I toke my old phone to set a code in the simcard and put it back in my FR. Restart it again. FR asked me instantly for my PIN code. I did it and I could use the FR after validate. Sorry for my poor english. I wish that you undertsand me. Envoy? de mon iPhone Le 1 sept. 09 ? 22:58, undrwater a ?crit : > > > > Bart?omiej Zimo? wrote: >> >> Dnia 28 sierpnia 2009 9:07 Radek Polak napisa? >> (a): >> >> Underwater: please paste here your /etc/init.d/qte file >> >> Radek: maybe we can (reset) disable and enable bluetooth after >> suspend? >> >> > > This could be a problem. I don't have the /etc/init.d/qte file. : > ( I do > have qpe, but I'm sure that's not what you're asking for. > > Russell Dwiggins (Undrwater) > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-images-V8-tp3530825p3563015.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From rms at 1407.org Wed Sep 2 01:47:43 2009 From: rms at 1407.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 00:47:43 +0100 Subject: CellHunter is moving to a new server In-Reply-To: <4A9D9912.2080301@omoco.de> References: <4A9D9912.2080301@omoco.de> Message-ID: <20090901234743.GB4110@roque.1407.org> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:58:42PM +0200, Sebastian Hammerl wrote: > CellHunter is getting a new faster server! > > So CellHunter is moving. At the moment I am migrating the database to > the new system and will check if everything is ok with the data. The bad > part of the move is that I have to release a new version because the > submit adress is hardcoded to the old ip :( But the new version will > contain a dns name and some bugfixes. > > So please be patient and save your logs while I am moving to the new > server and then update CellHunter to the new version. I will send an > email again when everything is over. You can also check > http://cellhunter.omoco.de I will update this subdomain as soon all is > ready. > > All is getting faster and better - I promise :) > > Greetings, Sebastian > > ps: the database now contains over 7 million entries and is about 1,5GB big. How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? Rui From rms at 1407.org Wed Sep 2 01:52:31 2009 From: rms at 1407.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 00:52:31 +0100 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090901235230.GC4110@roque.1407.org> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 06:17:20PM +0100, Tom Yates wrote: > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > > Everything contact lockup related in SHR and opimd works for me, and I > > can't see why it couldn't work with correct configuration. In case it > > doesn't work for you - please send here phone number which is reported > > by network, phone number in contact book and phone-utils > > configuration. If not me, then i'm sure DocScrutinizer will know what > > you're doing wrong ;) > > what can i say? i'm an idiot, or must have screwed up one of the tests. > now i have my contacts listed as 0044abcdefghij , they work for all three > applications: incoming calls, incoming SMS, and call log. > > thank you all for your help and persistence! + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of + is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally ignore it. It would be good to store the number in a normalized format (like 00) but present it in a consistent format to the most common usage. In PCRE (after trimming any whitespace)... ^(?:\+?|00)\d+$ Rui From david at tuxbrain.com Wed Sep 2 04:09:30 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 04:09:30 +0200 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: References: <5c6ceea80908281910i19d2c641ic83a2df14bc1a393@mail.gmail.com> <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909011909r2cc5f814tcdf6a91e7012d3e@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Risto H. Kurppa : > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:40 PM, David Reyes Samblas > Martinez wrote: >> Most of them are only one line description and sure can be used as >> short description for lists but I thing they are poor for fill an the >> detailed app description, nevertheless we can use them as >> initialization of description when app is added to the showroom, one >> line is better than nothing, both bd and code seems clear an easy >> enough to implement this in the specific Neo showroom app :) > > Sound's good! > >> Setting up a ssh+svn +webdav on the server(yes we have it :) ) ?to >> allow this I will grant ssh+svn access to anyone interested in >> participate, and allow anonymous checkout , after this I wil set up a >> webserver with two sites one will be the stable/release of the >> showroom ?and other using directly the developing version from that >> svn of course the devel version will be first available :) > > Sound's good! > >> I'm really noob in all that matters but I hope to have the >> ssh+svn+webdab setup this night > > hmm.. okay.. make sure you have decent backups :D > > > r > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > There is some(a lot of) work to be done yet, ex. cleaning all unnecessary imported files to the repo mostly all bzr stuff from original apt-portal repo , configure Apache to work with cherrypy, and set up with a "stable" and "devel" om-showrom site ;), and of course make at least a devel om-showrom site :P but here is one step more of this long road. https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/ also access to svn though ssh or https are setup and working but I have to figure out how to enable the Reading operations (checkout,... etc) without need to login just lack of time to read and code, this is one of my next steps, at least people can access to code with webfrontend, those who wants access please let me know (Markus? :P) the only difference from the original apt-portal checkout is opkg2sql.py[1] script and sqlite db file[2] generated from the succesfull import [1]https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=om-showroom&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdebfactory%2Fbin%2Fopkg2sql.py [2]https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=om-showroom&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fshrunstable.db -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 05:11:59 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:11:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > I would like to ask, how to add an albumart to intone? > In this case - change the name of the file Lady GaGa - Poker Face.jpg to cover.jpg. That should display your cover art. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > What is the fileformat of lyrics? > It's a text file as you have discovered. :-) BTW you could use intone as a flashcard app with music / speech accompaniment this way!! Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Is there a website to download tagged lyrics? > I use [1] for getting the lyrics and album art. In fact I had planned on using their API to automate getting lyrics and album art - but apparently because of licensing issues the API has been stopped. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is. > No advanced feature, like karaoke....;) > Do you have any ideas on how to implement karaoke without using up too much CPU? I thought that the basic DSP stuff (being floating point) would kill the Neo. I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Could you please wrap lines of textbox? > Sure! Next release this weekend. [1]http://lyrics.wikia.com/lyrics/Main_Page -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3564473.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 05:17:10 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:17:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Just wanted to let you know c_c, that intone does not follow symlinks. > There was an issue with some filesystems some time ago. To debug that, I had disabled following symlinks and I found no solution to that problem. Let me recheck. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Could intone be fixed to follow this symlink? > You can add the original directory directly to Intone for now. I'll try and fix this. Might take some time though - I'm a bit busy adding features to launcher. Have you tried the new release? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/intone-and-symlinks-tp3562612p3564487.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 05:41:36 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:41:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251862896842-3564569.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Guys, my name is Chaitanya and I'm in a small town in Kerala called Payyannur. I have a FR-A6 (I think). I want to get #1024 / buzz fix done for sure. The bass fix is not that much a deal breaker - though I would rather get everything done in one go since the phone is going to be opened up anyway. I will find it tough to get my FR sent to Delhi - cause Blue Dart doesn't deliver at my place. I am planning to visit Delhi around Diwali - so I can get the phone over by hand for sure. Hopefully, the arrangements can be worked out by then. Thanks to Rakshat and Vikas for taking the initiative to set this up. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Fwd-buzzfix-in-India-tp3444480p3564569.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From mjt at nysv.org Wed Sep 2 06:24:42 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:24:42 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909011909r2cc5f814tcdf6a91e7012d3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909011909r2cc5f814tcdf6a91e7012d3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090902042442.GD28624@nysv.org> On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 04:09:30AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: [...] >course make at least a devel om-showrom site :P but here is one step >more of this long road. >https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/ Hooray! >also access to svn though ssh or https are setup and working but I >have to figure out how to enable the Reading operations (checkout,... >etc) without need to login just lack of time to read and code, this is >one of my next steps, at least people can access to code with >webfrontend, those who wants access please let me know (Markus? :P) Count me in! Shall I give you an ssh public key or how do we do this? >the only difference from the original apt-portal checkout is >opkg2sql.py[1] script and sqlite db file[2] generated from the >succesfull import Hmm the db might be a bit volatile to be in the VCS, considering it is regenerated easily, but ok :) -- mjt From rozzin at geekspace.com Wed Sep 2 06:27:51 2009 From: rozzin at geekspace.com (Joshua Judson Rosen) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:27:51 -0400 Subject: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet References: Message-ID: <87tyzmvum0.fsf@slice.rozzin.com> Tom Yates writes: > > we're trying to schedule another one, probably at the granta at about 8pm, > like the last one was. > > vote for preferred dates at http://www.doodle.com/f88b5xmcbudhnmdg . It might be good to mention which Cambridge it is :) I gather, after finding and reading through your personal website, that you're talking about the Cambridge in England; not the one in Massachusetts, USA? -- Don't be afraid to ask (Lf.((Lx.xx) (Lr.f(rr)))). From mjt at nysv.org Wed Sep 2 06:28:41 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:28:41 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: References: <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> <20090901131437.GW28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <20090902042841.GE28624@nysv.org> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:00:01PM +0100, Joao Pinto wrote: >> I'm pretty sure we went over this somewhere bit looking at sqlite3 getdeb.db >> and .schema I can't find a relation between package and application! >> There's application.source_package VARCHAR(128) and package.source VARCHAR(64) >> but surely that's not used for joining ;) > >This relation is done by the source_package field, applications are >related to a single source package, the source package must provide a >binary package classified with "m" main to be shown on the updates >list. So yes it is used for joining despite the lack of enforcement of >referential integrity. Is this as heavy as it sounds to me?-) Either doing JOIN over VARCHAR or in code iterating results in a for loop and doing SELECT over them; both options are heavy. I know the showroom/apt-portal at large isn't necessarily useful for sources, but would it make sense to model source packages, just to get a "normal" foreign key? Thanks! -- mjt From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 06:37:03 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 23:37:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher 0.30 release In-Reply-To: <200908211352.31428.vendion@charter.net> References: <1250786989763-3480288.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820171915.GC5203@roque.1407.org> <1250818131831-3483405.post@n2.nabble.com> <1250818232191-3483421.post@n2.nabble.com> <200908211352.31428.vendion@charter.net> Message-ID: <1251866223286-3564732.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, vendion wrote: > > Location data doesn't work for me. > Launcher currently subscribes to all cell broadcast channels. Some transmit info only on registration. Maybe a reboot will help. vendion wrote: > > I change %H:%M to %I:%M %p but when I close it reverts back to 24 hour > format. > Did you press the set time button? Can you try the new release and let me know? vendion wrote: > > On a side note sketchbook creates a duplicate entry when assigned to a > category. > I'll take a look at that. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-0-30-release-tp3480288p3564732.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 06:41:35 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 23:41:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly In-Reply-To: <4A9CED70.80001@hist.no> References: <1251778892.4142.22.camel@rp-glum> <4A9CED70.80001@hist.no> Message-ID: <1251866495147-3564747.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Same here - just a static ip for the fr's mac address on ubuntu works great for me. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/udev-rule-for-the-freerunner-or-make-usb-networking-enduser-friendly-tp3554706p3564747.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From daniel.l.staley at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 06:42:23 2009 From: daniel.l.staley at gmail.com (Dan Staley) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 00:42:23 -0400 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: After using this app for a day of geocaching, I have to say it works quite well! My suggestions: Request the 'Display' resource (or at least the CPU) while the program is running. This will keep frameworkd from blanking the screen/suspending when you are looking for the cache! Perhaps allow the user to mark whether they found or didn't find the cache, and then allow the user to send all the data to geocaching.com later. Thanks again for this app and introducing me to this hobby! I'm having a blast! -Dan Staley On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:20 PM, D. Fett wrote: > > Hi! > > I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the > colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on > these two issues? > > Thanks, > Daniel > > > Marcel-2 wrote: > > > > Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 07:18 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: > >> - speed up map display > > > > It may be just me, but it feels slower than the last version... > > Especially reaching the map view the first time after starting the app > > takes very long. > > > >> - colors on non-standard themes should look right now :-) > > > > Works in principle. :) You still seem to set the text color once on the > > map view tab, after having had that visible all the text gets black on > > black again... > > > > Thanks for the update, it's getting better and better! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community at lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3562533.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/e0cc2e51/attachment.htm From risto at kurppa.fi Wed Sep 2 06:46:26 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:46:26 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :) CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from other projects. AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each other) on collecting cells as OpenBmap&OpenCellID - well, you just collect the cells. AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to find the position of a phone, right? 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj cellhunter cells? 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of Open Source. Can't really see it here. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From alephnull at hcoop.net Wed Sep 2 07:44:03 2009 From: alephnull at hcoop.net (Alok G. Singh) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:14:03 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690907200438xbeb4ea1nd0cf2764d9028d58@mail.gmail.com> <4A645A20.4020802@gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87eiqprjdo.fsf@klein.localdomain> Vikas Saurabh wrote: > Alok G. Singh (????) FR - A7, afaict. -- Alok Your aim is high and to the right. From cvwillegen at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 08:01:48 2009 From: cvwillegen at gmail.com (Christ van Willegen) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:01:48 +0200 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: <20090901235230.GC4110@roque.1407.org> References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> <20090901235230.GC4110@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of + > is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally > ignore it. Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the + (usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its international prefix! If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00... I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 From dj6mf at frombob.to Wed Sep 2 08:27:43 2009 From: dj6mf at frombob.to (Doug Jones) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:27:43 -0700 Subject: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A9E105F.90704@frombob.to> Cameron Frazier wrote: > Evening all, > > I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so, > and am in need of some advice. I'd like to use my FR over there, and > as such need a prepaid SIM. > > As for requirements; > 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France > (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne) > 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS > 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America > sucks this for reasonable plans). > > I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM. > > Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to > ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this. > > Any suggestions? > Qik Roam has a prepaid SIM that works in hundreds of countries. But I have no idea if anybody has succeeded in getting one working in a Freerunner. http://www.qikroam.com From t.landspurg at 8motions.com Wed Sep 2 08:59:12 2009 From: t.landspurg at 8motions.com (Thomas Landspurg) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:59:12 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> Hello Risto, Here is a few facts from such FAQ: Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the 'untrusted ones') One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID provides a complete access to the data and the measures. OpenCellId added a "CVS uploader" to import bulk CSV data files mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have any OpenMoko phone to test it. I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate them. Regards, 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa : > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: >> How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? > > I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :) > > CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html > and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) > OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: > http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) > OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: > http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download > > * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from > other projects. > > AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each > other) on collecting cells as OpenBmap&OpenCellID - well, you just > collect the cells. > AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects > AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important > data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. > > To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. > Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to > find the position of a phone, right? > > 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj > cellhunter cells? > 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet > 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner > > I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just > easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of > these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of > Open Source. Can't really see it here. > > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org From prishelec at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 09:14:52 2009 From: prishelec at gmail.com (Leonti Bielski) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 01:14:52 -0600 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. Leonti Leonti On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg wrote: > Hello Risto, > > Here is a few facts from such FAQ: > > Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the > 'untrusted ones') > > One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID > provides a complete access to the data and the measures. > > OpenCellId added a "CVS uploader" to import bulk CSV data files > mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have > any OpenMoko phone to test it. > > I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not > involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and > others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration > effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the > data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to > support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. > Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an > integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate > them. > Regards, > > 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa : >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra >> wrote: >>> How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? >> >> I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's >> :) >> >> CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html >> and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) >> OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: >> http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) >> OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: >> http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download >> >> * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from >> other projects. >> >> AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each >> other) on collecting cells as OpenBmap&OpenCellID - well, you just >> collect the cells. >> AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects >> AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important >> data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. >> >> To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. >> Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to >> find the position of a phone, right? >> >> 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj >> cellhunter cells? >> 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet >> 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner >> >> I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just >> easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of >> these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of >> Open Source. Can't really see it here. >> >> r >> >> -- >> | risto h. kurppa >> | risto at kurppa dot fi >> | http://risto.kurppa.fi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community at lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > -- > Thomas LANDSPURG > 8Motions > Founder/CTO > http://www.8motions.com > http://www.opencellid.org > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From rms at 1407.org Wed Sep 2 09:18:19 2009 From: rms at 1407.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:18:19 +0100 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> <20090901235230.GC4110@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <20090902071818.GE4110@roque.1407.org> On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 08:01:48AM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of + > > is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally > > ignore it. > > Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the + > (usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its > international prefix! > > If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole > list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00... Ah... that's news for me, I thought 00 was a standard! Then + as a "standard" is perfectly natural, it's a way to hide that complexity from a normal person, then the phone must know from the country code if it's 00, 0011, etc... Sucks... it makes it a bit confusing... for instance: Portugal +351... Albania +355... Fortunately there's no +35 so you can have a rule for "+35X NUMBER" > I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now > regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... Bah, it's good for your memory! :) Rui From ganesh.krishna at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 09:33:38 2009 From: ganesh.krishna at gmail.com (Ganesha Krishna) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:03:38 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <87eiqprjdo.fsf@klein.localdomain> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <87eiqprjdo.fsf@klein.localdomain> Message-ID: <75f19530909020033r3a153615h8c91425dc3dd0bfa@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I live in Bangalore and have an FR-A5. I am actually in the process of getting buzz fix done through a local talent (acquaintance/colleague). I need to find time to buy the components (0402: 2.2K and the tantalum cap) and coach him on what needs to be done. I am open to sending the phone to Delhi if all 3 fixes are on the menu. If its just the buzz, I would rather get it done here in Bangalore. Thank you guys for setting this up! Regards, Ganesh K On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Alok G. Singh wrote: > Vikas Saurabh wrote: > > > Alok G. Singh (????) > > FR - A7, afaict. > > -- > Alok > > Your aim is high and to the right. > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/123aaeb8/attachment.htm From psonek2 at seznam.cz Wed Sep 2 10:18:13 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:18:13 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <512800.20665.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251695711.3948.31.camel@rp-glum> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> <946952.87302.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251791938.17240.0.camel@rp-glum> <512800.20665.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1251879493.4047.8.camel@rp-glum> Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote: > Great, everything is working perfectly, thanks a lot for the help :-) > > I have one last question though: what is the recommended action to do > when not using the FR? Should I suspend it (I assume that's what > happens when I click the power button once) or simply let the screen > turn off? Obviously suspending would be the better option > battery-life-wise, but does this affect any of the phone's > functionality? Suspend should work just fine. In screen-off mode the phone will not last very long (~8hours), so suspend is better solution. Radek From larrycow at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:19:55 2009 From: larrycow at gmail.com (Olivier Migeot) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:19:55 +0200 Subject: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly In-Reply-To: <1251866495147-3564747.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251778892.4142.22.camel@rp-glum> <4A9CED70.80001@hist.no> <1251866495147-3564747.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <389eeb980909020119l161dd4a0h28ad0302de5557d9@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:41 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > ?Same here - just a static ip for the fr's mac address on ubuntu works > great for me. I've been on static IP for quite a while, but between work and home it was starting to get messy. With udhcpd, it's now much more convenient. I could even decide to change the Moko's network for something less common than 192.168.0.0 at no cost. The best would be to have a very light dhcpd daemon who only runs on USB insertion, serves only one address with a very long lease, and then dies after a few minutes. But maybe I'm dreaming there ;) -- Olivier From psonek2 at seznam.cz Wed Sep 2 10:23:14 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:23:14 +0200 Subject: QtMoko images V8 In-Reply-To: <13801C54-A489-4B01-8D83-BB8890E58851@gmail.com> References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> <1251439775617-3532785.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251443220.6424.1.camel@rp-skunk> <2bb72a1.82d1b6f.4a97a9b7.5f084@o2.pl> <1251838726322-3563015.post@n2.nabble.com> <13801C54-A489-4B01-8D83-BB8890E58851@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251879794.4047.11.camel@rp-glum> FreedomSound wrote: > I found an issue with sim code request. > > I generaly use my phone without a simcode. But today, I installed > Qtmokov8 and it didn't give me the hand. > > At first, The touch screen didn't work on HomeScreen. I pressed the > AUX button, tried anything and came back at the HomeScreen. Here the > phone asked me for the SimCode but I had'nt one. I was blocked... > > So, I toke my old phone to set a code in the simcard and put it back > in my FR. Restart it again. FR asked me instantly for my PIN code. I > did it and I could use the FR after validate. > > Sorry for my poor english. I wish that you undertsand me. Yes understand. But no idea how can i reproduce and if i have time to fix this :) Anyways thanks for reporting Radek From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Wed Sep 2 10:24:17 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:24:17 +0200 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251879857.5593.226.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > I have updated http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02#Community. > Hope thats fine! I just wanted to be sure about date, by "...on Apr 20th." you mean 2010-04-10 ??? Isn't it too early for announcing? -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From shanka.mns at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:26:25 2009 From: shanka.mns at gmail.com (Shashank Bharadwaj) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:56:25 +0530 Subject: QtMoko images V8 In-Reply-To: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: <21361d0d0909020126p10994d07w83e51e8c3168a3a8@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Radek Polak wrote: > i am just uploading new QtMoko debian images. You can download as > usually from > > http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/ [snip] > As for the speed, this image is finally fast and responsive and i think > it's very usable. This time I will leave testing on you - hopefully > nothing nasty crept in. Thanks for the release. I only got time to test it today. Basic functionality works. I like the speed of this release; finally my phone is usable again ;-) Thanks a lot again, I will report back if I find some bugs. -- Regards Shashank As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it - Albert Einstein From pike-openmoko at kw.nl Wed Sep 2 10:34:54 2009 From: pike-openmoko at kw.nl (pike) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:34:54 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme Message-ID: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> Hi I accidentaly changed the illume theme from illume-shr to 'default'. you wouldnt think that could hurt so much :-D but since i dont have the topbar anymore, i can't get to the illume wrench to change it back. i'd do it through the terminal, but i have no keyboard - because that is in the topbar to. plus, i can't ssh into the machine at this point - probably something with /etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too. soooo .. i'm stuck ? reflash it ? hilarious, *-pike From shanka.mns at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:09:26 2009 From: shanka.mns at gmail.com (Shashank Bharadwaj) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:39:26 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <4A645A20.4020802@gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21361d0d0909020109q3e6ecca8m647b8012dd5f3f69@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Vikas Saurabh wrote: > Shashank Bharadwaj (????) FR - A6 (I think) -- Regards Shashank As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it - Albert Einstein From robin.paulson at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:38:20 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:38:20 +1200 Subject: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme In-Reply-To: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> References: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909020138h3de1f888nc3a0bda6e717e7e1@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/2 pike : > I accidentaly changed the illume theme from > illume-shr to 'default'. you wouldnt think > that could hurt so much :-D but > > since i dont have the topbar anymore, i > can't get to the illume wrench to change it > back. i'd do it through the terminal, but > i have no keyboard - because that is in the > topbar to. plus, i can't ssh into the machine > at this point - probably something with > /etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change > that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too. > > soooo .. i'm stuck ? reflash it ? i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will reset to the original settings not sure why there's no topbar anymore, i'm sure both themes have it From vikas.saurabh at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:44:50 2009 From: vikas.saurabh at gmail.com (Vikas Saurabh) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:14:50 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1251879857.5593.226.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> <1251879857.5593.226.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <1cc7690909020144k4a82a89am520c286a0547d848@mail.gmail.com> > I just wanted to be sure about date, by "...on Apr 20th." you mean > 2010-04-10 ??? Isn't it too early for announcing? Ah...sorry my mistake.. I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a mail on this list to announce that IDA Systems would be having a buzz fix program in India. We still haven't been able to figure out how FRs would get at one place to get the fix done...so the actual buzz fix party date is not anywhere on the papers :( --Vikas From cvwillegen at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:54:57 2009 From: cvwillegen at gmail.com (Christ van Willegen) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:54:57 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme In-Reply-To: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> References: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:34 AM, pike wrote: > Hi > > I accidentaly changed the illume theme from > illume-shr to 'default'. you wouldnt think > that could hurt so much :-D but Yes, I know it can hurt ;-) Check out whe wiki for changing back with an mdbus command: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli#How_do_I_change_the_theme_.28Illume_.2F_Paroli_.2F_Paroli-serenity.29.3F HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 From cvwillegen at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:56:46 2009 From: cvwillegen at gmail.com (Christ van Willegen) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:56:46 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme In-Reply-To: References: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Christ van Willegen wrote: > Yes, I know it can hurt ;-) It would also help if I'd read everything... since you've got no keyboard and no SSH, this is going to be difficult... TH not.. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 From nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:58:24 2009 From: nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com (Niels Heyvaert) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:58:24 +0000 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> <20090901235230.GC4110@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: >> + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of + >> is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally >> ignore it. > > Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the + > (usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its > international prefix! > > If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole > list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00... > > I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now > regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... > > Christ van Willegen > -- Adding my observations to the mix: I haven't changed any of the phone settings and store all my phone numbers in the international format (with '+' sign). In the config file the default country code is set to 49, which is different from my actual country code. Incomming calls and messages map very nice to the contact names. I haven't received any international calls or text messages since I've started using SHR-U, but will keep an eye on it. Niels. _________________________________________________________________ Reageer op foto?s van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe. Gegarandeerd hilariteit! http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx From khoonirobo at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 10:59:35 2009 From: khoonirobo at gmail.com (Vibhav Sharma) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:29:35 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690907200438xbeb4ea1nd0cf2764d9028d58@mail.gmail.com> <4A645A20.4020802@gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A9E33F7.3050500@gmail.com> Vikas Saurabh wrote: > Vibhav Sharma (FR - ??) @Vikas, was waiting for your update. I too have been busy but will have time from next week. Let me know if you need any help. I have a FR - A5, in for Buzz and Bug #1024 atleast. Let me see about the Bass. -- Vibhav Sharma (khoonirobo) From pike-openmoko at kw.nl Wed Sep 2 11:00:16 2009 From: pike-openmoko at kw.nl (pike) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:00:16 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme [solved] In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909020138h3de1f888nc3a0bda6e717e7e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> <2f3aa2770909020138h3de1f888nc3a0bda6e717e7e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A9E3420.2000905@kw.nl> Hi > i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will > reset to the original settings I managed to log in through wifi - boy am i glad i made a desktop icon for activating my home wifi :-) - and deleting ~/.e did it. thanks! *-pike From robin.paulson at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 11:12:20 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:12:20 +1200 Subject: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme [solved] In-Reply-To: <4A9E3420.2000905@kw.nl> References: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> <2f3aa2770909020138h3de1f888nc3a0bda6e717e7e1@mail.gmail.com> <4A9E3420.2000905@kw.nl> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909020212pd3ed1b2w44420880e26b7fa@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/2 pike : >> i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will >> reset to the original settings > > I managed to log in through wifi - boy am i > glad i made a desktop icon for activating my home > wifi :-) - and deleting ~/.e did it. of course, you can always log in through ssh over usb From tanuva at googlemail.com Wed Sep 2 11:14:44 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:14:44 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: > Hi! > > I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the > colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on > these two issues? Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit there. Which would be disappointing... I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget that points at the widget's center - intentionally? From robin.paulson at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 11:15:31 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:15:31 +1200 Subject: problems with intone In-Reply-To: <1251815888509-3560927.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010314l590f995fi2934c38bb2cc8e64@mail.gmail.com> <1251815888509-3560927.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909020215s189e4309rd7f6c80a0a716bf3@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/2 c_c : > ?Ok. Thanks. That helped catch a bug. Can you try the attached binary and > see if it works? Just scp it to /usr/bin. > > ? Do post back. > Thanks Again. i did the scan again, it took ages (it always hangs at 46 tracks in 6 albums), so i tapped the close icon on the message box, and it segfaulted. done this three times now, always identical no error message on the console, other than segfault From vanous at penguin.cz Wed Sep 2 11:20:30 2009 From: vanous at penguin.cz (Petr Vanek) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:20:30 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090902112030.344f2b79@vanek.robe.cz> >So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? >For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses >some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then >obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. > >Leonti yes, it is lots of fun :) , the website is down now, what team do you kick for? :)) Petr From fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de Wed Sep 2 11:21:19 2009 From: fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de (D. Fett) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 04:21:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <1251883279312-3565673.post@n2.nabble.com> Marcel-2 wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: >> Hi! >> >> I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the >> colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on >> these two issues? > > Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( > Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit > there. Which would be disappointing... > I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget > that points at the widget's center - intentionally? > Yes, the crosshair is intentionally. I plan to integrate an option to switch it on or off. Map drawing will never be as fast as the map drawing in tangogps. This is indeed a python limitation, although i don't know if it is already as fast as it can be. Maybe we have some python expert here who can look over my implementation? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3565673.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From risto at kurppa.fi Wed Sep 2 11:22:36 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:22:36 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <20090902042841.GE28624@nysv.org> References: <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> <20090901131437.GW28624@nysv.org> <20090902042841.GE28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: http://www.samsungapps.com/ - they're copying us! David: great to see the svn! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From david at tuxbrain.com Wed Sep 2 11:43:23 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:43:23 +0200 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: References: <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> <20090901131437.GW28624@nysv.org> <20090902042841.GE28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909020243ya954924jc07bee5aeb464d30@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa : > http://www.samsungapps.com/ > > - they're copying us! LOL, is a GPL project they are allowed to do it meanwhile they get access to the original source :) jokes a part , this can be a source of inspiration , lets see if they provide innovative ideas or will be only a list of payfordownload apps with some pics. > > David: great to see the svn! thanks :), looks pretty isn't it? :) so if the code looks so fine the final app has to be twice better :) > > r > > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From david at tuxbrain.com Wed Sep 2 11:45:08 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:45:08 +0200 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <20090902042442.GD28624@nysv.org> References: <20090829104804.GG28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909011909r2cc5f814tcdf6a91e7012d3e@mail.gmail.com> <20090902042442.GD28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909020245g310303d5i4d88eed1f5276a9@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/2 Markus T?rnqvist : > On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 04:09:30AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > [...] >>course make at least a devel om-showrom site :P but here is one step >>more of this long road. >>https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/ > > Hooray! > >>also access to svn though ssh or https are setup and working but I >>have to figure out how to enable the Reading operations (checkout,... >>etc) without need to login just lack of time to read and code, this is >>one of my next steps, at least people can access to code with >>webfrontend, those who wants access please let me know (Markus? :P) > > Count me in! > > Shall I give you an ssh public key or how do we do this? Hi ssh+svn through a public key maybe is the most comfortable option, so send me a private mail with user name do you want i and a public key to generate the key(Markus sure you know but maybe other willing to colaborate and this aplies to anyone wanting to code on this) on the pc you want to use your local svn clone $ mkdir ~/.ssh/ $ cd ~/.ssh/ $ ssh-keygen -t dsa and send to me the ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub > >>the only difference from the original ?apt-portal ?checkout is >>opkg2sql.py[1] script and sqlite db file[2] generated from the >>succesfull import > > Hmm the db might be a bit volatile to be in the VCS, considering > it is regenerated easily, but ok :) > Yes surelly this will get out of the vcs soon, but maybe someone is curiouse about structure or the info extracted from the repo so this was a q&d to make it available for download, and ... what the hell !! I was proud of the success and want to show it :P > -- > mjt > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From tilman at baumann.name Wed Sep 2 11:52:57 2009 From: tilman at baumann.name (Tilman Baumann) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:52:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> <20090901235230.GC4110@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <5ab53412f14ecd47aa9626329def4ad5.squirrel@gnukia.org> Sorry I missed the whole thread. Need to read it all in a free minute. Sorry if I spam you with irrelevant stuff. But my post to dial plans and number cannonification from last year might be interesting for you guys. http://www.mail-archive.com/devel at lists.openmoko.org/msg00073.html There was much discussion on that thread. But the conclusion is, if you know your dialplan (internationalPrefix, longDistancePrefix and countryCode) you can transform every local number into the full international form +xxyyzzzzz And from that, if you would like you can transform it back by applying your dial plan. But there is of course not much need for that on cell networks. Regards Tilman Niels Heyvaert wrote: > >>> + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage >>> of + >>> is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to >>> intentionally >>> ignore it. >> >> Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the + >> (usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its >> international prefix! >> >> If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole >> list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00... >> >> I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now >> regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... >> >> Christ van Willegen >> -- > > Adding my observations to the mix: > > I haven't changed any of the phone settings and store all my phone numbers > in the international format (with '+' sign). In the config file the > default country code is set to 49, which is different from my actual > country code. > > Incomming calls and messages map very nice to the contact names. > > I haven't received any international calls or text messages since I've > started using SHR-U, but will keep an eye on it. > > Niels. > _________________________________________________________________ > Reageer op foto?s van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe. > Gegarandeerd hilariteit! > http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- MFG Tilman Baumann From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 11:53:54 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:53:54 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:11 AM, c_c wrote: >> I would like to ask, how to add an albumart to intone? >> > ?In this case - change the name of the file Lady GaGa - Poker Face.jpg to > cover.jpg. That should display your cover art. And what would be the name for other mp3s? So lets suppose I have two mp3s: Lady GaGa - Poker Face.mp3 Elvis - Hound dog.mp3 What should I name the pictures for each track? cover1.jpg, cover2.jpg? Does not seem to a viable way to me;) Especially as we put the lyrics to [trackname].txt file. >> What is the fileformat of lyrics? > ?It's a text file as you have discovered. :-) BTW you could use intone as a > flashcard app with music / speech accompaniment this way!! I have many problems with your lyrics implementation (minor issues mostly), I will write in the lyrics thread, as I have started it. > ?I use [1] for getting the lyrics and album art. In fact I had planned on > using their API to automate getting lyrics and album art - but apparently > because of licensing issues the API has been stopped. Understood. I use lyricwiki.org too with a bit of google magic. >> Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is. >> No advanced feature, like karaoke....;) >> > ?Do you have any ideas on how to implement karaoke without using up too > much CPU? I thought that the basic DSP stuff (being floating point) would > kill the Neo. > ?I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get > a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal. I have plenty of ideas, I always have. I will write to the lyrics thread. >> Could you please wrap lines of textbox? > ?Sure! Next release this weekend. I have more problems too, please read my upcoming post in the lyrics thread. Best regards, Laszlo From tanuva at googlemail.com Wed Sep 2 12:04:27 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:04:27 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251883279312-3565673.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> <1251883279312-3565673.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251885867.3641.21.camel@d-wwow> Am Mittwoch, den 02.09.2009, 04:21 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: > > > Marcel-2 wrote: > > > > Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: > >> Hi! > >> > >> I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the > >> colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on > >> these two issues? > > > > Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( > > Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit > > there. Which would be disappointing... > > I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget > > that points at the widget's center - intentionally? > > > > Yes, the crosshair is intentionally. I plan to integrate an option to switch > it on or off. > > Map drawing will never be as fast as the map drawing in tangogps. This is > indeed a python limitation, although i don't know if it is already as fast > as it can be. Maybe we have some python expert here who can look over my > implementation? That'd be great... What about using the original GC.com cache icons for GCs? Of couse one would have to download them separately (licensing issues iirc from the TangoGPS geocaching "extension"). From fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de Wed Sep 2 12:11:28 2009 From: fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de (D. Fett) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 05:11:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251885867.3641.21.camel@d-wwow> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> <1251883279312-3565673.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251885867.3641.21.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <1251886288040-3565865.post@n2.nabble.com> Marcel-2 wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 02.09.2009, 04:21 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: >> >> >> Marcel-2 wrote: >> > >> > Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: >> >> Hi! >> >> >> >> I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and >> the >> >> colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback >> on >> >> these two issues? >> > >> > Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( >> > Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit >> > there. Which would be disappointing... >> > I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget >> > that points at the widget's center - intentionally? >> > >> >> Yes, the crosshair is intentionally. I plan to integrate an option to >> switch >> it on or off. >> >> Map drawing will never be as fast as the map drawing in tangogps. This is >> indeed a python limitation, although i don't know if it is already as >> fast >> as it can be. Maybe we have some python expert here who can look over my >> implementation? > > That'd be great... > > What about using the original GC.com cache icons for GCs? Of couse one > would have to download them separately (licensing issues iirc from the > TangoGPS geocaching "extension"). > Sorry, but i absolutely don't want these icons in the app, for some reasons: - the licensing issues you already mentioned - but more importantly, these icons are very big. You don't see where the geocache is actually located. Therefore i choose the square (so you can easily spot the geocache) with the little crosshair in the center (so you can see where _exactly_ the geocache is located). - drawing the icons would be slower than drawing simple squares and lines - it's easier to make the squares and lines translucent, so that the user can see underlying streets -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3565865.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 12:12:16 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:12:16 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > I have many problems with your lyrics implementation (minor issues mostly), > I will write in the lyrics thread, as I have started it. Doh, my mistake. This is the lyrics thread.... Ok, current problems with lyrics implementation: 1. It seems you always brute force load the lyrics text to a elementary.Entry (textbox) widget. And it is SLOOOW. Especially when changing tracks. proposed solution: have two elementary.Entry widget, and load the next text of lyrics to the other Entry, which is hided. When changing track, you simple hide the current Entry, and show the other. In the background you reload the text into the hided Entry. Most of the time the next track can be determined easily. 2. Entry does not wrap lines. (I already written about it) 3. Entry does not scroll at the beginning when it loads a new entry text. Its rather confusing. So when the track changes and a new musics gets played i see on the display the same part of text just from the new lyrics (ie. from line 30-40) There should be an entry scrolling function, If you have difficulty to find it, just signal, and I try to digg it more. 4. The scrollbar is disabled. Would be nice to see visually where Im in the lyrics. Again, if you dont find it, I can search for you, I know paroli disable/enable it, just Mirko wrote it not me. I can digg it more if required. 5. Disable horizontal scrolling. (so no padding freely the text) It is doable, paroli do it too. In msgs app, Im sure. (again Mirko wrote it, so I need to find it in the code). If you dont find me, just signal, and I look it up. 6. Although not only lyrics related, but it seems, when I change back to the list view, you regenerate the elementary.List. So there is glitch. I see the newly generated list, and after a sec, it flash a bit, and scroll down where the current track is. I think you should simply hide the Elementary list, when you change between list, album art, lyrics. But Im just guessing here. 7. >>> Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is. >>> No advanced feature, like karaoke....;) >>> >> Do you have any ideas on how to implement karaoke without using up too >> much CPU? I thought that the basic DSP stuff (being floating point) would >> kill the Neo. >> I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get >> a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal. > >I have plenty of ideas, I always have. I will write to the lyrics thread. Ok here is my idea: You can use in elementary.Entry html formatted text. So some formatting is possible. Maybe elementary.Anchorview is required too for working. Once you can change the text to bold, you can mark the actual word/line to bold. It should be pretty fast. I think we should begin with marking the whole line, it is much easier. >> I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get >> a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal. There is karaoke format too, where it marks the current char. Dunno the exact format my past mp3 player supported it, but really badly. (it truncated lines, only displayed the first x lines, so was pretty much useless) What I propose is use the movie subtitle format. It is or .srt or .sub format. There is time based format and frame based format too. It looks like this: [00:00.00.0000-00:00.01.0200] This is the first line to display [00:00.02.0000-00:00.03.0300] This is the second line to display You can also use the mplayer own subtitle format, which works relative and not absolute timings: [(time to wait) (time to display)] line [1 2] It wait one sec after the precedent line, and displays 2 sec long [1 1] It wait one sec, and displays for one sec [4 2] wait 4 sec, and displays for 2 sec. You need a simple text processor, and mark the text in entry (but dont reload it each time!). I hope this helps. Best regards, Laszlo From frobiac at googlemail.com Wed Sep 2 12:17:52 2009 From: frobiac at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Fr=F6be?=) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:17:52 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251885867.3641.21.camel@d-wwow> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> <1251883279312-3565673.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251885867.3641.21.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <58a51a770909020317l51d23a19nc2d7d7ac36359695@mail.gmail.com> > > What about using the original GC.com cache icons for GCs? Of couse one > would have to download them separately (licensing issues iirc from the > TangoGPS geocaching "extension"). > After several requests to logo at groundspeak.com and contact at groundspeak.com I finally got permission to include the cache icons in my geocaching enhancements to TangoGPS, so that isn't an issue anymore - you just have to be persistent! Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/19a4f342/attachment.htm From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 12:18:45 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:18:45 +0200 Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:17 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> >> Just wanted to let you know c_c, that intone does not follow symlinks. >> > ?There was an issue with some filesystems some time ago. To debug that, I > had disabled following symlinks and I found no solution to that problem. > ?Let me recheck. You can also lookup the symlink, and if required ask for user confirmation. >> Could intone be fixed to follow this symlink? >> > ?You can add the original directory directly to Intone for now. I'll try > and fix this. Might take some time though - I'm a bit busy adding features > to launcher. Have you tried the new release? > Thanks. MAybe just me, but I dont find an overview where each added directory is listed. I always thought I can add only one directory (and its subdirectories). Is the gui support it? If so, something needs to do, as its hardly discoverable. I installed intone via opkg update; opkg install intone yesterday (in shr) Dunno if its the latest or not. But pulled the additional requisites automatically. Best regards, Laszlo From tanuva at googlemail.com Wed Sep 2 12:20:18 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:20:18 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251886288040-3565865.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> <1251883279312-3565673.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251885867.3641.21.camel@d-wwow> <1251886288040-3565865.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251886818.3641.23.camel@d-wwow> Am Mittwoch, den 02.09.2009, 05:11 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: > Sorry, but i absolutely don't want these icons in the app, for some reasons: > - the licensing issues you already mentioned > - but more importantly, these icons are very big. You don't see where the > geocache is actually located. Therefore i choose the square (so you can > easily spot the geocache) with the little crosshair in the center (so you > can see where _exactly_ the geocache is located). > - drawing the icons would be slower than drawing simple squares and lines > - it's easier to make the squares and lines translucent, so that the user > can see underlying streets I admit I wondered which of both would draw faster, that's of course important. :) From frobiac at googlemail.com Wed Sep 2 12:25:44 2009 From: frobiac at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Fr=F6be?=) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:25:44 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251886288040-3565865.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> <1251883279312-3565673.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251885867.3641.21.camel@d-wwow> <1251886288040-3565865.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <58a51a770909020325m29c5407bpd60956d2ea9064a1@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM, D. Fett wrote: > > > > > What about using the original GC.com cache icons for GCs? Of couse one > > would have to download them separately (licensing issues iirc from the > > TangoGPS geocaching "extension"). > > > > Sorry, but i absolutely don't want these icons in the app, for some > reasons: > - the licensing issues you already mentioned > Can be resolved, see my other mail > - but more importantly, these icons are very big. You don't see where the > geocache is actually located. Therefore i choose the square (so you can > easily spot the geocache) with the little crosshair in the center (so you > can see where _exactly_ the geocache is located). > I find it more intuitive to see the original pixmaps, and as they stay the same size (32x32px) as I zoom in to let's say level 20 when near a cache that corresponds to just a few centimeters on a map, thus much less than the general accuracy of the GPSr ... - drawing the icons would be slower than drawing simple squares and lines > Is that so? It's on my Todo-List to benchmark these different approaches, but not necessarily a major slow-down from my expererience. - it's easier to make the squares and lines translucent, so that the user > can see underlying streets > That is a valid point in my opinion, plus it offers several posiibilities (nice to see the names on the map, btw!) So to me there are no apparent technical difficulties to do so, but of course this depends entirely on the intended design of the SW, and the result is most likely merely a cosmetical one. Nice to see some alternatives, though, and the online features and the database browsing is a real plus here! Stefan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/3d6f567f/attachment-0001.htm From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Wed Sep 2 13:57:14 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:57:14 +0200 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909020144k4a82a89am520c286a0547d848@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> <1251879857.5593.226.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909020144k4a82a89am520c286a0547d848@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251892634.5593.230.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> [cut] > I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a But April was in the past. How can you tell people that this party will be organized in the past? I don't get it, is it something wrong with me? -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Wed Sep 2 14:04:23 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:04:23 +0200 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1251892634.5593.230.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> <1251879857.5593.226.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909020144k4a82a89am520c286a0547d848@mail.gmail.com> <1251892634.5593.230.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <1251893063.5593.233.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Dnia 2009-09-02, ?ro o godzinie 13:57 +0200, Patryk Benderz pisze: > [cut] > > I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a > But April was in the past. How can you tell people that this party will > be organized in the past? I don't get it, is it something wrong with me? OK, i think i get it now. On April 20th there was an announcement only? If so, i would change text on CU from: "IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers on Apr 20th" to: "On Apr 20th, IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers. Exact date of buzz fix is not known yet..." -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From vendion at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 13:57:04 2009 From: vendion at gmail.com (Adam Jimerson) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:57:04 -0400 Subject: Launcher 0.30 release In-Reply-To: <1251866223286-3564732.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1250786989763-3480288.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820171915.GC5203@roque.1407.org> <1250818131831-3483405.post@n2.nabble.com> <1250818232191-3483421.post@n2.nabble.com> <200908211352.31428.vendion@charter.net> <1251866223286-3564732.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:37 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > vendion wrote: > > > > Location data doesn't work for me. > > > Launcher currently subscribes to all cell broadcast channels. Some > transmit info only on registration. Maybe a reboot will help. > > This may help but would Launcher need to be running while the SIM is in the registration process with my provider? > vendion wrote: > > > > I change %H:%M to %I:%M %p but when I close it reverts back to 24 hour > > format. > > > Did you press the set time button? Can you try the new release and let me > know? > Using the binary you sent me in the other email, which by the way I have info I need to post back about it, it was able to work > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-0-30-release-tp3480288p3564732.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/00fac3ed/attachment.htm From vendion at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 14:08:35 2009 From: vendion at gmail.com (Adam Jimerson) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:08:35 -0400 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:05 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > vendion wrote: > > > > I have problems with working with the contacts in this release, I > > currently > > don't have the ability to ssh into the phone to more details, but when > > launching the built in contacts Launcher crashes with a corruption error. > > > Can you try the attached binary and let me know if it works? There is an > error with the sms app - something to do with the latest updates in opimd. > But the rest should work. > Thanks. > > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3559779/launcher launcher > With that I was able to access contacts, which are acting weird every entry was attemped to be duplicated but for some reason every contact only has a first name on my SIM card they all have first and last names and for the phone number field it is ether blank or some weird encoding characters (Don't know if this is a problem with Launcher, my OPIMD database, how pisi copied over the contacts). I was also able to almost use the SMS application, crashed when I hit the "Reply" button. Here is the console output I got, if you need more info let me know what you need and I'll be more than happy to provide: root at om-gta02 ~ $ launcher restoring state version:32 scanning apps showing window starting dbus thread Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged dbus init over. getting opim data Getting SMS data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Getting Calls data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Getting Contacts data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Updating Calls Data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Updating SMS data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Updating Contacts Data.. Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidBackend - This backend does not feature add_message Segmentation fault > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3559779.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/dbbbb33e/attachment.htm From rms at ansol.org Wed Sep 2 14:37:20 2009 From: rms at ansol.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:37:20 +0100 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas Message-ID: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> http://lwn.net/Articles/350100/ Con Kolivas, who worked on desktop interactivity issues in the past before storming off in 2007, has posted a new scheduler called BFS. "It was designed to be forward looking only, make the most of lower spec machines, and not scale to massive hardware. ie it is a desktop orientated scheduler, with extremely low latencies for excellent interactivity by design rather than 'calculated', with rigid fairness, nice priority distribution and extreme scalability within normal load levels." http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt From rms at 1407.org Wed Sep 2 14:37:34 2009 From: rms at 1407.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:37:34 +0100 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas Message-ID: <20090902123734.GJ4110@roque.1407.org> http://lwn.net/Articles/350100/ Con Kolivas, who worked on desktop interactivity issues in the past before storming off in 2007, has posted a new scheduler called BFS. "It was designed to be forward looking only, make the most of lower spec machines, and not scale to massive hardware. ie it is a desktop orientated scheduler, with extremely low latencies for excellent interactivity by design rather than 'calculated', with rigid fairness, nice priority distribution and extreme scalability within normal load levels." http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 14:56:26 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:56:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > You can also lookup the symlink, and if required ask for user > confirmation. > Well, I'll restore symlink support. Try this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566554/intone intone Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Maybe just me, but I dont find an overview where each added directory is > listed. > You're right - the gui shows only the last added directory - but you can add as many as you like. I wonder how I can show all the added directories in the limited UI. Maybe open another window? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/intone-and-symlinks-tp3562612p3566554.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 15:00:01 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:00:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher 0.30 release In-Reply-To: References: <1250786989763-3480288.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820171915.GC5203@roque.1407.org> <1250818131831-3483405.post@n2.nabble.com> <1250818232191-3483421.post@n2.nabble.com> <200908211352.31428.vendion@charter.net> <1251866223286-3564732.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251896401763-3566567.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, vendion wrote: > > This may help but would Launcher need to be running while the SIM is in > the > registration process with my provider? > No. The cell broadcast subscription can be set separately - after the registration with your provider is complete. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-0-30-release-tp3480288p3566567.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com Wed Sep 2 15:01:46 2009 From: nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com (Niels Heyvaert) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:01:46 +0000 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/350100/ > > Con Kolivas, who worked on desktop interactivity issues in the past before > storming off in 2007, has posted a new scheduler called BFS. "It was > designed to be forward looking only, make the most of lower spec machines, > and not scale to massive hardware. ie it is a desktop orientated scheduler, > with extremely low latencies for excellent interactivity by design rather > than 'calculated', with rigid fairness, nice priority distribution and > extreme scalability within normal load levels." > > http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt > Reading the FAQ text and reactions on LWN it appears to me that the author has no intention whatsoever to merge this into the mainline kernel tree... _________________________________________________________________ Je hele online leven op ??n stek met Windows Live http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/default.aspx From vendion at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 15:08:38 2009 From: vendion at gmail.com (Adam Jimerson) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:08:38 -0400 Subject: Launcher 0.30 release In-Reply-To: <1251896401763-3566567.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1250786989763-3480288.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820171915.GC5203@roque.1407.org> <1250818131831-3483405.post@n2.nabble.com> <1250818232191-3483421.post@n2.nabble.com> <200908211352.31428.vendion@charter.net> <1251866223286-3564732.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896401763-3566567.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:00 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > vendion wrote: > > > > This may help but would Launcher need to be running while the SIM is in > > the > > registration process with my provider? > > > No. The cell broadcast subscription can be set separately - after the > registration with your provider is complete. > > Well there goes that idea, with the latest binary it still is not getting cell location and the phone and launcher has been rebooted several times. 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URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/931b3422/attachment.htm From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 15:10:41 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:10:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, vendion wrote: > > With that I was able to access contacts, which are acting weird > Can you open a terminal and try the following commands? 1. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contacts.Query {} This will return something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 2. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 org.freesmartphone.PIM.ContactQuery.GetMultipleResults 5 3. This should print out your contacts as returned by opim. Can you send me the output of your final command and the /home/root/.launcher/launcher.db file? Thanks. vendion wrote: > > I was also able to almost use the SMS application, crashed when I hit the > "Reply" button. > Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidBackend - This backend does not > feature add_message > Segmentation fault > You need to change the message domain to sqlite-messages to use the opimd services. Please do that and retry. In fact try it with this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566595/launcher launcher This has a couple of fixes to prevent segfaults on some conditions like this. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3566595.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From vendion at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 15:21:05 2009 From: vendion at gmail.com (Adam Jimerson) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:21:05 -0400 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:10 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > vendion wrote: > > > > With that I was able to access contacts, which are acting weird > > > Can you open a terminal and try the following commands? > 1. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts > org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contacts.Query {} > > This will return something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 > > 2. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd > /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 > org.freesmartphone.PIM.ContactQuery.GetMultipleResults 5 > > 3. This should print out your contacts as returned by opim. Can you send me > the output of your final command and the /home/root/.launcher/launcher.db > file? > Thanks. > > vendion wrote: > > > > I was also able to almost use the SMS application, crashed when I hit the > > "Reply" button. > > Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidBackend - This backend does not > > feature add_message > > Segmentation fault > > > You need to change the message domain to sqlite-messages to use the opimd > services. Please do that and retry. > In fact try it with this binary. > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566595/launcher launcher This has a couple of > fixes to prevent segfaults on some conditions like this. > Thanks. > Thinks for the update, I will give this a try and report back my findings. I would like to thank you for all the hard work you put into your programs and they are always great, please keep up the great work! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/b4078675/attachment.htm From mjt at nysv.org Wed Sep 2 15:30:51 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:30:51 +0300 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:01:46PM +0000, Niels Heyvaert wrote: >> http://lwn.net/Articles/350100/ > >Reading the FAQ text and reactions on LWN it appears to me that the author >has no intention whatsoever to merge this into the mainline kernel tree... But aren't there "vendor" kernels for the moko already? -- mjt From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 15:35:29 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:35:29 +0200 Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: >Well, I'll restore symlink support. Thank you!+ On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:56 PM, c_c wrote: > ?You're right - the gui shows only the last added directory - but you can > add as many as you like. I wonder how I can show all the added directories > in the limited UI. Maybe open another window? Or make a list? Change the button to: Set songs dir -> Set songs dir (4 in total) And when I click on it, I should have a list with currently added dir, and a browse button (what the set songs dir button do it now). Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 15:43:45 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:43:45 +0200 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: > On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:01:46PM +0000, Niels Heyvaert wrote: >>Reading the FAQ text and reactions on LWN it appears to me that the author >>has no intention whatsoever to merge this into the mainline kernel tree... BEcause his precedent work was not merged for years? I would not expect to be merged either ... I dont think he would opposed the merge. Laszlo From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 15:50:10 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:50:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: problems with intone In-Reply-To: <2f3aa2770909020215s189e4309rd7f6c80a0a716bf3@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010314l590f995fi2934c38bb2cc8e64@mail.gmail.com> <1251815888509-3560927.post@n2.nabble.com> <2f3aa2770909020215s189e4309rd7f6c80a0a716bf3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251899410035-3566692.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: > > i did the scan again, it took ages (it always hangs at 46 tracks in 6 > albums) > Well, that could be an issue with the song file. Can you fsck your filesystem containing the audio files. Robin Paulson wrote: > > so i tapped the close icon on the message box, and it > segfaulted. done this three times now, always identical > Yup. Thats another bug fixed - stopping the scan is a problem as of now. Will work on it later. Can you try the attached binary from the terminal? It will print out names of the files it is adding. Maybe that can give some clue as to why it hangs. Thanks http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566692/intone intone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/problems-with-intone-tp3559585p3566692.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From daniel.l.staley at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 15:51:52 2009 From: daniel.l.staley at gmail.com (Dan Staley) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:51:52 -0400 Subject: Launcher 0.30 release In-Reply-To: References: <1250786989763-3480288.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820171915.GC5203@roque.1407.org> <1250818131831-3483405.post@n2.nabble.com> <1250818232191-3483421.post@n2.nabble.com> <200908211352.31428.vendion@charter.net> <1251866223286-3564732.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896401763-3566567.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Adam Jimerson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:00 AM, c_c wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> vendion wrote: >> > >> > This may help but would Launcher need to be running while the SIM is in >> > the >> > registration process with my provider? >> > >> No. The cell broadcast subscription can be set separately - after the >> registration with your provider is complete. >> >> > Well there goes that idea, with the latest binary it still is not getting > cell location and the phone and launcher has been rebooted several times. > If it helps I am using T-Mobile in the USA, so I don't know if their > network/towers support this, maybe someone who is in the same situation as I > am can say otherwise? > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > I also don't get cell broadcasts. I am using AT&T in the USA. -Dan Staley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/5cc4a01c/attachment.htm From nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com Wed Sep 2 15:57:17 2009 From: nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com (Niels Heyvaert) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:57:17 +0000 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: >>>Reading the FAQ text and reactions on LWN it appears to me that the author >>>has no intention whatsoever to merge this into the mainline kernel tree... > > BEcause his precedent work was not merged for years? > I would not expect to be merged either ... > > I dont think he would opposed the merge. Hmm... In fact it's worse. He tried to get it merged but that did not work out (for a number of reasons, so it seems). But now he gave up the ambition and writes his code in such a way it will never get merged anyway. His own FAQ is very explicit about this: " Why BFS? Because it's designed in such a way that mainline would never be interested in adopting it, which is how I like it. ... Are you looking at getting this into mainline? LOL. No really, are you? LOL. Really really, are you? No. ... " _________________________________________________________________ Reageer op foto?s van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe. Gegarandeerd hilariteit! http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx From hersche at puzzle.ch Wed Sep 2 16:34:08 2009 From: hersche at puzzle.ch (Vinzenz Hersche) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:34:08 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <1251777018.4142.10.camel@rp-glum> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200909010040.49986.hersche@puzzle.ch> <1251777018.4142.10.camel@rp-glum> Message-ID: <200909021634.08842.hersche@puzzle.ch> another little idea for this; if the user said in (future) options, that he want to let the sms be on sim, so may it's nice if he could then also select "delete last sms on simcard when sim-storage full" and may a number for how much sms should be deleted. and as alternative, if he didn't want to delete them, the sms on simcard could be synced for the qtmoko-db, as example on start and if the storage is full, it just saved the sms to the qtmoko-db and doesn't touch the sim. i will do that into the wiki later :) Am Dienstag, 1. September 2009 05.50:18 schrieb Radek Polak: > Vinzenz Hersche wrote: > > first, is it now possible to import vcf-files without changing > > sim-entrys? i must not see the sim-entrys, but i didn't want all the > > contactname/hp-contacts on my sim-card. > > No idea here, i would have to check sources... > > > second.. does it also delete all sms'es from sim-card? for me, this isn't > > good, because i couldn't read them then later on shr or something. > > Yes. Maybe it could be made optional. This is the commit and the place > where it could be changed: > > http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/commit/d9eb3b8d2e4b4c4e339c6249c192e1cde0bc > dcc9 > > Regards > > Radek > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 16:36:45 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:36:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Let me first thank you for taking the time to suggest improvements to this part of intone. I was getting the feeling that maybe people hardly used these features - particularly the lyrics view. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > So lets suppose I have two mp3s: > Lady GaGa - Poker Face.mp3 > Elvis - Hound dog.mp3 > Well, that is a limitation. I was working on the concept that the songs would be organised in directories by album - so the cover art would remain the same for all songs in a directory. For a directory filled with mixed songs - I will need to get the album name from the tags (if the file is tagged) and then look for the album art in some predefined directory based on the tag. Seemed like a lot of work to do at that time :-) I'll try and do something like the above when I find some free time. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 1. It seems you always brute force load the lyrics text to a > elementary.Entry (textbox) widget. And it is SLOOOW. Especially when > changing tracks. > > 6. Although not only lyrics related, but it seems, when I change back > to the list view, you regenerate the elementary.List. > That it is. Unfortunately, hidden widgets in elementary still occupy space. Hence I need to delete them, and then add them again when needed. If you find a better way - do let me know. I can read the next file into a large buffer and copy from there on song change. But that might play up with the memory. I'll try that and see how it goes. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 2. Entry does not wrap lines > 3. Entry does not scroll at the beginning when it loads a new entry text > 4. The scrollbar is disabled > 5. Disable horizontal scrolling > Done. Try the attached binary below. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 7. ...(about the karaoke support)... > Well, I like the idea and am willing to implement it. Only - are there lyrics files available in the subtitle formats? And which format do I support? I can use either the .srt/.sub/mplayer formats. Thanks for the suggestions and ideas though. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3567145.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 16:38:21 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251902301816-3567159.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Forgot to attach the binary. Here it is. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3567159/intone intone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3567159.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 16:49:24 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:49:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher 0.30 release In-Reply-To: References: <1250786989763-3480288.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820171915.GC5203@roque.1407.org> <1250818131831-3483405.post@n2.nabble.com> <1250818232191-3483421.post@n2.nabble.com> <200908211352.31428.vendion@charter.net> <1251866223286-3564732.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896401763-3566567.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251902964174-3567248.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, It could be that some providers may not be broadcasting anything at all. I can confirm that I am getting broadcast on channel 50 in India and Leonti reports getting them too. Can you try the attached binary? It will show you channel numbers for any broadcasts and let you select the channels to subscribe to. Initially the subscribed channels are set to 'all' in configure. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3567248/launcher launcher Can you confirm that you get cell info messages in a nokia phone with the same SIM? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-0-30-release-tp3480288p3567248.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 17:02:24 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:02:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251903744830-3567362.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Thank you!+ > Already done in the binary posted on the other list. Can you post back after trying? Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Or make a list? > Change the button to: > Set songs dir -> Set songs dir (4 in total) > And when I click on it, I should have a list with currently added dir, and > a browse button (what the set songs dir button do it now). > I assume you mean add a list with all the added directories? Ok. I'll try that out. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/intone-and-symlinks-tp3562612p3567362.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rusolis at poczta.fm Wed Sep 2 17:34:42 2009 From: rusolis at poczta.fm (Michal Brzozowski) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:34:42 +0200 Subject: german "fixing the #1024" bug party In-Reply-To: <200909012246.37553.zimmermann@vdm-design.de> References: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> <4A9D8531.1060707@gmx.net> <200909012246.37553.zimmermann@vdm-design.de> Message-ID: <8b48b1570909020834p637f436ehfbf86ad021a44eb5@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/1 Thomas Zimmermann > Am Dienstag 01 September 2009 22:33:53 schrieb Fox Mulder: > > Kahless wrote: > > > hi all, > > > > > > I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it > > > somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) ) > > > > > > Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small > > > bug fix party? > > > > I would be willing to do the buzz-fix solution with adding a 10?F cap to > > the existing which i already did to my own freerunner. But i live near > > Frankfurt a.M. which is not very near to NRW. > > > > Ciao, > > Rainer > I would join the bug fix party, i'm living near Koblenz, so for me it's no > difference between Frankfurt and NRW. > If you're doing a fix party, could I send my FR to one of you so it gets fixed too? I'd also want the buzz-fix, would it be a big inconvenience? I'd be really grateful. Michal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/6e058b98/attachment-0001.htm From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 17:35:39 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:35:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, I used to use the -ck patches for my kernels while they were around and they were always more responsive on my desktop than the standard kernels. If this makes the FR more responsive - its would be worthwhile trying - just to see if it makes any difference at all. Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Interesting-Linux-development-for-lower-resources-machines-from-Con-Kolivas-tp3566462p3567588.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ockham at raz.or.at Wed Sep 2 17:49:22 2009 From: ockham at raz.or.at (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:49:22 +0200 Subject: german "fixing the #1024" bug party In-Reply-To: <8b48b1570909020834p637f436ehfbf86ad021a44eb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> <4A9D8531.1060707@gmx.net> <200909012246.37553.zimmermann@vdm-design.de> <8b48b1570909020834p637f436ehfbf86ad021a44eb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251906562.8800.0.camel@razor> > If you're doing a fix party, could I send my FR to one of you so it > gets fixed too? I'd also want the buzz-fix, would it be a big > inconvenience? I'd be really grateful. > > Michal me too? bernhard (austria) From michael-tansella at gmx.de Wed Sep 2 17:50:50 2009 From: michael-tansella at gmx.de (Michael Tansella) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:50:50 +0200 Subject: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook Message-ID: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Hi, How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from A: Freerunner GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that sends for example coordinates to B: Linux Notebook GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that processes the received Data immediately I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP but how can I get a "global" accessable IP address. Does there already exist any tool that can do this? Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to start? Greets Michael From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:02:30 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:02:30 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:36 PM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > ?Let me first thank you for taking the time to suggest improvements to this > part of intone. I was getting the feeling that maybe people hardly used > these features - particularly the lyrics view. No problem. I was always dreaming of a device what can do proper lyrics and a dictionary app. So the lyrics is there I only need to write a dict app;-) > ?Well, that is a limitation. I was working on the concept that the songs > would be organised in directories by album - so the cover art would remain > the same for all songs in a directory. I asked you some time back (about a month) how to do flashcard type reading. It was suggested that I should put a .jpg file for the musics.... In that usecase (when I have 100-200 .mp3s) its really cumbersome to put each file its own directory. > ?For a directory filled with mixed songs - I will need to get the album > name from the tags (if the file is tagged) and then look for the album art > in some predefined directory based on the tag. Seemed like a lot of work to > do at that time :-) No, its too complicated. I would like to see an implementation like this: Search for a .jpg identical to the filename. If it fails search for cover.jpg, if it fails display the default head icon. It is dead simple and would cover all usecases. If somebody want an album support, then put the effort and separate his mp3 files into different dir. > ?I'll try and do something like the above when I find some free time. Please implement the more simple approach. > ?That it is. Unfortunately, hidden widgets in elementary still occupy > space. Hence I need to delete them, and then add them again when needed. If > you find a better way - do let me know. > ?I can read the next file into a large buffer and copy from there on song > change. But that might play up with the memory. I'll try that and see how it > goes. Ok, as elementary widgets are evas object anyway, they are placed in layers on evas canvas. By default every elementary widget is placed to layer 0. You only need to place the same sized entry widget on top of the existing one. And show/hide only means you manipulate the layering. In python it would something like this: en = elementary.Entry(win) en2 = elementary.Entry(win) layer = en.layer_get() layer2 = en.layer_get() #place en2 on top of en: en2.layer_set(1) en.layer_set(0) #place en on top of en2: en2.layer_set(0) en.layer_set(1) To make a second textbox look like the first one, you should set its properties (x,y, width, height) the same what the other Entry has. Functions: x,y = en.pos_get() en2.pos_set(x,y) width, height = en.size_get() en2.size_set(width, height) Hope it helps something. >> 2. Entry does not wrap lines >> 3. Entry does not scroll at the beginning when it loads a new entry text >> 4. The scrollbar is disabled >> 5. Disable horizontal scrolling >> > ?Done. Try the attached binary below. Thank you! I will try it this evening. > ?Well, I like the idea and am willing to implement it. Only - are there > lyrics files available in the subtitle formats? And which format do I > support? I can use either the .srt/.sub/mplayer formats. > ?Thanks for the suggestions and ideas though. To say the true, we should look for subtitle for a release, because it can has offset, or wrong framerate. So I think most of the times (random music with third party subtitle file) we want to adjust the subtitle file anyway. So I would propose to have a minimal timing gui for it. You display one line at a time, and when I tap on the screen, it autofills the timing in the file. It would work most of the time. For format selection: No matter what you choose (.srt/.sub/mplayer), because we can convert them to each other. If I were you I would prefer .srt file format, because it is time based (and not frame based). For additional info please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubRip With this my needs would suffice. However I dont know if it would be enough to proper karaoke support. For karaoke we need to highlight *part of the actual word*, ie. some chars from the line. Yes we can implement it via some custom way (using semi html markup and display the same line many times highlighting other part of the line). But maybe a proper karaoke fileformat would be needed. I think the best would be matroska fileformat: http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/subtitles/ssa.html It can do many advanced thing, including highlight the part of the word. But it is a *HUGE* work, so I think we should implement subrip first, and gather some experience, and tackle the more advanced usecase (ie. karaoke) next. Many thanks for your positive comments by the way! Best regards, Laszlo From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Wed Sep 2 18:05:02 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:05:02 +0200 Subject: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook In-Reply-To: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4A9E97AE.3010502@wollishausen.de> Michael Tansella schrieb: > Hi, > > How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from > > A: > Freerunner > GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) > Qt program that sends for example coordinates > > to > > B: > Linux Notebook > GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) > Qt program that processes the received Data immediately > > I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP > but how can I get a "global" accessable IP address. > Does there already exist any tool that can do this? > Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much > about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to > i recommend you to use openvpn. i am doing this on my fr with no problems at all. -- Matzehuber From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:10:45 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:10:45 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > Ok, as elementary widgets are evas object anyway, they are placed in > layers on evas canvas. ... > Hope it helps something. If you have troubles, I can cook up a simple elementary python app for demoing it. Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:24:21 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:24:21 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: > So I would propose to have a minimal timing gui for it. > > You display one line at a time, and when I tap on the screen, it > autofills the timing in the file. It would work most of the time. If you like this idea, I have more to share. As I have done many subtitle editing in the past using mplayer (mpsub format) and a simple text editor, I have a pretty good workflow what could be implemented. Rule of thumb: The minimal interval is 100ms (ie. 0.1s), if you work with more precise timings, nobody will notice it. 1. stage: Rough timing We just copy&paste the lyrics to a .txt file and have the .mp3 file. Workflow: Intone displays each line one by one. There is a button, when we push it, it saves the timing with the line. There is an another (non-obligatory) button to mark the time when the subtitle needs to be hided. If we dont push it, it will hide the current line 100 ms before the next line appears. 2. stage: fine tuning We want to finetune the displaying. So some ms on and of. Workflow: Intone displays each line one by one. There is two buttons: +100ms, -100ms When we here the sound the the line is not displayed in synchrone we adjust it via this button. Also forward 2sec reverse 2sec button would be helpful. (to hear the line repeatably). With the above worklow we could adjust the subtitle to a music within 10 min I think. And when you are on a party, you can do it without a computer+! So would be rather excellent.... There is an another (insane) idea: I just played with nintendo ds for 10-20 min. And the music player is awesome what it has. You can apply effects to the music, and it distorts the sounds. There is one effect called karaoke, which try to silent the voice in the music. So would be excellent for adhoc karaoke plaing. No need to find the special version of the music file, which was recorded without the singer voice. Dunno how it could be implemented at all, just an idea. Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:29:52 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:29:52 +0200 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > Because it's designed in such a way that mainline would never be interested in adopting it, which is how I like it. I think in Solaris the sheduler are pluggable. Ie, it can be swapped. In linux its hardwired, and there is no will to change it. Best regards, Laszlo From meumeu1402 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:36:16 2009 From: meumeu1402 at gmail.com (Christophe M) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:36:16 +0200 Subject: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook In-Reply-To: <4A9E97AE.3010502@wollishausen.de> References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> <4A9E97AE.3010502@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: That's a simple/client server communication ...You will just have to open a port on the server side nat to route it to your server ( even if you use openvpn, ssh, ... you'll have to do it ) A second solution, if you can't translate a port in the nat is using a third computer reachable from anywhere wich "organise" the transfer, both freerunner connect at this third machine as client and the machine make the transmition. Protocol is at you convenience, making a client/server in Qt4 isn't difficult and is well documented ( if you need help, you can contact me ) 2009/9/2 Matthias Huber > Michael Tansella schrieb: > > Hi, > > > > How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) > from > > > > A: > > Freerunner > > GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) > > Qt program that sends for example coordinates > > > > to > > > > B: > > Linux Notebook > > GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) > > Qt program that processes the received Data immediately > > > > I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP > > but how can I get a "global" accessable IP address. > > Does there already exist any tool that can do this? > > Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know > much > > about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, > how to > > > > i recommend you to use openvpn. i am doing this on my fr with no > problems at all. > > > -- > Matzehuber > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- ------------------------------ Qalee website : http://www.qalee.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/ed99066a/attachment-0001.htm From rixed at happyleptic.org Wed Sep 2 18:40:02 2009 From: rixed at happyleptic.org (rixed at happyleptic.org) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:40:02 +0200 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <416e897e0909010243m589702b7m36381951840acabc@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> <416e897e0909010243m589702b7m36381951840acabc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090902164001.GA3648@happyleptic.org> > Anyway, if you don't plan update update the drvier, you need not care it. If you don't plan to use anything else than what's already provided, then any phone will do. If you want, for instance, to use Debian on this particular computer we call a "phone" then anything but an openmoko is worthless. From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:39:25 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:39:25 +0200 Subject: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook In-Reply-To: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: <359c5480909020939w53854290o34ac8e32d384234c@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Michael Tansella wrote: > Hi, > > How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from > > A: > Freerunner > GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) > Qt program that sends for example coordinates > > to > > B: > Linux Notebook > GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) > Qt program that processes the received Data immediately > > I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP > but how can I get a "global" accessable IP address. > Does there already exist any tool that can do this? > Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much > about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to > start? If you should rely on a public ip address where the two phones will connect, for my personal tasks I use my DSL dynamic ip and dyndns + openvpn. If you do not have one, you should use some trick to encapsulate your protocol in some way, limited only by fantasy. You may use an IRC channel, some sort of p2p network, a shared email account, a webform on public php hosting site, and so on! Nicola From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:42:20 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:42:20 +0200 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251817259447-3561080.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM, c_c wrote: >> ?Could you point me towards some examples on how to do this? > > "A lesson in colours..." > http://edjy.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/a-lesso-in-colours/ Here is a ready-made .edc file just about your question: http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Embryo/Examples/RandomColor Color classes can be changed from C/python program too, not necessary to use embryo. But its more elegant;) Best regards, Laszlo From vikas.saurabh at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:44:08 2009 From: vikas.saurabh at gmail.com (Vikas Saurabh) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:14:08 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1251893063.5593.233.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <1251828084.5593.222.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909011446h64e9b2ve12518f712e4ba75@mail.gmail.com> <1251879857.5593.226.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690909020144k4a82a89am520c286a0547d848@mail.gmail.com> <1251892634.5593.230.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1251893063.5593.233.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Message-ID: <1cc7690909020944w3aae7a68te3a97e101dc463fe@mail.gmail.com> > If so, i would change text on CU from: > "IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers on Apr 20th" > to: > "On Apr 20th, IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers. > Exact date of buzz fix is not known yet..." I copied your text and have updated the text :) From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 18:47:07 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:47:07 +0200 Subject: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook In-Reply-To: <359c5480909020939w53854290o34ac8e32d384234c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> <359c5480909020939w53854290o34ac8e32d384234c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Nicola Mfb wrote: >a webform on public php hosting site, and so on! That is the easiest. Laszlo From vikas.saurabh at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 19:01:12 2009 From: vikas.saurabh at gmail.com (Vikas Saurabh) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:31:12 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <4A9E33F7.3050500@gmail.com> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> <4A9E33F7.3050500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1cc7690909021001q31e90e01if495919eb66783c1@mail.gmail.com> > Let me know if you need any help. I think right now we have to figure out how to get FRs here. As of now, Chaitanya is in Payyannur(Kerala) and it might not be easy for him to send in his FR. He said that he would be here (Delhi) around Diwali, so that might be a good time to have the buzz fix party (... at chaitanya: can you be elaborate about the dates, as I was planning to go to my place during diwali :(. For the bangalore guys, Alok had researched quite a bit about how to send in the phones (http://www.mail-archive.com/community at lists.openmoko.org/msg51201.html). I guess Shashank would like to send in the phone alongwith Alok. @Ganesh: If your friend can do the buzz fix, then #1024 would be trivial for him and I myself am not sure about the bass fix. The mail thread would keep all of updated anyways. BTW, I guess Bangalore guys would need to get in touch with Zoheb to get the invoice and stuff that Shashank had mentioned. @Rakshat: Does Zoheb follow this list or should we CC him explicitly when some relevant mail/decision is sent/reached? --Vikas From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 19:12:24 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:12:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251911544862-3568093.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > In that usecase (when I have 100-200 .mp3s) its really cumbersome to > put each file its own directory. > Thats true - though a shell script might help. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > No, its too complicated. I would like to see an implementation like this: > Search for a .jpg identical to the filename. If it fails search for > cover.jpg, if it fails display the default head icon. > Done. Try this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3568093/intone intone Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Ok, as elementary widgets are evas object anyway, they are placed in > layers on evas canvas. > > By default every elementary widget is placed to layer 0. You only need > to place the same sized entry widget on top of the existing one. > And show/hide only means you manipulate the layering. > > Yup. That certainly does. Let me experiment a bit before I implement something. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > So I would propose to have a minimal timing gui for it... > Ok. This a reasonable amount of work - so let me find some time before I start on this. And I will need to read up on the formats too. Thanks for all the inputs. Particularly, the layers thingy. I was always a little unsure about that. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3568093.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From uzi18 at o2.pl Wed Sep 2 19:18:13 2009 From: uzi18 at o2.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Bart.?=) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:18:13 +0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_TCP_connection_over_GPRS_between_Openmoko_and_Notebook?= In-Reply-To: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: <6e8bd3dd.3b702a87.4a9ea8d5.6c0fc@o2.pl> Dnia 2 wrze?nia 2009 17:50 Michael Tansella napisa?(a): > Hi, > > How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from > > A: > Freerunner > GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) > Qt program that sends for example coordinates > > to > > B: > Linux Notebook > GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) > Qt program that processes the received Data immediately > > I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP > but how can I get a "global" accessable IP address. > Does there already exist any tool that can do this? > Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much > about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to > start? > > Greets > Michael You could prepare www site with restricted area just for your data or just remote database :) to connect to ;) I think it could be even nopaste/paste-bin site if data are not valuable ;) Bartek From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 2 19:18:06 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:18:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1251911544862-3568093.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251911544862-3568093.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1251911886239-3568135.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Well, it seems like the ipk installed from shr repos has 2 errors that I can see. 1. It does not pull in the no-album-art.jpg file into /usr/share/intone/ directory. The jpg file is in the resources folder on the svn. 2. There is a directory called glade in /usr/share/intone/. That's not required and dates back from when Intone started off being a GTK app. Hopefully, this should attract the attention of the repo maintainer. Or maybe someone can tell me who to contact. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3568135.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rusolis at poczta.fm Wed Sep 2 19:30:34 2009 From: rusolis at poczta.fm (Michal Brzozowski) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:30:34 +0200 Subject: FSO can't answer incoming call Message-ID: <8b48b1570909021030u260794a3ie1a2f689dc1c5aae@mail.gmail.com> Hi, There's an issue I have with fso for about a month already. About every 1 in 10 calls I receive, I can't answer. I hit the answer button, but nothing happens. Litephone tells me the call is active, but the phone keeps ringing. I've just upgraded frameworkd to the newest (shr-unstable), and it has changed a little bit. Now the phone stops ringing immediately, but it keeps vibrating. I'm not sure if the other side sees the call as active. There's a minor chance that it's Litephone's fault, but the fact that the phone stops ringing means that the 'Activate' message makes it to ogsmd. There are no errors from dbus after 'Activate'. I don't know if this is a known issue, but it's easy to notice if you use thr FR every day. And it has been around for a long time. If no one has ever seen this, I'll open a ticket and supply logs. Michal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/bbc2d2f4/attachment-0001.htm From daniel.l.staley at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 19:43:19 2009 From: daniel.l.staley at gmail.com (Dan Staley) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:43:19 -0400 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:10 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > vendion wrote: > > > > With that I was able to access contacts, which are acting weird > > > Can you open a terminal and try the following commands? > 1. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts > org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contacts.Query {} > > This will return something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 > > 2. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd > /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/Queries/1 > org.freesmartphone.PIM.ContactQuery.GetMultipleResults 5 > > 3. This should print out your contacts as returned by opim. Can you send me > the output of your final command and the /home/root/.launcher/launcher.db > file? > Thanks. > > vendion wrote: > > > > I was also able to almost use the SMS application, crashed when I hit the > > "Reply" button. > > Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidBackend - This backend does not > > feature add_message > > Segmentation fault > > > You need to change the message domain to sqlite-messages to use the opimd > services. Please do that and retry. > In fact try it with this binary. > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566595/launcher launcher This has a couple of > fixes to prevent segfaults on some conditions like this. > Thanks. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3566595.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I'm also getting some weird behavior with the binary you listed above. 1.) Whenever I attempt to send an SMS, Launcher segfaults. Running from the command line, I don't get any info when it actually segfaults...just a segfault. 2.) All of the calls in the call log are shown twice with the same timestamp 3.) I still dont get any cell broadcast info (but this isnt a big deal to me. I assume the towers here just don't broadcast anything of interest) 4.) When "jumping" in the contacts list, Launcher seems to jump to the wrong location. When I click a letter it jumps to a completely different area in the list of contacts. Suggestion: 1.) Scrolling through the contact list is very hard. This would be alleviated alot by not allowing the user to click on the contact. (Like in the default SHR-contacts) Just have a separate button for opening up the options for the selected contact. I keep opening up contacts that I dont want to while scrolling. Also possibly take out the Head picture on each contact? That might also improve scrolling. 2.) When creating a message, have the place where text is going to be input already selected. When trying to select the text box to type, it is very close to the send button and hard to click. Thanks for all the hard work c_c! -Dan Staley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In every normal distro it's supported by default! -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 19:59:22 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:59:22 +0200 Subject: [SHR] Setting regional codes In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770908310125q563fe83bnc178343e9acc17eb@mail.gmail.com> <2f3aa2770909010137q61d2d2e6sded2d252bfcdb5df@mail.gmail.com> <20090901235230.GC4110@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: On 9/2/09, Christ van Willegen wrote: > I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now > regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me... What do you mean? Current implementation is full and with correct configuration supports every kind of number format (maybe except numbers with pauses and waits to send DTMF when call establishes, but i don't think support of that is necessary for contact resolving :P) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From undrwater at verizon.net Wed Sep 2 20:13:02 2009 From: undrwater at verizon.net (undrwater) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:13:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: QtMoko images V8 In-Reply-To: <68e19611.4f1bb583.4a9d9050.7c31a@o2.pl> References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> <1251439775617-3532785.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251443220.6424.1.camel@rp-skunk> <2bb72a1.82d1b6f.4a97a9b7.5f084@o2.pl> <1251838726322-3563015.post@n2.nabble.com> <68e19611.4f1bb583.4a9d9050.7c31a@o2.pl> Message-ID: <1251915182693-3568511.post@n2.nabble.com> Bart?omiej Zimo? wrote: > > > Thats right ! sorry it's /etc/init.d/qpe ;) > > Bartek > > Here's the contents of /etc/init.d/qpe > #!/bin/sh > echo '1' > /proc/sys/kernel/printk > rm -rf /var/run/ppp > mkdir /var/run/ppp > mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial > echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on > . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env > atd /var/spool/at > qx_helper & > qpe 2>&1 | logger -t 'Qtopia' & > 2nd reboot enabled the Bluetooth BTW. I'll test, but does this allow audio over GSM? Other problems / question / comments: * Speakerphone does not work (or maybe it's too silent?) * I like the quick contacts search thingy, but the side bar is too narrow. * Pictures - can't browse for picture directories or individual pics for Homescreen (used to be able to do this) * Calendar - wishing for a week view, and eventually some kind of sync with (everything?) * Keyboard - I'm not sure I like the keyboard replacement - but maybe I just need to get used to it Anyway, this feels much better than Qtopia or QTExtended ever did. Plus we get X! Russell Dwiggins -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-images-V8-tp3530825p3568511.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 20:13:13 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:13:13 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/2/09, Leonti Bielski wrote: > So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? > For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses > some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then > obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. > > Leonti > > Leonti > > On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg wrote: >> Hello Risto, >> >> Here is a few facts from such FAQ: >> >> Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the >> 'untrusted ones') >> >> One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID >> provides a complete access to the data and the measures. >> >> OpenCellId added a "CVS uploader" to import bulk CSV data files >> mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have >> any OpenMoko phone to test it. >> >> I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not >> involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and >> others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration >> effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the >> data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to >> support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. >> Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an >> integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate >> them. >> Regards, >> >> 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa : >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra >>> wrote: >>>> How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? >>> >>> I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in >>> FAQ's >>> :) >>> >>> CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html >>> and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) >>> OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: >>> http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) >>> OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: >>> http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download >>> >>> * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from >>> other projects. >>> >>> AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each >>> other) on collecting cells as OpenBmap&OpenCellID - well, you just >>> collect the cells. >>> AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects >>> AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important >>> data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. >>> >>> To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. >>> Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to >>> find the position of a phone, right? >>> >>> 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj >>> cellhunter cells? >>> 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet >>> 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner >>> >>> I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just >>> easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of >>> these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of >>> Open Source. Can't really see it here. >>> >>> r When I tried Cellhunter (in early stage of its development), it didn't feel so bullet-proof and stable, and I noticed I was collecting points for invalid data which happened sometimes. And when moving, clicking "update" constanly was giving me always 1 point more, and offline mode wasn't so usable, so I had to colllect cells during GPRS connection, which wasn't so stable these days. Maybe it changed now (well, i would be supriced if it didn't :P), but openBmap client, data and website just feel better, and most of important FSO and SHR devs are using openBmap to collect cells - that's good enough recomendation to me ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 20:28:40 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:28:40 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 9/2/09, c_c wrote: >> 6. Although not only lyrics related, but it seems, when I change back >> to the list view, you regenerate the elementary.List. >> > That it is. Unfortunately, hidden widgets in elementary still occupy > space. Hence I need to delete them, and then add them again when needed. If > you find a better way - do let me know. Just use elementary Pager! It's designed for things like that ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 20:30:50 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:30:50 +0200 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251817259447-3561080.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 9/1/09, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sebastian > Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> Look for elm_theme_overlay_add and elm_theme_extension_add. Adding >> overlay should work just like changing theme. > > Is it not slower than replacing the default theme? (ie. it displays > the default theme > elements, and this theme the top of it). > Just guessing here .... > > Laszlo I don't think so, as that's exactly what elementary does when "normal" theming - it uses selected theme, but when something isn't in selected theme - it fallbacks to default. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 20:33:08 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:33:08 +0200 Subject: FSO can't answer incoming call In-Reply-To: <8b48b1570909021030u260794a3ie1a2f689dc1c5aae@mail.gmail.com> References: <8b48b1570909021030u260794a3ie1a2f689dc1c5aae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/2/09, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > Hi, > > There's an issue I have with fso for about a month already. About every 1 in > 10 calls I receive, I can't answer. I hit the answer button, but nothing > happens. Litephone tells me the call is active, but the phone keeps ringing. > I've just upgraded frameworkd to the newest (shr-unstable), and it has > changed a little bit. Now the phone stops ringing immediately, but it keeps > vibrating. I'm not sure if the other side sees the call as active. > > There's a minor chance that it's Litephone's fault, but the fact that the > phone stops ringing means that the 'Activate' message makes it to ogsmd. > There are no errors from dbus after 'Activate'. > > I don't know if this is a known issue, but it's easy to notice if you use > thr FR every day. And it has been around for a long time. If no one has ever > seen this, I'll open a ticket and supply logs. > > Michal > Are you using fsousaged instead of ousaged? -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 20:37:32 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:37:32 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1251911544862-3568093.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251911544862-3568093.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:12 PM, c_c wrote: > ?Done. Try this binary. ?http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3568093/intone intone What is the proper name of the file? opkg returns with this error: root at om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install intone-20090902.opk opkg: invalid magic Best regards, Laszlo From rusolis at poczta.fm Wed Sep 2 20:38:36 2009 From: rusolis at poczta.fm (Michal Brzozowski) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:38:36 +0200 Subject: FSO can't answer incoming call In-Reply-To: References: <8b48b1570909021030u260794a3ie1a2f689dc1c5aae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8b48b1570909021138n2b088988w125258929513de60@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/2 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > On 9/2/09, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There's an issue I have with fso for about a month already. About every 1 > in > > 10 calls I receive, I can't answer. I hit the answer button, but nothing > > happens. Litephone tells me the call is active, but the phone keeps > ringing. > > I've just upgraded frameworkd to the newest (shr-unstable), and it has > > changed a little bit. Now the phone stops ringing immediately, but it > keeps > > vibrating. I'm not sure if the other side sees the call as active. > > > > There's a minor chance that it's Litephone's fault, but the fact that the > > phone stops ringing means that the 'Activate' message makes it to ogsmd. > > There are no errors from dbus after 'Activate'. > > > > I don't know if this is a known issue, but it's easy to notice if you use > > thr FR every day. And it has been around for a long time. If no one has > ever > > seen this, I'll open a ticket and supply logs. > > > > Michal > > > > Are you using fsousaged instead of ousaged? > ps -A suggests I'm using fsousaged. I've never changed any settings so it's the default I guess. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/2a205a86/attachment.htm From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 20:40:19 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:40:19 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251911544862-3568093.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:12 PM, c_c wrote: >> ?Done. Try this binary. ?http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3568093/intone intone > > What is the proper name of the file? > opkg returns with this error: > > root at om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install intone-20090902.opk > opkg: invalid magic > root at om-gta02 ~ $ md5sum intone* 30cf41150e85442040356553cdda4efe intone Is it correct? From hans at everlasting.be Wed Sep 2 20:59:34 2009 From: hans at everlasting.be (Hans Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:59:34 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4A9EC096.5000302@everlasting.be> D. Fett wrote: > "Notify the community mailing list." > (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications) > > Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux has all important features to make your > geocaching life easier: > > - download geocaches for offline use with full text, hints & images on your > freerunner > - map view with icons for nearby geocaches (uses openstreetmaps and tangogps > map directory, downloades missing tiles automatically) > - search the internal database for geocaches by name or type > - target selection: selected geocache, one of its waypoints or manual input > > more at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html Testing the latest version 0.1.2: - I do not seem to get a GPS fix (other GPS applications do get a fix) - I try do download caches, the console does show some caches are downloaded (I recognize names from the neighbourhood) but they are not shown on the map. Hans From list-openmoko at omoco.de Wed Sep 2 21:02:37 2009 From: list-openmoko at omoco.de (Sebastian Hammerl) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:02:37 +0200 Subject: CellHunter is moving to a new server In-Reply-To: <20090901234743.GB4110@roque.1407.org> References: <4A9D9912.2080301@omoco.de> <20090901234743.GB4110@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <4A9EC14D.1080804@omoco.de> So,. everything should be fine now, please visit http://cellhunter.omoco.de for the new version and report any bugs you find. Greetings, Sebastian ps: no deb package yet but will come From michael-tansella at gmx.de Wed Sep 2 21:51:42 2009 From: michael-tansella at gmx.de (Michael Tansella) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:51:42 +0200 Subject: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook In-Reply-To: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200909022151.42624.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Thank you all!!! I see there are many possibilities. I'll try it with an OpenVPN Server where the 2 Clients connect to. I Hope latency will be small enough. All the best Michael From fercerpav at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 22:23:08 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:23:08 +0400 Subject: Reliably connect tcp between to NATed hosts (was: Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook) In-Reply-To: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> (Michael Tansella's message of "Wed\, 2 Sep 2009 17\:50\:50 +0200") References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: Michael Tansella writes: > How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from You can consider using "miredo" techonology. That way you don't have to maintain a special publically accessible server yourself. It basically gives you dynamic ipv6 address you can reach from anywhere. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 2 23:58:36 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:58:36 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251911544862-3568093.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > root at om-gta02 ~ $ md5sum intone* > 30cf41150e85442040356553cdda4efe ?intone > > Is it correct? Sure not. As ipk files are packed with 'ar' just like .deb files do, I can extract them using: ar x packagename.ipk However ar command on the above links fail. And I tried another nabble link, and it failed too. Could you please upload the package to a *reliable* webpage? I usually use googlepages.com, however they dont accept new subscription anymore. Best regards, Laszlo From risto at kurppa.fi Thu Sep 3 00:03:19 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:03:19 +0300 Subject: german "fixing the #1024" bug party In-Reply-To: <1251906562.8800.0.camel@razor> References: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> <4A9D8531.1060707@gmx.net> <200909012246.37553.zimmermann@vdm-design.de> <8b48b1570909020834p637f436ehfbf86ad021a44eb5@mail.gmail.com> <1251906562.8800.0.camel@razor> Message-ID: Possibly interested too.. / Finland.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 00:08:30 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:08:30 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251902205292-3567145.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251911544862-3568093.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Laszlo > KREKACS wrote: >> root at om-gta02 ~ $ md5sum intone* >> 30cf41150e85442040356553cdda4efe ?intone >> >> Is it correct? Doh! You are just uploading the 'intone' binary... You should warn about it at least ... root at om-gta02 ~ $ opkg files intone Package intone (0.66+svnr53-r0) is installed on root and has the following files: /usr/share/intone/no-shuffle.png /usr/share/intone/no-random.png /usr/share/icons/intone.png /usr/share/intone/no-bluetooth.png /usr/share/intone/user-home.png /usr/share/intone/shuffle.png /usr/share/intone/settings.png /usr/share/intone/pause.png /usr/share/intone/seek-back.png /usr/share/intone/lyrics_view.png /usr/share/intone/record.png /usr/share/intone/album.png /usr/share/intone/prev.png /usr/share/intone/song.png /usr/share/intone/random.png /usr/share/intone/next.png /usr/bin/intone /usr/share/applications/intone.desktop /usr/share/intone/album_view.png /usr/share/intone/generic.png /usr/share/intone/playlist.png /usr/share/intone/repeat.png /usr/share/intone/playlist_view.png /usr/share/intone/play.png /usr/share/intone/glade/intone.glade /usr/share/intone/no-repeat.png /usr/share/intone/folder.png /usr/share/intone/seek-fwd.png /usr/share/intone/bluetooth.png But anyway, thank you very much! Best regards, Laszlo From risto at kurppa.fi Thu Sep 3 00:19:17 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:19:17 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: About the amount of cells, could someone explain me how many cells (with some kind of location information) cellhunter knows: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/images/cellhunter_statistic_all.png explained here: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/?hideintro=1&orderby=&beginat= 7milj (don't know where I got it from.. sorry for misleading..) is the number of ALL submits but to me it looks like that the no of cells is around 141371 (NCG) + 7572 (OCnG) = 148 943 cells. The rest are just more gps information for a single cell. Am I wrong? So to recap: OpenBMap: 479740 cells (of which 82963 are 'trusted') OpenCellID: 433574 cells CellHunter: 148 943 cells r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From t.landspurg at 8motions.com Thu Sep 3 00:28:45 2009 From: t.landspurg at 8motions.com (Thomas Landspurg) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:28:45 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> Again , and clarifiacation: ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) OpenCellID: 433 574 cells CellHunter: 148 943 cells OpenBMap: 82 963 cells (sorry for talking the risk of being the 'bad' guy agin, but at the end that's a little bit annoying) I would be fine also to reintegrate cells from CellsHunter into OpenCellID too > 2009/9/3 Risto H. Kurppa : > About the amount of cells, could someone explain me how many cells > (with some kind of location information) cellhunter knows: > > http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/images/cellhunter_statistic_all.png > explained here: > http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/?hideintro=1&orderby=&beginat= > > 7milj (don't know where I got it from.. sorry for misleading..) is the > number of ALL submits but to me it looks like that the no of cells is > around 141371 (NCG) + 7572 (OCnG) = 148 943 cells. The rest are just > more gps information for a single cell. Am I wrong? > > So to recap: > OpenBMap: 479740 cells (of which 82963 are 'trusted') > OpenCellID: 433574 cells > CellHunter: 148 943 cells > > r > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org From mckeea at rpi.edu Thu Sep 3 00:41:28 2009 From: mckeea at rpi.edu (Tony McKeehan) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:41:28 -0400 Subject: Community Updates 02-09-09 Message-ID: <4A9EF498.9000402@rpi.edu> Hello, everyone, I've sent out the release to the new community updates page and you can read it here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-09-02 Also, if you are aware of any updates/news by 16-09-09 you can notify the community by reflecting the changes on the following page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-16 -Tonym From daniel.l.staley at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 00:59:23 2009 From: daniel.l.staley at gmail.com (Dan Staley) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:59:23 -0400 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <4A9EC096.5000302@everlasting.be> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <4A9EC096.5000302@everlasting.be> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Hans Zimmerman wrote: > D. Fett wrote: > > "Notify the community mailing list." > > (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications) > > > > Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux has all important features to make > your > > geocaching life easier: > > > > - download geocaches for offline use with full text, hints & images on > your > > freerunner > > - map view with icons for nearby geocaches (uses openstreetmaps and > tangogps > > map directory, downloades missing tiles automatically) > > - search the internal database for geocaches by name or type > > - target selection: selected geocache, one of its waypoints or manual > input > > > > more at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html > > Testing the latest version 0.1.2: > - I do not seem to get a GPS fix (other GPS applications do get a fix) > - I try do download caches, the console does show some caches are > downloaded (I recognize names from the neighbourhood) but they are not > shown on the map. > > > Hans > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I have the same problem...latest version never gets a GPS fix. It sees the satellites fine...but keeps displaying "no GPS fix" =( -Dan Staley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/f33efd41/attachment.htm From robin.paulson at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 01:22:37 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:22:37 +1200 Subject: problems with intone In-Reply-To: <1251899410035-3566692.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010314l590f995fi2934c38bb2cc8e64@mail.gmail.com> <1251815888509-3560927.post@n2.nabble.com> <2f3aa2770909020215s189e4309rd7f6c80a0a716bf3@mail.gmail.com> <1251899410035-3566692.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909021622o76e885a9g26691ad92e8b0b9d@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/3 c_c : > ?Well, that could be an issue with the song file. Can you fsck your > filesystem containing the audio files. right, done that. whoops, it had been mounted 414 times without a check > ?Yup. Thats another bug fixed - stopping the scan is a problem as of now. > Will work on it later. Can you try the attached binary from the terminal? It > will print out names of the files it is adding. Maybe that can give some > clue as to why it hangs. > Thanks > > ?http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566692/intone intone it still hangs at the same track: i found which, but there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with it - it plays fine on my desktop via mplayer an associated problem is when i play some files. i hit play, and the system hangs. the only way to kill intone is by holding down the power button. when i do this, after the x server has shutdown, there are hundreds of lines of text streaming by, too fast to read when i reboot, the same files will play just fine though From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 01:33:37 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:33:37 +0200 Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: <1251903744830-3567362.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251903744830-3567362.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: > Already done in the binary posted on the other list. Can you post back > after trying? Symlinks: It seems to work. However entering into a symlink directory it displays the files fine, but flashes three times. Lyrics: Simply awesome. It is much more usable. Really thank you. Im waiting to this layer stuff (or pager, if you like it more) to try it out! And also the simple lyrics editor!;-P Artcover: There is some minor problem with it. It loads the image at a smaller size, and it resize it to the original size, resulting a massive blur on it. Screenshots: http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/intone.png Original art: http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/rolling_stones_no_satisfaction.jpg Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 01:35:17 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:35:17 +0200 Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251903744830-3567362.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > Artcover: > There is some minor problem with it. > It loads the image at a smaller size, and it resize it to the > original size, resulting a massive blur on it. > "Try with img.smoot_set(1/0) and see if it changes" Could you please try out the above suggestion? Best regards, Laszlo From Quakeman1 at gmx.net Thu Sep 3 02:24:19 2009 From: Quakeman1 at gmx.net (Fox Mulder) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:24:19 +0200 Subject: german "fixing the #1024" bug party In-Reply-To: <1251906562.8800.0.camel@razor> References: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> <4A9D8531.1060707@gmx.net> <200909012246.37553.zimmermann@vdm-design.de> <8b48b1570909020834p637f436ehfbf86ad021a44eb5@mail.gmail.com> <1251906562.8800.0.camel@razor> Message-ID: <4A9F0CB3.9010603@gmx.net> Bernhard Reiter wrote: >> If you're doing a fix party, could I send my FR to one of you so it >> gets fixed too? I'd also want the buzz-fix, would it be a big >> inconvenience? I'd be really grateful. >> >> Michal > > me too? > > bernhard > (austria) I could do the buzz-fix for you but the problem is that i'm in no way related to openmoko and therefore can not guarantee a replacement for any possible damage which may happens in the process. The process itself isn't very complicated but who knows... So if i do the buzz-fix than only without warranty. ;) But if there is no official openmoko member who is willing to do the buzz-fix in germany i could do it. Ciao, Rainer From daniel.l.staley at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 05:21:10 2009 From: daniel.l.staley at gmail.com (Dan Staley) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:21:10 -0400 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <4A9EC096.5000302@everlasting.be> Message-ID: Nevermind....I reverted to my backup from yesterday and everything works fine again now. I think today's opkg upgrade messed something up the gps being able to get a lock on my moko. Reverting fixed everything. Works great now! Thanks, -Dan Staley On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Dan Staley wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Hans Zimmerman wrote: > >> D. Fett wrote: >> > "Notify the community mailing list." >> > (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications) >> > >> > Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux has all important features to make >> your >> > geocaching life easier: >> > >> > - download geocaches for offline use with full text, hints & images on >> your >> > freerunner >> > - map view with icons for nearby geocaches (uses openstreetmaps and >> tangogps >> > map directory, downloades missing tiles automatically) >> > - search the internal database for geocaches by name or type >> > - target selection: selected geocache, one of its waypoints or manual >> input >> > >> > more at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html >> >> Testing the latest version 0.1.2: >> - I do not seem to get a GPS fix (other GPS applications do get a fix) >> - I try do download caches, the console does show some caches are >> downloaded (I recognize names from the neighbourhood) but they are not >> shown on the map. >> >> >> Hans >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community at lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > I have the same problem...latest version never gets a GPS fix. It sees the > satellites fine...but keeps displaying "no GPS fix" =( > > -Dan Staley > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090902/1462446a/attachment-0001.htm From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 05:43:50 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 05:43:50 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field Message-ID: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I just tried to transfer the addressbook from my Nokia N70 to opimd. As PISI does not support obex/syncml via bt I used msynctool to sync with Evolution. Finally I transfered the evolution vcf exported file on the freerunner and used PISI to sync it with opimd. The result was that only sim contacts have the phone field. I tested that with opimd gui, cli utils and litephone. However it's not an opimd problem as using PISI to sync the same vcf with google contacts results in the same problem. PISI is 0.4.5, shr is unstable lite 08/08 updated and upgraded before trying pisi. Here some lines from the vcf file: BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:3.0 UID:pas-id-4A9F1EF500000120 X-EVOLUTION-FILE-AS:XXXX\, XXXX FN:XXXX XXXX N:XXXX;XXXX;;; REV:20090627T221844Z TEL;TYPE=CELL:XXXXXXXXXX END:VCARD Regards Nicola From daniel.l.staley at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 06:38:49 2009 From: daniel.l.staley at gmail.com (Dan Staley) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:38:49 -0400 Subject: Community Updates 02-09-09 In-Reply-To: <4A9EF498.9000402@rpi.edu> References: <4A9EF498.9000402@rpi.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Tony McKeehan wrote: > Hello, everyone, I've sent out the release to the new community updates > page and you can read it here: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-09-02 > > > Also, if you are aware of any updates/news by 16-09-09 you can notify > the community by reflecting the changes on the following page: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-16 > > -Tonym > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Thanks for this as always! The community update is invaluable to keeping everyone informed! (I completely missed the mails about appraw and the new qalee page somehow!) Thanks! -Dan Staley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090903/d5a653a5/attachment.htm From risto at kurppa.fi Thu Sep 3 07:18:44 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:18:44 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Thomas Landspurg wrote: > ?Again , and clarifiacation: > > ?ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), > the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) Yes, I knew that OBM had imported from OCI but to me the only thing that matters is how many cells a service has to be used to calculate the locations of cells, no matter where's the data from. The more data a service has, the more reliable & usable it is for a user (if there were applications capable of using any of the services to do the location). So if all three services would sync their info daily/weekly with having some of their own extra fields I'd be happy as they all would benefit from each other and they all would have the same sources to do the locationing the only difference being the algorithms. Yes of course it'd be a waste of work to maintain three databases.. but isn't that the case now anyway? > ?I would be fine also to reintegrate cells from CellsHunter into OpenCellID too Is there something that stops you from doing so? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From risto at kurppa.fi Thu Sep 3 07:19:48 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:19:48 +0300 Subject: Community Updates 02-09-09 In-Reply-To: <4A9EF498.9000402@rpi.edu> References: <4A9EF498.9000402@rpi.edu> Message-ID: Wow, thank you tony for releasing and everyone else for adding the news! An easy way to know what's happened.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From cvwillegen at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 07:55:43 2009 From: cvwillegen at gmail.com (Christ van Willegen) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 07:55:43 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme In-Reply-To: References: <4A9E2E2E.7070903@kw.nl> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/2/09, Christ van Willegen wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Christ van >> Willegen wrote: >>> Yes, I know it can hurt ;-) >> >> It would also help if I'd read everything... since you've got no >> keyboard and no SSH, this is going to be difficult... > > Why not SSH? In every normal distro it's supported by default! 'pike' originally said: > plus, i can't ssh into the machine > at this point - probably something with > /etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change > that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too. So that would appear to be a big problem. Fortunately for him, it's solved... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 From Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl Thu Sep 3 08:54:38 2009 From: Patryk.Benderz at esp.pl (Patryk Benderz) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:54:38 +0200 Subject: Community Updates 02-09-09 In-Reply-To: <4A9EF498.9000402@rpi.edu> References: <4A9EF498.9000402@rpi.edu> Message-ID: <1251960878.23405.2.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> Dnia 2009-09-02, ?ro o godzinie 18:41 -0400, Tony McKeehan pisze: > Hello, everyone, I've sent out the release to the new community updates Thanks Tony, especially for keeping history of editions ;) -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From yorickmoko at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 09:35:23 2009 From: yorickmoko at gmail.com (Yorick Moko) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:35:23 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Thomas > Landspurg wrote: > > Again , and clarifiacation: > > > > ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), > > the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) > > Yes, I knew that OBM had imported from OCI but to me the only thing > that matters is how many cells a service has to be used to calculate > the locations of cells, no matter where's the data from. The more data > a service has, the more reliable & usable it is for a user (if there > were applications capable of using any of the services to do the > location). So if all three services would sync their info daily/weekly > with having some of their own extra fields I'd be happy as they all > would benefit from each other and they all would have the same sources > to do the locationing the only difference being the algorithms. Yes of > course it'd be a waste of work to maintain three databases.. but isn't > that the case now anyway? > > > I would be fine also to reintegrate cells from CellsHunter into > OpenCellID too > > Is there something that stops you from doing so? > > r > > this is how I see it, from an end-user point-of-view: openBmap has the most cells openBmap maps the most information all I want is as much cells as possible AND know that I'm logging everything that increases the quality of the data (AFAIK cellhunter logs less information) openBmap does the trick for both of them this is of course a personal opinion y -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090903/309e606c/attachment.htm From dscaini at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 09:47:12 2009 From: dscaini at gmail.com (Davide Scaini) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:47:12 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] no sound after resume Message-ID: <18db98c80909030047v31830481le50500a4c39baf92@mail.gmail.com> Hi guys, it has probably been discussed several times, but i cannot find the thread... As in the subject, i have no sound after resume, no call ring (but if i answer the phone i can hear and talk), no music... with both kernels 2.6.28-rc4 and 2.6.29-rc2 thanks in advance d -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090903/1fd94393/attachment.htm From risto at kurppa.fi Thu Sep 3 09:49:04 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:49:04 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Yorick Moko wrote: > this is how I see it, from an end-user point-of-view: > > openBmap has the most cells > openBmap maps the most information > > all I want is as much cells as possible > AND > know that I'm logging everything that increases the quality of the data > (AFAIK cellhunter logs less information) > > openBmap does the trick for both of them +1 (and I also know that onen/openBmap is working on software to do the location based on GPS cells) But if the projects want to co-operate and use same databases I'm thumbs up for it! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From mike at mikecrash.com Thu Sep 3 10:13:18 2009 From: mike at mikecrash.com (Mike Crash) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 03:13:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: eneolock screen locker Message-ID: <1251965598954-3571840.post@n2.nabble.com> If someone interested, I have created new screen locker inspired by ZedLock. More info and download here: http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=114 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/eneolock-screen-locker-tp3571840p3571840.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cvwillegen at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 10:14:27 2009 From: cvwillegen at gmail.com (Christ van Willegen) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:14:27 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] no sound after resume In-Reply-To: <18db98c80909030047v31830481le50500a4c39baf92@mail.gmail.com> References: <18db98c80909030047v31830481le50500a4c39baf92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Davide Scaini wrote: > Hi guys, > it has probably been discussed several times, but i cannot find the > thread... > As in the subject, i have no sound after resume, no call ring (but if i > answer the phone i can hear and talk), no music... Did you install Navit? If so: opkg -force-depends remove *speech* *pulse* HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 From risto at kurppa.fi Thu Sep 3 10:31:43 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:31:43 +0300 Subject: eneolock screen locker In-Reply-To: <1251965598954-3571840.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251965598954-3571840.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Looks nice and ha - you're (or someone's) fast, I planned to suggest you to add it to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-16 - but it's already there :) r On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Mike Crash wrote: > > If someone interested, I have created new screen locker inspired by ZedLock. > More info and download here: > > http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=114 > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/eneolock-screen-locker-tp3571840p3571840.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From nad.oby at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 10:33:26 2009 From: nad.oby at gmail.com (Evgeniy Ginzburg) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:33:26 +0400 Subject: eneolock screen locker In-Reply-To: <1251965598954-3571840.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251965598954-3571840.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4A9F7F56.4030900@gmail.com> On 03.09.2009 12:13, Mike Crash wrote: > > If someone interested, I have created new screen locker inspired by ZedLock. > More info and download here: > > http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&id=114 Added to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Update/Draft_2009-09-16#ENeoLock Regards, Evgeniy -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. From dscaini at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 10:40:59 2009 From: dscaini at gmail.com (Davide Scaini) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:40:59 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] no sound after resume In-Reply-To: References: <18db98c80909030047v31830481le50500a4c39baf92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18db98c80909030140h463bfa00x5f120b73b62b7de5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Christ van Willegen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Davide Scaini wrote: > > Hi guys, > > it has probably been discussed several times, but i cannot find the > > thread... > > As in the subject, i have no sound after resume, no call ring (but if i > > answer the phone i can hear and talk), no music... > > Did you install Navit? > > Of course! (but i cannot her the voice... :) ) If so: > opkg -force-depends remove *speech* *pulse* > > HTH! > and of course you're right! it works! thanks, i was really disappointed! it helped ;) ciao d > > Christ van Willegen > -- > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks for updating CU. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point From michael-tansella at gmx.de Thu Sep 3 10:50:39 2009 From: michael-tansella at gmx.de (Michael Tansella) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:50:39 +0200 Subject: Reliably connect tcp between to NATed hosts (was: Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook) In-Reply-To: References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200909031050.39168.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 22:23:08 schrieb Paul Fertser: > Michael Tansella writes: > > How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) > > from > > You can consider using "miredo" techonology. That way you don't have > to maintain a special publically accessible server yourself. It > basically gives you dynamic ipv6 address you can reach from anywhere. Thanks, sounds interesting. Did somebody successfully compile it? It configures successfull. It compiles very much and then I get the following error: generating symbol list for `libtun6.la' nm .libs/tun6.o .libs/diag.o ../compat/.libs/libcompat.a | | /bin/sed 's/.* //' | sort | uniq > .libs/libtun6.exp ../libtool: eval: line 1: syntax error: "|" unexpected make[2]: *** [libtun6.la] Error 2 It seems to be a libtool problem. Any idea? From fercerpav at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 11:05:09 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:05:09 +0400 Subject: Reliably connect tcp between to NATed hosts In-Reply-To: <200909031050.39168.michael-tansella@gmx.de> (Michael Tansella's message of "Thu\, 3 Sep 2009 10\:50\:39 +0200") References: <200909021750.50993.michael-tansella@gmx.de> <200909031050.39168.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: Michael Tansella writes: >> Michael Tansella writes: >> > How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) >> > from >> >> You can consider using "miredo" techonology. That way you don't have >> to maintain a special publically accessible server yourself. It >> basically gives you dynamic ipv6 address you can reach from anywhere. > > Thanks, sounds interesting. Did somebody successfully compile it? > > It configures successfull. > It compiles very much and then I get the following error: > > generating symbol list for `libtun6.la' > nm .libs/tun6.o .libs/diag.o ../compat/.libs/libcompat.a | | /bin/sed 's/.* > //' | sort | uniq > .libs/libtun6.exp > ../libtool: eval: line 1: syntax error: "|" unexpected > make[2]: *** [libtun6.la] Error 2 > > It seems to be a libtool problem. Any idea? If you're compiling on FR it's quite possible you have problems because of busybox. Try to install GNU tools (bash, sed etc) instead. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From martin.jansa at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 11:34:39 2009 From: martin.jansa at gmail.com (Martin Jansa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:34:39 +0200 Subject: [Shr-Devel] I'd like to add some packages to the feeds In-Reply-To: <4A9F88F2.4020602@SSpaeth.de> References: <200909022149.45265.angus@akkea.ca> <4A9F88F2.4020602@SSpaeth.de> Message-ID: <20090903093439.GD24228@jama> On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:14:26AM +0200, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > Angus Ainslie wrote: > Fine with me, but what is gpsd for? are you planning for an fso-less > environment and no fso-gpsd in the SHR feed? > If you are interested in the clients only, why not make an gps-clients > package... > > spaetz When talking about gps utils, what about good old agpsui? I liked it for testing purposes and options like cold reset, warm reset etc. Probably new options like drop fso-agps data (as in shr-settings) would be nice. http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmoko-agpsui/ Also Angus, you're author of btGPS too, aren't you? http://www.handheldshell.com/software/fso/BtGPS.php I've tested it with some nokia phone, because it has maps and its without gps receiver, but it didn't work. First there was problem with some /sys paths or something which i solved by running commands issued from BTgps.py by hand with right paths, but still that nokia timeouted when waiting for gps position (I checked that I had a fix and was sending some gps data over rfcomm line). Is there something special about bt-gps protocol? Or its not standard at all? I haven't found neither specification or at least nokia-specification. Thanks -- uin:136542059 jid:Martin.Jansa at gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jamasip at voip.wengo.fr JaMa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090903/b4e9a015/attachment.pgp From t.landspurg at 8motions.com Thu Sep 3 11:40:34 2009 From: t.landspurg at 8motions.com (Thomas Landspurg) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:40:34 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions I have some point of disagreement, but I would like first to stay polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he disappear? I am trying to contact him since more than a week without success.... 2009/9/3 Risto H. Kurppa : > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Yorick Moko wrote: >> this is how I see it, from an end-user point-of-view: >> >> openBmap has the most cells >> openBmap maps the most information >> >> all I want is as much cells as possible >> AND >> know that I'm logging everything that increases the quality of the data >> (AFAIK cellhunter logs less information) >> >> openBmap does the trick for both of them > > +1 > > (and I also know that onen/openBmap is working on software to do the > location based on GPS cells) > > But if the projects want to co-operate and use same databases I'm > thumbs up for it! > > > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org From perezdiez at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 12:25:05 2009 From: perezdiez at gmail.com (Jose Luis Perez Diez) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:25:05 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] no sound after resume In-Reply-To: <18db98c80909030140h463bfa00x5f120b73b62b7de5@mail.gmail.com> References: <18db98c80909030047v31830481le50500a4c39baf92@mail.gmail.com> <18db98c80909030140h463bfa00x5f120b73b62b7de5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909031225.06000.perezdiez@gmail.com> El Thursday, 3 de September de 2009 10:40:59 Davide Scaini va escriure: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Christ van Willegen > > wrote: .... > > Did you install Navit? > > > > Of course! > > (but i cannot her the voice... :) ) Use the instructions on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit#Speech and http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Translations In my case I use espeak with the spanish voice and LANG=es_ES calling it with "LANG=es_ES DISPLAY=:0 navit" and a speech tag like: From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 12:57:44 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:57:44 +0200 Subject: [Offtopic] Flashcard for learning english Message-ID: Dear List, Does somebody know a website where I could download ready made images, with sounds for pronounciation? Something like flashcard learning. For example: image: grapes text under image: "grapes" voice: grapes.mp3 Do such website exists? A fast google does not turn up any useful website. Best regards, Laszlo From openmoko at ginguppin.de Thu Sep 3 13:05:16 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:05:16 +0200 Subject: [Offtopic] Flashcard for learning english In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: check out http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/ they offer both phonetic transcriptions (though not in an international phonetic alphabet, it seems) and mp3 files. since the dictionary base itself is free (search for "ding" in your distribution's repos), the transcriptions and mp3 files might be as well. From risto at kurppa.fi Thu Sep 3 13:09:42 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:09:42 +0300 Subject: [Offtopic] Flashcard for learning english In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Christmas_Tree.JPG http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:En-Christmas_tree.ogg The material's already done, you only need to write the app to use it :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From cchandel at yahoo.com Thu Sep 3 14:05:10 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 07:05:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Offtopic] Flashcard for learning english In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1251979510337-3572756.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:En- > The material's already done, you only need to write the app to use it :) > With inputs from Laszlo KREKACS, intone now supports showing an image while playing a mp3 file with the same name ie Christmas_tree.ogg and Christmas_Tree.jpg should work. They just need to be placed in a directory. I think he's been looking for something like this for over a month now. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Offtopic-Flashcard-for-learning-english-tp3572448p3572756.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From martin.jansa at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 14:06:42 2009 From: martin.jansa at gmail.com (Martin Jansa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:06:42 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen In-Reply-To: References: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> <20090901101832.GC24228@jama> <2f3aa2770909010322i464608b2q49512e24088f8467@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <141020e30909030506p38463c50l69bc8e18eb56ee7e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > Both should be obsoleted. libframeworkd-phonegui-efl is dead, and we > don't plan to use etk at all in new stack. > Strange I tried to remove libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-* and whole directory /usr/share/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl and even pin request wasn't shown, after install of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-shr and then libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo again, it was shown ok after xserver restart, but maybe its just coincidence. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've had my bad times with media players as in the beginning none of the worked nice.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From dscaini at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 14:28:21 2009 From: dscaini at gmail.com (Davide Scaini) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:28:21 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] no sound after resume In-Reply-To: <200909031225.06000.perezdiez@gmail.com> References: <18db98c80909030047v31830481le50500a4c39baf92@mail.gmail.com> <18db98c80909030140h463bfa00x5f120b73b62b7de5@mail.gmail.com> <200909031225.06000.perezdiez@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18db98c80909030528t24b6905dpb23fc70602c90bdf@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Jose, I'll try this w-e... ! hoping it works ;) d On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: > El Thursday, 3 de September de 2009 10:40:59 Davide Scaini va escriure: > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Christ van Willegen > > > > wrote: > .... > > > Did you install Navit? > > > > > > Of course! > > > > (but i cannot her the voice... :) ) > > Use the instructions on: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit#Speech > > and > > http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Translations > > > In my case I use espeak with the spanish voice and LANG=es_ES calling it > with "LANG=es_ES DISPLAY=:0 navit" and a speech tag like: > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <26fea52c0909030557jb255196q54df0a5148438f36@mail.gmail.com> he used to be on #openmoko-cdevel (nick: OnenBmap) but I haven't seen him in a long time maybe somebody there knows more about it On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Thomas Landspurg wrote: > Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions > > I have some point of disagreement, but I would like first to stay > polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he > disappear? I am trying to contact him since more than a week without > success.... > > 2009/9/3 Risto H. Kurppa : > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Yorick Moko > wrote: > >> this is how I see it, from an end-user point-of-view: > >> > >> openBmap has the most cells > >> openBmap maps the most information > >> > >> all I want is as much cells as possible > >> AND > >> know that I'm logging everything that increases the quality of the data > >> (AFAIK cellhunter logs less information) > >> > >> openBmap does the trick for both of them > > > > +1 > > > > (and I also know that onen/openBmap is working on software to do the > > location based on GPS cells) > > > > But if the projects want to co-operate and use same databases I'm > > thumbs up for it! > > > > > > r > > > > -- > > | risto h. kurppa > > | risto at kurppa dot fi > > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community at lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > -- > Thomas LANDSPURG > 8Motions > Founder/CTO > http://www.8motions.com > http://www.opencellid.org > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090903/7484c4ed/attachment-0001.htm From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 15:04:00 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:04:00 +0200 Subject: [FSO] how to get info from odeviced audio interface? Message-ID: Hi! Maybe many of you know, that Angus wrote a mixer script which helps finetune the voice quality during call. The mixer script can be found here: http://www.mail-archive.com/support at lists.openmoko.org/msg04800.html It halts with this error message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "elmixer.py", line 429, in run = Main() File "elmixer.py", line 70, in __init__ info = self.audio_iface.GetInfo() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 68, in __call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py", line 702, in _message_cb retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/odeviced/audio.py", line 491, in GetInfo dbus_ok( self.players.__class__.__name__ ) AttributeError: 'Audio' object has no attribute 'player' Also the following command is not successful either: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.GetInfo error message: /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio: GetInfo failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError Could somebody help me out why is it broken? Best regards, Laszlo From openmoko at ginguppin.de Thu Sep 3 15:12:28 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:12:28 +0200 Subject: [FSO] how to get info from odeviced audio interface? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio > org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.GetInfo i don't know about the currrent api, but testing with a known not working call seems rather silly. i would try mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced and check for the possible path, in case /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio is really there, try again mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio else try one level above mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device and check the listing for names looking sensible. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 15:16:45 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:16:45 +0200 Subject: [FSO] how to get info from odeviced audio interface? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:12 PM, arne anka wrote: > and check for the possible path, in case /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio > is really there, try again It looks, its there: root at om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio [METHOD] org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable.Introspect() [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.GetAvailableScenarios() [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.GetInfo() [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.GetScenario() [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PlaySound( s:name, i:loop, i:length ) [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PullScenario() [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PushScenario( s:name ) [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SetScenario( s:name ) [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.StopAllSounds() [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.StopSound( s:name ) [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.StoreScenario( s:name ) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.Scenario( s:scenario, s:reason ) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SoundStatus( s:name, s:status, a{sv}:properties ) Best regards, Laszlo From openmoko at ginguppin.de Thu Sep 3 15:40:48 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:40:48 +0200 Subject: [FSO] how to get info from odeviced audio interface? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > [METHOD] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.GetInfo() i had a short look at the file/line (audio.py l.491) and fumbled a bit with that self.player -- but no luck. looks like a bug to me, even more, since i explicetly removed the call to the _attribute_. From openmoko at ginguppin.de Thu Sep 3 15:51:07 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:51:07 +0200 Subject: [FSO] how to get info from odeviced audio interface? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: seems, the code is read once upon start of frameworkd and no change is detected until restart. you could try to change the method GetInfo to something like dbus_ok( self.players["ogg"].__class__.__name__ ) or player = self.playerForFile("foo.ogg") dbus_ok( player.__class__.__name__ ) and restart frameworkd. From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 16:02:59 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:02:59 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen In-Reply-To: <141020e30909030506p38463c50l69bc8e18eb56ee7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3aa2770909010257l6e80889bge3818c75d030d360@mail.gmail.com> <20090901101832.GC24228@jama> <2f3aa2770909010322i464608b2q49512e24088f8467@mail.gmail.com> <141020e30909030506p38463c50l69bc8e18eb56ee7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/3/09, Martin Jansa wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > wrote: >> >> Both should be obsoleted. libframeworkd-phonegui-efl is dead, and we >> don't plan to use etk at all in new stack. >> > > Strange I tried to remove libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-* > and whole directory > /usr/share/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl > and even pin request wasn't shown, after install of > libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-shr > and then libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo again, it was shown ok after > xserver restart, but maybe its just coincidence. > Hmm... I don't understand. What did you expected? :x Deleting libframeworkd-phonegui-efl theme will cause broken libframeworkd-phonegui-efl :P It's dead, but it's still used (but it hopefully will be replaced soon) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 16:49:39 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:49:39 +0200 Subject: [Shr-Devel] I'd like to add some packages to the feeds In-Reply-To: <20090903093439.GD24228@jama> References: <200909022149.45265.angus@akkea.ca> <4A9F88F2.4020602@SSpaeth.de> <20090903093439.GD24228@jama> Message-ID: On 9/3/09, Martin Jansa wrote: > When talking about gps utils, what about good old agpsui? I liked it for > testing purposes and options like cold reset, warm reset etc. Probably > new options like drop fso-agps data (as in shr-settings) would be nice. > http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmoko-agpsui/ openmoko-agps is contacting GPS chip directly instead of using gypsy or gpsd interface, so on FSO systems it won't be so usable -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From maxious at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 16:54:33 2009 From: maxious at gmail.com (Alex (Maxious) Sadleir) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 00:54:33 +1000 Subject: [Shr-Devel] I'd like to add some packages to the feeds In-Reply-To: References: <200909022149.45265.angus@akkea.ca> <4A9F88F2.4020602@SSpaeth.de> <20090903093439.GD24228@jama> Message-ID: <1e5d79990909030754l55adf4fcr6650b66cb13f3cd7@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/3/09, Martin Jansa wrote: >> When talking about gps utils, what about good old agpsui? I liked it for >> testing purposes and options like cold reset, warm reset etc. Probably >> new options like drop fso-agps data (as in shr-settings) would be nice. >> http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmoko-agpsui/ > > openmoko-agps is contacting GPS chip directly instead of using gypsy > or gpsd interface, so on FSO systems it won't be so usable However omgps does work on FSO systems, is even in the SHR feed I recently discovered and has those advanced restart features/satellite details/sky maps that agpsui had and more. From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 18:36:25 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:36:25 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/3/09, Thomas Landspurg wrote: > Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions > > I have some point of disagreement, but I would like first to stay > polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he > disappear? I am trying to contact him since more than a week without > success.... He just returned (few minutes ago). He explained on IRC that he was offline thanks to his new internet provider :P -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From onen.om at free.fr Thu Sep 3 19:48:23 2009 From: onen.om at free.fr (Onen) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:48:23 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab347b00909012359h57fd96a4y976b0db000c824a7@mail.gmail.com> <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> Hi, I was away from my computer, I try to go now through my emails... Thomas Landspurg wrote: > Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions > > I have some point of disagreement, Please tell. but I would like first to stay > polite You imply you think you have good reasons not to. I think you should simply tell what you think. and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he > disappear? !!! I am trying to contact him since more than a week without > success.... > I find very ironic that you find more than a week thaaaaaat long. Onen From huelsegge at gmx.de Thu Sep 3 20:14:24 2009 From: huelsegge at gmx.de (Mario =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=FClsegge?=) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:14:24 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? Message-ID: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> hi, i just tried the glamo-accelerated mplayer version from http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2 and followed the instructions on the wiki (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player). videos can be played, but 2 problems occured: - audio works only if i start intone before i watch a video - if audio is there, mplayer tells me the maschine is too slow and the audio gets out of sync with the video. the second problem is known, but should have been resolved, as it it is said here: http://www.mail-archive.com/community at lists.openmoko.org/msg34795.html so, is mplayer-glamo still working with latest shr-unstable? has anyone tried it recently? From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 20:10:13 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:10:13 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:11 AM, c_c wrote: > ?I use [1] for getting the lyrics and album art. In fact I had planned on > using their API to automate getting lyrics and album art - but apparently > because of licensing issues the API has been stopped. I use this helper program: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lyricwiki/0.1.9 I wrote a small python program, it extracts keywords from the filename, and execute the above script and save the lyrics to filename.txt. It works most of the time it failed 15 time from 500 music file. Best regards, Laszlo From mckeea at rpi.edu Thu Sep 3 20:20:19 2009 From: mckeea at rpi.edu (Tony McKeehan) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:20:19 -0400 Subject: [QTMoko] V8 doesn't receive SMS Message-ID: <4AA008E3.4030803@rpi.edu> I just installed V8 of the QT Moko and overall I am very happy with it. I've noticed that it is much faster than previous versions with QX installed. I do have a problem where SMS messages went unreceived. I should have received 3 SMS messages, but QT Moko failed to notice them (and it was connected to my phone network because I was able to make calls). Also, the volume is very low for phone calls even after updating the gsmhandset.state file to use values of 120. Does anyone else have either of these problems? -Tony From ant007h at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 20:46:56 2009 From: ant007h at gmail.com (ANT) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:46:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [QTMoko] V8 doesn't receive SMS In-Reply-To: <4AA008E3.4030803@rpi.edu> References: <4AA008E3.4030803@rpi.edu> Message-ID: <1252003616077-3575294.post@n2.nabble.com> Tony McKeehan wrote: >Does anyone else have either of these problems? Yes. I've lost several SMSes too. -- Anton -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QTMoko-V8-doesn-t-receive-SMS-tp3575124p3575294.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From risto at kurppa.fi Thu Sep 3 21:18:13 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:18:13 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> References: <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> Message-ID: I have no idea what's going on between you people but: Now that I had a little thought, I really don't care how many copies of the database we have. All I care about is that a) there's a way to use the data (=a client capable to locate me based on the GSM cells around me) b) the client uses the database with most cells. -> as long as all three projects have proper API's to import/export data and they do it from the other 2 projects things work. It kind of makes sense if the projects use different ways to collect the data. One has it as a competition, one uses some clients to collect the data, another uses other clients and projects. And in the end they all benefit from the work of others. Just some points for you to discuss: a) common api or data format to import/export b) common api to submit cells r - goes out to find some cells (no, not really, I'll watch an episode of CSI :) -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From b0ef at esben-stien.name Fri Sep 4 00:25:53 2009 From: b0ef at esben-stien.name (Esben Stien) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:25:53 +0200 Subject: eneolock screen locker In-Reply-To: <1251965598954-3571840.post@n2.nabble.com> (Mike Crash's message of "Thu\, 3 Sep 2009 03\:13\:18 -0500 \(CDT\)") References: <1251965598954-3571840.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <871vmn7jim.fsf@quasar.esben-stien.name> Mike Crash writes: > I have created new screen locker How about a screen locker that actually locks the phone?. -- Esben Stien is b0ef at e s a http://www. s t n m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@ n n From jerjoz.forums at gmail.com Thu Sep 3 23:56:13 2009 From: jerjoz.forums at gmail.com (jeremy jozwik) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:56:13 -0700 Subject: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus Message-ID: hello list. im interested in getting placed / missed / received call information directly from dbus without the use of phonelog. pyphonelog has been busted on my phone for some time now. long ago i ran opkg upgrade and lost the use of phonelog. new images of shr dont seem to work for me either. so im interested to see if i can get around this problem rather then wait for a working version. From fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de Fri Sep 4 00:16:25 2009 From: fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de (D. Fett) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:16:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252016185665-3576474.post@n2.nabble.com> D. Fett wrote: > > "Notify the community mailing list." > (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications) > > Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux has all important features to make your > geocaching life easier: > > - download geocaches for offline use with full text, hints & images on > your freerunner > - map view with icons for nearby geocaches (uses openstreetmaps and > tangogps map directory, downloades missing tiles automatically) > - search the internal database for geocaches by name or type > - target selection: selected geocache, one of its waypoints or manual > input > > more at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html > And here comes version 0.2.0. Now you can log your geocaches while out in the field and upload the notes later on. No more "What was the name of the cache I found this morning?" As usual, the package is available at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3576474.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de Fri Sep 4 00:18:14 2009 From: fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de (D. Fett) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <4A9EC096.5000302@everlasting.be> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <4A9EC096.5000302@everlasting.be> Message-ID: <1252016294510-3576481.post@n2.nabble.com> Hans Zimmerman wrote: > > D. Fett wrote: >> "Notify the community mailing list." >> (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications) >> >> Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux has all important features to make >> your >> geocaching life easier: >> >> - download geocaches for offline use with full text, hints & images on >> your >> freerunner >> - map view with icons for nearby geocaches (uses openstreetmaps and >> tangogps >> map directory, downloades missing tiles automatically) >> - search the internal database for geocaches by name or type >> - target selection: selected geocache, one of its waypoints or manual >> input >> >> more at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html > > Testing the latest version 0.1.2: > - I do not seem to get a GPS fix (other GPS applications do get a fix) > - I try do download caches, the console does show some caches are > downloaded (I recognize names from the neighbourhood) but they are not > shown on the map. > > Hans, please test the new package. I did not experience problems with GPS fix in 0.1.2, but maybe restarting the app can help. The second bug you describe was indeed there. Should work by now. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3576481.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de Fri Sep 4 00:21:34 2009 From: fett_mokokernel at fragcom.de (D. Fett) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:21:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <1252016494495-3576492.post@n2.nabble.com> Marcel-2 wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: >> Hi! >> >> I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the >> colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on >> these two issues? > > Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( > Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit > there. Which would be disappointing... > I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget > that points at the widget's center - intentionally? > Next try, if it doesn't work now, there's something going on which I don't know by now :-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Towards-paperless-geocaching-Advanced-Geocaching-Tool-for-Linux-tp3529624p3576492.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From digitalpioneer at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 00:40:30 2009 From: digitalpioneer at gmail.com (The Digital Pioneer) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:40:30 -0500 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, last chance: anyone who wants it, one FR with cracked LCD, comes with accessories. Current bid is about $70. Anyone care to raise it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090903/2e3510e3/attachment-0001.htm From cchandel at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 03:35:27 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:35:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252028127930-3577232.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > Just use elementary Pager! It's designed for things like that ;) > Well, there are some issues with that :- 1. pager is slow on FR's 2. Also it uses a little bit of extra space all around 3. I will need to re-create the 8 buttons and 2 sliders for each view 4. The hit of keeping 2 out of the three of list / text box / image in memory at any time (think about a 4000 songs list when in play all songs mode!) Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > I wrote a small python program, it extracts keywords from the filename, > and execute the above script and save the lyrics to filename.txt. > It works most of the time it failed 15 time from 500 music file. > Can you send me a link - or put up the script on Intone's wiki page. That should help people. Of the files in the intone ipk 1. /usr/share/intone/no-album-art.png is missing 2. /usr/share/intone/glade/intone.glade is not required (including the directory /usr/share/intone/glade) Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3577232.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 03:45:18 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:45:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252028718680-3577264.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, jeremy jozwik wrote: > > hello list. im interested in getting placed / missed / received call > information directly from dbus without the use of phonelog. > Well, you could try launcher. It has built in phonelog, sms and contacts. Of these, contacts and phonelog work (more or less ;-) whle sms has a few issues. It uses opim and is quite fast if I may say so myself. Just a suggestion. Or you could use dbus calls. use 1. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query {} This will return something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Queries/1 2. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Queries/1 org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetMultipleResults 10 to get 10 calls. HTH. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/all-getting-missed-call-information-out-of-dbus-tp3576419p3577264.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 03:53:31 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Mario H?lsegge wrote: > > - audio works only if i start intone before i watch a video > Could be because you need to insmod snd-pcm-oss for the audio to work. Mario H?lsegge wrote: > > - if audio is there, mplayer tells me the machine is too slow and the > audio gets out of sync with the video. > After trying both the mplayer-glamo and the mplayer-low versions I can say that neither really seems to solve the issue. Probably more tuning of mplayer is required - or perhaps there is another problem that needs fixing. Playing 320x240 (prescaled and rotated) with sound seems about ok. Anything bigger creates issues. The video playing part needs a lot of work - and there aren't too many people interested (or so it seems :-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3577306.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 03:56:53 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:56:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251903744830-3567362.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252029413978-3577323.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > "Try with img.smoot_set(1/0) and see if it changes" > > Could you please try out the above suggestion? > It seems that smooth doesn't exist for photos. I'm trying to get an image to display but it doesn't :-( I must be doing something wrong - cause I see a blank space where the image should be. Any ideas / sample code? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/intone-and-symlinks-tp3562612p3577323.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jerjoz.forums at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 05:06:02 2009 From: jerjoz.forums at gmail.com (jeremy jozwik) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:06:02 -0700 Subject: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus In-Reply-To: <1252028718680-3577264.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252028718680-3577264.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:45 PM, c_c wrote: > Well, you could try launcher. It has built in phonelog, sms and contacts. > Of these, contacts and phonelog work (more or less ;-) whle sms has a few > issues. It uses opim and is quite fast if I may say so myself. maybe. ill look more into it tonight > 1. mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query > org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query {} service name not found. but this could be because i typed it it wrong. i have quadruple checked it. will try again when i have ssh available. From cchandel at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 06:36:15 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 23:36:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251903744830-3567362.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252038975782-3577888.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > "Try with img.smoot_set(1/0) and see if it changes" > Well, I've committed the source with changes to get a (smooth) image for cover art - and yes, it does make a huge difference. Thanks. PS: Here's the intone binary for the impatient. (not ipk - just the /usr/bin/intone binary) http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3577888/intone intone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/intone-and-symlinks-tp3562612p3577888.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jerjoz.forums at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 07:35:59 2009 From: jerjoz.forums at gmail.com (jeremy jozwik) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:35:59 -0700 Subject: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus In-Reply-To: References: <1252028718680-3577264.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: yep. so launcher dose not list missed calls either. From kazer at altern.org Fri Sep 4 09:36:32 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 02:36:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> c_c wrote: > > > The video playing part needs a lot of work - and there aren't too many > people interested (or so it seems :-) > > Or maybe it's like mms and bluetooth pairing/handling: people are interested but don't make much noise about it cause it's nowhere near functionnal right now.. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3578142.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From fercerpav at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 09:47:10 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:47:10 +0400 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> (kazer@altern.org's message of "Fri\, 4 Sep 2009 02\:36\:32 -0500 \(CDT\)") References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: KaZeR writes: > Or maybe it's like mms and bluetooth pairing/handling: people are > interested but don't make much noise about it cause it's nowhere > near functionnal right now.. Bluetooth pairing works flawlessly, bluetooth A2DP works, bluetooth networking works, bluetooth music player control works, bluetooth mouse/keyboard work, bluetooth GSM headsets work but with inconveniences. What bluetooth doesn't work for you? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From psonek2 at seznam.cz Fri Sep 4 09:59:15 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:59:15 +0200 Subject: [QTMoko] V8 doesn't receive SMS In-Reply-To: <4AA008E3.4030803@rpi.edu> References: <4AA008E3.4030803@rpi.edu> Message-ID: <1252051155.5473.46.camel@rp-glum> Tony McKeehan wrote: > I do have a problem where SMS messages went unreceived. I should have > received 3 SMS messages, but QT Moko failed to notice them (and it was > connected to my phone network because I was able to make calls). I have locally reverted the only commit around SMS code that i found and you can find recompiled binary here: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4 You download it and copy to your phone like: scp libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4 root at 192.168.0.202:/opt/qtmoko/lib/libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4 Can you please try if that helps? > Also, > the volume is very low for phone calls even after updating the > gsmhandset.state file to use values of 120. You can try install qAlsaMixer (from QtExtended feeds in package manager) and tweak the volume using this tool. > Does anyone else have either of these problems? The SMS is known issue now. It's my bug #1 together with the "no sound in incoming call". It should be possible to fix both of them with some effort, because these bugs were not presented in old QtExtended with old 2.6.24 kernel. Regards Radek From tanuva at googlemail.com Fri Sep 4 10:06:08 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:06:08 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1252016494495-3576492.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251721116611-3553049.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251727643.3663.92.camel@d-wwow> <1251832803657-3562533.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251882884.3641.13.camel@d-wwow> <1252016494495-3576492.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252051568.3524.2.camel@d-wwow> Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 17:21 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: > > > Marcel-2 wrote: > > > > Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:20 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: > >> Hi! > >> > >> I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the > >> colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on > >> these two issues? > > > > Font color still gets black after having the Map tab open. :( > > Map drawing doesn't feel that fast yet. Maybe it's just python's limit > > there. Which would be disappointing... > > I got a big crosshair with ~2px wide lines over the whole map widget > > that points at the widget's center - intentionally? > > > > Next try, if it doesn't work now, there's something going on which I don't > know by now :-) You fixed it! Thanks a lot, now this is a really great app! :D From hersche at puzzle.ch Fri Sep 4 10:17:57 2009 From: hersche at puzzle.ch (Vinzenz Hersche) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:17:57 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> Message-ID: <200909041017.57847.hersche@puzzle.ch> Am Dienstag, 1. September 2009 05.24:00 schrieb Radek Polak: > Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote: > > I just noticed something strange though: I got a couple of calls, and > > I couldn't hear the caller. The phone wakes up and rings, I can > > answer, and the caller hears me, but i can't hear anything on the > > speaker. This problem only happens on incoming calls, outgoing calls > > work just fine. Could this have to do with the phone not waking up > > from suspend properly? > > This is known issue. Workaround is to outgoing call after reboot (e.g. > to some non paid number). I think it's more likely related to wrong > alsa state settings then suspend. It's quite annoying and i hope to > fix this soon. > > Radek > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > wouldn't it be better to port fso for that? i just think about that because it works "stable" (i could phone all the time, now).. of course, karadog made this already, but as i know, he doesn't develop it anymore. and it's also possible to let fso work on debian, i think.. greets From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Fri Sep 4 10:20:38 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:20:38 +0200 Subject: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AA0CDD6.40804@wollishausen.de> jeremy jozwik schrieb: > hello list. im interested in getting placed / missed / received call > information directly from dbus without the use of phonelog. > pyphonelog has been busted on my phone for some time now. long ago i > ran opkg upgrade and lost the use of phonelog. > new images of shr dont seem to work for me either. > so im interested to see if i can get around this problem rather then > wait for a working version. > there was an issue with phonelog (or its db): did you try to delete /var/db/*.db and restart ? -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 From openmoko at ginguppin.de Fri Sep 4 11:48:11 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:48:11 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: > bluetooth GSM headsets work but with > inconveniences. that's putting it mildly. in its current state it is unsable. we had taht discussion a while ago in extenso. > What bluetooth doesn't work for you? the same as the last time taht discussion surfaced: headset. the idea of rebooting the entire phone just to switch from bt headset back to handset does not really fit the description of "working". if that issue has been solved now, at least nothing was posted here. From fercerpav at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 12:12:09 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:12:09 +0400 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: (arne anka's message of "Fri\, 04 Sep 2009 11\:48\:11 +0200") References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: "arne anka" writes: >> bluetooth GSM headsets work but with >> inconveniences. > > that's putting it mildly. > in its current state it is unsable. we had taht discussion a while ago in > extenso. Agreed. Not exactly unusable. I imagine if somebody is constantly using only headset (i can actually imagine that, yes ;) ), it works ok, one just needs to reestablish connection after resume and that's easy to automate. But other than that, well... If you guys tested the support right after it was written and didn't wait for half a year probably the developers would fix the bugs fast, now i'm afraid they're busy with other stuff. >> What bluetooth doesn't work for you? > > the same as the last time taht discussion surfaced: headset. > the idea of rebooting the entire phone just to switch from bt headset back > to handset does not really fit the description of "working". Yes, rebooting the phone is definetely over-stretching it, since rebooting frameworkd is enough but other than that i agree. > if that issue has been solved now, at least nothing was posted here. He wrote about bluetooth support in general, not about the headset. It's only headset support that has problems but the majority of bluetooth functionality works ok, as far as i know. If something is not working, feel free to report. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From openmoko at ginguppin.de Fri Sep 4 12:25:39 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:25:39 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: > If you guys tested the support right after it was written and didn't > wait for half a year probably the developers would fix the bugs fast, > now i'm afraid they're busy with other stuff. agreed. but then again, i don't recall a lot of status messages on bt support on the community list back then. From cvwillegen at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 12:54:56 2009 From: cvwillegen at gmail.com (Christ van Willegen) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:54:56 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, arne anka wrote: >> If you guys tested the support right after it was written and didn't >> wait for half a year probably the developers would fix the bugs fast, >> now i'm afraid they're busy with other stuff. > > agreed. > but then again, i don't recall a lot of status messages on bt support on > the community list back then. One of the reasons of getting a FR in the first place was the BT chip inside. In .nl, a headset is compulsory while driving a vehicle, and I have a headset for that reason. I've been able to make 1 (one) successful call with the headset, and I had quite some hoops to jump through in order to get it to work (Paul helped me immensely there, by the way!). So, basically I'm still looking forward to a button that says 'reconnect to BT Headset' or 'disconnect from BT Headset' in SHR settings (in 'Connectivity?'), since, indeed, most people have and use 1 headset. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 From psonek2 at seznam.cz Fri Sep 4 13:09:04 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:09:04 +0200 Subject: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions In-Reply-To: <200909041017.57847.hersche@puzzle.ch> References: <378228.11592.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <930935.89321.qm@web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1251775440.4142.2.camel@rp-glum> <200909041017.57847.hersche@puzzle.ch> Message-ID: <1252062544.7379.8.camel@rp-glum> Vinzenz Hersche wrote: > wouldn't it be better to port fso for that? i just think about that because it > works "stable" (i could phone all the time, now).. Patches are welcome :) I don't have enough time to do it myself. Besides the Qtopia phone stack is IMO stable and well designed. So for me fixing small bugs in Qtopia phone library makes more sense for now. Regards Radek From fercerpav at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 13:08:05 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:08:05 +0400 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted Message-ID: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> Hi, I remember you were testing the fsoraw method and indeed proved that it doesn't work properly with the latest kernel. After some discussion we reverted the offending patch and now the latest SHR kernel should provide the same level of stability as .28. Please try again and report the results. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 13:32:51 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:32:51 +0200 Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: <1252038975782-3577888.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251903744830-3567362.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252038975782-3577888.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:36 AM, c_c wrote: >> "Try with img.smoot_set(1/0) and see if it changes" >> > ?Well, I've committed the source with changes to get a (smooth) image for > cover art - and yes, it does make a huge difference. > ?Thanks. np > PS: Here's the intone binary for the impatient. (not ipk - just the > /usr/bin/intone binary) Thanks, I will report asap. Report about symlinks: It seems, it has bugs. I could added some of the music once from symlink, but most of the time it just does not add it at all. Im testing it more then 2 days now, and can not really see the pattern, but does not work as expected. So Im proposing this solution: 1. Forget about symlinks. User can add multiple directory anyway (I didnt know this feature, thats why I whined about symlinks) 2. Implement a list view where we can simply add and remove directories. Thats it. Should be dead simple, because intone likes to crashes, and I suspect most of the crashes are related to path handling/database. So implement this simple approach. No more no less;) Best regards, Khiraly From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 13:37:13 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:37:13 +0200 Subject: [FSO] how to get info from odeviced audio interface? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM, arne anka wrote: > seems, the code is read once upon start of frameworkd and no change is > detected until restart. > you could try to change the method GetInfo to something like Ok, solving the initial problem (get elmixer.py to run) was enough to uncomment the GetInfo line. # info = self.audio_iface.GetInfo() However would be nice from FSO people to fix the Getinfo method or remove it completely. Do not see any benefits (especially when some apps are rely on it) to keep known to be broken methods in the source. Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 13:41:26 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:41:26 +0200 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, The Digital Pioneer wrote: > OK, last chance: anyone who wants it, one FR with cracked LCD, comes with > accessories. Current bid is about $70. Anyone care to raise it? I really suggest you to keep it. On my freerunner the power button are already began to wear seriously. I need to push it with my nails. Dunno any alternative method to wake up the device from suspend. I highly bet this is a custom part. Really 70$ is not much, for me, the shipping cost would be about the same. So really, keep it (if you are planning to buy a new freerunner). Best regards, Laszlo From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 13:43:34 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:43:34 +0200 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> Message-ID: <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: > Hi, > > I remember you were testing the fsoraw method and indeed proved that it > doesn't work properly with the latest kernel. After some discussion we > reverted the offending patch and now the latest SHR kernel should provide > the same level of stability as .28. > > Please try again and report the results. I'm not sure but latest SHR kernel seems to be 2d158aae9d8d36f575504f59884ed8e80802efe2, and that does not include the wifi revert. I built a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8 and commented the HTC line suggested in your patch, and my freerunner crashed, but anyway I played too much with my oe tree and I'm quite sure I was wrong somewhere (as the HTC line is on a different position than your patch suggests). I'm going to rebuild again and report. Regards Nicola From digitalpioneer at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 13:45:15 2009 From: digitalpioneer at gmail.com (The Digital Pioneer) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 06:45:15 -0500 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, I'm not really planning to buy another one. I enjoyed playing with it while I had it, but now I really just want something that works, works well, and keeps working. :( -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From hersche at puzzle.ch Fri Sep 4 14:06:57 2009 From: hersche at puzzle.ch (Vinzenz Hersche) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:06:57 +0200 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> Message-ID: <200909041406.58745.hersche@puzzle.ch> Am Freitag, 4. September 2009 13.08:05 schrieb Paul Fertser: > Hi, > > I remember you were testing the fsoraw method and indeed proved that it > doesn't work properly with the latest kernel. After some discussion we > reverted the offending patch and now the latest SHR kernel should provide > the same level of stability as .28. > > Please try again and report the results. > hello paul, i saw the commit, tried it, and it's realy great! since this i've ben able to connect every wlan :) thx! From huelsegge at gmx.de Fri Sep 4 14:13:07 2009 From: huelsegge at gmx.de (Mario Huelsegge) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:13:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> c_c wrote: > > After trying both the mplayer-glamo and the mplayer-low versions I can > say that neither really seems to solve the issue. > Probably more tuning of mplayer is required - or perhaps there is > another problem that needs fixing. Playing 320x240 (prescaled and rotated) > with sound seems about ok. Anything bigger creates issues. > The video playing part needs a lot of work - and there aren't too many > people interested (or so it seems :-) > generally i find the mplayer-glamo very promising. without audio, i can play a reencoded 320x240 file with 10% cpu, compared to 50% with the normal mplayer. so it is worth a try. i guess the pre-built version i use has just some problem with audio. if this is solved, performence should be much improved. i hope there are some other people interested in tv series on the neo out there :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3579520.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From fercerpav at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 14:14:53 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:14:53 +0400 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> (Nicola Mfb's message of "Fri\, 4 Sep 2009 13\:43\:34 +0200") References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nicola Mfb writes: > I built a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8 and commented the HTC > line suggested in your patch Oh no! We reverted Werner's patch and with that nothing should be commented, it should work as is. And yes, you're building andy-tracking HEAD, that's right revision. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From fercerpav at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 14:21:04 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:21:04 +0400 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> (Nicola Mfb's message of "Fri\, 4 Sep 2009 13\:43\:34 +0200") References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nicola Mfb writes: >> I remember you were testing the fsoraw method and indeed proved that it >> doesn't work properly with the latest kernel. After some discussion we >> reverted the offending patch and now the latest SHR kernel should provide >> the same level of stability as .28. >> >> Please try again and report the results. > > I'm not sure but latest SHR kernel seems to be > 2d158aae9d8d36f575504f59884ed8e80802efe2, and that does not include > the wifi revert. http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.29-rc3_2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5_om-gta02.ipk opkg update && opkg upgrade should deliver it automatically. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From martin.jansa at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 14:32:25 2009 From: martin.jansa at gmail.com (Martin Jansa) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:32:25 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20090904123225.GB3046@jama> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 07:13:07AM -0500, Mario Huelsegge wrote: > > > c_c wrote: > > > > After trying both the mplayer-glamo and the mplayer-low versions I can > > say that neither really seems to solve the issue. > > Probably more tuning of mplayer is required - or perhaps there is > > another problem that needs fixing. Playing 320x240 (prescaled and rotated) > > with sound seems about ok. Anything bigger creates issues. > > The video playing part needs a lot of work - and there aren't too many > > people interested (or so it seems :-) > > > > generally i find the mplayer-glamo very promising. without audio, > i can play a reencoded 320x240 file with 10% cpu, compared to > 50% with the normal mplayer. so it is worth a try. > i guess the pre-built version i use has just some problem with audio. > if this is solved, performence should be much improved. > i hope there are some other people interested in tv series on the > neo out there :) You can try updated mplayer with rebased glamo patch. Works for me. patch for shr/import here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-July/051593.html or package request in shr trac http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/593 I use it for watching few video podcasts sometimes.. but without touchscreen gestures is still problematic to use (I need pause, seek, fullscreen toggle, quit, maybe volume control). I should try intone-video or some other gui instead of using mplayer from terminal :). -- uin:136542059 jid:Martin.Jansa at gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jamasip at voip.wengo.fr JaMa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/fb459d62/attachment.pgp From cchandel at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 14:48:32 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:48:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <20090904123225.GB3046@jama> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904123225.GB3046@jama> Message-ID: <1252068512670-3579709.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Martin Jansa wrote: > > You can try updated mplayer with rebased glamo patch. Works for me. > Do you have a binary taht you can upload to this list? I would like to try it out. Martin Jansa wrote: > > I should try intone-video or some other gui instead of using mplayer > from terminal :) > Intone-video has some issues - since the standard mplayer is slow but supports setting window sizes and location with the -geometry flag. The glamo patched one is faster but doesn't support window settings. The window covers the slipshelf and leaves odd artifacts after exit. So development is kinda stalled. If I can get a better patched mplayer - one that supports the standard flags - I'll get intone-video working the way it should. Can you help? Actually we need a single optimised build of mplayer that has all the relevant patches (tremor / glamo and some that I might have missed). -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3579709.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From neil.mstewart at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 15:05:28 2009 From: neil.mstewart at gmail.com (Neil M. Stewart) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:05:28 -0400 Subject: Bad CRC Message-ID: <5f7a25280909040605l38918661x949239117c1a1efc@mail.gmail.com> Hello List, I am using a Neo Freerunner GTA02 v6 device and I am having an issue with booting a new kernel. The Qi bootloader is being used. I recently compiled the andy-tracking branch of kernel (uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_mystable-a3587e4ed77974ad), however, when I boot receive the following error message: NAND read: device 0 offset 0x80000, size 0x200000 2097152 bytes read: OK ## Booting image at 32000000 ... Image Name: OM GTA02 mystable_a3587e4ed77974 Created: 2009-09-03 20:56:30 UTC Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed) Data Size: 2342800 Bytes = 2.2 MB Load Address: 30008000 Entry Point: 30008000 Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC The device does not go pass the openmoko splack image. Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing this issue. Your assistance is appreciated. Regards, Neil Stewart From tanuva at googlemail.com Fri Sep 4 15:17:10 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:17:10 +0200 Subject: Bad CRC In-Reply-To: <5f7a25280909040605l38918661x949239117c1a1efc@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f7a25280909040605l38918661x949239117c1a1efc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252070230.7382.18.camel@d-wwow> I guess your kernel image is somehow corrupted, try dfu-downloading a new kernel matching your distro. Am Freitag, den 04.09.2009, 09:05 -0400 schrieb Neil M. Stewart: > Hello List, > > I am using a Neo Freerunner GTA02 v6 device and I am having an issue > with booting a new kernel. The Qi bootloader is being used. I recently > compiled the andy-tracking branch of kernel > (uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_mystable-a3587e4ed77974ad), however, when I > boot receive the following error message: > > NAND read: device 0 offset 0x80000, size 0x200000 > 2097152 bytes read: OK > ## Booting image at 32000000 ... > Image Name: OM GTA02 mystable_a3587e4ed77974 > Created: 2009-09-03 20:56:30 UTC > Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed) > Data Size: 2342800 Bytes = 2.2 MB > Load Address: 30008000 > Entry Point: 30008000 > Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC > > The device does not go pass the openmoko splack image. Does anyone > have any ideas about what might be causing this issue. Your > assistance is appreciated. > > Regards, > Neil Stewart > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From fercerpav at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 15:18:21 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:18:21 +0400 Subject: Bad CRC In-Reply-To: <5f7a25280909040605l38918661x949239117c1a1efc@mail.gmail.com> (Neil M. Stewart's message of "Fri\, 4 Sep 2009 09\:05\:28 -0400") References: <5f7a25280909040605l38918661x949239117c1a1efc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "Neil M. Stewart" writes: > I am using a Neo Freerunner GTA02 v6 device and I am having an issue > with booting a new kernel. The Qi bootloader is being used. I > recently If you had used Qi you wouldn't see any messages on screen. The message you pasted is from u-boot telling it can't load kernel because it read only first 2M of it from NAND, not the full image. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From helge.hafting at hist.no Fri Sep 4 15:28:20 2009 From: helge.hafting at hist.no (Helge Hafting) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:28:20 +0200 Subject: [SHR] Default routes - gprs have priority over usb :-( Message-ID: <4AA115F4.9080709@hist.no> I like to have gprs connected. (auto-download map tiles on the road, possibly also agps) But gprs is slow and may cost, so I want usb networking to take precedence when possible. And wifi over that, when it is available. Now, wifi takes precedence over usb, because the default route for usb networking has metric 8. And the wifi default route has no penalty at all. But it looks like gprs also don't have a penalty, so it is preferred over USB. I can work around by shutting down gprs, but that is inconvenient. Is there a simple way to permanently give the gprs route a metric of more than 8? Looks like this has to be done in the "route" command, but I have not found where gprs actually sets its default route. Helge Hafting From billk at iinet.net.au Fri Sep 4 15:29:56 2009 From: billk at iinet.net.au (William Kenworthy) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:29:56 +0800 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252070996.3869.0.camel@rattus> That link looks like its only 762 bytes - somethings wrong? On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 16:21 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: > Nicola Mfb writes: > >> I remember you were testing the fsoraw method and indeed proved that it > >> doesn't work properly with the latest kernel. After some discussion we > >> reverted the offending patch and now the latest SHR kernel should provide > >> the same level of stability as .28. > >> > >> Please try again and report the results. > > > > I'm not sure but latest SHR kernel seems to be > > 2d158aae9d8d36f575504f59884ed8e80802efe2, and that does not include > > the wifi revert. > > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.29-rc3_2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5_om-gta02.ipk > > opkg update && opkg upgrade should deliver it automatically. > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth! From neil.mstewart at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 15:33:21 2009 From: neil.mstewart at gmail.com (Neil M. Stewart) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:33:21 -0400 Subject: Bad CRC In-Reply-To: References: <5f7a25280909040605l38918661x949239117c1a1efc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f7a25280909040633o7841264dya6da775acecc8ffb@mail.gmail.com> Paul, Thanks for the help. I reflashed the device with the Qi bootloader and it is now booting. Regards, Neil Stewart On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Paul Fertser wrote: > "Neil M. Stewart" writes: >> I am using a Neo Freerunner GTA02 v6 device and I am having an issue >> with booting a new kernel. The Qi bootloader is being used. I >> recently > > If you had used Qi you wouldn't see any messages on screen. The > message you pasted is from u-boot telling it can't load kernel because > it read only first 2M of it from NAND, not the full image. > > -- > Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! > mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com > From martin.jansa at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 15:34:20 2009 From: martin.jansa at gmail.com (Martin Jansa) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:34:20 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <1252068512670-3579709.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904123225.GB3046@jama> <1252068512670-3579709.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20090904133420.GC3046@jama> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 07:48:32AM -0500, c_c wrote: > Do you have a binary taht you can upload to this list? I would like to try > it out. Warning: its built on my modified shr/import based branch, but I guess it will be compatible with standard shr-unstable. I mean there is not just modified mplayer, but also Thomas KMS glamo xorg driver and latest xorg stuff from git master. You can download svn snapshot from today here: http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk Or when desktop at home is running then there will updated build every day, if there is a change in mplayer svn (carefull my up is only 2mb/s). http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.dev.gta/ipk/armv4t/ > > Martin Jansa wrote: > > > > I should try intone-video or some other gui instead of using mplayer > > from terminal :) > > > Intone-video has some issues - since the standard mplayer is slow but > supports setting window sizes and location with the -geometry flag. > The glamo patched one is faster but doesn't support window settings. The > window covers the slipshelf and leaves odd artifacts after exit. So > development is kinda stalled. If that is because patched one was based on older mplayer code than standard, then this one should work again. > Can you help? I can try. > Actually we need a single optimised build of mplayer that has all the > relevant patches (tremor / glamo and some that I might have missed). From my measurement no tremor patch needed see my comment in http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/437 All 3 implementations of low accuracy integer based Tremor performed quite the same (much better than libogg decoder using floating point), so it doesn't matter which one is used as far as user sets Tremor as preferred ogg decoder with -ac parameter (when there are both decoders in mplayer enabled). -- uin:136542059 jid:Martin.Jansa at gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jamasip at voip.wengo.fr JaMa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After some discussion we > > >> reverted the offending patch and now the latest SHR kernel should provide > > >> the same level of stability as .28. > > >> > > >> Please try again and report the results. > > > > > > I'm not sure but latest SHR kernel seems to be > > > 2d158aae9d8d36f575504f59884ed8e80802efe2, and that does not include > > > the wifi revert. > > > > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.29-rc3_2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5_om-gta02.ipk > > > > opkg update && opkg upgrade should deliver it automatically. > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth! From helge.hafting at hist.no Fri Sep 4 15:40:11 2009 From: helge.hafting at hist.no (Helge Hafting) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:40:11 +0200 Subject: Nokia N900 In-Reply-To: <416e897e0909010243m589702b7m36381951840acabc@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480908290630h1188ec5dl313340f842483173@mail.gmail.com> <200908291744.04819@blacky.localdomain> <359c5480908311000n24bd3bafpb02660119aee8bac@mail.gmail.com> <20090831174256.GC13848@roque.1407.org> <416e897e0908311852r2c326667w2f190e7e59c0783a@mail.gmail.com> <20090901084504.GA31555@roque.1407.org> <4A9CE1A7.8020900@djdas.net> <416e897e0909010243m589702b7m36381951840acabc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AA118BB.1010708@hist.no> yangm wrote: > I agree, > > I think Nokia don't care the driver code is open or close, because it's > not the value of nokia, > Maybe it's chipset productor's value. Maybe the operator required. > > Anyway, if you don't plan update update the drvier, you need not care it. > I may very well want to upgrade the *kernel*. With that, I need every driver as well. If they aren't provided because they aren't open and Nokia didn't bother with some new kernel release . . . :-( "Ordinary users" gets this sort of problem too, merely some time later than the power users. "Want this interesting piece of software? It needs some new ALSA functionality of 2.6.3x." Plenty of people might be interesting in making that kernel. Some will even package it in some user-friendly package management system. But they can't - because of proprietary concerns. And so the end-user misses opportunities. Helge Hafting From tingox at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 15:45:27 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:45:27 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working? Message-ID: I just installed QtMoko ("v8"). Wow - very nice! One question: is wiFi (wireless networking) working? If so, how do I turn it on? I have lookd in menus, but can't seem to find it. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/eb231f62/attachment.htm From tingox at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 15:54:18 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:54:18 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - i there a gps application included? Message-ID: QtMoko: one other question: is there a gps application included? I did try to start tangoGPS (though something called "OX"), but it just seems to unstable to use. It quits all the time. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/0320c56d/attachment.htm From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 16:13:28 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:13:28 +0200 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <359c5480909040713p77145f04o5f4a65243a6d8904@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: > Nicola Mfb writes: >> I built a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8 and commented the HTC >> line suggested in your patch > > Oh no! We reverted Werner's patch and with that nothing should be > commented, it should work as is. And yes, you're building > andy-tracking HEAD, that's right revision. Damn me! looking in the images directory and stucked in the old duscussion ;) reflashed again and upgraded to be sure to use the last kernel: opkg list_installed |grep "kernel ": kernel - 2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5 - rebooted and tryied with nwa, starting and quitting about 4/5 times resulted in: [ 692.365000] BMI Get Target Info: Exit (ver: 0x20000059 type: 0x1) [ 692.365000] eth0 (sdio_ar6000): not using net_device_ops yet [ 692.425000] AR6000 Reg Code = 0x40000060 [ 715.780000] mmc1: card 0001 removed [ 715.820000] ar6000_wow interrupt [ 715.985000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: powered down. [ 715.985000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: powered down. [ 719.815000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: host detect has no irq available [ 719.815000] mapped channel 0 to 0 [ 719.955000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: powered down. [ 719.955000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 0kHz (requested: 0kHz). [ 719.955000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 196kHz (requested: 195kHz). [ 719.960000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 196kHz (requested: 195kHz). [ 719.965000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: initialisation done. [ 719.970000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 196kHz (requested: 195kHz). [ 719.980000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 196kHz (requested: 195kHz). [ 719.995000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 196kHz (requested: 195kHz). [ 720.005000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x01 length 3 [ 720.065000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x1a length 5 [ 720.085000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x1b length 8 [ 720.085000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 25000kHz (requested: 25000kHz). [ 720.085000] s3c2440-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 25000kHz (requested: 25000kHz). [ 720.095000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x80 length 1 [ 720.095000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x81 length 1 [ 720.095000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x82 length 1 [ 720.095000] mmc1: new SDIO card at address 0001 [ 721.140000] BMI Get Target Info: Exit (ver: 0x20000059 type: 0x1) [ 721.160000] eth0 (sdio_ar6000): not using net_device_ops yet [ 721.225000] AR6000 Reg Code = 0x40000060 [ 743.610000] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0000002c [ 743.610000] pgd = c6f00000 [ 743.615000] [0000002c] *pgd=36d3e031, *pte=00000000, *ppte=00000000 [ 743.620000] Internal error: Oops: 17 [#1] PREEMPT [ 743.620000] Modules linked in: sco bnep ar6000 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_s3c24xx_i2s snd_soc_s3c24xx s3cmci btusb rfcomm ppp_generic slhc ohci_hcd ipv6 hidp snd_soc_wm8753 l2cap snd_soc_core bluetooth snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc g_ether snd [ 743.620000] CPU: 0 Not tainted (2.6.29-rc3 #1) [ 743.620000] PC is at wmi_cmd_send+0x8c/0xb4 [ar6000] [ 743.620000] LR is at wmi_cmd_send+0x54/0xb4 [ar6000] [ 743.620000] pc : [] lr : [] psr: 80000013 [ 743.620000] sp : c6de9d38 ip : c6de9d38 fp : c6de9d54 [ 743.620000] r10: c6d02000 r9 : 00000000 r8 : 00000000 [ 743.620000] r7 : 00000000 r6 : 00000000 r5 : c6fbec20 r4 : 00000009 [ 743.620000] r3 : 00000000 r2 : 00000000 r1 : c6fbec20 r0 : c7ac8282 [ 743.620000] Flags: Nzcv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 ISA ARM Segment user [ 743.620000] Control: c000717f Table: 36f00000 DAC: 00000015 [ 743.620000] Process wpa_supplicant (pid: 1300, stack limit = 0xc6de8268) [ 743.620000] Stack: (0xc6de9d38 to 0xc6dea000) [ 743.620000] 9d20: c7ac8284 00000000 [ 743.620000] 9d40: c6fbec20 00000000 c6de9d7c c6de9d58 bf14f114 bf14ccbc c0058cb4 00000000 [ 743.620000] 9d60: c6de8000 c6ffa460 00000000 00000000 c6de9dbc c6de9d80 bf145bdc bf14f098 [ 743.620000] 9d80: 00000064 000000cd 60000013 00000000 c6d788e0 c0058b90 c6de9d98 c6de9d98 [ 743.620000] 9da0: c6de9e90 0000013c c02bd2d4 00008b18 c6de9e24 c6de9dc0 c0292238 bf145ad0 [ 743.620000] 9dc0: 00000001 c6de9e34 c6ffa000 00000000 c6de9e0c 22222222 22222222 22222222 [ 743.620000] 9de0: 22222222 22222222 c6de9e0c 00008b18 c6de9e80 c08f9f50 c6de9e24 00008b18 [ 743.620000] 9e00: c6de9e80 c08f9f50 bed4dbd8 00000000 c6de8000 00000000 c6de9e5c c6de9e28 [ 743.620000] 9e20: c0291c28 c0291fbc bf145ac0 c6de9e38 c6de9e4c 00008b18 c00630b8 00000000 [ 743.620000] 9e40: 00008b18 bed4dbd8 c6de9e80 c08f9f50 c6de9ed4 c6de9e60 c0220910 c0291b04 [ 743.620000] 9e60: 60000013 c6de9f78 c6de9e9c c6de9e78 c00662f4 c0062c40 c6de9eb4 c76963b8 [ 743.620000] 9e80: 30687465 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 [ 743.620000] 9ea0: 00000000 c7690610 c6de9ed4 c6ce6440 00008b18 bed4dbd8 bed4dbd8 c0029fc4 [ 743.620000] 9ec0: c6de8000 bed4dbd8 c6de9ef4 c6de9ed8 c0210470 c0220274 00000000 c6ce6440 [ 743.620000] 9ee0: bed4dbd8 00008b18 c6de9f14 c6de9ef8 c00aa654 c021026c c6de9df8 c6ce6440 [ 743.620000] 9f00: c40c7a08 00008b18 c6de9f7c c6de9f18 c00aaccc c00aa628 00000000 bed4dca8 [ 743.620000] 9f20: c6de8000 00055ac8 00055bd8 00055b50 c6de9fa4 c6de9f40 c00ac750 c00ac278 [ 743.620000] 9f40: c6de9f70 c6de9f50 c6de9f7c c6de9f58 c002d53c c0038818 c6ce6440 fffffff7 [ 743.620000] 9f60: 00008b18 00000036 c0029fc4 bed4dbd8 c6de9fa4 c6de9f80 c00aad80 c00aa7cc [ 743.620000] 9f80: 4aa11fca 00000000 0000008e 00000000 00000000 00053f80 00000000 c6de9fa8 [ 743.620000] 9fa0: c0029e40 c00aad50 00000000 00000000 00000006 00008b18 bed4dbd8 00000000 [ 743.620000] 9fc0: 00000000 00000000 00053f80 00000036 00000000 00000000 bed4dbd8 00000000 [ 743.620000] 9fe0: 00000000 bed4da90 00038ed8 4023de2c 60000010 00000006 00000000 00000000 [ 743.620000] Backtrace: [ 743.620000] [] (wmi_cmd_send+0x0/0xb4 [ar6000]) from [] (wmi_bssfilter_cmd+0x8c/0x98 [ar6000]) [ 743.620000] r7:00000000 r6:c6fbec20 r5:00000000 r4:c7ac8284 [ 743.620000] [] (wmi_bssfilter_cmd+0x0/0x98 [ar6000]) from [] (ar6000_ioctl_siwscan+0x11c/0x148 [ar6000]) [ 743.620000] r8:00000000 r7:00000000 r6:c6ffa460 r5:c6de8000 r4:00000000 [ 743.620000] [] (ar6000_ioctl_siwscan+0x0/0x148 [ar6000]) from [] (ioctl_standard_call+0x28c/0x3a8) [ 743.620000] r7:00008b18 r6:c02bd2d4 r5:0000013c r4:c6de9e90 [ 743.620000] [] (ioctl_standard_call+0x0/0x3a8) from [] (wext_handle_ioctl+0x134/0x228) [ 743.620000] [] (wext_handle_ioctl+0x0/0x228) from [] (dev_ioctl+0x6ac/0x730) [ 743.620000] r8:c08f9f50 r7:c6de9e80 r6:bed4dbd8 r5:00008b18 r4:00000000 [ 743.620000] [] (dev_ioctl+0x0/0x730) from [] (sock_ioctl+0x214/0x254) [ 743.620000] [] (sock_ioctl+0x0/0x254) from [] (vfs_ioctl+0x3c/0x9c) [ 743.620000] r6:00008b18 r5:bed4dbd8 r4:c6ce6440 [ 743.620000] [] (vfs_ioctl+0x0/0x9c) from [] (do_vfs_ioctl+0x510/0x584) [ 743.620000] r6:00008b18 r5:c40c7a08 r4:c6ce6440 [ 743.620000] [] (do_vfs_ioctl+0x0/0x584) from [] (sys_ioctl+0x40/0x60) [ 743.620000] [] (sys_ioctl+0x0/0x60) from [] (ret_fast_syscall+0x0/0x2c) [ 743.620000] r6:00053f80 r5:00000000 r4:00000000 [ 743.620000] Code: e1a01005 ebffff59 e3a02001 e1a01005 (e597002c) [ 743.635000] ---[ end trace 2edd52073bb1887b ]--- Nicola From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 16:50:02 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:50:02 +0200 Subject: My new possession: Lyrics and vocabulary learning with intone Message-ID: Dear list, I thought I share my newest hobby using the Freerunner. I downloaded lyrics to my musics automatically[1], and when I listen to the music, I mark the words, which I dont know, and later I download them from wiktionary.com with the pronounced .ogg file. And I put them into a 'dict' directory like: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15122 Sep 3 18:41 assured.ogg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 368 Sep 3 18:44 assured.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12086 Sep 3 18:41 hound.ogg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1464 Sep 3 18:41 hound.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12443 Sep 3 18:41 possession.ogg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 316 Sep 3 18:41 possession.txt For learning the vocabulary, I select the 'dict' folder from the folders/playlist, and I hear again, and again the words until I memorized enough. In the lyrics view I have the definition of all words. Later, when I learned more or less the words, I put newlines into the definition, so I only see the word (what is pronounced), but I need to scroll for the definition. Thats way I only check the words, which I forgot. I think Freerunner became an ideal language learning platform. c_c wrote: > Can you send me a link - or put up the script on Intone's wiki page. Th > should help people. Ok, here is my quick&dirty script. Feel free to contribute, and make the script better. It works for me(TM). It has problems, if the lyrics contain utf8 char (example: dash), it fails to download. It happened 12 times from 500 music files. So I didnt care to fix it. 1. Download lyric: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lyricwiki/0.1.9 2. Put into a dir and make the 'lyrics_downloader' variable accordingly. 3. Save the script into the same dir as your downloadable music files are. call the script with no argument. Hope it is useful to someone. Best regards, Laszlo #! /usr/bin/python import os import subprocess lyrics_downloader = '/home/looser/Desktop/down/lyrics' def extract_keywords(filename): keywords = filename.replace('0', '') keywords = keywords.replace('1', '') keywords = keywords.replace('2', '') keywords = keywords.replace('3', '') keywords = keywords.replace('4', '') keywords = keywords.replace('5', '') keywords = keywords.replace('6', '') keywords = keywords.replace('7', '') keywords = keywords.replace('8', '') keywords = keywords.replace('9', '') keywords = keywords.replace('&', '') keywords = keywords.replace(' - ', ' ') keywords = keywords.strip() return keywords def dump_to_file(keywords, filename): global lyrics_downloader res = subprocess.Popen([lyrics_downloader, keywords], stdout = subprocess.PIPE) result = res.stdout.read() fd = open(filename+'.txt', 'w') fd.write(result) fd.close() return for root, dirs, files in os.walk('.'): for file in files: j = file.rfind('.mp3') filename = file[:j] keywords = extract_keywords(filename) print filename, ":", keywords dump_to_file(keywords, filename) From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 16:52:17 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:52:17 +0200 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:45 PM, The Digital Pioneer wrote: > Well, I'm not really planning to buy another one. I enjoyed playing with it > while I had it, but now I really just want something that works, works well, > and keeps working. :( > Thats rather sad. You have made some very useful contributions.... Laszlo From digitalpioneer at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 16:54:32 2009 From: digitalpioneer at gmail.com (The Digital Pioneer) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:54:32 -0500 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20090904133420.GC3046@jama> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904123225.GB3046@jama> <1252068512670-3579709.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904133420.GC3046@jama> Message-ID: <1252076929366-3580545.post@n2.nabble.com> Martin Jansa wrote: > > You can download svn snapshot from today here: > http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk > > Or when desktop at home is running then there will updated build every > day, if there is a change in mplayer svn (carefull my up is only 2mb/s). > http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.dev.gta/ipk/armv4t/ > i tried your binary and it is working with standard shr-unstable, thanks! audio and video (glamo) are working and in sync, so the problems were connected to the old mplayer code. cpu load is around 30 %. but unfortunately something changed in the glamo code. the video output now has many big artifacts with "-av glamo". this was not the case with the old mplayer-glamo from http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2 btw, seems to be a good community here. i got my neo a week ago and actually a lot is working already ;) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3580545.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From tanuva at googlemail.com Fri Sep 4 17:26:43 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:26:43 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli misses tichy Message-ID: <1252078003.7382.36.camel@d-wwow> Moin, I have installed paroli on an upgraded SHR 09-08-08 image and disabled ophonekitd as Angus wrote in some mail. Trying to start paroli, it cannot find tichy: root at d-a318 ~ $ paroli --launch Paroli-Launcher2 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/paroli", line 41, in import tichy ImportError: No module named tichy What's wrong here? Paroli is built on top of tichy, but weren't both in the same package? -- Marcel From kazer at altern.org Fri Sep 4 17:27:07 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> c_c wrote: > > You need to change the message domain to sqlite-messages to use the > opimd services. Please do that and retry. > In fact try it with this binary. > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566595/launcher launcher This has a couple of > fixes to prevent segfaults on some conditions like this. > Thanks. > I tried to reply a message and got the following issue : Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError - Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py", line 702, in _message_cb retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py", line 975, in Add if not PIMB_CAN_ADD_ENTRY in backend.properties: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'properties' Segmentation fault messages_default_backend is set to SQLite-Messages. Do i need a particular minimal version of the framework? i'm a bit behind the latest updates. Otherwise i'll try to update and see if it fixes the issue. Also, i have a suggestion about messages : would it be possible to display the message list from the bottom? I mean, the messages are well ordered, but it would be better to display the latest, in the bottom like it is, but with the view scrolled to the bottom of the list.. Otherwise you have to scroll down to the bottom when you want to read the latest one. I hope it's clear :) BTW, thanks for this another useful program. I'm quite impressed by the contact list (which is eventually usable thanks to its jump feature) and the messaging app (with its sorted messages). -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3580667.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kazer at altern.org Fri Sep 4 17:31:57 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:31:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252078317507-3580699.post@n2.nabble.com> Ah, forget my previous segfault report, i had a typo (-message instead of Message) in frameworkd.conf, now it works. But i have another suggestion : when replying, the view should be refreshed to display the last message as being sent, it's not obvious currently. Anyway, kudos! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3580699.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jdowdster at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 17:32:50 2009 From: jdowdster at gmail.com (John Dowd) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:32:50 -0400 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... Message-ID: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> I need to setup the Openmoko phone to use a wireless (WPA2 encryption) connection so that I can then use a SIP phone application to connect to a AP that runs Asterisk. I have the AP system in place and in fact I've been able to configure the Neo using the older om2008 load to set this up and I could demonstrate it working. That was much earlier this year. The system has been sent back to me to make it more robust and consistent. The previous system was very hard to get working. The biggest problem was that the dhcp client (Busybox udhcpc) would most often just ignore the response to it's DHCPDISCOVER message sent by the AP. It would accept it eventually but with a boardroom full of customers, telling them that it would connect eventually doesn't seem to mean much to them. I just recently replaced the udhcpc application with the dhclient application and this worked much better. I would like to do this demo using the more recent SHR loads since the om2008 series seems to be abandoned. I have a few issues and I'm wondering if someone knows how to get around them. I've put the lastest stable load of SHR on. I have been able to get the wireless to work by modifying the various wpa_supplicant and init.d files by hand but, the phone comes up without the wireless chip turned on so I have to go into the settings application and actually turn it on. It's not persistent. I then have to run my init script and then it connects (I can see the wpa handshaking being done on my AP). However the DHCP client "dhclient" doesn't appear to be available under SHR and I have to fall back to busybox's udhcpc. It just doesn't seem to work. According to the SHR project page, I could use Mokonnect to configure all of this but it's not available to the stable version and I tried to load the unstable package but it gives me startup errors and then gacks. I've tried to put a unstable SHR load on the Neo but then I run into all sorts of incompatibility issues and I get things like the usb0 interface is unavailable and I therefore can't then get at the Neo to fix things. Is there a magic combination here that I can put together so that I can use the wireless interface with the SHR load? I'll deal with the SIP phone application after I get this up and running. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/522e87b0/attachment-0001.pgp From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Fri Sep 4 17:56:51 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:56:51 +0200 Subject: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus In-Reply-To: References: <4AA0CDD6.40804@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <4AA138C3.9050800@wollishausen.de> jeremy jozwik schrieb: > do you have a file name? or is it *.db? i ask because that folder is empty. > ok, i assume that you are using shr unstable. for that i can say this: it was /var/db/phonelog.db, but if you do'nt have this, it is probably another problem. The databases for the calls in the newer versions is now in /etc/freesmartphone/opim/sqlite-calls.db did you already start your pyphonelog on the commandline? /usr/bin/phonelog ... maybe the output can say something about the error. or if you arent able to do this, you have a log in /tmp/x.log and one more time :-)) the suggestion to upgrade: # opkg update ; opkg upgrade -- Matzehuber From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 18:15:08 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 18:15:08 +0200 Subject: My new possession: Lyrics and vocabulary learning with intone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > I thought I share my newest hobby using the Freerunner. > I downloaded lyrics to my musics automatically[1] I also searched for a solution how to download cover art automatically from the web. In the exaile music player in plugins/amazoncovers directory there is a good and simple downloader written in python. It autodownloads covers from amazon.com. I think with a work like 2-3 hours, it could be adapted to our needs. Anybody brave enough to try? Laszlo From desnotes at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 18:20:41 2009 From: desnotes at gmail.com (Michael Fisher) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:20:41 -0400 Subject: FR for Sale BlowOut @ $150 Message-ID: <3461d5200909040920j9ae8343ta3393527b5509d28@mail.gmail.com> I am selling my second FreeRunner. I am willing to sell it for $150 to give someone the chance to get involved and work with the free software and hardware. If there is no interest through the weekend, I'll use it as a WiFi remote, mp3 and/or video player. It's in near perfect condition, essentially no use and when I did try it out there was no noise during calls. I'm also including a GPS Antenna which plugs into the side. Get it now! GTA02 S/N 8A8604098 -Foreign adapters - Wall charger - USB cable - 2Gb Memory card -Extra battery -Pouch -Original Box -GPS Antenna $150 PayPal Will ship free anywhere in the continental US -- Michael Fisher desNotes at gmail.com Sent from Tampa, Florida, United States -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/81497596/attachment.htm From cchandel at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 18:30:21 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:30:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, KaZeR wrote: > > but with the view scrolled to the bottom of the list. > Sure. Will implement it by this weekend. Actually, I'm a little stuck since there is an issue in getting messages from opimd with the latest updates. SMS is broken as of now - I was in the middle of adding CSM support when this happened. KaZeR wrote: > > BTW, thanks for this another useful program. I'm quite impressed by the > contact list (which is eventually usable thanks to its jump feature) and > the messaging app (with its sorted messages). > You're welcome. I'm just starting as of now. Have a lot of ideas for the contacts app too that I will implement in a few days. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3581056.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From KichKasch at gmx.de Fri Sep 4 18:56:01 2009 From: KichKasch at gmx.de (Michael Pilgermann) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:56:01 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090904165601.265620@gmx.net> Hi Nicola, I am currently not at home - I guess it is a problem of selection of fields (for PISI) in opimd - actually we were discussing this before on this list here. As soon as I have come back home (beginning of next week) I will check on this ... Greetings Michael -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 05:43:50 +0200 > Von: Nicola Mfb > An: community at lists.openmoko.org > Betreff: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field > Hi! > I just tried to transfer the addressbook from my Nokia N70 to opimd. > As PISI does not support obex/syncml via bt I used msynctool to sync > with Evolution. > Finally I transfered the evolution vcf exported file on the freerunner > and used PISI to sync it with opimd. > The result was that only sim contacts have the phone field. I tested > that with opimd gui, cli utils and litephone. > However it's not an opimd problem as using PISI to sync the same vcf > with google contacts results in the same problem. > > PISI is 0.4.5, shr is unstable lite 08/08 updated and upgraded before > trying pisi. > > Here some lines from the vcf file: > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:3.0 > UID:pas-id-4A9F1EF500000120 > X-EVOLUTION-FILE-AS:XXXX\, XXXX > FN:XXXX XXXX > N:XXXX;XXXX;;; > REV:20090627T221844Z > TEL;TYPE=CELL:XXXXXXXXXX > END:VCARD > > Regards > > Nicola > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From dscaini at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 19:04:51 2009 From: dscaini at gmail.com (Davide Scaini) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 19:04:51 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: <20090904165601.265620@gmx.net> References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> <20090904165601.265620@gmx.net> Message-ID: <18db98c80909041004r31055cc8w9a9f5fc9e410f06a@mail.gmail.com> BTW, I'm interested in porting my contacts from a nokia n70 to the fr... d On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Michael Pilgermann wrote: > Hi Nicola, > > I am currently not at home - I guess it is a problem of selection of fields > (for PISI) in opimd - actually we were discussing this before on this list > here. > > As soon as I have come back home (beginning of next week) I will check on > this ... > > Greetings > Michael > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 05:43:50 +0200 > > Von: Nicola Mfb > > An: community at lists.openmoko.org > > Betreff: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field > > > Hi! > > I just tried to transfer the addressbook from my Nokia N70 to opimd. > > As PISI does not support obex/syncml via bt I used msynctool to sync > > with Evolution. > > Finally I transfered the evolution vcf exported file on the freerunner > > and used PISI to sync it with opimd. > > The result was that only sim contacts have the phone field. I tested > > that with opimd gui, cli utils and litephone. > > However it's not an opimd problem as using PISI to sync the same vcf > > with google contacts results in the same problem. > > > > PISI is 0.4.5, shr is unstable lite 08/08 updated and upgraded before > > trying pisi. > > > > Here some lines from the vcf file: > > > > BEGIN:VCARD > > VERSION:3.0 > > UID:pas-id-4A9F1EF500000120 > > X-EVOLUTION-FILE-AS:XXXX\, XXXX > > FN:XXXX XXXX > > N:XXXX;XXXX;;; > > REV:20090627T221844Z > > TEL;TYPE=CELL:XXXXXXXXXX > > END:VCARD > > > > Regards > > > > Nicola > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community at lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/eddd8c73/attachment.htm From evadim at evadim.ru Fri Sep 4 20:12:59 2009 From: evadim at evadim.ru (Vadim, Efimov) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:12:59 +0400 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:43:50 +0400, Nicola Mfb wrote: > Hi! > I just tried to transfer the addressbook from my Nokia N70 to opimd. > As PISI does not support obex/syncml via bt I used msynctool to sync > with Evolution. > Finally I transfered the evolution vcf exported file on the freerunner > and used PISI to sync it with opimd. > The result was that only sim contacts have the phone field. I tested > that with opimd gui, cli utils and litephone. > However it's not an opimd problem as using PISI to sync the same vcf > with google contacts results in the same problem. > > PISI is 0.4.5, shr is unstable lite 08/08 updated and upgraded before > trying pisi. > > Here some lines from the vcf file: > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:3.0 > UID:pas-id-4A9F1EF500000120 > X-EVOLUTION-FILE-AS:XXXX\, XXXX > FN:XXXX XXXX > N:XXXX;XXXX;;; > REV:20090627T221844Z > TEL;TYPE=CELL:XXXXXXXXXX > END:VCARD > > Regards > > Nicola > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Recently i tried to migrate my contacts too (via KDE Adressbook) and found that PISI export only FAX fields. I created few contacts in FR directly, and export it to vcf. PISI prefixed all numbers with "VOICE" flag: BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:3.0 FN:Vadim N:Efimov;Vadim;;; TEL;TYPE=CELL,VOICE:+71234567890 END:VCARD so, i add VOICE prefix to all fields and try again, it imported ok, except field what don't have TYPE flag ("other" number in my SE 810i) TYPE=VOICE also don't help... From undrwater at verizon.net Fri Sep 4 20:16:48 2009 From: undrwater at verizon.net (Russell Dwiggins) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:16:48 -0700 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <7557131D0E1C4BF38CAFD335DA888EA7@felix> |Agreed. Not exactly unusable. I imagine if somebody is constantly |using only headset (i can actually imagine that, yes ;) ), it works |ok, one just needs to reestablish connection after resume and that's |easy to automate. But other than that, well... Where does one automate that? I've got a script that I put a .desktop file to get it started again after suspend, but incoming calls don't start Bluetooth. [Russell Dwiggins] From psonek2 at seznam.cz Fri Sep 4 20:19:52 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:19:52 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252088393.3683.2.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > One question: is wiFi (wireless networking) working? > If so, how do I turn it on? > I have lookd in menus, but can't seem to find it. It's in Main Menu->Settings->Internet->Menu->New->Wireless LAN But currently for me scanning does not work so that i have to enter essid manually. Otherwise command line works just fine: iwlist scan iwconfig eth0 essid type_your_essid_here udhcpc eth0 Regards Radek From digitalpioneer at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 20:23:03 2009 From: digitalpioneer at gmail.com (The Digital Pioneer) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:23:03 -0500 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, but I kinda need a screen for that. :P -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/5c406a83/attachment.htm From psonek2 at seznam.cz Fri Sep 4 20:23:49 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:23:49 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - i there a gps application included? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252088629.3683.6.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > QtMoko: one other question: is there a gps application included? > > I did try to start tangoGPS (though something called "OX"), but it > just seems to unstable to use. It quits all the time. Hmm this is strange, because it works for me and some other people. But it's known problem, that there is not much memory left for X applications. Having swap on /dev/mmcblk0p4 could help. There was also more memory free with newer 2.6.30 kernel, but the support for this kernel is not complete yet. Regards Radek From fredrik.normann.junk at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 20:49:38 2009 From: fredrik.normann.junk at gmail.com (fredrik normann) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:49:38 +0200 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: don't you have ssh access? you can still do fun stuff with the FR even if you don't have a screen, and with time maybe you'll find a screen that fits for a nice price. In the mean time you use the Nokia 1208 to send sms and call friends and family :) -f- On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM, The Digital Pioneer < digitalpioneer at gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, but I kinda need a screen for that. :P > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/5f8fa96e/attachment.htm From christian at exinto.de Fri Sep 4 21:47:15 2009 From: christian at exinto.de (Christian) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:47:15 +0200 Subject: Vibetime Message-ID: <4AA16EC3.4010205@exinto.de> Vibetime is a shell script that tells the current time using the vibrator. The idea is that you can activate the script while the Freerunner is in your pocket (via some hardware button) and you know the time without looking at the screen or taking it out of your pocket. The vibe scheme is as follows: First there are between 1 and 12 "vibes" depending on the current hour, then there is a short pause and after that between 1 and 4 "vibes" depending on the quarter of the hour (4 meaning between 0 and 15 minutes). Please extend this script if you like it! An idea someone could perhaps implement: The application could be activated by "tapping" the freerunner twice (registered via the accelerometers). This could perhaps be possible using wake-on-accelerometers... By the way: I thought about this application already some years ago when I got my first symbian phone. Of course, such an application was not possible at that time. Now it is just a small shell script you can write in some minutes! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: vibetime.sh Type: application/x-sh Size: 568 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/d70dbc29/attachment.sh From fercerpav at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 21:52:41 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:52:41 +0400 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> (John Dowd's message of "Fri\, 4 Sep 2009 11\:32\:50 -0400") References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: John Dowd writes: > Is there a magic combination here that I can put together so that I can use > the wireless interface with the SHR load? The latest unstable SHR; then opkg update && opkg upgrade; then please read FSO_resources wikipage. SHR testing is basically an unsupported snapshot. HTH -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From fercerpav at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 22:07:25 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 00:07:25 +0400 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: <359c5480909040713p77145f04o5f4a65243a6d8904@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> <359c5480909040713p77145f04o5f4a65243a6d8904@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090904200725.GK27370@home.pavel.comp> Hi, Thanks for the feedback. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 04:13:28PM +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote: > > Nicola Mfb writes: > >> I built a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8 and commented the HTC > >> line suggested in your patch > > andy-tracking HEAD, that's right revision. ... > rebooted and tryied with nwa, starting and quitting about 4/5 times resulted in: ... > [ 743.620000] Backtrace: > [ 743.620000] [] (wmi_cmd_send+0x0/0xb4 [ar6000]) from > [] (wmi_bssfilter_cmd+0x8c/0x98 [ar6000]) > [ 743.620000] r7:00000000 r6:c6fbec20 r5:00000000 r4:c7ac8284 > [ 743.620000] [] (wmi_bssfilter_cmd+0x0/0x98 [ar6000]) from > [] (ar6000_ioctl_siwscan+0x11c/0x148 [ar6000]) Quite interesting indeed. Can you possibly provide a way to reproduce it without nwa using some bash or minimal python script? Can you confirm it's a regression and if yes, in which version it did work without issues? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From solar.george at googlemail.com Fri Sep 4 22:23:51 2009 From: solar.george at googlemail.com (George Brooke) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:23:51 +0100 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909042123.56069.solar.george@googlemail.com> On Friday 04 September 2009 16:32:50 John Dowd wrote: > I would like to do this demo using the more recent SHR loads since the > om2008 series seems to be abandoned. I have a few issues and I'm wondering > if someone knows how to get around them. > > I've put the lastest stable load of SHR on. I have been able to get the > wireless to work by modifying the various wpa_supplicant and init.d files > by hand but, the phone comes up without the wireless chip turned on so I > have to go into the settings application and actually turn it on. It's not > persistent. I then have to run my init script and then it connects (I can > see the wpa handshaking being done on my AP). However the DHCP client > "dhclient" doesn't appear to be available under SHR and I have to fall back > to busybox's udhcpc. It just doesn't seem to work. According to the SHR > project page, I could use Mokonnect to configure all of this but it's not > available to the stable version and I tried to load the unstable package > but it gives me startup errors and then gacks. I've tried to put a unstable > SHR load on the Neo but then I run into all sorts of incompatibility issues > and I get things like the usb0 interface is unavailable and I therefore > can't then get at the Neo to fix things. usb0 should now be ethX just look in dmesg to see what number its taken. solar.george -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090904/0208d7b3/attachment-0001.pgp From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Fri Sep 4 23:59:43 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:59:43 +0200 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: <20090904200725.GK27370@home.pavel.comp> References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> <359c5480909040713p77145f04o5f4a65243a6d8904@mail.gmail.com> <20090904200725.GK27370@home.pavel.comp> Message-ID: <359c5480909041459w2bb5c683m2badfe19a30b4c08@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: [...] > Quite interesting indeed. Can you possibly provide a way to reproduce it > without nwa using some bash or minimal python script? Yes, I'll try with standard tools, anyway when nwa quits it remove eth0 from the list of interfaces managed by wpa_supplicant via a dbus call. I do not know exactly what wpa_supplicant does in such case, and as it happens only some times I just guess the driver goes in some race condition state. > Can you confirm it's a regression and if yes, in which version it did work > without issues? I cannot confirm, I always had problem in some ways. It may be only due the fact that as I developed nwa I stressed a lot wifi during time. Another hint is the wow interrupt, I noted it a lot of time, is it harmful? Regards Nicola From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 00:01:03 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 00:01:03 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli misses tichy In-Reply-To: <1252078003.7382.36.camel@d-wwow> References: <1252078003.7382.36.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: I miss paroli;) Looking at the paroli package, the tichy directory is not copied over. Do you know where can I find the .bb recipe for paroli and paroli-calculator? All the two needs fixing. Also would be nice to compare wiht om2009's .bb recipe. Best regards, Laszlo From meyerm-om01 at fs.tum.de Fri Sep 4 23:24:30 2009 From: meyerm-om01 at fs.tum.de (Marcel Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:24:30 +0200 Subject: QtMoko images V8 In-Reply-To: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: <200909042324.30801.meyerm-om01@fs.tum.de> Hi, Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Radek Polak: > So enjoy, tell me how you like it and if something does not work. I just tried the images and flashed kernel and rootfs successfully to my GTA02. Unfortunately it shows (approx.) the following errors, no matter if I insert a micro-sd-card or not: [0.0000] Unkown boot option g_ether.host_addr=SOMEMAC:ignoring [0.0000] Unkown boot option g_ether.dev_addr=SOMEMAC:ignoring [0.0000] Unkown boot option g_ether.host_addr=SOMEMAC:ignoring [0.0000] Unkown boot option g_ether.dev_addr=SOMEMAC:ignoring [big nr] INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=HUGENR./2000 jiffies) I once tried out android on this phone and had to reflash the boot loader. Booting with the "Backup-Uboot" does not bring the four wrong boot options, but also brings the last INFO-message. After some time it continues booting, however. So, how can I a) prevent this stall message and b) bring the current bootloader (Qi) to load the correct kernel from flash? Thanks! From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 00:03:39 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 00:03:39 +0200 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: <359c5480909041459w2bb5c683m2badfe19a30b4c08@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> <359c5480909040713p77145f04o5f4a65243a6d8904@mail.gmail.com> <20090904200725.GK27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909041459w2bb5c683m2badfe19a30b4c08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <359c5480909041503j58649ec1re32ec736a73ba634@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Nicola Mfb wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: > [...] [...] >> Can you confirm it's a regression and if yes, in which version it did work >> without issues? I forgot to say an important thing: thanks for your effort! Keep up the good work on the kernel, we really need it ;) Nicola From tanuva at googlemail.com Sat Sep 5 00:05:32 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:05:32 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli misses tichy In-Reply-To: References: <1252078003.7382.36.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <1252101932.13917.7.camel@d-wwow> Angus said somewhere that he wanted to fix a config file issue, I suppose he also has the current SHR recipe. Don't know if they're somewhere on the web though. Am Samstag, den 05.09.2009, 00:01 +0200 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: > I miss paroli;) > > Looking at the paroli package, the tichy directory is not copied over. > > Do you know where can I find the .bb recipe for paroli and > paroli-calculator? > All the two needs fixing. Also would be nice to compare wiht om2009's > .bb recipe. > > Best regards, > Laszlo > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From steven at le-roux.info Sat Sep 5 00:05:22 2009 From: steven at le-roux.info (Steven Le Roux) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 00:05:22 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli misses tichy In-Reply-To: References: <1252078003.7382.36.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <5f6db60d0909041505q5876f79cw664d7270033b1aa8@mail.gmail.com> It could be could to produce a SHR-U snapshot with paroli to try it out of the box and to quicky have a lot of tester. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Laszlo KREKACS < laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com> wrote: > I miss paroli;) > > Looking at the paroli package, the tichy directory is not copied over. > > Do you know where can I find the .bb recipe for paroli and > paroli-calculator? > All the two needs fixing. Also would be nice to compare wiht om2009's > .bb recipe. > > Best regards, > Laszlo > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : Steven at jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/dd66fd48/attachment.htm From greg at bonett.org Sat Sep 5 02:32:35 2009 From: greg at bonett.org (Greg Bonett) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:32:35 -0700 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes Message-ID: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> Hi there, I just installed SHR unstable and I'm impressed at how usable and responsive it is. However, while I was performing a opkg operation I ran out of memory so I tried to add a swap file. When following the instructions at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#SwapSpace I get the error: "swapon: /swapfile: Invalid argument" and dmesg shows: "swapon: swapfile has holes" I've tried files on the sd card and also on the internal memory. Any suggestions? Thanks. -Greg From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 04:10:57 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 04:10:57 +0200 Subject: [shr-unstable] Does mount nfs filesystem works Message-ID: Hi! Is there anybody who uses nfs mount in freerunner? I used to mount my laptop's dir on freerunner as described here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-developer-setup#Link_filesystem_of_the_freerunner_to_your_computer_with_NFS Now mount -t nfs just hangs on the freerunner using shr unstable. However I do not know, if it is really shr's problem, as I touched quit a bit my networking setup these days. Can anybody confirm if nfs mount or not on freerunner? Best regards, Laszlo From jerjoz.forums at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 06:14:02 2009 From: jerjoz.forums at gmail.com (jeremy jozwik) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:14:02 -0700 Subject: Vibetime In-Reply-To: <4AA16EC3.4010205@exinto.de> References: <4AA16EC3.4010205@exinto.de> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Christian wrote: > Vibetime is a shell script that tells the current time using the > vibrator. nice out of the box thinking. ill take a look at this one for sure From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 06:21:59 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:21:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252124519249-3583877.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, The Digital Pioneer wrote: > > Well, the irritating thing is, There is NOTHING a screenless FR can do > that > my laptop can't > Can it slow down code as the FR can ? ;-) It'll still be pretty Ok for building stuff for the embedded/phone world. And it's a matter of time before someone blows his FR up and tries to sell the screen. ;-p -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Broken-FR-for-sale-tp3550868p3583877.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jerjoz.forums at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 06:22:45 2009 From: jerjoz.forums at gmail.com (jeremy jozwik) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:22:45 -0700 Subject: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus In-Reply-To: <4AA138C3.9050800@wollishausen.de> References: <4AA0CDD6.40804@wollishausen.de> <4AA138C3.9050800@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Matthias Huber wrote: > ok, i assume that you are using shr unstable. for that i can say this: > it was /var/db/phonelog.db, but if you do'nt have this, it is probably > another problem. such as i gathered. no phonelog.db showing. > The databases for the calls in the newer versions is now in > /etc/freesmartphone/opim/sqlite-calls.db that file however does exist. illegible in nano, but there > did you already start your pyphonelog on the commandline? > /usr/bin/phonelog > ... maybe the output can say something about the error. > or if you arent able to do this, you have a log in /tmp/x.log yes, the only warning / messages i get are dbus connection warnings and list population notifications. nothing about any errors > and one more time :-)) the suggestion to upgrade: ive been runing opkg update upgrade consistently since flashing to 20090808 mid way through august. no such luck for getting a working phonelog as of yet. might i ask what version you are running and if it has a working phonelog. im wondering if its my freerunner, 20090808, or what that is the issue. [also i would like to limit the amount of re-flashing for obvious reasons.] From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 06:36:43 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:36:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <20090904133420.GC3046@jama> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904123225.GB3046@jama> <1252068512670-3579709.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904133420.GC3046@jama> Message-ID: <1252125403626-3583908.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Martin Jansa wrote: > > http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk > > Or when desktop at home is running then there will updated build every > day, if there is a change in mplayer svn (carefull my up is only 2mb/s). > http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.dev.gta/ipk/armv4t/ > Thanks. Will try it and post back. Martin Jansa wrote: > > As far as user sets Tremor as preferred ogg decoder with -ac > parameter. > How low is 'low accuracy'? And why do we need the floating point implementation if it kill as much as 50% cpu? Does this version need the -ac flag? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3583908.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From openmoko at rcie.de Sat Sep 5 06:38:46 2009 From: openmoko at rcie.de (Marc Bantle) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 06:38:46 +0200 Subject: [shr-unstable] Does mount nfs filesystem works In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AA1EB56.5030001@rcie.de> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: > Now mount -t nfs just hangs on the freerunner using > shr unstable. However I do not know, if it is really > shr's problem, as I touched quit a bit my networking > setup these days. > > Can anybody confirm if nfs mount or not on freerunner? Works here using mount from BusyBox V1.13.2 package and kernel/modules 2.6.29-oe11+gitr119839. Some months ago I had similar problems with mount binary from util-linux package IIRC. Cheers, Marc From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 06:43:06 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:43:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: My new possession: Lyrics and vocabulary learning with intone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252125786473-3583916.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Thanks for taking the effort to bring out another interesting usage for the FR. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > In the exaile music player in plugins/amazoncovers directory > there is a good and simple downloader written in python. > Interesting. I saw that rhythmbox has a similar solution - and there are some php scripts floatng around too. A standalone script ought to be ideal for something that might change often (links, service, names etc). Now for some (of the many ;-) python coders on these ML's to show some love! Frankly, my python is quite bad - but if no one else does this I will. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/My-new-possession-Lyrics-and-vocabulary-learning-with-intone-tp3580449p3583916.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From psonek2 at seznam.cz Sat Sep 5 08:35:02 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:35:02 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - help fixing incomming call bug Message-ID: <1252132502.3683.14.camel@rp-skunk> Hi, i am trying to fix the bug, when there is sometimes no sound in incoming call after reboot. My guess is that alsa scenario is not applied correctly in this case. The problem is that i cant reproduce this issue reliably - and when i want to debug it, it simply disappears. I'd appreciate if you could enable logging in: Main menu->Settings->Logging->Menu->Categories->AudioState and send me /var/log/messages when you hit the bug. Thanks Radek From mjt at nysv.org Sat Sep 5 08:50:46 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 09:50:46 +0300 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909020245g310303d5i4d88eed1f5276a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <20090831182539.GM28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909011909r2cc5f814tcdf6a91e7012d3e@mail.gmail.com> <20090902042442.GD28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909020245g310303d5i4d88eed1f5276a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090905065046.GO28624@nysv.org> On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:45:08AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >>>https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/ >> >> Hooray! > >Hi ssh+svn through a public key maybe is the most comfortable option, >so send me a private mail with user name do you want i and a public >key >to generate the key(Markus sure you know but maybe other willing to >colaborate and this aplies to anyone wanting to code on this) >on the pc you want to use your local svn clone >$ mkdir ~/.ssh/ >$ cd ~/.ssh/ >$ ssh-keygen -t dsa >and send to me the ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub I did it, but forgot to mention I'd like my username to be "mjt" :) >Yes surelly this will get out of the vcs soon, but maybe someone is >curiouse about structure or the info extracted from the repo so this >was a q&d to make it available for download, and ... what the hell !! >I was proud of the success and want to show it :P Sure thing :) Mil gracias! -- mjt From fercerpav at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 08:50:23 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:50:23 +0400 Subject: Wifi driver stability improved -- wrong patch reverted In-Reply-To: <359c5480909041459w2bb5c683m2badfe19a30b4c08@mail.gmail.com> (Nicola Mfb's message of "Fri\, 4 Sep 2009 23\:59\:43 +0200") References: <20090904110805.GJ27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909040443h7a5af7dn420c5781fc40db6@mail.gmail.com> <359c5480909040713p77145f04o5f4a65243a6d8904@mail.gmail.com> <20090904200725.GK27370@home.pavel.comp> <359c5480909041459w2bb5c683m2badfe19a30b4c08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nicola Mfb writes: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: >> Can you confirm it's a regression and if yes, in which version it did work >> without issues? > > I cannot confirm, I always had problem in some ways. > It may be only due the fact that as I developed nwa I stressed a lot > wifi during time. I see. Our main wifi-related goal currently is not to actually fix the driver, it's rather to bandaid it to avoid most easily reproducible races most of the time. I do not consider races with rfkill at all currently, i can't see why spend time on that since rfkill is redudant and useless in our case. > Another hint is the wow interrupt, I noted it a lot of time, is it > harmful? Probably it means only that an unpowered module was powered, i don't think that's something to worry about. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From psonek2 at seznam.cz Sat Sep 5 08:56:30 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:56:30 +0200 Subject: QtMoko images V8 In-Reply-To: <200909042324.30801.meyerm-om01@fs.tum.de> References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> <200909042324.30801.meyerm-om01@fs.tum.de> Message-ID: <1252133790.3683.22.camel@rp-skunk> Marcel Meyer wrote: > [0.0000] Unkown boot option g_ether.host_addr=SOMEMAC:ignoring > [0.0000] Unkown boot option g_ether.dev_addr=SOMEMAC:ignoring > [0.0000] Unkown boot option g_ether.host_addr=SOMEMAC:ignoring > [0.0000] Unkown boot option g_ether.dev_addr=SOMEMAC:ignoring Just warning - this can be safely ignored. > [big nr] INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=HUGENR./2000 jiffies) > I once tried out android on this phone and had to reflash the boot loader. Qi from koolu android images wont boot QtMoko. No idea why. > So, how can I a) prevent this stall message and b) bring the current > bootloader (Qi) to load the correct kernel from flash? Qi from this url works fine for me: http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu Regards Radek From fercerpav at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 09:12:29 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:12:29 +0400 Subject: QtMoko images V8 In-Reply-To: <1252133790.3683.22.camel@rp-skunk> (Radek Polak's message of "Sat\, 05 Sep 2009 08\:56\:30 +0200") References: <1251414525.22503.112.camel@rp-skunk> <200909042324.30801.meyerm-om01@fs.tum.de> <1252133790.3683.22.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: Radek Polak writes: > Qi from koolu android images wont boot QtMoko. No idea why. Because koolu folks forked Qi for no decent reason and without a word of warning! Probably they just didn't like mtd partitioning used but they should have put a big fat warning to make it clear. :( -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Sat Sep 5 09:16:50 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:16:50 +0200 Subject: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus In-Reply-To: References: <4AA0CDD6.40804@wollishausen.de> <4AA138C3.9050800@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <4AA21062.3020402@wollishausen.de> jeremy jozwik schrieb: > >> The databases for the calls in the newer versions is now in >> /etc/freesmartphone/opim/sqlite-calls.db >> > > that file however does exist. illegible in nano, but there > > it is a sqlite3 - database. you can install sqlite3 and show in it: # sqlite3 /etc/freesmartphone/opim/sqlite-calls.db .s select * from calls; select * from call_values; .quit @developers: By the way: where is the view gone whicht spreaded over both tables ? anyway: if you have there some values, its ok from the database. > might i ask what version you are running and if it has a working > phonelog. im wondering if its my freerunner, 20090808, or what that is > the issue. > [also i would like to limit the amount of re-flashing for obvious reasons.] > i did same as you without any hacks and modifications. did you look into your settings -> other -> domains -> calls ? -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/2f3e00d5/attachment.htm From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 10:34:29 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:34:29 +0200 Subject: [shr-unstable] Does mount nfs filesystem works In-Reply-To: <4AA1EB56.5030001@rcie.de> References: <4AA1EB56.5030001@rcie.de> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Marc Bantle wrote: >> Can anybody confirm if nfs mount or not on freerunner? Finally I could find my old uSD card, and restored om2009. IT works like a charm under om2009. > > Works here using mount from BusyBox V1.13.2 > package and kernel/modules 2.6.29-oe11+gitr119839. > > Some months ago I had similar problems with mount > binary from util-linux package IIRC. I installed util-linux package, but still mount -t nfs timeouts when I want to mount... > Cheers, > Marc Thx for your comment, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 10:44:21 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:44:21 +0200 Subject: My new possession: Lyrics and vocabulary learning with intone In-Reply-To: <1252125786473-3583916.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252125786473-3583916.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:43 AM, c_c wrote: > ?Now for some (of the many ;-) python coders on these ML's to show some > love! Frankly, my python is quite bad - but if no one else does this I will. If nobody else will step up, I can do it for some new features in intone in exchange;)) I have many small improvements suggestion;) Lets wait a week... Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 10:48:33 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:48:33 +0200 Subject: [shr-unstable] Does mount nfs filesystem works In-Reply-To: References: <4AA1EB56.5030001@rcie.de> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > Finally I could find my old uSD card, and restored om2009. > IT works like a charm under om2009. We are talking about a command like this: mount -t nfs 192.168.0.200:/home/lama/Asztal/down/openmoko/paroli /usr/share/nfs-paroli/ Best regards, Laszlo From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Sat Sep 5 10:57:32 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:57:32 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> Message-ID: <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> Greg Bonett schrieb: > Hi there, > I just installed SHR unstable and I'm impressed at how usable and > responsive it is. However, while I was performing a opkg operation I > ran out of memory so I tried to add a swap file. > When following the instructions at: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#SwapSpace > I get the error: > "swapon: /swapfile: Invalid argument" > and dmesg shows: > "swapon: swapfile has holes" > > I've tried files on the sd card and also on the internal memory. > Any suggestions? > > i could imagine, it must be at one extent, so you should try two things: * format your sdcard and make the swapfile on the newly created fs. *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap _partition_ also. From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 10:59:58 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 03:59:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: My new possession: Lyrics and vocabulary learning with intone In-Reply-To: References: <1252125786473-3583916.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252141198319-3584531.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > If nobody else will step up, I can do it for some new features in > intone in exchange;)) > I have many small improvements suggestion;) > > Lets wait a week... > Sure. np. But lets not wait for the improvements to intone. You're welcome anytime :-D -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/My-new-possession-Lyrics-and-vocabulary-learning-with-intone-tp3580449p3584531.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 11:01:17 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:01:17 +0200 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:54 PM, The Digital Pioneer wrote: > I have? Just the top of my head. Recently you made some useful remarks regarding to bluetooth headset usage. I think you was the first who used bluetooth headset seriously... If you have enough the freerunner. Just buy the cheapest phone for 10$. I expect you to return in a month or so. Seriously this highly costumizable phone is addictive! I think in a month freerunner will be in a very good shape. I expect KMS (for video), improved wifi, improved gprs, improved everything. I even want to have paroli a bit better shape running on shr. Regarding to what for is usable the freerunner: If you have an arduino, the possibility is endless. The most useful would be steal preventing in your car, ie you could track your card when stolen via sms. The second useful thing would be home automation. Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 11:05:34 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:05:34 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Matthias Huber wrote: > *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap > _partition_ also. I prefer the file over partition, because you can make bigger or shrink whenever you want. And giving a separate partition is just a luxury, when you can only create four (above that serious tweaking is necessary). Best regards, Laszlo From timo.lindfors at iki.fi Sat Sep 5 11:11:34 2009 From: timo.lindfors at iki.fi (Timo Juhani Lindfors) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:11:34 +0300 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> (Matthias Huber's message of "Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:57:32 +0200") References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <84vdjx21tl.fsf@sauna.l.org> Matthias Huber writes: > *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap > _partition_ also. What are the advantages of a swap partition? The only one I can think of is that it can be used for software suspend. From matthias.huber at wollishausen.de Sat Sep 5 11:45:24 2009 From: matthias.huber at wollishausen.de (Matthias Huber) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:45:24 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: <84vdjx21tl.fsf@sauna.l.org> References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> <84vdjx21tl.fsf@sauna.l.org> Message-ID: <4AA23334.4050105@wollishausen.de> Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: > Matthias Huber writes: > >> *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap >> _partition_ also. >> > > What are the advantages of a swap partition? The only one I can think > of is that it can be used for software suspend. > > afaik, it is much faster than file. -- MatzeHuber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/7d3f33ee/attachment.htm From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 12:03:00 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:03:00 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone Message-ID: Hi c_c! Here is my list, what I would like to see to be improved in intone: 1. In the song list, switch between filename/Artist/Song Title/Album view Because there are cases were filename is preferred over title, for example for precompiled hits, where the order is seen in the filename. Example: 001 - Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone.mp3 002 - Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction.mp3 003 - John Lennon - Imagine.mp3 2. Different ordering possibility, aka. improve the shuffle button The current play in order or play random should be improved: I never liked the random function, because you can predict what will be the next song: http://xkcd.com/221/ I would prefer a list manipulating button. Where you click on the button five different possibility button would appear: * Order by filename (as it does currently) * Order by album * Order by Artist * Order by Title * Shuffle the list * Party mode The Shuffle the list possibility would replace the current random button. It randomly reorder the list, but you can see what will be the next one. I think its superior solution. Party mode: You can interactively reorder the list. Like people come to you at a party, please put XY as the next song, please put a slow music next, etc, etc. Dunno how to solve interactivity in elementary, ie. drag and drop the list elements. Its not *that* important feature. 3. Improve the play once the list, play all button. A third state would be also useful: * play the list once * play infinity * play only the next song, and stop OR play one song infinitely So would be a three state button. Dunno if its really useful, and so which one. Others? (implement last;) 4. When adding new songs dir, should be a list view, where it lists all added dir, and could also remove add to it. (I already suggested it) 5. Implement minimal lyrics editor (MOST IMPORTANT;))) (I already suggested) Mark bold the current line, and a button, when the music is there I push the button, and it saves the time when it should jump to this line. It would be also really usefull as it could autoscroll the list. Currently I always need manually scroll the lyrics, and it has a drawback: if I dont follow the music, I need to search where the singer is. With autoscroll feature, I could always look at the view, and it would mark the current line for me. Timing is not an issue here, +- 1-4 sec has no importance. 6. Implement in the lyrics view zoom in and zoom out button I would consider this pretty important also. Not everybody has a good eyesight, and the text are small enough in the lyrics view. But my primary reason not this for suggestion. I select words in the lyrics, what i dont know for later look up in dictionary (read my recent mail with title 'My new possession....'). The current text is small enough, that selecting is really difficult. I would like to zoom in when I want to select the texts. With autoscrolling zoomed in would pose no problem, as it would always scrolling for me, so no need to see 11 lines all at once. The zoom in, zoom out buttons would fit nicely in lyrics view next to the current Artist name/Song title text. Zoomin on the right side, zoom out on the left side of the text. You could also hide those buttons, when switching back to cover view, list view. And no need to manipulate layers, as other views dont use this space at all. 7. Future idea: Implement effects for the music. I already suggested karaoke effect. Others said, the implementation is rather simple, you mix the left and right channel in the way it lowers the singer voice. By the way c_c, do you also need this layer manipulating demo program? HAve you difficulties implementing it? Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 12:04:05 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:04:05 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: <4AA23334.4050105@wollishausen.de> References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> <84vdjx21tl.fsf@sauna.l.org> <4AA23334.4050105@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Matthias Huber wrote: > afaik, it is much faster than file. Benchmark it!;) I think glamo is enough bottleneck to make all the two the same slowiness... But just guessing. Laszlo From david at garabana.com Sat Sep 5 12:13:03 2009 From: david at garabana.com (David Garabana Barro) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:13:03 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: <84vdjx21tl.fsf@sauna.l.org> References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> <84vdjx21tl.fsf@sauna.l.org> Message-ID: <200909051213.06770.david@garabana.com> O S?bado, 5 de Setembro de 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu: > Matthias Huber writes: > > *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap > > _partition_ also. > > What are the advantages of a swap partition? The only one I can think > of is that it can be used for software suspend. If you have more than a distro installed, you can use *the same* partition for all distros. You will only waste space onece ;) -- David Garabana Barro jabber & google talk ID: david at garabana.com Clave p?blica PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/575e39b7/attachment.pgp From david at garabana.com Sat Sep 5 12:14:39 2009 From: david at garabana.com (David Garabana Barro) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:14:39 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <200909051214.40042.david@garabana.com> O S?bado, 5 de Setembro de 2009, Laszlo KREKACS escribiu: > I prefer the file over partition, because you can make bigger or shrink > whenever you want. And giving a separate partition is just a luxury, when > you can only create four (above that serious tweaking is necessary). Four??? You can create up to 7: root at om-gta02 ~ $ fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7969 MB, 7969177600 bytes 246 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1020 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15252 * 512 = 7809024 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 6 45725 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p2 7 108 777852 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p3 109 313 1563330 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p4 314 1020 5391582 5 Extended /dev/mmcblk0p5 314 390 587171 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p6 391 994 4606073 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p7 995 1020 198245 82 Linux swap / Solaris -- David Garabana Barro jabber & google talk ID: david at garabana.com Clave p?blica PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/12ef7281/attachment.pgp From david at garabana.com Sat Sep 5 12:16:18 2009 From: david at garabana.com (David Garabana Barro) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:16:18 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200909051216.18605.david@garabana.com> O S?bado, 5 de Setembro de 2009, Laszlo KREKACS escribiu: > Hi c_c! > 7. Future idea: Implement effects for the music. > I already suggested karaoke effect. Others said, > the implementation is rather simple, you mix the > left and right channel in the way it lowers the singer > voice. > Please... And don't forget my "songs are not scanned" bug :) -- David Garabana Barro jabber & google talk ID: david at garabana.com Clave p?blica PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/39ee416f/attachment.pgp From billk at iinet.net.au Sat Sep 5 12:27:25 2009 From: billk at iinet.net.au (William Kenworthy) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:27:25 +0800 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: <4AA23334.4050105@wollishausen.de> References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> <84vdjx21tl.fsf@sauna.l.org> <4AA23334.4050105@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <1252146445.3869.30.camel@rattus> On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 11:45 +0200, Matthias Huber wrote: > Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: > > Matthias Huber writes: > > > > > *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap > > > _partition_ also. > > > > > > > What are the advantages of a swap partition? The only one I can think > > of is that it can be used for software suspend. > > > > > afaik, it is much faster than file. > > -- > MatzeHuber I use swapfiles occasionally on my desktop when it looks like I need more swap (large graphics - gimp) - I would disagree that a swap partition is "much" faster - experience shows its more like much, much, much ... faster :) Not of much use on th FR, but swap partitions on different drives having the same priority use a parallel striping for read/write (like raid0) for a speedup. BillK From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 13:18:52 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 06:18:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 1. In the song list, switch between > filename/Artist/Song Title/Album view > Would it be fine if I put an option for this in the settings page? Its not likely to be used often. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 2. Different ordering possibility, aka. improve the shuffle button > > * Order by filename (as it does currently) > * Order by album > * Order by Artist > * Order by Title > * Shuffle the list > Will implement these soon. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Party mode > Will take some time. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > * play only the next song, and stop OR > play one song infinitely > Will implement soon. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 4. When adding new songs dir, should be a list view, > where it lists all added dir, and could also remove add to it. > (I already suggested it) > Almost done - testing it now. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 5. Implement minimal lyrics editor (MOST IMPORTANT;))) > (I already suggested) > Will take a little time. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > It would be also really usefull as it could autoscroll the > list. > Will need some experimenting and so will take some time. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 6. Implement in the lyrics view zoom in and zoom out button > Will implement soon Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > 7. Future idea: Implement effects for the music. > For simple Karaoke effect, one of the channels is inverted, both channels are mixed and sound is played back mono. This is going to require intone to move to playing the songs itself (decoding and sending sound to alsa pcm). Also, I'm not sure if the FR can handle this much in realtime. Same goes for other DSP effects. I'm going to need some pointers here from DSP guru's. I've just about managed to get a guitar tuner going on the FR - and its slow - but usable. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > By the way c_c, do you also need this layer manipulating > demo program? > Frankly, i haven't gotten around to it. I'm cleaning up some code and getting the song dir view going (actually almost done). Once this is over, I'll finish off the simpler tasks - which should be soon. Keep the ideas coming. It just takes one interested person to get nice ideas into a program. Thanks. Davide wrote: > > And don't forget my "songs are not scanned" bug :) > I cant seem to find the reason. Can you send me the one song that is creating issues? I can only think of the tags (where I'm not doing any checking) that could create such an issue. But I'll need it to test. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3584832.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 13:31:58 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:31:58 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, c_c wrote: > ?For simple Karaoke effect, one of the channels is inverted, both channels > are mixed and sound is played back mono. This is going to require intone to > move to playing the songs itself (decoding and sending sound to alsa pcm). > Also, I'm not sure if the FR can handle this much in realtime. Same goes for > other DSP effects. I'm going to need some pointers here from DSP guru's. > I've just about managed to get a guitar tuner going on the FR - and its slow > - but usable. No need to be real time. We could generate them (ie converting music, please wait...), and play them as simple music files. It is not often used, just for fun, so no problem if it has its cost. >> By the way c_c, do you also need this layer manipulating >> demo program? >> > ?Frankly, i haven't gotten around to it. Ok, I will cook up a demo program for it. > ?Keep the ideas coming. It just takes one interested person to get nice > ideas into a program. Thanks. Ideas are only coming if you *use* the app, and see what could be different. If you dont use it, no useful ideas are turning out;) Best regards, Laszlo From mickey at vanille-media.de Sat Sep 5 13:38:27 2009 From: mickey at vanille-media.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:38:27 +0200 Subject: [FSO] how to get info from odeviced audio interface? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200909051338.27845.mickey@vanille-media.de> This has now been fixed. Sample output: mickey at andromeda:/local/pkg/fso/cornucopia/fsodeviced$ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.GetInfo { 'formats': ['wav', 'ogg', 'mod', 'mp3', 'sid'], 'name': 'Default Audio Device', 'scenario': 'unknown', 'scenarios': []} Cheers, :M: From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 13:41:48 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:41:48 +0200 Subject: [FSO] how to get info from odeviced audio interface? In-Reply-To: <200909051338.27845.mickey@vanille-media.de> References: <200909051338.27845.mickey@vanille-media.de> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > This has now been fixed. Sample output: Thank you! Laszlo From hans at everlasting.be Sat Sep 5 13:47:46 2009 From: hans at everlasting.be (Hans Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:47:46 +0200 Subject: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux In-Reply-To: <1252016294510-3576481.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251403330844-3529624.post@n2.nabble.com> <4A9EC096.5000302@everlasting.be> <1252016294510-3576481.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4AA24FE2.4010603@everlasting.be> D. Fett wrote: > > > Hans Zimmerman wrote: >> D. Fett wrote: >>> "Notify the community mailing list." >>> (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications) >>> >>> Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux has all important features to make >>> your >>> geocaching life easier: >>> >>> - download geocaches for offline use with full text, hints & images on >>> your >>> freerunner >>> - map view with icons for nearby geocaches (uses openstreetmaps and >>> tangogps >>> map directory, downloades missing tiles automatically) >>> - search the internal database for geocaches by name or type >>> - target selection: selected geocache, one of its waypoints or manual >>> input >>> >>> more at http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html >> Testing the latest version 0.1.2: >> - I do not seem to get a GPS fix (other GPS applications do get a fix) >> - I try do download caches, the console does show some caches are >> downloaded (I recognize names from the neighbourhood) but they are not >> shown on the map. >> >> > > Hans, please test the new package. I did not experience problems with GPS > fix in 0.1.2, but maybe restarting the app can help. > The second bug you describe was indeed there. Should work by now. > I both upgraded shr-unstable and AGTL and everything is working great now! Hans From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 14:21:00 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:21:00 +0200 Subject: [shr-unstable] Does mount nfs filesystem works In-Reply-To: References: <4AA1EB56.5030001@rcie.de> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> IT works like a charm under om2009. With the help of blindcoder at #openmoko-cdevel channel, it turned out, that I need to install portmap software to be able to use nfs mounting. Sadly portmap is not available on shr. He was kind enough, and builded for me one: wget http://pallas.crash-override.net/~blindcoder/portmap_6.0-r3_armv4t.ipk opkg install portmap_6.0-r3_armv4t.ipk /etc/init.d/portmap restart And after it works like a charm. There is an error message though when starting the portmap daemon: root at om-gta02 ~ $ /etc/init.d/portmap restart /etc/init.d/portmap: line 47: pmap_dump: not found Stopping portmap daemon: portmap. Starting portmap daemon: portmap. /etc/init.d/portmap: line 47: pmap_set: not found root at om-gta02 ~ $ According to blindcoder they should only be run when /var/run/portmap.upgrade-state exists, which doesn't exists on Fr. Could some shr people include this package in shr? Best regards, Laszlo From michael-tansella at gmx.de Sat Sep 5 14:22:48 2009 From: michael-tansella at gmx.de (Michael Tansella) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:22:48 +0200 Subject: Any news about Project B? Message-ID: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Hi, are there any news about Project B? Greets Michael From tingox at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 15:20:43 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:20:43 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working? In-Reply-To: <1252088393.3683.2.camel@rp-skunk> References: <1252088393.3683.2.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: Hello, On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > One question: is wiFi (wireless networking) working? > > If so, how do I turn it on? > > I have lookd in menus, but can't seem to find it. > > It's in Main Menu->Settings->Internet->Menu->New->Wireless LAN > Aha, there it was. Thanks! > But currently for me scanning does not work so that i > have to enter essid manually. > Entering ESSID manually works fine. Ther is one little snag; under Wireless Encryption, when entering the passphrase (mine is exactly 8 characters) it complains that the passphrase must be 8 characters or longer. :-) Will the wireless LAN be activated on demand? I tried to open the web browser, but it doesn't get contact anywhere. (for this test, usb networking wasn't active) > Otherwise command line works just fine: > > iwlist scan > iwconfig eth0 essid type_your_essid_here > udhcpc eth0 > Yes, it probably does. But my goal is to get this FreeRunner usable without me having to drag a computer along. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/49609bd5/attachment.htm From tingox at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 15:26:19 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:26:19 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - i there a gps application included? In-Reply-To: <1252088629.3683.6.camel@rp-skunk> References: <1252088629.3683.6.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: Hello, On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > QtMoko: one other question: is there a gps application included? > > > > I did try to start tangoGPS (though something called "OX"), but it > > just seems to unstable to use. It quits all the time. > > Hmm this is strange, because it works for me and some other people. > But it's known problem, that there is not much memory left for X > applications. Having swap on /dev/mmcblk0p4 could help. Ok, so I need a swap partition too? I better get myself a new sd card then, the original 512MB one doesn't have very much space free (I just created a single partition on it). How big shoud this swap partition be? The only thing I can find on thw wiki about Swap is this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SwapSpace and it talks about a swap file, not a swap partition. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/55d91b4b/attachment.htm From montgoss+openmokocommunity at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 15:43:31 2009 From: montgoss+openmokocommunity at gmail.com (Steven **) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 08:43:31 -0500 Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Another small bug: Most of the time, after the title changes to "Loading", it never changes back. Which makes it difficult to tell if a click actually launched the app. Honestly, I prefer the Illume launch overlay anyways, as it prevented you from accidentally launching twice and made it very clear that your click worked and something was loading. -Steven On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:55 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > ?Much later than I thought, but here's the latest release of Launcher. > > ?Features > * Inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog apps > * uses opim backends > * shows cell broadcast info > > ?Feedback is welcome. > > ?Enjoy! > > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3552019/launcher_0.35_arm.ipk > launcher_0.35_arm.ipk > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3552019.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 15:43:51 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:43:51 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1252028127930-3577232.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252028127930-3577232.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 9/4/09, c_c wrote: > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> >> Just use elementary Pager! It's designed for things like that ;) >> > Well, there are some issues with that :- > 1. pager is slow on FR's > 2. Also it uses a little bit of extra space all around > 3. I will need to re-create the 8 buttons and 2 sliders for each view > 4. The hit of keeping 2 out of the three of list / text box / image in > memory at any time (think about a 4000 songs list when in play all songs > mode!) 1. Pager isn't slow. That's just animation in theme. Disabled in sixteen and niebiee themes. I hope SHR will change default theme to something better working on FR soon. 2. Well, also theme issue. You can add theme extension to intone, which will add to pager style without any space around. 3. No, just place Pager above 2 sliders and behind 8 buttons :P 4. Keep only 3 pages in memory. List, lyrics and image, and change lyrics and image when changing song. I don't think keeping every song details in memory is necesary, keep only widgets and update their content. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 15:50:14 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:50:14 +0200 Subject: intone and symlinks In-Reply-To: References: <1251861430958-3564487.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251896186935-3566554.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251903744830-3567362.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252038975782-3577888.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> PS: Here's the intone binary for the impatient. (not ipk - just the >> /usr/bin/intone binary) > > Thanks, I will report asap. > IT works great. The image are beautiful. However I need to test with smaller and bigger images too. (if it gets expanded or shrinked). Will report it, when I tested. But currently it is beautiful. Laszlo From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 16:06:42 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 09:06:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252028127930-3577232.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252159602236-3585298.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, 1 and 2 - Ok. I stand corrected. :-) Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > 3. No, just place Pager above 2 sliders and behind 8 buttons :P > Interesting - I just didn't think of that. Let me try this. Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > 4. Keep only 3 pages in memory. List, lyrics and image, and change > lyrics and image when changing song. > Just wondered how much memory that will take. But I'm going to try this anyway. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-and-lyrics-with-album-art-tp3561872p3585298.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 16:12:17 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 09:12:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Ok, the song directories list is done. Code committed to svn. Here's a binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3585318/intone intone Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > No need to be real time. > Then, maybe it would be better if it was done as a an external script that I could call from Intone? Same for the cover art and lyrics fetching. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > Ok, I will cook up a demo program for it. > Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3585318.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 16:14:45 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 09:14:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252160085752-3585329.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Steven ** wrote: > > Most of the time, after the title changes to "Loading", it never > changes back. > Fixed. Will release soon. Steven ** wrote: > > Honestly, I prefer the Illume launch overlay anyways, as it prevented > you from accidentally launching twice and made it very clear that your > click worked and something was loading. > Yup. Going to implement something like that too. Just running a little short of time. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3585329.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From info at apertum.it Sat Sep 5 16:45:06 2009 From: info at apertum.it (-= Apertum =-) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:45:06 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - help fixing incomming call bug In-Reply-To: <1252132502.3683.14.camel@rp-skunk> References: <1252132502.3683.14.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: <4AA27972.2000502@apertum.it> * Radek Polak wrote, Il 05/09/2009 08:35: > Hi, > i am trying to fix the bug, when there is sometimes no sound in incoming > call after reboot. My guess is that alsa scenario is not applied > correctly in this case. The problem is that i cant reproduce this issue > reliably - and when i want to debug it, it simply disappears. > I use a little workaround (maybe you already know about that), it can helps you to find a solution i think: when incoming the first call from boot, there is no sound, of course, but i can manually switch from speakerphone to headphone from the option. So when i switch 2 times, the sound it's right :-) I try to send to you the log anyway. Thank you for your great effort on QtMoko, Radek. -- Andrea From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 17:06:24 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:06:24 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > ?Ok, the song directories list is done. Code committed to svn. Here's a > binary. ?http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3585318/intone intone Thx, testing .... > Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > ?Then, maybe it would be better if it was done as a an external script that > I could call from Intone? Same for the cover art and lyrics fetching. I envision an FSO daemon for it. I would execute simple script file from directories. Where each directory would correspond an event. Directories: timeout/ gprs/ usb/ wifi/ So we could put our script in usb (for usb net) and in wifi. And we would simply write in our script, that delete the other script from usb dir (if our script is executed in wifi dir). The timeout script would simply correspond to 'launch this program at 16:00', and we could simply implement a alarm application;). Than in the script would simply launch fso-alarm through dbus.;))) It would be dead simple and robust implementation. No need extra voodoo, only put the right dir your program. Best regards, Laszlo From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 17:14:05 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:14:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, In the song list, switch between filename and Song Title is done. Here's the binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3585909/intone intone Do you need other options too for the list? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3585909.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 17:17:03 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:17:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252163823896-3585922.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > It would be dead simple and robust implementation. > No need extra voodoo, only put the right dir your program. > interesting! Let me know when you start working on it. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3585922.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From david at garabana.com Sat Sep 5 18:23:45 2009 From: david at garabana.com (David Garabana Barro) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:23:45 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <200909051823.48074.david@garabana.com> O S?bado, 5 de Setembro de 2009, c_c escribiu: > Hi, > > Davide wrote: > > And don't forget my "songs are not scanned" bug :) > > I cant seem to find the reason. Can you send me the one song that is > creating issues? I can only think of the tags (where I'm not doing any > checking) that could create such an issue. But I'll need it to test. No, it's not a tags issue I can't simply enter on dirs inside my Reiserfs partition. They are show as files :( When I first reported the bug, I could at least enter on dirs, but only songs one level below the actual directory were scanned. Scanning was not recursive, but I could add songs. Now I can't add any single song to intone :( The same songs on a ext3 partition are recognised OK. -- David Garabana Barro jabber & google talk ID: david at garabana.com Clave p?blica PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/dafeb962/attachment.pgp From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 18:25:20 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:25:20 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/4/09, Vadim, Efimov wrote: > On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:43:50 +0400, Nicola Mfb > wrote: > >> Hi! >> I just tried to transfer the addressbook from my Nokia N70 to opimd. >> As PISI does not support obex/syncml via bt I used msynctool to sync >> with Evolution. >> Finally I transfered the evolution vcf exported file on the freerunner >> and used PISI to sync it with opimd. >> The result was that only sim contacts have the phone field. I tested >> that with opimd gui, cli utils and litephone. >> However it's not an opimd problem as using PISI to sync the same vcf >> with google contacts results in the same problem. >> >> PISI is 0.4.5, shr is unstable lite 08/08 updated and upgraded before >> trying pisi. >> >> Here some lines from the vcf file: >> >> BEGIN:VCARD >> VERSION:3.0 >> UID:pas-id-4A9F1EF500000120 >> X-EVOLUTION-FILE-AS:XXXX\, XXXX >> FN:XXXX XXXX >> N:XXXX;XXXX;;; >> REV:20090627T221844Z >> TEL;TYPE=CELL:XXXXXXXXXX >> END:VCARD >> >> Regards >> >> Nicola >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community at lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > Recently i tried to migrate my contacts too (via KDE Adressbook) and > found that PISI export only FAX fields. I created few contacts in FR > directly, and export it to vcf. PISI prefixed all numbers with > "VOICE" flag: > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:3.0 > FN:Vadim > N:Efimov;Vadim;;; > TEL;TYPE=CELL,VOICE:+71234567890 > END:VCARD > > so, i add VOICE prefix to all fields and try again, it imported ok, > except field what don't have TYPE flag ("other" number in my SE 810i) > TYPE=VOICE also don't help... > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Can you check what's the names of fields? It should be something like "Cell phone", "Office phone" etc. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 18:41:02 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:41:02 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:14 PM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > ?In the song list, switch between filename and Song Title is done. Here's > the binary. ?http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3585909/intone intone > ?Do you need other options too for the list? > 1. I removed the dir which was listed. Then I added a dir containing only 3 files. It began scanning, but crashed after. 2. I removed the .intone directory and tried to relaunch intone, it coredumps since Logs: root at om-gta02 ~ $ intone db ver 62 1792: old priority 0, new priority 0 Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged 18 SQL error: no such table: 19 SQL error: no such table: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x269)! *** glibc detected *** intone: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0020d548 *** Aborted root at om-gta02 ~ $ rm -rf .intone/ root at om-gta02 ~ $ intone 16 SQL error: unable to open database file Creating new db file 16.5 SQL error: 1 not an error db ver 63 Killed 1827: old priority 0, new priority 0 Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Segmentation fault root at om-gta02 ~ $ intone db ver 63 Killed 1846: old priority 0, new priority 0 Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Segmentation fault root at om-gta02 ~ $ intone From martin.jansa at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 19:11:20 2009 From: martin.jansa at gmail.com (Martin Jansa) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:11:20 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <20090905170537.GD3046@jama> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904123225.GB3046@jama> <1252068512670-3579709.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904133420.GC3046@jama> <1252125403626-3583908.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090905170537.GD3046@jama> Message-ID: <20090905171120.GE3046@jama> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 11:36:43PM -0500, c_c wrote: > > http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk > Thanks. Will try it and post back. Maybe try rather -r13 or/and -r14 (links in attachement), I've included config files for setting default -ac to tremor,mad and -vo to glamo > How low is 'low accuracy'? And why do we need the floating point > implementation if it kill as much as 50% cpu? I'm not able to distinguish between sound of tremor/ffvorbis/vorbis, so low accuracy is anough for my ears. > Does this version need the -ac flag? -r12 yes.. it even used ffvorbis by default and then failed with Unsupported instruction (will investigate later if someone interested in vorbis floating point version on arm) -r13 and -r14 have -ac set to tremor,mad in config file installed in /usr/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf I made a small bash test-suite mplayerTest.sh in [1], which I used to test available binaries for features (which -ac fails with them) and for performance (real/user/sys time from time command) see mplayerTest.final in [2] or more details in mplayer.log in [3]. If you have some interesting binary, please send me your results or link which version should I test with my testfiles. Conclusion from test: 1) tremor is really way to go without FPU on neo. 2) mad (fixed point implementation of mp3 decoder) performs also better on neo than ffmp3, but not as significantly asi tremor/vorbis. 3) only binaries without tremor support are sad to say old glamo version mplayerOG and mplayerUN from shr-unstable feed. My upgraded mplayer with rebased glamo patch works for me now only on shr-unstable. On my experimental install with xorg from git it's rendered somewhere (or at least it seems so from logs), but nothing is shown on display. And sdl -vo even makes xserver to segfault imediately. Maybe I'll try to build updated binaries with external tremor from xiph upstream 1) svn://svn.xiph.org/trunk;module=Tremor;proto=http 2) svn://svn.xiph.org/branches/lowmem-branch;module=Tremor;proto=http 3) internal tremor but with disabled tremor-low but last time I checked it was the same from performance POV. -- uin:136542059 jid:Martin.Jansa at gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jamasip at voip.wengo.fr JaMa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2 mplayerPT http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer-ptt_dev-SVN-r28791-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk mplayerTL http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk mplayerTT http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk mplayerUN http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r12_armv4t.ipk F .. when command failed with error exit status L .. see LOG below, codec not found or not used as expected | Codec | Build | | real | user | sys | DATA | tremor | mplayer13 | | 0:36.13 | 10.79 | 2.29 | | ffvorbis | mplayer13 |F| 0:00.56 | 0.35 | 0.16 | | vorbis | mplayer13 |L| 0:00.51 | 0.33 | 0.14 | | mad | mplayer13 | | 0:35.72 | 11.34 | 1.06 | | ffmp3 | mplayer13 | | 0:37.50 | 17.02 | 2.66 | | sdl | mplayer13 | | 0:32.50 | 12.98 | 1.17 | | glamo | mplayer13 | | 0:31.42 | 5.50 | 1.03 | | tremor | mplayer14 | | 0:36.15 | 10.13 | 3.08 | | ffvorbis | mplayer14 |F| 0:00.58 | 0.33 | 0.20 | | vorbis | mplayer14 |L| 0:00.47 | 0.30 | 0.14 | | mad | mplayer14 | | 0:35.68 | 11.02 | 1.09 | | ffmp3 | mplayer14 | | 0:37.73 | 17.83 | 1.77 | | sdl | mplayer14 | | 0:32.55 | 13.02 | 1.23 | | glamo | mplayer14 | | 0:31.45 | 5.45 | 0.93 | | tremor | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.67 | 0.53 | 0.12 | | ffvorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.73 | 0.51 | 0.17 | | vorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 | 0.49 | 0.16 | | mad | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.33 | 0.17 | 0.08 | | ffmp3 | mplayerOG | | 0:01.84 | 1.65 | 0.12 | | sdl | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 | 0.50 | 0.12 | | glamo | mplayerOG | | 0:30.79 | 0.49 | 0.25 | | tremor | mplayerPT | | 0:36.12 | 14.96 | 2.34 | | ffvorbis | mplayerPT |F| 0:00.59 | 0.31 | 0.18 | | vorbis | mplayerPT |L| 0:00.40 | 0.20 | 0.18 | | mad | mplayerPT | | 0:35.94 | 11.53 | 1.25 | | ffmp3 | mplayerPT | | 0:37.52 | 16.01 | 2.09 | | sdl | mplayerPT |L| 0:31.23 | 5.44 | 1.55 | | glamo | mplayerPT |L| 0:31.35 | 5.34 | 1.61 | | tremor | mplayerTL | | 0:35.95 | 12.16 | 1.41 | | ffvorbis | mplayerTL |L| 0:00.48 | 0.30 | 0.15 | | vorbis | mplayerTL |L| 0:00.47 | 0.29 | 0.16 | | mad | mplayerTL | | 0:35.98 | 11.33 | 1.21 | | ffmp3 | mplayerTL | | 0:37.60 | 18.07 | 1.89 | | sdl | mplayerTL | | 0:33.12 | 13.02 | 0.98 | | glamo | mplayerTL | | 0:31.26 | 5.38 | 1.67 | | tremor | mplayerTT | | 0:36.41 | 15.00 | 2.53 | | ffvorbis | mplayerTT |L| 0:00.47 | 0.33 | 0.14 | | vorbis | mplayerTT |L| 0:00.53 | 0.30 | 0.16 | | mad | mplayerTT | | 0:35.95 | 11.35 | 1.08 | | ffmp3 | mplayerTT | | 0:37.62 | 16.91 | 3.08 | | sdl | mplayerTT | | 0:32.98 | 12.98 | 0.94 | | glamo | mplayerTT | | 0:31.26 | 5.28 | 1.78 | | tremor | mplayerUN |L| 0:01.02 | 0.18 | 0.20 | | ffvorbis | mplayerUN | | 0:36.15 | 22.46 | 2.10 | | vorbis | mplayerUN | | 0:35.74 | 11.66 | 2.05 | | mad | mplayerUN | | 0:35.57 | 11.77 | 1.89 | | ffmp3 | mplayerUN | | 0:37.51 | 17.13 | 2.73 | | sdl | mplayerUN | | 0:32.32 | 12.59 | 0.99 | | glamo | mplayerUN | | 0:31.31 | 4.88 | 1.92 | LOG_sorted_by_codec DATA | ffmp3 | mplayer13 | | 0:37.50 | 17.02 | 2.66 | | ffmp3 | mplayer14 | | 0:37.73 | 17.83 | 1.77 | | ffmp3 | mplayerOG |L| 0:01.84 | 1.65 | 0.12 | | ffmp3 | mplayerPT | | 0:37.52 | 16.01 | 2.09 | | ffmp3 | mplayerTL | | 0:37.60 | 18.07 | 1.89 | | ffmp3 | mplayerTT | | 0:37.62 | 16.91 | 3.08 | | ffmp3 | mplayerUN | | 0:37.51 | 17.13 | 2.73 | | ffvorbis | mplayer13 |F| 0:00.56 | 0.35 | 0.16 | | ffvorbis | mplayer14 |F| 0:00.58 | 0.33 | 0.20 | | ffvorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.73 | 0.51 | 0.17 | | ffvorbis | mplayerPT |F| 0:00.59 | 0.31 | 0.18 | | ffvorbis | mplayerTL |L| 0:00.48 | 0.30 | 0.15 | | ffvorbis | mplayerTT |L| 0:00.47 | 0.33 | 0.14 | | ffvorbis | mplayerUN | | 0:36.15 | 22.46 | 2.10 | | glamo | mplayer13 | | 0:31.42 | 5.50 | 1.03 | | glamo | mplayer14 | | 0:31.45 | 5.45 | 0.93 | | glamo | mplayerOG | | 0:30.79 | 0.49 | 0.25 | | glamo | mplayerPT | | 0:31.35 | 5.34 | 1.61 | | glamo | mplayerTL | | 0:31.26 | 5.38 | 1.67 | | glamo | mplayerTT | | 0:31.26 | 5.28 | 1.78 | | glamo | mplayerUN | | 0:31.31 | 4.88 | 1.92 | | mad | mplayer13 | | 0:35.72 | 11.34 | 1.06 | | mad | mplayer14 | | 0:35.68 | 11.02 | 1.09 | | mad | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.33 | 0.17 | 0.08 | | mad | mplayerPT | | 0:35.94 | 11.53 | 1.25 | | mad | mplayerTL | | 0:35.98 | 11.33 | 1.21 | | mad | mplayerTT | | 0:35.95 | 11.35 | 1.08 | | mad | mplayerUN | | 0:35.57 | 11.77 | 1.89 | | sdl | mplayer13 | | 0:32.50 | 12.98 | 1.17 | | sdl | mplayer14 | | 0:32.55 | 13.02 | 1.23 | | sdl | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 | 0.50 | 0.12 | | sdl | mplayerPT | | 0:31.23 | 5.44 | 1.55 | | sdl | mplayerTL | | 0:33.12 | 13.02 | 0.98 | | sdl | mplayerTT | | 0:32.98 | 12.98 | 0.94 | | sdl | mplayerUN | | 0:32.32 | 12.59 | 0.99 | | tremor | mplayer13 | | 0:36.13 | 10.79 | 2.29 | | tremor | mplayer14 | | 0:36.15 | 10.13 | 3.08 | | tremor | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.67 | 0.53 | 0.12 | | tremor | mplayerPT | | 0:36.12 | 14.96 | 2.34 | | tremor | mplayerTL | | 0:35.95 | 12.16 | 1.41 | | tremor | mplayerTT | | 0:36.41 | 15.00 | 2.53 | | tremor | mplayerUN |L| 0:01.02 | 0.18 | 0.20 | | vorbis | mplayer13 |L| 0:00.51 | 0.33 | 0.14 | | vorbis | mplayer14 |L| 0:00.47 | 0.30 | 0.14 | | vorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 | 0.49 | 0.16 | | vorbis | mplayerPT |L| 0:00.40 | 0.20 | 0.18 | | vorbis | mplayerTL |L| 0:00.47 | 0.29 | 0.16 | | vorbis | mplayerTT |L| 0:00.53 | 0.30 | 0.16 | | vorbis | mplayerUN | | 0:35.74 | 11.66 | 2.05 | detail LOG moved to gziped [3] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I removed the .intone directory and tried to relaunch intone, it > coredumps since > Can you check if there is no intone / mplayer process hung in the background? That could lock up the db. Then rm -rf .intone and run intone. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3586453.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Sat Sep 5 19:40:21 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:40:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Try this binary. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3586458/intone intone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3586458.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 19:44:43 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:44:43 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: > Can you check if there is no intone / mplayer process hung in the > background? That could lock up the db. > Then rm -rf .intone and run intone. I will also reboot the phone. But there is no intone for sure. root at om-gta02 ~ $ ps aux|grep intone root 2223 1.0 1.6 15668 2044 pts/4 S 19:42 0:00 mplayer -idle -quiet -slave -msglevel global=6 -input file=/tmp/intone-mplayer root 2234 0.0 0.6 3268 816 pts/4 S+ 19:43 0:00 grep intone root at om-gta02 ~ $ kill 2223 root at om-gta02 ~ $ ps aux|grep intone root 2238 0.0 0.6 3268 816 pts/4 S+ 19:43 0:00 grep intone root at om-gta02 ~ $ ps aux|grep intone root 2240 0.0 0.6 3268 816 pts/4 S+ 19:43 0:00 grep intone root at om-gta02 ~ $ rm -rf .intone root at om-gta02 ~ $ intone 16 SQL error: unable to open database file Creating new db file 16.5 SQL error: 1 not an error db ver 63 2256: old priority 0, new priority 0 Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Segmentation fault root at om-gta02 ~ $ From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 19:46:39 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:46:39 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:40 PM, c_c wrote: > ?Try this binary. ?http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3586458/intone intone With that binary the result: root at om-gta02 ~ $ kill 2285 root at om-gta02 ~ $ kill 2286 root at om-gta02 ~ $ ps aux |grep intone root 2296 0.0 0.6 3268 816 pts/4 S+ 19:45 0:00 grep intone root at om-gta02 ~ $ rm -rf .intone/ root at om-gta02 ~ $ intone 16 SQL error: unable to open database file Creating new db file 16.5 SQL error: 1 not an error db ver 63 2315: old priority 0, new priority 0 Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Segmentation fault root at om-gta02 ~ $ From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 20:11:15 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 20:11:15 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:40 PM, c_c wrote: > ?Try this binary. ?http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3586458/intone intone I also tried to debug with gdb, but without success: root at om-gta02 /usr/bin $ gdb intone GNU gdb 6.8 Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi"... (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/intone db ver 63 [1] + Stopped (tty output) gdb intone root at om-gta02 /usr/bin $ fg gdb intone [New LWP 2479] [New LWP 2465] Program received signal SIGTTOU, Stopped (tty output). 0x40a92ef0 in waitpid () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) cont Continuing. Program received signal SIGTTOU, Stopped (tty output). [Switching to LWP 2479] 0x40a92ef0 in waitpid () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) From evadim at evadim.ru Sat Sep 5 20:13:52 2009 From: evadim at evadim.ru (Vadim, Efimov) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:13:52 +0400 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:25:20 +0400, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > Can you check what's the names of fields? It should be something like > "Cell phone", "Office phone" etc. name of fields where ? On SE 810 ? FR ? kaddressbook ? exported from addressbook to vcf v.3 BEGIN:VCARD EMAIL: N:lastname;firstname;;; TEL;TYPE=WORK:+7********** TEL;TYPE=HOME:+7********** TEL;TYPE=CELL:+7********** TEL;TYPE=FAX:+7********** TEL:+7********** UID:xdLV7j1RdY VERSION:3.0 X-IRMC-LUID:000200000072 END:VCARD so, i added to it field FN:firstname lastname From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 22:05:42 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:05:42 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/5/09, Vadim, Efimov wrote: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:25:20 +0400, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > wrote: > >> Can you check what's the names of fields? It should be something like >> "Cell phone", "Office phone" etc. > > name of fields where ? On SE 810 ? FR ? kaddressbook ? > exported from addressbook to vcf v.3 In opimd. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From ccc94453 at vip.cybercity.dk Sat Sep 5 18:23:03 2009 From: ccc94453 at vip.cybercity.dk (Rask Ingemann Lambertsen) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:23:03 +0200 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: <20090820072107.GF5030@roque.1407.org> References: <1250712089.3744.97.camel@shamet> <20090819210626.GE5030@roque.1407.org> <1250718013.3762.14.camel@shamet> <2f3aa2770908191611jbbb3178td2df508dc9304e9f@mail.gmail.com> <1250725983.3762.61.camel@shamet> <1250737002059-3476622.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820072107.GF5030@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <20090905162303.GB9894@vip.cybercity.dk> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:21:07AM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > Just a few more cents from me... > > Have you guys ever seen one of those "other" smartphones booting? They take > ages too. The main difference is that we have to boot more often :) Do we? I can't comment on your SHR problems because I don't use it, but Debian doesn't exactly need rebooting. Just put in a menu entry to restart fso-frameworkd that you can quickly get to when the screen blanker part stops reacting to screen touches. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year From digitalpioneer at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 22:52:59 2009 From: digitalpioneer at gmail.com (The Digital Pioneer) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:52:59 -0500 Subject: Broken FR for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, IDK how it's useful for home automation, if it doesn't have a screen... Perhaps you mean as a server, not a client, but even so, that requires a lot of hardware and skill I don't have. :P Also, seeing as I don't have a car, only a bike, it wouldn't be particularly useful for tracking a stolen vehicle, even if the GPS was working. About the only thing I can think of that it would be useful to me for is to trade it in for an A7 (or at least something with a buzzfix) with a working screen, and get a huge discount for it. I have no idea if that's feasible, but my gut says no. Now, if anyone wants to sell me a screen, I'm very interested. It would be fun to try to repair it, although probabilistically speaking I would be more likely to break every component in the phone that does work, including the new screen, when I tried to replace it... Nevertheless, it's worth a shot. But for now, that's a dead end unless I can find a touchscreen that fits in it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090905/52c88eb9/attachment.htm From risto at kurppa.fi Sat Sep 5 23:46:21 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 00:46:21 +0300 Subject: Any news about Project B? In-Reply-To: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> References: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Michael Tansella wrote: > Hi, > are there any news about Project B? Valid question! We want to know! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 00:14:14 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 00:14:14 +0200 Subject: Om2009 Maintainer In-Reply-To: <200908281309.50216.nytowl@openmoko.org> References: <200908281309.50216.nytowl@openmoko.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Angus Ainslie wrote: > now if you want to disable the shr phone apps without removing them comment > all of the lines out in > > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89notifier and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ophonekitd If you comment out 80ophonekitd, there will be no sound when you are on line. So the ringing works, but no sound either on the callee side nor on the caller side. However if you dont disable it, it will bring app shr's white screen with the tiny phone number in the middle. Dunno how to disable it. Would be nice to know how a proper calling sequence are built. So what exactly is needed to send on the dbus. Im really lost here. Laszlo From cchandel at yahoo.com Sun Sep 6 08:43:04 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 01:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252219384223-3591628.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > I also tried to debug with gdb, but without success: > Can you try this? I was plying around with the scandir wierdness on reiserfs and perhaps committed a version with bugs. This should sort out the crashes. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3591628/intone intone If something still goes bad try after rm -rf .intone. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3591628.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Sun Sep 6 08:46:38 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 01:46:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <200909051823.48074.david@garabana.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <200909051823.48074.david@garabana.com> Message-ID: <1252219598863-3591634.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Davide wrote: > > Now I can't add any single song to intone :( > > The same songs on a ext3 partition are recognised OK. > There is some wierdness with scandir. Apparently it only returns the correct type on ext 2,3 fs. With reiserfs - this doesn't happen. All directories are hence not recgonised and hence so scanning takes place. I've made some changes that correctly calculates the type using stat(). Can you try the binary in the message above? It should solve the issues (but might be a little slower - as if it could after the tag scanning bit :-). Thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3591634.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 09:42:11 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:42:11 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252219384223-3591628.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252219384223-3591628.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM, c_c wrote: > ?http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3591628/intone intone > > ?If something still goes bad try after rm -rf .intone. I selected dir, and added successfully. When I returned to the list view, there were still a 'to add files use Songs button' item in the list. I clicked on the album view, and segmentation fault happened. I relaunched intone, and it has my directories. However it does not display the head icon when there is no cover art, it displays nothing, blank. Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 09:50:25 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:50:25 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: References: <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252219384223-3591628.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> ?If something still goes bad try after rm -rf .intone. Another bug: When you change back to the list view, it does not jump to the actual playin file anymore. It tend to display the end of the list. Best regards, Laszlo From t.landspurg at 8motions.com Sun Sep 6 10:02:33 2009 From: t.landspurg at 8motions.com (Thomas Landspurg) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 10:02:33 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> References: <815cb1720909020014i43a7be81g8bef3c3bd1489dae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> Message-ID: <9ab347b00909060102v17adfb3evd656ddcf181670c8@mail.gmail.com> Great, good to know that you are back. So I would like to be sure that you received my latest emails / linked in invitation/facebook inviation in order to make sure that we still can continue to discuss! :-) 2009/9/3 Onen : > Hi, > > I was away from my computer, I try to go now through my emails... > > Thomas Landspurg wrote: >> >> ? Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions >> >> ? I have some point of disagreement, > > Please tell. > > ?but I would like first to stay >> >> polite > > You imply you think you have good reasons not to. I think you should simply > tell what you think. > > ?and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he >> >> disappear? > > !!! > > I am trying to contact him since more than a week without >> >> success.... >> > > I find very ironic that you find more than a week thaaaaaat long. > > Onen > > -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org From t.landspurg at 8motions.com Sun Sep 6 10:15:50 2009 From: t.landspurg at 8motions.com (Thomas Landspurg) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 10:15:50 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> Message-ID: <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> Hello Risto, That's exactly the objective.There is a clear difference and complementarity between a general purpose database and the "CellsHunter" game for instance. The good news is that we are progressing well with CellsHunter to integrate their database. Currently the integration has been done once but I hope to integrate this much easily soon... I still hope to convince OpenBMap to don't recreate another database focused on OpenMoko but use and improve a general purpose project. I am sure that that's the spirit of Onen, but it seems that we had some communication issue that I should be solved soon. The final benefit, at the end, is to provide the best not in only in term of coverage but also in terms of accuracy database. As a reminder, we are open to any suggestion on how to imprement the API, features, missing fields, etc..... 2009/9/3 Risto H. Kurppa : > I have no idea what's going on between you people but: > > Now that I had a little thought, I really don't care how many copies > of the database we have. All I care about is that > > a) there's a way to use the data (=a client capable to locate me based > on the GSM cells around me) > b) the client uses the database with most cells. > > -> as long as all three projects have proper API's to import/export > data and they do it from the other 2 projects things work. > > It kind of makes sense if the projects use different ways to collect > the data. One has it as a competition, one uses some clients to > collect the data, another uses other clients and projects. And in the > end they all benefit from the work of others. > > Just some points for you to discuss: > a) common api or data format to import/export > b) common api to submit cells > > > r - goes out to find some cells > > (no, not really, I'll watch an episode of CSI :) > > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org From timo.lindfors at iki.fi Sun Sep 6 10:25:33 2009 From: timo.lindfors at iki.fi (Timo Juhani Lindfors) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:25:33 +0300 Subject: swap partition seems faster than a swap file (Re: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes) In-Reply-To: <4AA23334.4050105@wollishausen.de> (Matthias Huber's message of "Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:45:24 +0200") References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> <84vdjx21tl.fsf@sauna.l.org> <4AA23334.4050105@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <84hbvg1nuq.fsf_-_@sauna.l.org> Matthias Huber writes: > afaik, it is much faster than file. On a computer with 256M ram and compact flash as storage I ran #include #include #include #include #define BUFSIZE (400*1024*1024) int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char *p; int i; int ret; puts("allocating memory"); p = malloc(BUFSIZE); assert(p); puts("writing to memory"); for (i = 0; i < BUFSIZE; i++) { p[i] ^= 3; } puts("reading from memory"); for (i = 0; i < BUFSIZE; i++) { ret ^= p[i]; } return ret; } with both cases. It seems that partition is somewhat faster indeed: 256M swap partition: $ for i in 1 2 3 4; do time ./a.out ; done allocating memory writing to memory reading from memory real 3m47.793s user 0m27.282s sys 0m5.592s allocating memory writing to memory reading from memory real 3m16.614s user 0m27.114s sys 0m5.624s allocating memory writing to memory reading from memory real 3m10.966s user 0m27.010s sys 0m5.456s allocating memory writing to memory reading from memory real 3m14.328s user 0m27.106s sys 0m5.160s 256M swap file: allocating memory writing to memory reading from memory real 6m19.494s user 0m27.630s sys 0m6.956s allocating memory writing to memory reading from memory real 3m49.047s user 0m27.698s sys 0m5.028s allocating memory writing to memory reading from memory real 4m18.462s user 0m27.442s sys 0m5.296s allocating memory writing to memory reading from memory real 4m1.905s user 0m27.858s sys 0m4.928s From psonek2 at seznam.cz Sun Sep 6 10:44:12 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:44:12 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - i there a gps application included? In-Reply-To: References: <1252088629.3683.6.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: <1252226653.18168.16.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Ok, so I need a swap partition too? I havent tested how much swap partition helps. But i have 128MB swap on /dev/mmcblk0p4 and it's hardcoded in QtMoko fstab. > I better get myself a new sd card then, the original 512MB one doesn't > have very much space free (I just created a single partition on it). > How big shoud this swap partition be? Depends on how much memory the program you want to run eats. You can check memory with top command or in "System info". 64MB should help for TangoGPS. > The only thing I can find on thw wiki about Swap is this: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SwapSpace > and it talks about a swap file, not a swap partition. Havent tried swap file. But it should be no problem since it's debian. Regards Radek From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 11:29:37 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 11:29:37 +0200 Subject: [SHR] Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() Message-ID: Hi! Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged When will shr get rid of this annoying message? It just makes development (on the phone) a real PITA. Or there is already an updated dbus package which fix this issue? If the root cause cant be fixed, at least should be dbus patched to not output this f*cking annoying message every line. Look at this output: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/138295/ The real thing is burried into this dbus warning. Just slowes everybody down. Can it be fixed? Laszlo From risto at kurppa.fi Sun Sep 6 11:43:09 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:43:09 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Thomas Landspurg wrote: > ?That's exactly the objective.There is a clear difference and > complementarity between a general purpose database and the > "CellsHunter" game for instance. The good news is that we are > progressing well with CellsHunter to integrate their database. I think this should be something done ~weekly; syncing the databases. > ?I still hope to convince OpenBMap to don't recreate another database > focused on OpenMoko but use and improve a general purpose project. I can't see why openbmap would focus on OpenMoko more than any other projects. They talk about Windows Mobile and Freerunner on the front page > I > am sure that that's the spirit of Onen, but it seems that we had some > communication issue that I should be solved soon. I don't know about your issues, just don't let it effect your co-operation. If you think it's good to work together, do it. > ?The final benefit, at the end, is to provide the best not in only in > term of coverage but also in terms of accuracy database. OpenBmap stores this data: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/myposition/wiki/log_format * mcc * mnc * lon * lat * alt * heading * speed * hdop * vdop * pdop * swid: software id of the logger * swver: software version of the logger * lac: decimal value * id: decimal value of the cell id * ss: signal strength in dBm * rxlev: optional * ta: timing advance, optional * speed: in km/h OpenCellID stores these (source: http://opencellid.org/api) mcc: mobile country code(decimal) mnc: mobile network code(decimal) lac: locale area code (in decimal) cellid: value of the cell id (in decimal) measured_at (optionnal) the time of the measure... lat:latitude when the measure has been taken lon:longitude when the measure has been taken CellHunter seems to be the app-specific you were talking about. Didn't find specs to tell what data it sends (didn't check the source). I think alt, speed and GPS precision etc information can be useful in calculating the position of the cells. > ?As a reminder, we are open to any suggestion on how to imprement the > API, features, missing fields, etc..... Please add sopport for at least alt, speed, heading, hdop, vdop, pdop, signal strength. If the projects plan to share their data, all projects should gather the same (full!) data of the cells to reach the highest possible precision. Coverage is something you'll be able to reach by everyone focusing on their own projects AND sharing the data. I must say I like opencellID API: it has clear addresses how to put/get cell information or GPS location. THis is something where openbmap is behind. And if OpenCellID has a nice api, it's good, but if I see that it doesn't use speed nor hdop/vdop/alt in calculating the location I trust openbmap more - but it's lacking the proper API. -> work for both of you to do. Focus on it, not in rhetorics & communication issues. Just make your project better than the other one is and share the data. It's the best for the community! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From risto at kurppa.fi Sun Sep 6 11:55:25 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:55:25 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > OpenBmap stores this data: > http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/myposition/wiki/log_format > > * mcc > * mnc > * lon > * lat > * alt > * heading > * speed > * hdop > * vdop > * pdop > * swid: software id of the logger > * swver: software version of the logger > * lac: decimal value > * id: decimal value of the cell id > * ss: signal strength in dBm > * rxlev: optional > * ta: timing advance, optional > * speed: in km/h > > OpenCellID stores these (source: http://opencellid.org/api) > > mcc: mobile country code(decimal) > mnc: mobile network code(decimal) > lac: locale area code (in decimal) > cellid: value of the cell id (in decimal) > measured_at (optionnal) the time of the measure... > lat:latitude when the measure has been taken > lon:longitude when the measure has been taken Ok, downloaded the cellhunter database, this is what it stores: provider cell_mcc cell_mnc cell_la cell_id cell_arfcn signal gps_time gps_lat gps_long gps_alt gname local_time cell_type IL ORANGE 425 1 3AFC A2F9 92 19 1252151461 32.3668973 34.8627705 17.44 Baruch 1252185642 old_oldgps_near IL ORANGE 425 1 3AFC 7D54 630 6 1252151461 32.3668973 34.8627705 17.44 Baruch 1252185370 old_oldgps_near IL ORANGE 425 1 1D60 79CD 107 17 1252151461 32.3668973 34.8627705 17.44 Baruch 1252185368 new_gps altitude is stored, good speed missing, bad hdop/vdop/pdop missing heading missing (ok, I can't right now see how to use it but why not to store it, it might become useful in the future..) cell arfcn, no idea what's that.. So anyway also cellhunter could add some fields here and as it's on Freerunner only, it shouldn't be too hard to also add the support to the client. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From risto at kurppa.fi Sun Sep 6 12:01:00 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:01:00 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Btw you all three (openbmap, cellhunter, opencellid) devels are warmly welcome to join FOSS-GPS -mailing list (http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps) - I'd like to see discussion about the algorithms you use to calculate the position of the cells. It must be something else than just the average... As a used I'd like to know it but also I think there's some optimization to be done in the field. If OpenBMap uses also speed & GPS precision information & alt in the calculation, I'd like to see the algorithm.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From maxious at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 12:32:57 2009 From: maxious at gmail.com (Alex (Maxious) Sadleir) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:32:57 +1000 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1e5d79990909060332x797cb10dg6d7627ecb5b3e97b@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > Ok, downloaded the cellhunter database, this is what it stores: > > provider ? ? ? ?cell_mcc ? ? ? ?cell_mnc ? ? ? ?cell_la cell_id cell_arfcn ? ? ?signal ?gps_time ? ? ? ?gps_lat gps_long ? ? ? ?gps_alt gname ? local_time ? ? ?cell_type > IL ORANGE ? ? ? 425 ? ? 1 ? ? ? 3AFC ? ?A2F9 ? ?92 ? ? ?19 ? ? ?1252151461 ? ? ?32.3668973 ? ? ?34.8627705 ? ? ?17.44 ? Baruch ?1252185642 ? ? ?old_oldgps_near > IL ORANGE ? ? ? 425 ? ? 1 ? ? ? 3AFC ? ?7D54 ? ?630 ? ? 6 ? ? ? 1252151461 ? ? ?32.3668973 ? ? ?34.8627705 ? ? ?17.44 ? Baruch ?1252185370 ? ? ?old_oldgps_near > IL ORANGE ? ? ? 425 ? ? 1 ? ? ? 1D60 ? ?79CD ? ?107 ? ? 17 ? ? ?1252151461 ? ? ?32.3668973 ? ? ?34.8627705 ? ? ?17.44 ? Baruch ?1252185368 ? ? ?new_gps > > altitude is stored, good > speed missing, bad > hdop/vdop/pdop missing > heading missing (ok, I can't right now see how to use it but why not > to store it, it might become useful in the future..) > cell arfcn, no idea what's that.. > > So anyway also cellhunter could add some fields here and as it's on > Freerunner only, it shouldn't be too hard to also add the support to > the client. > I looked at "common api to submit cells" and found that the openmoko OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api wanted. Both being opensource, here's my hackish solution to patch the OBM logger to write that field and a python script to submit records produced by that patched OBM to cellhunter. You have to run this after collecting the logs but before you move them to the Processed Logs folder in OBM. So I do it before I do Upload in the OBM logger app. YMMV, hopefully the real logger app developers can work something out between themselves. -------------- next part -------------- from xml.dom import minidom import os,dbus,urllib """ OBMhunter submitter 0.1.0 Submits appropriate openBMap xml logs to cellhunter DB. Installation: Patch the openBMap logger library: patch < obm_hunter-logger.py.patch Change the group name (gname), group password (gpass) and device id (a random number - check .cellhunter.conf if you want to be consistent) if you want your results to count for a group's score. Otherwise leave defaults to remain anonymous. Then just run the OBM logger as usual but you have to run this script after collecting the logs but before you move them to the Processed Logs folder in OBM. So I do it before I do Upload in the OBM logger app. """ gname="" gpass="" device_id=0 bus = dbus.SystemBus() ogsmd_obj = bus.get_object( "org.freesmartphone.ogsmd", "/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device" ) ogsmd_network_iface = dbus.Interface( ogsmd_obj, "org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network" ) data = ogsmd_network_iface.GetStatus() provider = urllib.quote(data['provider']) path="/home/root/.openBmap/Logs/" dirList=os.listdir(path) for fname in dirList: print "Processing " + fname dom = minidom.parse(path + fname) for scannode in dom.getElementsByTagName("scan"): for gpsnode in scannode.getElementsByTagName("gps"): time = int(gpsnode.getAttribute("time")) lat = float(gpsnode.getAttribute("lat")) long = float(gpsnode.getAttribute("lng")) alt = float(gpsnode.getAttribute("alt")) for child in scannode.childNodes: if "gsm" in child.tagName: cell_mcc = int(child.getAttribute("mcc")) cell_mnc = int(child.getAttribute("mnc")) cell_la = int(child.getAttribute("lac")) cell_id = int(child.getAttribute("id")) if (child.getAttribute("rxlev") != "") & (child.getAttribute("arfcn") != ""): signal = int(child.getAttribute("rxlev")) cell_arfcn = int(child.getAttribute("arfcn")) serving = 1 if (child.tagName == "gsmserving") else 0 URL = "http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/submit.php?provider=%s&cell_mcc=%d&cell_mnc=%d&cell_la=%x&cell_id=%x&signal=%d&time=%d&lat=%f&long=%f&alt=%f&gname=%s&gpass=%s&device_id=%d&cell_arfcn=%d&serving=%d " %(provider, cell_mcc,cell_mnc,cell_la,cell_id,signal,time,lat,long,alt,gname,gpass,device_id,cell_arfcn,serving) os.system('wget --user-agent "OBMhunter 0.1.0 offline " -q --output-document=- \"' + URL + '\"') print "\n" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So the ringing works, but no sound either on the callee > side nor on the caller side. > > > However if you dont disable it, it will bring app shr's white screen with > the > tiny phone number in the middle. Dunno how to disable it. > > Would be nice to know how a proper calling sequence are built. > So what exactly is needed to send on the dbus. > > Im really lost here. > > Laszlo Just uncomment scenario handling in rules.yaml. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 12:39:07 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:39:07 +0200 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: <20090905162303.GB9894@vip.cybercity.dk> References: <1250712089.3744.97.camel@shamet> <20090819210626.GE5030@roque.1407.org> <1250718013.3762.14.camel@shamet> <2f3aa2770908191611jbbb3178td2df508dc9304e9f@mail.gmail.com> <1250725983.3762.61.camel@shamet> <1250737002059-3476622.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820072107.GF5030@roque.1407.org> <20090905162303.GB9894@vip.cybercity.dk> Message-ID: On 9/5/09, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:21:07AM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: >> Just a few more cents from me... >> >> Have you guys ever seen one of those "other" smartphones booting? They >> take >> ages too. The main difference is that we have to boot more often :) > > Do we? I can't comment on your SHR problems because I don't use it, but > Debian doesn't exactly need rebooting. Just put in a menu entry to restart > fso-frameworkd that you can quickly get to when the screen blanker part > stops reacting to screen touches. How old frameworkd do you have in Debian? All issues with IdleNotifier should be already fixed! -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From david at garabana.com Sun Sep 6 12:40:47 2009 From: david at garabana.com (David Garabana Barro) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:40:47 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252219598863-3591634.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <200909051823.48074.david@garabana.com> <1252219598863-3591634.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <200909061240.50947.david@garabana.com> O Domingo, 6 de Setembro de 2009, c_c escribiu: > Hi, Hi! > There is some wierdness with scandir. Apparently it only returns the > correct type on ext 2,3 fs. With reiserfs - this doesn't happen. All > directories are hence not recgonised and hence so scanning takes place. > I've made some changes that correctly calculates the type using stat(). > Can you try the binary in the message above? It should solve the issues > (but might be a little slower - as if it could after the tag scanning bit > :-). Thanks I have tried http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3591628/intone, with no success. Dirs are still seen as files... Is that the binary I should try? Thank you! PS I think this is related to: http://www.mail-archive.com/reiserfs-list at namesys.com/msg16450.html -- David Garabana Barro jabber & google talk ID: david at garabana.com Clave p?blica PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/5f9ec890/attachment-0001.pgp From risto at kurppa.fi Sun Sep 6 12:49:52 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:49:52 +0300 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: <1e5d79990909060332x797cb10dg6d7627ecb5b3e97b@mail.gmail.com> References: <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> <1e5d79990909060332x797cb10dg6d7627ecb5b3e97b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > I looked at "common api to submit cells" and found that the openmoko > OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api > wanted. Both being opensource, here's my hackish solution to patch the > OBM logger to write that field and a python script to submit records > produced by that patched OBM to cellhunter. You have to run this after > collecting the logs but before you move them to the Processed Logs > folder in OBM. So I do it before I do Upload in the OBM logger app. > YMMV, hopefully the real logger app developers can work something out > between themselves. Nice hack! Do you have any idea what's arfcn - how do you generate it? If you can generate it after the data's collected, couldn't it be created server-side (to me it sound's redundant information if it's generated from other data). And I don't support the idea of one client uploading to several databases, the databases should do the syncing.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From david at garabana.com Sun Sep 6 12:59:27 2009 From: david at garabana.com (David Garabana Barro) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:59:27 +0200 Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: <1252219598863-3591634.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <200909051823.48074.david@garabana.com> <1252219598863-3591634.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <200909061259.30669.david@garabana.com> O Domingo, 6 de Setembro de 2009, c_c escribiu: > There is some wierdness with scandir. Apparently it only returns the > correct type on ext 2,3 fs. With reiserfs - this doesn't happen. All > directories are hence not recgonised and hence so scanning takes place. > I've made some changes that correctly calculates the type using stat(). > Can you try the binary in the message above? It should solve the issues > (but might be a little slower - as if it could after the tag scanning bit > :-). Thanks It seems d_type only works with ext2/3, so I bet it should also fail with NFS (and any non ext2-3 fs). I will try and let you know. -- David Garabana Barro jabber & google talk ID: david at garabana.com Clave p?blica PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/dc3a7133/attachment.pgp From openmoko at ginguppin.de Sun Sep 6 13:00:49 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:00:49 +0200 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: References: <1250712089.3744.97.camel@shamet> <20090819210626.GE5030@roque.1407.org> <1250718013.3762.14.camel@shamet> <2f3aa2770908191611jbbb3178td2df508dc9304e9f@mail.gmail.com> <1250725983.3762.61.camel@shamet> <1250737002059-3476622.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820072107.GF5030@roque.1407.org> <20090905162303.GB9894@vip.cybercity.dk> Message-ID: > How old frameworkd do you have in Debian? All issues with IdleNotifier > should be already fixed! the official one is still 5.1, and there are packages by heiko st?bner for 5.5 from mid-august (i guess, the packages are from august 20th). isn't there a way to follow the shr releases for debian? it would speed up the release cycles a lot. From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 13:03:43 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:03:43 +0200 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: References: <20090819210626.GE5030@roque.1407.org> <1250718013.3762.14.camel@shamet> <2f3aa2770908191611jbbb3178td2df508dc9304e9f@mail.gmail.com> <1250725983.3762.61.camel@shamet> <1250737002059-3476622.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820072107.GF5030@roque.1407.org> <20090905162303.GB9894@vip.cybercity.dk> Message-ID: On 9/6/09, arne anka wrote: >> How old frameworkd do you have in Debian? All issues with IdleNotifier >> should be already fixed! > > the official one is still 5.1, and there are packages by heiko st?bner for > 5.5 from mid-august (i guess, the packages are from august 20th). > isn't there a way to follow the shr releases for debian? it would speed up > the release cycles a lot. SHR uses always newest frameworkd from git, as frameworkd from git is rather kept stable all the time ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From yoush at debian.org Sun Sep 6 13:20:01 2009 From: yoush at debian.org (Nikita V. Youshchenko) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 15:20:01 +0400 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200909061520.01608@blacky.localdomain> > > How old frameworkd do you have in Debian? All issues with IdleNotifier > > should be already fixed! > > the official one is still 5.1, and there are packages by heiko st?bner > for 5.5 from mid-august (i guess, the packages are from august 20th). > isn't there a way to follow the shr releases for debian? it would speed > up the release cycles a lot. I hope that we will improve the situation and will constantly provide more or less up-to-date fso in debian. Just things take some time because of the nature of debian. Nikita -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/00936527/attachment.pgp From openmoko at ginguppin.de Sun Sep 6 13:23:46 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:23:46 +0200 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: References: <20090819210626.GE5030@roque.1407.org> <1250718013.3762.14.camel@shamet> <2f3aa2770908191611jbbb3178td2df508dc9304e9f@mail.gmail.com> <1250725983.3762.61.camel@shamet> <1250737002059-3476622.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090820072107.GF5030@roque.1407.org> <20090905162303.GB9894@vip.cybercity.dk> Message-ID: > SHR uses always newest frameworkd from git, as frameworkd from git is > rather kept stable all the time ;) ok. brings me back to my old question: how does one create deban packages from git? From openmoko at ginguppin.de Sun Sep 6 13:26:40 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:26:40 +0200 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: <200909061520.01608@blacky.localdomain> References: <200909061520.01608@blacky.localdomain> Message-ID: > Just things take some time because of the nature of debian. sure. but the nature of debian plus low man power in pkg-fso adds up to a rather large delay. i am still confused by the complexity of creating deb packages and i don't use git so far (and probably will not until a working eclipse plugin is avaliable with functionality comparable to the cvs and svn ones), thus i can't even create packages of fso for my own use. hopefully things will clear up a bit in the fall, when i got more time. From maxious at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 13:53:03 2009 From: maxious at gmail.com (Alex (Maxious) Sadleir) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:53:03 +1000 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> <1e5d79990909060332x797cb10dg6d7627ecb5b3e97b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1e5d79990909060453y690b1113vd9f44513e3910078@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: >> I looked at "common api to submit cells" and found that the openmoko >> OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api >> wanted. Both being opensource, here's my hackish solution to patch the >> OBM logger to write that field and a python script to submit records >> produced by that patched OBM to cellhunter. You have to run this after >> collecting the logs but before you move them to the Processed Logs >> folder in OBM. So I do it before I do Upload in the OBM logger app. >> YMMV, hopefully the real logger app developers can work something out >> between themselves. > > Nice hack! > > Do you have any idea what's arfcn - how do you generate it? If you can > generate it after the data's collected, couldn't it be created > server-side (to me it sound's redundant information if it's generated > from other data). "ARFCN (Absolute Radio Frequency Channel Number) specifies a pair of physical radio carriers and channels used for transmission and reception on the Um Interface in GSM cellular networks, one for the uplink signal and one for the downlink signal." So it's data to be collected from the cell station rather than something that could be generated/assumed/estimated. Without seeing the cellhunter location algorithm, I don't know how it helps location calculation either... but if the other two DB don't store it, then it can't be that important, right? ;) > > And I don't support the idea of one client uploading to several > databases, the databases should do the syncing.. Well I was having to run the loggers in parallel anyway but it's easier to get one working consistently rather than two... and I prefer the way the OBM logger is designed anyway :) DB sync is where it should be though. I've uploaded different areas to either cellhunter or OBM so it would be good to get them combined efficently. From t.landspurg at 8motions.com Sun Sep 6 13:57:02 2009 From: t.landspurg at 8motions.com (Thomas Landspurg) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:57:02 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab347b00909021528x595ef70vb370db89c223065@mail.gmail.com> <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ab347b00909060457m1df6c887r15ae631c139c9796@mail.gmail.com> Hello Risto, note that strengh is already part of the opencellid api. As I've pointed out once, the problem is not all client have access to these data. So do we add all possible fields in the database? Out of the 45 millions of measures, only several millions might have all these data. My suggestion, implemented today in the opencellid api is the following: add the missing informaiton in the extraInfo field, as tag/value. For instance, extraInfo="speed=123,alt=12,hdop=12,vdop=6" etc..... This is already used by some tools for instance the cellhunter importer put the team name as "gteam=" value. Then, the algorithm to define the cell might use these extra info. The bad thing is that it would by quite difficult to do query on this extra things. I do not thing that it's the biggest issue. The other problem might be that we need to find a common naming for all possible new fields and ensure validity. For instance, use alt and not altitude, etc.... One possible option is to add hese as extra possible parameters so it will be checked, but store them as value/pair. Other fields could be added also, to store for instance user agent instead of software version for others type of platforms, or accuracy but not defined in hdop/vdop value but in others type (see JSR179 or Android API). Any opininon on this. -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org From rakshat at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 13:59:49 2009 From: rakshat at gmail.com (rakshat hooja) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 17:29:49 +0530 Subject: Any news about Project B? In-Reply-To: References: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> Message-ID: <69a2e4550909060459h5ca5c2b2rb6a430fef53a0d96@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Michael Tansella > wrote: > > Hi, > > are there any news about Project B? > > Valid question! > We want to know! > +1 Rakshat > > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- -------------- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/481c0a21/attachment.htm From t.landspurg at 8motions.com Sun Sep 6 14:00:48 2009 From: t.landspurg at 8motions.com (Thomas Landspurg) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:00:48 +0200 Subject: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server) In-Reply-To: References: <26fea52c0909030035i6ac5249fv1c862dc5111db4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9ab347b00909030240k23f94591p3cf737427f64f491@mail.gmail.com> <4AA00167.9020209@free.fr> <9ab347b00909060115j326685a4w4c0eb052e8898d64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ab347b00909060500p2ef8e5acxdfc9c1ebfc0d55b1@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the information, I'll subscribe to it. 2009/9/6 Risto H. Kurppa : > Btw you all three (openbmap, cellhunter, opencellid) devels are warmly > welcome to join FOSS-GPS -mailing list > (http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps) - I'd like to see > discussion about the algorithms you use to calculate the position of > the cells. It must be something else than just the average... As a > used I'd like to know it but also I think there's some optimization to > be done in the field. If OpenBMap uses also speed & GPS precision > information & alt in the calculation, I'd like to see the algorithm.. > > > r > > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org From openmoko.marko at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 14:38:03 2009 From: openmoko.marko at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marko_Kn=F6bl?=) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:38:03 +0200 Subject: Additional editing guidelines for distribution manuals (Was: SHR first experiences & user manual) In-Reply-To: <3bea40950908271251g3caab566nedfcfac4b73f174f@mail.gmail.com> References: <3bea40950908271251g3caab566nedfcfac4b73f174f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3bea40950909060538g53fbfceake3daa8d270765f74@mail.gmail.com> 2009/8/27, Marko Kn?bl : > 2009/8/27, Risto H. Kurppa : >> Hi! >> >> Sorry for an ugly post. >> >> Now that I also decided to go for SHR I was requested [1] to check if >> the SHR user manual is factually correct. >> >> So here are some comments: >> >> "SHR (Stable Hybrid Release) is here to provide you with Root >> FileSystem images that you can easily install onto your Freerunner to >> use as a daily phone. It's filled with prepackaged software that can >> be installed upon demand by users" >> >> So I can off-line install the packaged apps? No, I bet you mean that >> is has stuff pre-installed and you can get more from the >> repositories.. >> >> Reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#SHR_Specific and >> I already have the feeling that this hass too many tech stuff.. 'root >> filesystem image', 'ophonekitd' - is that stuff really required here >> to be able to use it? I prefer a nice smooth experience, easy for >> beginners too. Do I now need to go and find out what's ophonekitd? >> >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Stability >> Maybe the difference of testing and unstable should be written here, >> not in the introduction? >> >> btw. a screenshot (or logo when there is one) would be nice to see on >> top of the manual page, it just would make it again a bit more >> appealing. >> >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Installation >> >> Maybe the differencies of lite and normal image should be explained >> _before_ you tell where to get them? And somewhere later tell how to >> upgrade -lite to normal >> >> AFAIK only -lite images are currently available? (ok, dos1 explained >> newest fat images were broken and he removed it) >> >> Maybe 'source code' should not be in the 'installation' chapter but >> more of 'devel' or something like that. >> >> Image content: it'd be nice if there were links from the items to home >> pages. What's illume? What's vala-terminal? What's pythm? >> >> Installation: it might not be a bad idea to remind people to upgrade >> the phone firmware and QI/uboot (and maybe tell which one is more >> popular - see http://www.doodle.com/svvsubwnyn4zaxd3 ) >> >> Anyway, these are the files I flashed: >> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk 69992448 2009-08-08 17:49 lite-om-gta02.jffs2 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk 28596 2009-08-26 19:05 >> qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr243+36bb5c03756268ff15b2d95a043ffb39a919ce5c.udfu >> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk 1832764 2009-08-16 23:32 >> uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119838+2d158aae9d8d36f575504f59884ed8e80802efe2-r3.5-om-gta02.bin >> >> flashing. >> >> I'd like to be able to have a dir on my uSD and mount it automatically >> as /home (on om2009 that was the folder bind-home on uSD) but I guess >> manually editing fstab will have to do. Maybe that should be explained >> somewhere here? >> >> How come the check of version is explained before the booting process? >> >> booting. >> >> Initial setup: >> Some lines about the possibilities there would be nice.. How on earth >> do I know what profile to select? Or what 'quick launch' is? Or why do >> I have to see screens where I only can select one item? ('irc' told me >> that the quick launch menu has no effect.. nice...) >> >> rebooting. >> >> Screenshot showing the wrench would be nice. >> >> The manual explains directly the wrench options - maybe SHR settings >> would be more important for usual settings instead of double click >> stuff etc.. >> >> Maybe explaining SHR post-installation SCP commands could be done on >> SHR post-installation page instead of the manual. I think it's enough >> to explain what is it and why to run it and then link to the page. >> >> It isn't also told anywhere to run opkg update;opkg upgrade. >> >> Post-installation script would run opkg update, not upgrade. And >> here's a discussion telling the benefits of the script: >> >> 13:41 < rhkfin> Should I run the SHR post-installation script at >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_post-installation >> 13:42 < rhkfin> (as recommended in the SHR manual) >> 13:42 < DocScrutinizer> never heard of >> 13:43 < dos1> neither me >> 13:43 < DocScrutinizer> even "SHR-manual" !? wow o.O >> 13:43 < rhkfin> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual >> 13:44 < dos1> cellhunter? >> 13:44 < dos1> ... >> 13:44 < dos1> use openBmap ;P >> 13:44 < rhkfin> no, not cellhunter :) >> 13:44 < rhkfin> yes I will :) >> 13:44 < rhkfin> (being in ~top5 there :) >> 13:44 < dos1> Navit is already newest in SHR repo >> 13:44 < dos1> ffalarms is in image >> 13:44 < rhkfin> obexpush? >> 13:45 < dos1> dates/tasks - will be replaced by opimd apps soon and in >> shr image by default >> 13:45 < dos1> obexpush - hmm... i'll look at it and maybe include in >> image >> 13:45 < rhkfin> and I won't need them anyway.. >> 13:45 < rhkfin> dos1: ok, great >> 13:45 < dos1> mokomaze.... why isn't it in fat image by default? o_O >> 13:45 < dos1> cellhunter - no comment :P >> 13:46 < rhkfin> dos1: is there a fat image around? I only find lite.. >> 13:46 < dos1> rhkfin: newest fat image was broken >> 13:46 < dos1> rhkfin: so i removed it >> 13:46 < rhkfin> dos1: ah, ok >> 13:46 < dos1> rhkfin: on next regeneration it should be there back >> 13:46 ::: kvaster [n=kvaster at 93.84.112.80] has joined #openmoko-cdevel >> 13:47 < dos1> that script is useless >> 13:47 < rhkfin> I agree.. >> 13:47 < dos1> SHR is open distro, so instead of doing such scripts >> they should improve default image ;x >> >> >> The manual should tell the USB-ssh-thing BEFORE suggesting the >> postinstallationfail -script. >> >> Replaced gsmhandset with >> http://www.kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state >> >> How about preferring nano over vi? I think nano - telling people what >> to press, might be more friendlier. People who know stuff will use vi >> anyway.. >> >> Edited /etc/phone-utils.conf (btw it all was on one single line.. >> Don't know if that's good or not..) >> >> opkg was called opkg-cl - I think I saw somewhere that this is a known >> bug. >> >> apps: >> ffalarms - installed by default (-> manual outdated) >> >> >> Swap - I'll skip that, I'll install another uSD soon with debian.. >> >> Init opkg database - the > packages.txt - thing sound's stupid to me. >> Maybe explain here some general package management stuff.. like opkg >> upgrade. >> >> >> SHR is shipped without root password (just press enter) - this should >> be told already somewhere near the usb-ssh -part. >> >> Locate lost phone by GPS and openbmap - maybe stuff like this >> shouldn't be explained in the manual? Maybe just link to a site with >> apps listed (sound's like the future application showroom :) >> >> opkg update;opkg upgrade took looong, maybe an hour or so. >> >> Localization - this is more interesting and important againt! >> How about some locale meta packaget to install tangogps-locale- packages >> etc.. >> >> opkg install glibc-locale-fi >> >> opkg list|grep locale-fi returns tens of packages -any changes to get >> all required/available finnish packages installed? If I install an >> app, do I need to find the locale-package myself..? >> >> opkg install libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-locale-fi shr-settings-locale-fi >> >> shr-settings-locale-fi couldn't be found :/ >> >> Adding >> export LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 >> export LC_ALL=fi_FI >> to /etc/profile >> >> root at om-gta02 /usr/share/shr/scenarii $ opkg list | grep illume-dic >> e-wm-illume-dict-pl - >> 1.0-gitr185+cff6bbd4b6773629e4172654a01bef63862f037d-r0 - Polish >> dictionary for Illume keyboard >> e-wm-illume-dict-pl-dbg - >> 1.0-gitr185+cff6bbd4b6773629e4172654a01bef63862f037d-r0 - Polish >> dictionary for Illume keyboard >> e-wm-illume-dict-pl-dev - >> 1.0-gitr185+cff6bbd4b6773629e4172654a01bef63862f037d-r0 - Polish >> dictionary for Illume keyboard >> root at om-gta02 /usr/share/shr/scenarii $ >> >> >> Maybe some other languages should be added :) >> >> ran echo "" > /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts/None.dic >> >> SHR settings - please explain this before any navigation/gps map stuff... >> >> I see that opkg doesn't have tab-expansion. Badly needed, a pain to >> opkg list |grep every time! >> >> >> >> Between data sync and car navigation you explain 'reporting bugs'? The >> best place for it? No.. >> >> Navit installation can be done from default repo, no need to add >> custom repo or do the libgps trick. >> >> Don't explain navit maps here, it really isn't core SHR. Link to navit >> documentation (and fix it there if it isn't good enough). Don't >> duplicate.. >> >> UI didn't go through the SHR settings part, I'll figure it out myself. >> >> opkg install navit tangogps pidgin openbmap-logger numptyphysics >> mokomaze openmoocow omgps gpe-scap coreutils-locale-fi nano-locale-fi >> pidgin-locale-fi >> >> Installing software is explained in the very end of the howto. Not good. >> >> Replace dropbear with openssh - why should I want to do this? >> >> System customizing, didn't really read it. >> >> I suggest you split the documentation to more than one site: >> 'installation' 'applications' 'settings' 'connectivity' or something >> like that, and create a wiki category and table of contents or >> something, just to make it easier to read. >> >> opkg install navit-locale-fi tangogps-locale-fi >> There. Anyway I think I now have a working SHR installed and I hope >> thesee comments will help improving both SHR and the howto. >> >> Thanks people for your work! It's great that you've done work on the >> manual, it has lots of good stuff in there! >> >> (next I'll try Paroli on SHR.. :) >> >> And sorry for a messy post.. >> >> >> r >> >> [1] >> http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/great-news-from-the-openmoko-community/#comments >> >> -- >> | risto h. kurppa >> | risto at kurppa dot fi >> | http://risto.kurppa.fi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community at lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > After reading this excellent statement from Risto I realized that we > should expand the guidelines for writing manuals on the Wiki [1] > > The issues I want to address with these additional rules are: > 1) If there is a problem with a distribution several editors are > adjusting the instructions on the manuals instead of reporting bugs. > 2) The SHR manual is getting very long because there is much > information on additional applications (Risto mentions Navit and > sms-sentry) > > I'd propose adding these additional rules to the Wiki Editing Guidelines: > > 1) As the distributions are still under development the manuals may be > helpful by presenting important known issues and how to fix them. If > you want to add a notification about an issue to the manual, always > add an invisible comment with an URL to a bug report for the problem. > For example (this is an obsolete problem which occured in SHR): > "Please note that the standard SHR alarm application does not work if > the phone is suspended. You can fix this problem by installing > ffalarms " > If there is no bug report yet you will have to create one. Reported > problems which do not link to a bug report or link to a closed bug > report should/can be deleted. > > 2) In the distribution manuals there should only be instructions for > applications which are preinstalled on this distribution. If you want > to write a manual about an application which is not preinstalled on > the distribution you may create a seperate manual for that application > or use the application page. > > Is it okay if I add these rules to the Editing Guidelines? > > [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#Manuals > Hi! I have just updated the Editing Guidelines. I diverted a little from my original proposal. I hope that's okay. Further comments are welcome! marko From tingox at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 15:09:46 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 15:09:46 +0200 Subject: sdcrard - most common partition layout? Message-ID: Hello, I just got myself a new SDcard for my FreeRunner (2 GB). Now I'm wondering what is the most common layout people use on their SD crds? I have ecently learned that QtMoko needs a swap partition (and that it is hardcoded to p4). What other partitions is useful on the card? I am thinking that since Qi (the boot loader) doesn't have a menu, putting more than one system on a card is not that useful. Am I right? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Am I right? > -- > Regards, > Torfinn Ingolfsen I use a 4GB card setup as below: 1st : ~500MB - Primary OS (SHR-U, updated often) 2nd : ~500MB - Backup OS (SHR-U, migrated from primary) - Migration is when I'm content with a working version of my Primary 3rd : ~3GB - Data (Music, Maps, backups, etc) - Music, Maps and the rest are sym-linked to the /home/root on the Primary/Secondary OSs I also have a failsafe (old but nicely working image on NAND) but that's rarely used outside of me doing something dumb with the uSD card. I do not use a swap file (for better or worse), so one is not included. Switching to my alternate OS is easy with Qi, just needs a bit of timing. My OS partitions are a bit bigger then required for the SHR image, but I have the room, and I'd rather err on the side of providing too much room rather then not enough. I hope that helps, Kind regards, Toaster -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-) Cheers, Joseph 2009/9/2 c_c : > > Hi, > ?I used to use the -ck patches for my kernels while they were around and > they were always more responsive on my desktop than the standard kernels. > ?If this makes the FR more responsive - its would be worthwhile trying - > just to see if it makes any difference at all. > ?Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Interesting-Linux-development-for-lower-resources-machines-from-Con-Kolivas-tp3566462p3567588.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From yoush at debian.org Sun Sep 6 16:47:42 2009 From: yoush at debian.org (Nikita V. Youshchenko) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:47:42 +0400 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200909061847.48040@blacky.localdomain> > > SHR uses always newest frameworkd from git, as frameworkd from git is > > rather kept stable all the time ;) > > ok. brings me back to my old question: how does one create deban > packages from git? Debian packaging for fso components is done from git. Pkg-fso repositories in git.debian.org are clones of repositories on git.freesmartprone.org, with debian packaging files added on separate branches. Packages are built using git-builtpackage tool. Currently native build is used; either on armel machine (either freerunner itself, or debian armel autobuilder), or in qemu-pbuilder on any debian system. Cross build could be probably handled by emdebian tools - I did not try. Nikita -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Presumably mplayer was compiled with support for audio on Linux systems, so the option '-ao alsa' ought to do the trick. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year From mickey at vanille-media.de Sun Sep 6 17:10:17 2009 From: mickey at vanille-media.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 17:10:17 +0200 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: <200909061520.01608@blacky.localdomain> References: <200909061520.01608@blacky.localdomain> Message-ID: <200909061710.17946.mickey@vanille-media.de> On Sunday 06 September 2009 13:20:01 Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > How old frameworkd do you have in Debian? All issues with IdleNotifier > > > should be already fixed! > > > > the official one is still 5.1, and there are packages by heiko st?bner > > for 5.5 from mid-august (i guess, the packages are from august 20th). > > isn't there a way to follow the shr releases for debian? it would speed > > up the release cycles a lot. > > I hope that we will improve the situation and will constantly provide more > or less up-to-date fso in debian. Great. On our side, I will make sure we regularly spin tarball releases. :M: From openmoko at ginguppin.de Sun Sep 6 17:21:46 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:21:46 +0200 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: <200909061847.48040@blacky.localdomain> References: <200909061847.48040@blacky.localdomain> Message-ID: > Debian packaging for fso components is done from git. > Pkg-fso repositories in git.debian.org are clones of repositories on > git.freesmartprone.org, with debian packaging files added on separate > branches. could you give some step by step commands? how do i check out the most recent version with everything? > Packages are built using git-builtpackage tool. hm. how do i use that? > Cross build could be probably handled by emdebian tools - I did not try. i create frinst navit pacakges that way, by simply doing fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -b -aarmel so, all i need is a directory with the sources and debian/ subdir. From timo.jyrinki at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 19:45:23 2009 From: timo.jyrinki at gmail.com (Timo Jyrinki) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:45:23 +0300 Subject: Debian first experience made a bit easier... In-Reply-To: <68da43e00908290037s939975cx7eb73da1cf80a069@mail.gmail.com> References: <68da43e00908270620w7c748767r917049b06e4206b6@mail.gmail.com> <68da43e00908270717q8e9b5f2i582134438ae2ef6b@mail.gmail.com> <200908281036.17209.david@garabana.com> <1251451186.5265.22.camel@rp-glum> <68da43e00908290037s939975cx7eb73da1cf80a069@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <68da43e00909061045p6ebf47aev6f13e56d79933bf9@mail.gmail.com> 2009/8/29 Timo Jyrinki : > Unfortunately it was found out installing Debian via the install.sh > script is broken until dpkg 1.15.4 lands in unstable. 1.15.4 ARM build has now landed in the Debian archive (at least ftp.debian.org, mirrors soon follow, check ftp://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/ for armel 1.15.4 deb). Additionally install.sh was earlier updated to offer optional debootsrap-instead-of-cdebootstrap option. For this and future updates on the status of installing Debian, until proper debian-installer support is there, please see the page / section: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner#CurrentStatusofInstallation I (at least) will try to keep that up-to-date. Currently the chances of getting Debian installed with install.sh sound quite high, but I haven't tested it myself right now. Please tell your experiences if you try the installation with the tips on that page... meanwhile, I will also update the page myself if I test it with an extra SD card again some time next week. I'm quite glad with the new E17 and Zhone packages in the main Debian archive. The only package you really need from the (still enabled by default) pkg-fso archive is the kernel, so this is very good progress. The kernel is of course a hard thing and involves work from all Openmoko kernel developers who have time to get stuff upstream, but after that it would be not a big way to proper Debian installer support - which eventually even leads to a Debian stable release with official support for FreeRunner. -Timo From frederik.sdun at googlemail.com Sun Sep 6 20:00:16 2009 From: frederik.sdun at googlemail.com (Frederik Sdun) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:00:16 +0200 Subject: Any news about Project B? In-Reply-To: <69a2e4550909060459h5ca5c2b2rb6a430fef53a0d96@mail.gmail.com> References: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> <69a2e4550909060459h5ca5c2b2rb6a430fef53a0d96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090906180016.GA31660@playya-laptop> * rakshat hooja [06.09.2009 14:00]: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Michael > Tansella wrote: > > Hi, > > are there any news about Project B? > > Valid question! > We want to know! > > +1 > > Rakshat > > > > r > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- > -------------- > Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and > is also a very feature rich browser. > www.firefox.com Hi, Mirko just received his device and posted some pictures on the paroli-website [1] Regards, Frederik [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/2009/09/03/present-and-future/ > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- IRC: playya @ Freenode, Gimpnet xmpp: playya at draugr.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/c3c395e0/attachment.pgp From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 20:07:30 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:07:30 +0200 Subject: Any news about Project B? In-Reply-To: <20090906180016.GA31660@playya-laptop> References: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> <69a2e4550909060459h5ca5c2b2rb6a430fef53a0d96@mail.gmail.com> <20090906180016.GA31660@playya-laptop> Message-ID: On 9/6/09, Frederik Sdun wrote: > * rakshat hooja [06.09.2009 14:00]: >> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Risto H. Kurppa >> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Michael >> Tansella wrote: >> > Hi, >> > are there any news about Project B? >> >> Valid question! >> We want to know! >> >> +1 >> >> Rakshat >> >> >> >> r >> -- >> | risto h. kurppa >> | risto at kurppa dot fi >> | http://risto.kurppa.fi >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community at lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> -- >> -------------- >> Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware >> and >> is also a very feature rich browser. >> www.firefox.com > Hi, > > Mirko just received his device and posted some pictures on the > paroli-website [1] > > Regards, > Frederik > > [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/2009/09/03/present-and-future/ That's not "Project B" from Openmoko. That's Ben NanoNote from Qi Hardware. Project B isn't clamshell and has rather more specified purpose :P There are two possibilities about project B: - it was abbandoned 2009-08-17 - it's starting to being manufactured -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From frederik.sdun at googlemail.com Sun Sep 6 20:12:05 2009 From: frederik.sdun at googlemail.com (Frederik Sdun) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:12:05 +0200 Subject: Any news about Project B? In-Reply-To: References: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> <69a2e4550909060459h5ca5c2b2rb6a430fef53a0d96@mail.gmail.com> <20090906180016.GA31660@playya-laptop> Message-ID: <20090906181205.GB31660@playya-laptop> * Sebastian Krzyszkowiak [06.09.2009 20:08]: > On 9/6/09, Frederik Sdun wrote: > > * rakshat hooja [06.09.2009 14:00]: > >> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Risto H. Kurppa > >> wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Michael > >> Tansella wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > are there any news about Project B? > >> > >> Valid question! > >> We want to know! > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> Rakshat > >> > >> > >> > >> r > >> -- > >> | risto h. kurppa > >> | risto at kurppa dot fi > >> | http://risto.kurppa.fi > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community at lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > >> -- > >> -------------- > >> Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware > >> and > >> is also a very feature rich browser. > >> www.firefox.com > > Hi, > > > > Mirko just received his device and posted some pictures on the > > paroli-website [1] > > > > Regards, > > Frederik > > > > [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/2009/09/03/present-and-future/ > > That's not "Project B" from Openmoko. That's Ben NanoNote from Qi > Hardware. Project B isn't clamshell and has rather more specified > purpose :P > > There are two possibilities about project B: > - it was abbandoned 2009-08-17 > - it's starting to being manufactured > > -- > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > dos > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi, oh. Sorry. I thought Project B moved to Qi, too. Regards, Frederik -- IRC: playya @ Freenode, Gimpnet xmpp: playya at draugr.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/1e68dcaa/attachment.pgp From yoush at debian.org Sun Sep 6 21:02:59 2009 From: yoush at debian.org (Nikita V. Youshchenko) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 23:02:59 +0400 Subject: One second Openmoko boot? In-Reply-To: References: <200909061847.48040@blacky.localdomain> Message-ID: <200909062303.06139@blacky.localdomain> > > Debian packaging for fso components is done from git. > > Pkg-fso repositories in git.debian.org are clones of repositories on > > git.freesmartprone.org, with debian packaging files added on separate > > branches. > > could you give some step by step commands? > how do i check out the most recent version with everything? If we had "the most recent version with everything" in ready-to-build form, that would have been already uploaded to debian :) Sorry, no free time to write step-to-step guidelines. Packaging repos are at git.debian.org (search for pkg-fso there). See git manual [1] on how to clone those, add freesmartphone.org remote, fetch from there and merge new code and debian packaging together. See git-buildpackage manual [2] on how to use git-buildpackage. [1] http://git-scm.com/documentation [2] http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.html Nikita -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/53987197/attachment-0001.pgp From yoush at debian.org Sun Sep 6 21:23:58 2009 From: yoush at debian.org (Nikita V. Youshchenko) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 23:23:58 +0400 Subject: Debian first experience made a bit easier... In-Reply-To: <68da43e00909061045p6ebf47aev6f13e56d79933bf9@mail.gmail.com> References: <68da43e00908270620w7c748767r917049b06e4206b6@mail.gmail.com> <68da43e00908290037s939975cx7eb73da1cf80a069@mail.gmail.com> <68da43e00909061045p6ebf47aev6f13e56d79933bf9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909062324.03595@blacky.localdomain> > I'm quite glad with the new E17 and Zhone packages in the main Debian > archive. The only package you really need from the (still enabled by > default) pkg-fso archive is the kernel, so this is very good progress. > The kernel is of course a hard thing and involves work from all > Openmoko kernel developers who have time to get stuff upstream, but > after that it would be not a big way to proper Debian installer > support - which eventually even leads to a Debian stable release with > official support for FreeRunner. Doing debian install with (c)debootstrap, as current install.sh does and as debian installer does, although being a standard way, is somewhat questionable on slow devices such as freerunner. This is plainly slow, compared to reflashing or archive unpacking. Also it is vulnerable to temporary archive breakages, as the current story with dpkg 1.15.4 shows. Because of that, and also given quite a big challenge to make d-i working on freerunner itself (no keyboard, no serial console, etc), it may be much better to look not at d-i porting, but at archive preparation on server and untarring on user device. Optionally, such a process could be implemented as a d-i module that will run instead of (c)debootstrap. And, after all, installation is not the only thing that should work :) Besides installation, there is still a long path to make debian of freerunner as usable as debian should be. There is large, and constantly increasing number of freerunner software. Att hose need to be packaged for debian. If they won't, user will end with instaslling unpackaged software and breaking their systems. Remenber, zhone is not intended to be end-user phone app. We should package paroli, and/or litephone, and/or shr phone tools. Also, something should be done such that packages provide good user experience just after installation. For example, it's nice that mokomaze is in debian, but if you install it and run it, you will get your screen blanked after a minute. To avoid that, one needs to start mokomaze under fsoraw wrapper. Making this happen automatically while staying within debian policy could be a challenge: debian package is not for freerunner only, modifying files installed by other packages (hi hi appraw) is denied by policy, etc And it was just an example. Another one: after aptitude install mplayer, I get mplayer icon in illume, that launches mplayer gui, next to useless on freerunner. But if/when we will have intone packaged, we will want to have mplayer package installed. So somehow we should do that on freerunner, mplayer icon does not appear. And do so without altering mplayer package and staying within policy. Nikita -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/faa7bdc2/attachment.pgp From thomas.franck at gmx.com Sun Sep 6 21:24:05 2009 From: thomas.franck at gmx.com (Thomas Franck) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:24:05 +0200 Subject: Any meetings around London next week? Message-ID: <4AA40C55.4040400@gmx.com> Hi.. I'll be in London for a week from next Wednesday (9th) to Wednesday(16th)... I wondered if there's a meeting planned around that time? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. - Bjarne Stroustrup, designer of C++ (1950- ) -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 261 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/fae9eb79/attachment.pgp From vanous at penguin.cz Sun Sep 6 21:29:43 2009 From: vanous at penguin.cz (Petr Vanek) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:29:43 +0200 Subject: Any meetings around London next week? References: <4AA40C55.4040400@gmx.com> Message-ID: <20090906212943.09f47303@vanek.robe.cz> >I'll be in London for a week from next Wednesday (9th) to >Wednesday(16th)... I wondered if there's a meeting planned around that >time? well, at that time there is the Plasa show, is this just coincidence or are you attending (too)? Petr From vikas.saurabh at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 21:31:23 2009 From: vikas.saurabh at gmail.com (Vikas Saurabh) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 01:01:23 +0530 Subject: Fwd: buzzfix in India In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690907180344k65e9242bi10e81003837f15d4@mail.gmail.com> <4A645A20.4020802@gmail.com> <20090720173929.7bb0bef3@mail.sarai.net> <4A7A9E6F.3080000@gmail.com> <1cc7690908062155m58e76444qc584f55cbebecb7b@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690908140435s78e2f335w72bcf82613cbdf01@mail.gmail.com> <1250841098.5393.36.camel@ESP-PATBEN-LIN> <1cc7690908211221m3c19cb5fnf23783055a8a22f5@mail.gmail.com> <69a2e4550908232142k3760712eg4e8648eaaf492f29@mail.gmail.com> <1cc7690909010124i7a2e0314j96c70a4912dbad80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1cc7690909061231q7a750c83w2a79c1fa8b63f75e@mail.gmail.com> > Further reading: > 1024:: Hi All, Shamsul Hassan from Bangalore has posted http://neofundas.blogspot.com/2009/09/1024-hardware-fixdeep-sleep.html regarding the various options about the 1024 fix. Shamsul is basically an elec and comm guy so I believe he would be able to assess various fixes with rather professional understanding :) Things are moving a little slow out here, so I think I should at least start trying to look for components. --Vikas PS: shamsul is in the process of getting an FR pretty soon (A7 or buzz fixed A6) From openmoko at ginguppin.de Sun Sep 6 21:48:15 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:48:15 +0200 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? Message-ID: i fetched the frameworkd source tar ball from http://www.freesmartphone.org/sources/ and build a primitive deb package, because i try to figure out opimd. but i still get the same errors as with the old version: for a lot of methods i get an exception and num_id = int(rel_path[1:]) ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '' seems like rel_path is always an empty string -- and it probably is not supposed to be so. so, where should that string come from? another question: how do i get a list of missed calls? there's no method with a name looking like it would do that (but a lot with names not really comprehensible to me: Skip, Rewind, GetCallPaths, Dispose). same thing for messages and contacts. oh, and btw: where does one get python-phoneutils? From thomas.franck at gmx.com Sun Sep 6 21:54:44 2009 From: thomas.franck at gmx.com (Thomas Franck) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:54:44 +0200 Subject: Any meetings around London next week? In-Reply-To: <20090906212943.09f47303@vanek.robe.cz> References: <4AA40C55.4040400@gmx.com> <20090906212943.09f47303@vanek.robe.cz> Message-ID: <4AA41384.90401@gmx.com> Petr Vanek wrote: > well, at that time there is the Plasa show, is this just coincidence or > are you attending (too)? Pure coincidence.. I hadn't heard about it until now.. :) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 261 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090906/7ad002b8/attachment.pgp From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 21:58:27 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:58:27 +0200 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/6/09, arne anka wrote: > i fetched the frameworkd source tar ball from > http://www.freesmartphone.org/sources/ and build a primitive deb package, > because i try to figure out opimd. > but i still get the same errors as with the old version: > for a lot of methods i get an exception and > > num_id = int(rel_path[1:]) > ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '' > > seems like rel_path is always an empty string -- and it probably is not > supposed to be so. > so, where should that string come from? It's supposed to be. You have to use for instance '/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/0' dbus path while referring to contact with ID 0. > another question: how do i get a list of missed calls? > there's no method with a name looking like it would do that (but a lot > with names not really comprehensible to me: Skip, Rewind, GetCallPaths, > Dispose). same thing for messages and contacts. In pseudocode: querypath = org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query({'Direction':'in', 'Answered':0}) //querypath is now something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Queries/0 // on that path: print org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetMultipleResults(org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetResultCount) OR: for i from 0 to org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetResultCount: print org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetResult() > oh, and btw: where does one get python-phoneutils? In libphone-utils git repo, src/python directory IIRC. > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 21:59:17 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:59:17 +0200 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/6/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/6/09, arne anka wrote: >> i fetched the frameworkd source tar ball from >> http://www.freesmartphone.org/sources/ and build a primitive deb package, >> because i try to figure out opimd. >> but i still get the same errors as with the old version: >> for a lot of methods i get an exception and >> >> num_id = int(rel_path[1:]) >> ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '' >> >> seems like rel_path is always an empty string -- and it probably is not >> supposed to be so. >> so, where should that string come from? > > It's supposed to be. You have to use for instance > '/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/0' dbus path while referring to > contact with ID 0. > >> another question: how do i get a list of missed calls? >> there's no method with a name looking like it would do that (but a lot >> with names not really comprehensible to me: Skip, Rewind, GetCallPaths, >> Dispose). same thing for messages and contacts. > > In pseudocode: > querypath = org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query({'Direction':'in', > 'Answered':0}) > //querypath is now something like /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Queries/0 > // on that path: > print > org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetMultipleResults(org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetResultCount) > OR: > for i from 0 to org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetResultCount: > print org.freesmartphone.PIM.CallQuery.GetResult() > >> oh, and btw: where does one get python-phoneutils? > > In libphone-utils git repo, src/python directory IIRC. > >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community at lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > -- > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > dos > BTW - opimd-utils was created as set of test, example scripts. Look at them, opimd-cli can be really helpful to understand how to use opimd. It isn't as hard as it looks ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From openmoko at ginguppin.de Sun Sep 6 22:15:33 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:15:33 +0200 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> ... org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query({'Direction':'in', 'Answered':0}) is there a comprehensive listing of these aparams somewhere? >> In libphone-utils git repo, src/python directory IIRC. libphone0-utils is in pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org, but version libphone-utils0 0.1+git20090801-3 -- is that ok or has something changed too much? > BTW - opimd-utils was created as set of test, example scripts. Look at > them, opimd-cli can be really helpful to understand how to use opimd. did it stop eating cats now? if so, where can i get it? the git repo at http://git.shr-project.org/repo/opimd-utils.git/ does not have that nice html interface that allows downloading a snapshot as tar ball. > It isn't as hard as it looks ;) well, i figured out that much, though i think it is much different from the way other frameworkd features work. if i understand right, basically opimd creates a data structure (iterator?) in ram and returns the address. one has to iterate that structure and dispose of it afterwards. right? From openmoko at ginguppin.de Sun Sep 6 22:40:36 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:40:36 +0200 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: following http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-September/054567.html: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query {'Answered':0} ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set arguments ('{Answered:0}',) according to signature u'a{sv}': : string indices must be integers but mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query {} /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query: Query -> /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Queries/1 ??? From vikas.saurabh at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 22:58:21 2009 From: vikas.saurabh at gmail.com (Vikas Saurabh) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 02:28:21 +0530 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1cc7690909061358q703fea80n40c00e925c337fc8@mail.gmail.com> > following > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-September/054567.html: > > mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query > org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query {'Answered':0} > ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set arguments ('{Answered:0}',) according > to signature u'a{sv}': : string indices must > be integers > > but > > mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query > org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.Query {} > /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Query: Query -> > /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/Queries/1 I am unsure if you want to use mdbus so as to get exact function calls to make in your app or not...but opimd-cli ca query Answered 0 Direction in works as expected. --Vikas From openmoko at ginguppin.de Sun Sep 6 23:05:22 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:05:22 +0200 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909061358q703fea80n40c00e925c337fc8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690909061358q703fea80n40c00e925c337fc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > I am unsure if you want to use mdbus so as to get exact function calls > to make in your app or not... i am not talking about an app but an easy way to acces that kind of information. in the wiki there's a big fat warning against opimd-cli and no download link. and as i wrote i didn't find the sources either. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 00:19:21 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 00:19:21 +0200 Subject: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd? Message-ID: Hi! It looks like frameworkd plays the ringtone file by itself. I requested before it in the program, but always got AlreadyPlaying exception. I checked the rules.yaml file, but there is no rule for playing ringtone. I also observed the dbus line using mdbus -l -s, but it does not print out from where the signal arrived (it only indicates, that a service received the signal). I checked ophonekitd too, and there is also automatic ringtone playing, and looks like it is not ophonekits who requested it. Im a bit lost at this stage, I dont know how to debug further. Could somebody shred a bit of light? Best regards, Laszlo mdbus: [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Phone.CallCreated from :1.18 /org/freesmartphone/Phone (op'/org/freesmartphone/Phone/GSM/13',) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.CallStatus from :1.11 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device ( 1, 'incoming', { 'direction': 'incoming', 'line': 0, 'mode': 'voice', 'peer': '+362xxxxxxxx', 'status': 'incoming'}) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SoundStatus from :1.19 /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio ('/usr/share/sounds/ringtone_ringnroll.wav', 'playing', { }) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceChanged from :1.20 /org/freesmartphone/Usage ('Display', True, { 'policy': 0, 'refcount': 1}) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceChanged from :1.20 /org/freesmartphone/Usage ('Display', True, { 'policy': 0, 'refcount': 1}) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.SignalStrength from :1.11 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device (75,) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.Capacity from :1.19 /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/battery (94,) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.CallStatus from :1.11 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device (1, 'release', { 'status': 'release'}) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.NewCall from :1.13 /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls ('/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/58',) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.NewMissedCalls from :1.13 /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls (22,) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.MissedCall from :1.13 /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls ('/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/58',) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Phone.CallReleased from :1.18 /org/freesmartphone/Phone (op'/org/freesmartphone/Phone/GSM/13',) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Phone.Call.Released from :1.18 /org/freesmartphone/Phone/GSM/13 () [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SoundStatus from :1.19 /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio ('/usr/share/sounds/ringtone_ringnroll.wav', 'stopped', { }) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceChanged from :1.20 /org/freesmartphone/Usage ('Display', False, { 'policy': 0, 'refcount': 0}) [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.SignalStrength from :1.11 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device rules.yaml: root at om-gta02 ~ $ cat /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml # This file is in YAML format (http://www.yaml.org/) # We define a list of rules that will be automatically loaded # When we start the oevents module of the framework daemon # # The attributes of a rule are : # - trigger : trigger object # - filters : filters object or list of filters objects # - actions : action object or list of actions objects # # We define the following functions : # - CallStatus() : create a trigger object activated on a call status event # - PowerStatus() : create a trigger object activated on a power status event # - HasAttr(name, value) : create a filter that accept signal with a given attribute # - Not(filter) : create a neg filter # - PlaySound(file) : Action that starts to play an audio file # - StopSound(file) : Action that stop an audio file # - SetScenario(name) : Action that sets an audio scenario # - StartVibration # - StopVibration # - RingTone(cmd) : cmd can be 'start' or 'stop' # - Time(hour, min) : create a trigger activated at the given time # - Debug(msg) : Action that prints a debug message (only for debuging) - # # Call -> Audio Scenario Handling # trigger: IncomingMessage() actions: MessageTone(play) - while: CallListContains("incoming") filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) actions: - RingTone() - Command('xset -display localhost:0 s reset') - SetLed("gta02_aux_red", "blink") - OccupyResource(Display) - # while: CallStatus() # filters: Or(HasAttr(status, "outgoing"), HasAttr(status, "active")) # actions: # - OccupyResource(CPU) #- # while: CallStatus() # filters: # - Or(Or(HasAttr(status, "outgoing"), HasAttr(status, "active")), And(HasAttr(status, "incoming"), CallListContains("active"))) # - Not(BTHeadsetIsConnected()) # actions: # - SetScenario(gsmhandset) #- while: CallStatus() filters: - Or(Or(HasAttr(status, "outgoing"), HasAttr(status, "active")), And(HasAttr(status, "incoming"), CallListContains("active"))) - BTHeadsetIsConnected() actions: - SetScenario(gsmbluetooth) - BTHeadsetPlaying() - while: PowerStatus() filters: HasAttr(status, "charging") actions: SetLed("gta02_power_orange", "light") - while: PowerStatus() filters: Not(HasAttr(status, "discharging")) actions: OccupyResource(CPU) - while: PowerStatus() filters: HasAttr(status, "critical") actions: SetLed("gta02_power_orange", "blink") - while: PowerStatus() filters: HasAttr(status, "full") actions: SetLed("gta02_power_blue", "light") - trigger: PowerStatus() filters: HasAttr(status, "empty") actions: Command('poweroff') # # Headset Audio Scenario Support. There is still work to be done. # - trigger: InputEvent() filters: - HasAttr(switch, "HEADSET") - HasAttr(event, "pressed") actions: Command('amixer -d sset "Amp Spk" mute') - trigger: InputEvent() filters: - HasAttr(switch, "HEADSET") - HasAttr(event, "released") actions: Command('amixer -d sset "Amp Spk" unmute') # # Idleness Brightness Handling # (activating the user's screen saver from a central daemon is quite hacky # we really want some user's application to listen for the right signals) - trigger: IdleState() filters: HasAttr(status, "busy") actions: Command('xset -display localhost:0 s reset') - trigger: IdleState() filters: HasAttr(status, "idle_dim") actions: - Command('xset -display localhost:0 s blank') - Command('xset -display localhost:0 s activate') root at om-gta02 ~ $ From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 00:58:37 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 00:58:37 +0200 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? In-Reply-To: References: <1cc7690909061358q703fea80n40c00e925c337fc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/6/09, arne anka wrote: >> I am unsure if you want to use mdbus so as to get exact function calls >> to make in your app or not... > > i am not talking about an app but an easy way to acces that kind of > information. > in the wiki there's a big fat warning against opimd-cli and no download > link. and as i wrote i didn't find the sources either. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Warning is for users who want to use it as daily phone suite. And sources are browsable in http://git.shr-project.org/ (without /repo subdir) And I don't know how to send dictionaries by mdbus ;( -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From greg at bonett.org Mon Sep 7 02:56:48 2009 From: greg at bonett.org (Greg Bonett) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 17:56:48 -0700 Subject: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes In-Reply-To: <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> References: <20090904173235.2056c7a5@ubuntu> <4AA227FC.5070002@wollishausen.de> Message-ID: <20090906175648.3f256146@ubuntu> On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:57:32 +0200 Matthias Huber wrote: > Greg Bonett schrieb: > > Hi there, > > I just installed SHR unstable and I'm impressed at how usable and > > responsive it is. However, while I was performing a opkg operation > > I ran out of memory so I tried to add a swap file. > > When following the instructions at: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#SwapSpace > > I get the error: > > "swapon: /swapfile: Invalid argument" > > and dmesg shows: > > "swapon: swapfile has holes" > > > > I've tried files on the sd card and also on the internal memory. > > Any suggestions? > > > > > i could imagine, it must be at one extent, so you should try two > things: > > * format your sdcard and make the swapfile on the newly created fs. > *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap > _partition_ also. > I ended up making a swap partition and it seems to be working without any problems. Thanks for the help. -Greg From openmoko at ginguppin.de Mon Sep 7 03:24:24 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:24:24 +0200 Subject: [debian] help: working fso packages, anbody? Message-ID: while playing around with frameworkd today i build my own package of the recent source tar. since zhone immediately made that version crash (no clue why, there where no messages, frameworkd just died suddenly) i had to revert to an older version. but now i got an fso-framework only half working: suspend does not work at all, neither with pwr button nor dbus call. log file does not show any signs of rules being loaded at all. looking around i detected that fso-usaged segfaults immediatly after start -- seems i am now stuck with exactly the packages bitten by that annoying bug heiko st?bner posted weeks ago and there are still no newer packages available. bummer. could someone please post a working set of fso packages for debian? the last working configuration i had were packages from july, but i did not save them anywhere ... From cchandel at yahoo.com Mon Sep 7 04:01:01 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:01:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SHR] Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252288861913-3595003.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Couldn't agree with you more. But, it seems like the edbus and gtk bindings for dbus need to be updated to meet with the newer dbus requirements - which means work upstream. Wonder when that is going to happen. At least the message can be subdued. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-Using-pending-return-in-dbus-connection-send-with-reply-setup-tp3591919p3595003.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From yoush at debian.org Mon Sep 7 05:18:10 2009 From: yoush at debian.org (Nikita V. Youshchenko) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 07:18:10 +0400 Subject: [debian] help: working fso packages, anbody? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200909070718.16579@blacky.localdomain> > could someone please post a working set of fso packages for debian? the > last working configuration i had were packages from july, but i did not > save them anywhere ... Why not use packages from pkg-fso repository? Those are a bit uotdated, but at least don't crash. And newer set is being prepared, you know. Nkita -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/fd7fffb2/attachment-0001.pgp From yoush at debian.org Mon Sep 7 05:39:32 2009 From: yoush at debian.org (Nikita V. Youshchenko) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 07:39:32 +0400 Subject: [debian] help: working fso packages, anbody? In-Reply-To: <200909070718.16579@blacky.localdomain> References: <200909070718.16579@blacky.localdomain> Message-ID: <200909070739.38054@blacky.localdomain> > > could someone please post a working set of fso packages for debian? > > the last working configuration i had were packages from july, but i > > did not save them anywhere ... > > Why not use packages from pkg-fso repository? From main debian repository, to be more correct - fso-frameworkd is already there. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/91836fda/attachment.pgp From bastian.muck at gmx.de Mon Sep 7 06:20:50 2009 From: bastian.muck at gmx.de (Bastian Muck) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:20:50 +0200 Subject: german "fixing the #1024" bug party In-Reply-To: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> References: <4A9D05C7.9000103@gmx.li> Message-ID: <4AA48A22.2020806@gmx.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kahless schrieb: > hi all, > > I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it > somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) ) > > Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small > bug fix party? > > Sascha > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Yes I am (Cologne), Greetungs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKpIoilYiDScJJ+7QRAvzIAKDLFdzw6syEK+HMnvJIO7X+fC8p1ACeNXZ5 jgIyW5mb4EcCu5OX9wR5vS4= =JAPr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From evadim at evadim.ru Mon Sep 7 06:51:19 2009 From: evadim at evadim.ru (Vadim, Efimov) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:51:19 +0400 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:05:42 +0400, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > In opimd. > I can't query it via opimd-cli (console not properly localized), in opimd-contacts i see: Work phone Fax phone Cell phone Home phone After i click "edit" & "save" via GUI - small mobile phone icon appear: http://gallery.evadim.ru/d/435-1/opimd-contcts-screen.png Also, i can't search in opimd-contacts contacts with russian names, even by phone number, but this another story... From timo.jyrinki at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 09:33:27 2009 From: timo.jyrinki at gmail.com (Timo Jyrinki) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:33:27 +0300 Subject: Debian first experience made a bit easier... In-Reply-To: <200909062324.03595@blacky.localdomain> References: <68da43e00908270620w7c748767r917049b06e4206b6@mail.gmail.com> <68da43e00908290037s939975cx7eb73da1cf80a069@mail.gmail.com> <68da43e00909061045p6ebf47aev6f13e56d79933bf9@mail.gmail.com> <200909062324.03595@blacky.localdomain> Message-ID: <68da43e00909070033h1dfe20fbr75795d973d0fed49@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/6 Nikita V. Youshchenko : > Doing debian install with (c)debootstrap, as current install.sh does and as > debian installer does, although being a standard way, is somewhat > questionable on slow devices such as freerunner. This is plainly slow, > compared to reflashing or archive unpacking. Also it is vulnerable to > temporary archive breakages, as the current story with dpkg 1.15.4 shows. There is truth to that, but I just personally prefer "real" installation to .tar.gz:s. Of course, with a grain of trustworthiness of having the .tar.gz:s hosted under Debian it would be better than downloading from random places around the web. > Remenber, zhone is not intended to be end-user phone app. We should package > paroli, and/or litephone, and/or shr phone tools. However, zhone works quite well. But yes paroli for example definitely - and we're on a very good path now. Elementary is now (again) in NEW queue (http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html), after that there is only python-elementary bindings left to have everything ready for packaging paroli (and intone). > For example, it's nice that mokomaze is in debian, but if you install it ... > And it was just an example. Another one: after aptitude install mplayer, I Yeah, thanks for bringing me back to Earth :) I just accept almost anything if I just get to use Debian, and I'm happy the ground work starts to be ready, but those two examples are quite good about the real polishing need. TangoGPS of course works quite flawlessly at the moment, but MPlayer with Tremor support and without confusing GUI option would be good, as well as a fixed mokomaze. I believe there are always ways to fix the problems in an acceptable way, but it may indeed need some work. Maybe something can be done in the openmoko-files-config to trigger some stuff in eg. mokomaze. -Timo From KichKasch at gmx.de Mon Sep 7 10:23:57 2009 From: KichKasch at gmx.de (Michael Pilgermann) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:23:57 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090907082357.313770@gmx.net> Hi, I think, this is not about opimd at all - it should rather be a problem with the VCF implementation in PISI. I filed a bug already ... I hope, I will find the time to get this fixed till end of this week. Michael -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:51:19 +0400 > Von: "Vadim, Efimov" > An: "List for Openmoko community discussion" > Betreff: Re: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field > On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:05:42 +0400, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > wrote: > > > > > In opimd. > > > > I can't query it via opimd-cli (console not properly localized), in > opimd-contacts i see: > > Work phone > Fax phone > Cell phone > Home phone > > After i click "edit" & "save" via GUI - small mobile phone > icon appear: > > http://gallery.evadim.ru/d/435-1/opimd-contcts-screen.png > > Also, i can't search in opimd-contacts contacts with russian > names, even by phone number, but this another story... > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From kazer at altern.org Mon Sep 7 10:48:09 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SHR] Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() In-Reply-To: <1252288861913-3595003.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252288861913-3595003.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252313289192-3596159.post@n2.nabble.com> c_c wrote: > > Hi, > Couldn't agree with you more. But, it seems like the edbus and gtk > bindings for dbus need to be updated to meet with the newer dbus > requirements - which means work upstream. > Wonder when that is going to happen. At least the message can be > subdued. > > > Do you know who is 'upstream'? Who should we bug to get this fixed? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-Using-pending-return-in-dbus-connection-send-with-reply-setup-tp3591919p3596159.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From david at tuxbrain.com Mon Sep 7 10:55:29 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:55:29 +0200 Subject: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments In-Reply-To: <20090905065046.GO28624@nysv.org> References: <5c6ceea80908300000w64bbback2fe1509a1f5b6277@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80908312223h2e1b9251i49597353a765fa16@mail.gmail.com> <20090901072914.GR28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909010340x457fd5f2n42b4e698b0a7896e@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909011909r2cc5f814tcdf6a91e7012d3e@mail.gmail.com> <20090902042442.GD28624@nysv.org> <5c6ceea80909020245g310303d5i4d88eed1f5276a9@mail.gmail.com> <20090905065046.GO28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909070155j79778e5fl15c17177a6c1c97@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/5 Markus T?rnqvist : > On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:45:08AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >>>>https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/ >>> >>> Hooray! >> >>Hi ssh+svn through a public key maybe is the most comfortable option, >>so send me a private mail with user name do you want i and a public >>key >>to generate the key(Markus sure you know but maybe other willing to >>colaborate and this aplies to anyone wanting to code on this) >>on the pc you want to use your local svn clone >>$ mkdir ~/.ssh/ >>$ cd ~/.ssh/ >>$ ssh-keygen -t dsa >>and send to me ?the ?~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub > > I did it, but forgot to mention I'd like my username to be "mjt" :) > >>Yes surelly this will get out of the vcs soon, but maybe someone is >>curiouse about ?structure or the info extracted from the repo so this >>was a q&d to make it available for download, and ... what the hell !! >>I was proud of the success and want to show it :P > > Sure thing :) > > Mil gracias! > > -- > mjt > Done , so we will have to start a little more serious roadmap and start step by step, I will propose one later on but if anyone is faster don't be shy and tell us :) > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From kazer at altern.org Mon Sep 7 11:14:41 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 04:14:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [shr-u] Bluetooth (was mplayer with glamo and audio working?) In-Reply-To: References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252314881405-3596269.post@n2.nabble.com> Paul Fertser wrote: > > KaZeR writes: >> Or maybe it's like mms and bluetooth pairing/handling: people are >> interested but don't make much noise about it cause it's nowhere >> near functionnal right now.. > > Bluetooth pairing works flawlessly, bluetooth A2DP works, bluetooth > networking works, bluetooth music player control works, bluetooth > mouse/keyboard work, bluetooth GSM headsets work but with > inconveniences. > > What bluetooth doesn't work for you? > > As Arne said, i'm not saying that bluetooth doesn't work : i'm saying that bluetooth pairing (using a script works, but isn't convenient) or handling (switching the link to the headset on/off is a pita) needs something more polished: even if i do like scripting my phone, some things need a convenient gui, for the use cases where using a script isn't convenient. And even if the shr guys did a great job so far (shr-settings is really helpful), it would be really nice (at least for me) if that gap could be filled. Switching the headset on/off depends of FSO, i guess? c_c, any support planned for mms in launcher? Or does it relies upon FSO? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3596269.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kazer at altern.org Mon Sep 7 11:19:46 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 04:19:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252315186884-3596284.post@n2.nabble.com> c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > KaZeR wrote: >> >> but with the view scrolled to the bottom of the list. >> > Sure. Will implement it by this weekend. > Time is up! Put down your pen, release your binaries :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3596284.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From openmoko at ginguppin.de Mon Sep 7 11:26:36 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:26:36 +0200 Subject: [debian] help: working fso packages, anbody? In-Reply-To: <200909070718.16579@blacky.localdomain> References: <200909070718.16579@blacky.localdomain> Message-ID: > Why not use packages from pkg-fso repository? it's not 5.5? and how is that in any way related to my question? > And newer set is being prepared, you know. so? that means i am not allowed to ask? and btw: the set is prepared for weeks now and does not arrive, nor is there any schedule visible. i understand the problems withg both man power and debian's way -- but i reserve the right to make my own decisions and i certainly don't think that "why don't you do b?" is a helpful answer to a question "has anyone a?" if that had happened, say, friday evening, i hadn't asked -- i got the whole weekend to figure things out. but since it happened sunday night with a week of little or no spare time ahead, i need a working phone. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 11:35:13 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:35:13 +0200 Subject: opimd: a bug (?) and how to list missed calls? In-Reply-To: References: <1cc7690909061358q703fea80n40c00e925c337fc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > And I don't know how to send dictionaries by mdbus ;( I dont know, just asking: Is dbus suited to pass large data through the bus? Ie. it is not better practice, that you save to a file, and give only the filename to the client? Maybe it is slower. Just cant believe, that dbus is built for large data transfer. Best regards, Laszlo From vikas.saurabh at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 13:50:30 2009 From: vikas.saurabh at gmail.com (Vikas Saurabh) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:20:30 +0530 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking Message-ID: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Quite often when I get a call, all I see is the locked screen. Now, what I would expect is to able to accept the call without actually unlocking the phone. Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right rejects it. --Vikas PS: I had a look at the TODO list in git( http://github.com/slyon/today/blob/b279a6af85352de0ca9db4ac3c1f4f06e086ed8b/TODO) and this didn't appear there From billk at iinet.net.au Mon Sep 7 14:44:37 2009 From: billk at iinet.net.au (William Kenworthy) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:44:37 +0800 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 17:20 +0530, Vikas Saurabh wrote: > Hi, > > Quite often when I get a call, all I see is the locked screen. Now, > what I would expect is to able to accept the call without actually > unlocking the phone. > Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. > Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right > rejects it. > > --Vikas > > PS: I had a look at the TODO list in git( > http://github.com/slyon/today/blob/b279a6af85352de0ca9db4ac3c1f4f06e086ed8b/TODO) > and this didn't appear there > An observation - Ive lost a few calls (~5) now due to wsod on resume - until this is fixed (and after so long, is it likely to ever be fixed?) - making the bottom left 1/4 of shr-today accept, and bottom right quarter reject would be nice when the thing wsods on resume (the TS still works - just cant see what you are doing) when a call comes in. Yes its a hack, but unless wsod is fixed, what alternative do we have. Oh, and sliders suck :) Got laughed at the other day when I dragged out the FR to look up a date - I had the screen brightness down a bit as I was previously using it indoors - finger operation of sliders isnt good (besides having to navigate layers of menus to get to it) - I might have laughed in frustration myself if I wasnt cringing from the derogatory comments the FR interface got - not a good advertisement :( BillK From timo.jyrinki at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 15:32:43 2009 From: timo.jyrinki at gmail.com (Timo Jyrinki) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:32:43 +0300 Subject: [debian] help: working fso packages, anbody? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68da43e00909070632r2c1ec6ecv5bcef13f289d5aba@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/7 arne anka : > could someone please post a working set of fso packages for debian? the > last working configuration i had were packages from july, but i did not > save them anywhere ... I have the following set working. Ie. everything from Debian main repository, nothing from pkg-fso repository (except for kernel): dpkg -l *fso* | cat ... un fso-config (no description available) ii fso-config-gta02 20090224-1 configuration files for Openmoko GTA02 Neo F ii fso-frameworkd 0.8.5.1-1 freesmartphone.org Framework Daemon un fso-frameworkd-wireless-glue (no description available) ii fso-gpsd 0.8-3 gpsd compatibility daemon for the freesmarpt ii fso-gsm0710muxd 0.9.3.1-3 GSM 07.10 Multiplexer un fso-sounds (no description available) ii fso-sounds-none 0.8.5.1-1 void ringtones for the freesmartphone.org fr pn fso-sounds-openmoko-nonfree (no description available) ii fso-sounds-yue-base 20081031-2 Yue base ringtones for the freesmartphone.or ii fso-sounds-yue-full 20081031-2 Yue full ringtones for the freesmartphone.or pn fso-utils (no description available) pn pkg-fso-keyring (no description available) Zhone is the just updated one which brings libevas-svn-03-engines-x among else. You may need to remove the old pkg-fso cruft first. -Timo From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 16:06:49 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:06:49 +0200 Subject: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/7/09, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > Hi! > > It looks like frameworkd plays the ringtone file by itself. > I requested before it in the program, but always got AlreadyPlaying > exception. > > I checked the rules.yaml file, but there is no rule for playing ringtone. > I also observed the dbus line using mdbus -l -s, but it does not > print out from where the signal arrived (it only indicates, that a > service received the signal). > > I checked ophonekitd too, and there is also automatic ringtone > playing, and looks like it is not ophonekits who requested it. > > Im a bit lost at this stage, I dont know how to debug further. > Could somebody shred a bit of light? > > Best regards, > Laszlo > > > mdbus: > > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Phone.CallCreated from :1.18 > /org/freesmartphone/Phone > (op'/org/freesmartphone/Phone/GSM/13',) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.CallStatus from :1.11 > /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device > ( 1, > 'incoming', > { 'direction': 'incoming', > 'line': 0, > 'mode': 'voice', > 'peer': '+362xxxxxxxx', > 'status': 'incoming'}) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SoundStatus from :1.19 > /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio > ('/usr/share/sounds/ringtone_ringnroll.wav', 'playing', { }) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceChanged from :1.20 > /org/freesmartphone/Usage > ('Display', True, { 'policy': 0, 'refcount': 1}) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceChanged from :1.20 > /org/freesmartphone/Usage > ('Display', True, { 'policy': 0, 'refcount': 1}) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.SignalStrength from > :1.11 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device > (75,) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.Capacity from > :1.19 /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/battery > (94,) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.CallStatus from :1.11 > /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device > (1, 'release', { 'status': 'release'}) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.NewCall from :1.13 > /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls > ('/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/58',) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.NewMissedCalls from :1.13 > /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls > (22,) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.PIM.Calls.MissedCall from :1.13 > /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls > ('/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Calls/58',) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Phone.CallReleased from :1.18 > /org/freesmartphone/Phone > (op'/org/freesmartphone/Phone/GSM/13',) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Phone.Call.Released from :1.18 > /org/freesmartphone/Phone/GSM/13 > () > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SoundStatus from :1.19 > /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio > ('/usr/share/sounds/ringtone_ringnroll.wav', 'stopped', { }) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceChanged from :1.20 > /org/freesmartphone/Usage > ('Display', False, { 'policy': 0, 'refcount': 0}) > [SIGNAL] org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.SignalStrength from > :1.11 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device > > rules.yaml: > root at om-gta02 ~ $ cat /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml > > # This file is in YAML format (http://www.yaml.org/) > # We define a list of rules that will be automatically loaded > # When we start the oevents module of the framework daemon > # > # The attributes of a rule are : > # - trigger : trigger object > # - filters : filters object or list of filters objects > # - actions : action object or list of actions objects > # > # We define the following functions : > # - CallStatus() : create a trigger object activated on a > call status event > # - PowerStatus() : create a trigger object activated on a > power status event > # - HasAttr(name, value) : create a filter that accept signal with > a given attribute > # - Not(filter) : create a neg filter > # - PlaySound(file) : Action that starts to play an audio file > # - StopSound(file) : Action that stop an audio file > # - SetScenario(name) : Action that sets an audio scenario > # - StartVibration > # - StopVibration > # - RingTone(cmd) : cmd can be 'start' or 'stop' > # - Time(hour, min) : create a trigger activated at the given time > # - Debug(msg) : Action that prints a debug message (only > for debuging) > - > # > # Call -> Audio Scenario Handling > # > trigger: IncomingMessage() > actions: MessageTone(play) > > - > while: CallListContains("incoming") > filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) > actions: > - RingTone() > - Command('xset -display localhost:0 s reset') > - SetLed("gta02_aux_red", "blink") > - OccupyResource(Display) > - > # while: CallStatus() > # filters: Or(HasAttr(status, "outgoing"), HasAttr(status, "active")) > # actions: > # - OccupyResource(CPU) > #- > # while: CallStatus() > # filters: > # - Or(Or(HasAttr(status, "outgoing"), HasAttr(status, > "active")), And(HasAttr(status, "incoming"), > CallListContains("active"))) > # - Not(BTHeadsetIsConnected()) > # actions: > # - SetScenario(gsmhandset) > #- > while: CallStatus() > filters: > - Or(Or(HasAttr(status, "outgoing"), HasAttr(status, > "active")), And(HasAttr(status, "incoming"), > CallListContains("active"))) > - BTHeadsetIsConnected() > actions: > - SetScenario(gsmbluetooth) > - BTHeadsetPlaying() > - > while: PowerStatus() > filters: HasAttr(status, "charging") > actions: SetLed("gta02_power_orange", "light") > > - > while: PowerStatus() > filters: Not(HasAttr(status, "discharging")) > actions: OccupyResource(CPU) > > - > while: PowerStatus() > filters: HasAttr(status, "critical") > actions: SetLed("gta02_power_orange", "blink") > - > while: PowerStatus() > filters: HasAttr(status, "full") > actions: SetLed("gta02_power_blue", "light") > - > trigger: PowerStatus() > filters: HasAttr(status, "empty") > actions: Command('poweroff') > > # > # Headset Audio Scenario Support. There is still work to be done. > # > - > trigger: InputEvent() > filters: > - HasAttr(switch, "HEADSET") > - HasAttr(event, "pressed") > actions: Command('amixer -d sset "Amp Spk" mute') > - > trigger: InputEvent() > filters: > - HasAttr(switch, "HEADSET") > - HasAttr(event, "released") > actions: Command('amixer -d sset "Amp Spk" unmute') > > > # > # Idleness Brightness Handling > # (activating the user's screen saver from a central daemon is quite > hacky > # we really want some user's application to listen for the right > signals) > - > trigger: IdleState() > filters: HasAttr(status, "busy") > actions: Command('xset -display localhost:0 s reset') > - > trigger: IdleState() > filters: HasAttr(status, "idle_dim") > actions: > - Command('xset -display localhost:0 s blank') > - Command('xset -display localhost:0 s activate') > root at om-gta02 ~ $ > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > while: CallListContains("incoming") filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) actions: - RingTone() I think that's the part of rules.yaml you want to see ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 16:15:45 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:15:45 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/7/09, Vadim, Efimov wrote: > On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:05:42 +0400, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > wrote: > >> >> In opimd. >> > > I can't query it via opimd-cli (console not properly localized), in > opimd-contacts i see: > > Work phone > Fax phone > Cell phone > Home phone > > After i click "edit" & "save" via GUI - small mobile phone > icon appear: So it means PISI isn't adding tel: prefix to field values, which is wrong :P > http://gallery.evadim.ru/d/435-1/opimd-contcts-screen.png > > Also, i can't search in opimd-contacts contacts with russian > names, even by phone number, but this another story... opimd-contacts isn't supposed to be phone suite. Patches are welcome, but I won't work on such things by myself, sorry (unless they are opimd problems, not opimd-utils). -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 16:17:02 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:17:02 +0200 Subject: [SHR] Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() In-Reply-To: <1252288861913-3595003.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252288861913-3595003.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 9/7/09, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > Couldn't agree with you more. But, it seems like the edbus and gtk > bindings for dbus need to be updated to meet with the newer dbus > requirements - which means work upstream. > Wonder when that is going to happen. At least the message can be subdued. No, it's not about edbus, gtk nor qt bindings. It's about dbus-c++, python-dbus and dbus-glib. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From rms at 1407.org Mon Sep 7 16:20:58 2009 From: rms at 1407.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 15:20:58 +0100 Subject: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090907142056.GD26741@roque.1407.org> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:06:49PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > while: CallListContains("incoming") > filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) > actions: > - RingTone() > > I think that's the part of rules.yaml you want to see ;) Would a finer tailored rule set better handle call waiting? At list the application gets really nutty by the time this happens... Rui From cchandel at yahoo.com Mon Sep 7 16:38:24 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:38:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [shr-u] Bluetooth (was mplayer with glamo and audio working?) In-Reply-To: <1252314881405-3596269.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252314881405-3596269.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252334304080-3597769.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, KaZeR wrote: > > Switching the headset on/off depends of FSO, i guess? > Yup. Though I'm planning on automating it in launcher. Any idea how launcher can know if the phone has resumed from suspend? KaZeR wrote: > > c_c, any support planned for mms in launcher? Or does it relies upon FSO? > I'm near finishing CSM support. Once that is done - I want to implement categories in Contacts too. I'm thinking of something on the lines of Family, Friends, Work and Misc to begin with. Usual toolbar on the top to switch between categories. Then, I'm also looking at adding support fro vcards (receiving and sending). Any ideas if there is a library to parse this? MMS can come next - if someone can point me to how it's done and test what I produce ;-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3597769.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kazer at altern.org Mon Sep 7 16:40:20 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:40:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251705333659-3552019.post@n2.nabble.com> <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> c_c wrote: > > Actually, I'm a little stuck since there is an issue in getting messages > from opimd with the latest updates. SMS is broken as of now - I was in the > middle of adding CSM support when this happened. > > Are you talking of this issue? nasty error wrote: > > Updating SMS data.. > process 1595: type dict_entry 101 not a basic type > D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace > Aborted > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3597779.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 16:43:59 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:43:59 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> Message-ID: On 9/7/09, William Kenworthy wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 17:20 +0530, Vikas Saurabh wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Quite often when I get a call, all I see is the locked screen. Now, >> what I would expect is to able to accept the call without actually >> unlocking the phone. >> Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. >> Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right >> rejects it. >> >> --Vikas >> >> PS: I had a look at the TODO list in git( >> http://github.com/slyon/today/blob/b279a6af85352de0ca9db4ac3c1f4f06e086ed8b/TODO) >> and this didn't appear there >> > > An observation - Ive lost a few calls (~5) now due to wsod on resume - > until this is fixed (and after so long, is it likely to ever be fixed?) WTF? WSOD still happening? What kernel do you use? o_O -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From rakshat at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 16:44:06 2009 From: rakshat at gmail.com (rakshat hooja) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:14:06 +0530 Subject: Any news about Project B? In-Reply-To: References: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> <69a2e4550909060459h5ca5c2b2rb6a430fef53a0d96@mail.gmail.com> <20090906180016.GA31660@playya-laptop> Message-ID: <69a2e4550909070744u3d497dfcqbbf566bd081934ea@mail.gmail.com> > > > > There are two possibilities about project B: > - it was abbandoned 2009-08-17 > - it's starting to being manufactured > > To the best of my knowledge it was not abandoned on 17th August 2009 :) Rakshat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/db6abde2/attachment.htm From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 16:46:01 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:46:01 +0200 Subject: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd? In-Reply-To: <20090907142056.GD26741@roque.1407.org> References: <20090907142056.GD26741@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: On 9/7/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:06:49PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> while: CallListContains("incoming") >> filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) >> actions: >> - RingTone() >> >> I think that's the part of rules.yaml you want to see ;) > > Would a finer tailored rule set better handle call waiting? > > At list the application gets really nutty by the time this happens... > > > Rui No. Call waiting is already fixed in SHR by moving handling sound states from oeventsd to libframeworkd-phonegui-efl. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From mickey at vanille-media.de Mon Sep 7 16:50:39 2009 From: mickey at vanille-media.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:50:39 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] Bluetooth (was mplayer with glamo and audio working?) In-Reply-To: <1252334304080-3597769.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252314881405-3596269.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334304080-3597769.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <200909071650.39435.mickey@vanille-media.de> On Monday 07 September 2009 16:38:24 c_c wrote: > Yup. Though I'm planning on automating it in launcher. Any idea how > launcher can know if the phone has resumed from suspend? http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Usage.html;hb=HEAD#SystemAction :M: From openmoko at ginguppin.de Mon Sep 7 16:53:42 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:53:42 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> Message-ID: > An observation - Ive lost a few calls (~5) now due to wsod on resume - > until this is fixed (and after so long, is it likely to ever be fixed?) > - making the bottom left 1/4 of shr-today accept, and bottom right > quarter reject would be nice when the thing wsods on resume (the TS > still works - just cant see what you are doing) when a call comes in. > Yes its a hack, but unless wsod is fixed, what alternative do we have. is there a way to detect wsod from software at all? From KichKasch at gmx.de Mon Sep 7 16:55:45 2009 From: KichKasch at gmx.de (Michael Pilgermann) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:55:45 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090907145545.313790@gmx.net> Hi, although, this is not the standard way of storing phone numbers; I filed a bug to address this issue (as I do not want to start this discussion again). There will be another option in the config file for opimd PIM sources with the next release, which shall indicate whether to prefix phone numbers automatically in opimd when syncing. Michael -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:15:45 +0200 > Von: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > An: List for Openmoko community discussion > Betreff: Re: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field > On 9/7/09, Vadim, Efimov wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:05:42 +0400, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > > wrote: > > > >> > >> In opimd. > >> > > > > I can't query it via opimd-cli (console not properly localized), in > > opimd-contacts i see: > > > > Work phone > > Fax phone > > Cell phone > > Home phone > > > > After i click "edit" & "save" via GUI - small mobile phone > > icon appear: > > So it means PISI isn't adding tel: prefix to field values, which is wrong > :P > > > http://gallery.evadim.ru/d/435-1/opimd-contcts-screen.png > > > > Also, i can't search in opimd-contacts contacts with russian > > names, even by phone number, but this another story... > > opimd-contacts isn't supposed to be phone suite. Patches are welcome, > but I won't work on such things by myself, sorry (unless they are > opimd problems, not opimd-utils). > > -- > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > dos > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From vendion at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 16:56:34 2009 From: vendion at gmail.com (Adam Jimerson) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:56:34 -0400 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909071056.38230.vendion@charter.net> On Monday 07 September 2009 07:50:30 am Vikas Saurabh wrote: > Hi, > > Quite often when I get a call, all I see is the locked screen. Now, > what I would expect is to able to accept the call without actually > unlocking the phone. > Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. > Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right > rejects it. > I like the slider idea, then we can avoid the same problem that the iphone users have, pocket answering/rejecting. One of my friends has a iphone and that is one thing he doesn't like when he gets a call a window opens up above the home ("lock") screen saying who is calling and has a button to answer or to reject the call. The problem he has is accidentally hitting one of the two but tens trying to get his phone out of his pocket. A slider should help prevent/reduce this problem. -- "We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure." Karl Popper -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 17:00:36 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:00:36 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: <20090907145545.313790@gmx.net> References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> <20090907145545.313790@gmx.net> Message-ID: On 9/7/09, Michael Pilgermann wrote: > Hi, > > although, this is not the standard way of storing phone numbers; I filed a > bug to address this issue (as I do not want to start this discussion again). > > There will be another option in the config file for opimd PIM sources with > the next release, which shall indicate whether to prefix phone numbers > automatically in opimd when syncing. > > Michael I seem to remember that discussion and someone pointed to tel: being valid and standard way of storing phone numbers (with some nice link proving that). Anyway, that's standard which opimd follows with many features (like normalizing phone numbers when comparing) and if PISI (or any other opimd client) isn't doing that, then it isn't really supporting opimd :x -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From jensseidel at users.sf.net Mon Sep 7 16:54:02 2009 From: jensseidel at users.sf.net (Jens Seidel) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:54:02 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> Message-ID: <20090907145400.GA24749@merkur.sol.de> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/7/09, William Kenworthy wrote: > > An observation - Ive lost a few calls (~5) now due to wsod on resume - > > until this is fixed (and after so long, is it likely to ever be fixed?) > > WTF? WSOD still happening? What kernel do you use? o_O Oh, yes, WSOD still happens. But in contrast to the past the problem may vanish after a further suspend, see http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2274 (Kernel regression: white screen of death reappeared with 2.6.29). I was suprised about the fact that one no longer has to restart to get again a working state and verified it only a few hours ago. In general one needs only one or two suspend iterations until the white screen vanished :-) Jens From tingox at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 17:09:21 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:09:21 +0200 Subject: sdcrard - most common partition layout? In-Reply-To: <1252247091.19810.12.camel@toaster-desktop> References: <1252247091.19810.12.camel@toaster-desktop> Message-ID: Hi, On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Cameron Frazier wrote: > I do not use a swap file (for better or worse), so one is not included. > > Switching to my alternate OS is easy with Qi, just needs a bit of > timing. > > My OS partitions are a bit bigger then required for the SHR image, but I > have the room, and I'd rather err on the side of providing too much room > rather then not enough. > > I hope that helps, > Yes - it does. Thanks! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Should release soon. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3597917.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Mon Sep 7 17:13:50 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:13:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [shr-u] Bluetooth (was mplayer with glamo and audio working?) In-Reply-To: <200909071650.39435.mickey@vanille-media.de> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252049792556-3578142.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252314881405-3596269.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334304080-3597769.post@n2.nabble.com> <200909071650.39435.mickey@vanille-media.de> Message-ID: <1252336430737-3597940.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer-2 wrote: > > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Usage.html;hb=HEAD#SystemAction > That was fast!. Thanks. I really need to read up on everything that FSO provides. :-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shr-u-mplayer-with-glamo-and-audio-working-tp3575025p3597940.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kazer at altern.org Mon Sep 7 17:15:18 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:15:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <815cb1720908310234o4f6c64cwf5da58a4d7aa9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> c_c (via Nabble) a ?crit : > Hi, > > KaZeR wrote: > Are you talking of this issue? > > Yup. Has been fixed today. Almost got Launcher working again. Should > release soon. Great. I really like your messaging app, can't wait to get it back :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3597949.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 17:20:48 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:20:48 +0200 Subject: [debian] help: working fso packages, anbody? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/7/09, arne anka wrote: > looking around i detected that fso-usaged segfaults immediatly after start > -- seems i am now stuck with exactly the packages bitten by that annoying > bug heiko st?bner posted weeks ago and there are still no newer packages > available. > bummer. Check your configuration (frameworkd.conf). fsousaged needs correct sections defined in config file. You can compare it with SHR's one. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From david at tuxbrain.com Mon Sep 7 17:26:08 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:26:08 +0200 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> Hi, heres is my "serious" proposal of task list for the firt release of the showroom, also some doubt and comments, joao I need some guiadance. -Package filtering:using a config file to block some packages to be showed the showroom package selector in order to simplify the editors works. this config file will contain a list of strings with wildcards and if any package name meets one of this will not appear on the package list. I consider than devel, docs, fonts, plugins from main packages and libraries must not appear in a application showroom so using this principle I have reduced from 8215 to 510 using the filter criteria in a sql statement[2] on the shrunestable database Doubts on how to face the implementation of this: -two approaches: -on the import itself, no include this on the database on import -pros:small and more quick database -cons:a package not imported will be not posible to be included in the showroom -filter it on the showroom editor , build the sql query online using this "blacklist" file to retry the allowed packages to be included. -pros:possible to disable/modify the filter by the editor and being able to include any package on the repo -cons:big and slow? database, a bit more dificult to implement edit management part. This point is the first I will dedicate some time once the approach is decided, if no input received I will procced with the second approach -Web application (om-showroom it self) Due the design is still pending I will start development on an an ugly plain text and html tables without care about, styles, colours or nothing image/look related , only focusing in that the info can be shown and edited For the first release -Welcome page -App Navigation: -the categories will be predefined with the freedesktop.org Main registered ones[1], if the amount of apps of one category began to rise then a two level navigation will be implemented using the additional categories of freedesktop.org too. -App Details: -main screenshoot: a predef image will be shown if no one is uploaded -Short description:based on the package description will be showed in the applications list during navigation, editable through application editor no mor e than 255 chars -Description:description without char descriptions and surely not on this release but in next ones with wiki formating style. -package name, source and homepage inherited from packages info -comments -voting -more screenshots?(doubt if it will be included on this release) -additional links?(doubt if it will be included on this release) -Editor page -Form for edit all the above with -Package filtering?(see Package filtering item above) -Only apps with asociated package are allowed -clear way to know which packages is already included and what are pending and what are rejected (must be included on the filter?) -The fist time an app is included this description will be filled with the package description -have in mind the future features, (multi-distro, multi-distro version.. etc) Well that's all for now, :) I hope my next mail will be with something to show, in spite it will be ugly :) [1]http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html [2]select count(*) from package where NOT (package Like '%-doc' or package Like '%-dev' or package Like '%-dbg' or package Like 'font-%' or package Like 'task-%' or package Like 'ttf-%' or package Like '%-locale%' or package Like 'locale-%' or package Like 'lib%' or package Like 'kernel-%' or package Like 'perl-%' or package Like 'python-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like 'util-linux-%' or package Like 'e-wm-%' or package Like 'alsa-utils-%' or package Like 'abiword-%' or package Like 'evas-%' or package Like 'etk-%' or package Like 'ecore-%' or package Like 'e2fsprogs-%' or package Like 'connman-%' or package Like 'classpath-%' or package Like 'edbus-%' or package Like 'edje-%' or package Like 'efrecet-%' or package Like 'emotion-%' or package Like 'epsilon-%' or package Like 'ewl-%' or package Like 'finch-%' or package Like 'frameworkd-%' or package Like 'gdk-%' or package Like 'glibc-%' or package Like 'gnome-vfs-%' or package Like 'gpsd-%' or package Like 'gst-%' or package Like 'gtk-%' or package Like 'iputils-%' or package Like 'midpath-%' or package Like 'openssh-%' or package Like 'pam-%' or package Like 'pango-%' or package Like 'pidgin-%' or package Like 'ppp-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like 'tzdata-%' or package Like 'xserver-%') Order by package asc -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 17:32:34 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:32:34 +0200 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/7/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > [2]select count(*) from package where NOT (package Like '%-doc' or > package Like '%-dev' or package Like '%-dbg' or package Like 'font-%' > or package Like 'task-%' or package Like 'ttf-%' or package Like > '%-locale%' or package Like 'locale-%' or package Like 'lib%' or > package Like 'kernel-%' or package Like 'perl-%' or package Like > 'python-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like > 'util-linux-%' or package Like 'e-wm-%' or package Like 'alsa-utils-%' > or package Like 'abiword-%' or package Like 'evas-%' or package Like > 'etk-%' or package Like 'ecore-%' or package Like 'e2fsprogs-%' or > package Like 'connman-%' or package Like 'classpath-%' or package Like > 'edbus-%' or package Like 'edje-%' or package Like 'efrecet-%' or > package Like 'emotion-%' or package Like 'epsilon-%' or package Like > 'ewl-%' or package Like 'finch-%' or package Like 'frameworkd-%' or > package Like 'gdk-%' or package Like 'glibc-%' or package Like > 'gnome-vfs-%' or package Like 'gpsd-%' or package Like 'gst-%' or > package Like 'gtk-%' or package Like 'iputils-%' or package Like > 'midpath-%' or package Like 'openssh-%' or package Like 'pam-%' or > package Like 'pango-%' or package Like 'pidgin-%' or package Like > 'ppp-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like 'tzdata-%' or > package Like 'xserver-%') Order by package asc I think you should leave e-wm-theme-* packages. And you have pulseaudio-% listed two times :) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From rms at 1407.org Mon Sep 7 17:57:05 2009 From: rms at 1407.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:57:05 +0100 Subject: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd? In-Reply-To: References: <20090907142056.GD26741@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <20090907155705.GE26741@roque.1407.org> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:46:01PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/7/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:06:49PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > >> while: CallListContains("incoming") > >> filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) > >> actions: > >> - RingTone() > >> > >> I think that's the part of rules.yaml you want to see ;) > > > > Would a finer tailored rule set better handle call waiting? > > > > At list the application gets really nutty by the time this happens... > > > > > > Rui > > No. Call waiting is already fixed in SHR by moving handling sound > states from oeventsd to libframeworkd-phonegui-efl. Post 2009/08/08 ? I gotta try daring an opkg upgrade if so... Rui From cchandel at yahoo.com Mon Sep 7 18:01:11 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:01:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251773226267-3557977.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, KaZeR wrote: > > Great. I really like your messaging app, can't wait to get it back :) > Thanks! Here's a (just) working binary. I still need to do some work - but this should at least get you going for now. Let me know if there are issues. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3598173/launcher launcher -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3598173.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kichkasch at gmx.de Mon Sep 7 18:22:12 2009 From: kichkasch at gmx.de (Michael Pilgermann) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:22:12 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> <20090907145545.313790@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4AA53334.2060509@gmx.de> In this context: What is the set of prefixes you are using / supporting in opimd?? (any link to documentation??) thx in advance Michael Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/7/09, Michael Pilgermann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> although, this is not the standard way of storing phone numbers; I filed a >> bug to address this issue (as I do not want to start this discussion again). >> >> There will be another option in the config file for opimd PIM sources with >> the next release, which shall indicate whether to prefix phone numbers >> automatically in opimd when syncing. >> >> Michael > > I seem to remember that discussion and someone pointed to tel: being > valid and standard way of storing phone numbers (with some nice link > proving that). Anyway, that's standard which opimd follows with many > features (like normalizing phone numbers when comparing) and if PISI > (or any other opimd client) isn't doing that, then it isn't really > supporting opimd :x > From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 18:26:41 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:26:41 +0200 Subject: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field In-Reply-To: <4AA53334.2060509@gmx.de> References: <359c5480909022043o75fc6621tdd93763fbf8e0274@mail.gmail.com> <20090907145545.313790@gmx.net> <4AA53334.2060509@gmx.de> Message-ID: On 9/7/09, Michael Pilgermann wrote: > In this context: > What is the set of prefixes you are using / supporting in opimd?? (any > link to documentation??) > thx in advance > Michael Well, ATM only tel:, as there are no specialized functionalities for different protocols. Probably when FSO will get nice VoIP support also sip: and friends will be supported. If you want to store some numbers for different protocol, just use different prefix. But for storing phone numbers usable in GSM networks use tel: prefix ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From shamsulbuddy at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 18:54:28 2009 From: shamsulbuddy at gmail.com (shamsul hassan) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:54:28 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Welcome to the "community" mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1d0730ae0909070954s2ef4e0c3g9025b24380e59479@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I would like to join this community.My small contribution can be find at www.neofundas.blogspot.com Thanks Shamsul ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:30 PM Subject: Welcome to the "community" mailing list To: shamsulbuddy at gmail.com Welcome to the community at lists.openmoko.org mailing list! 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Besides, it was not included in SHR, so no matter. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/appraw-desktop-file-patcher-for-fsoraw-tp3481050p3598552.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From tingox at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 20:04:52 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:04:52 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - Application layer server unexpectedly terminated?? Message-ID: Hei, I just finsihed installing QtMoko ("v8") on a new 2GB SDcard in my FreeRunner. This time with a 128M swap partition at /dev/mmcblk0p4 and all. I was happily navigating the user interface and menu when suddenly the screen was blanked, and all that remained was ^@^@ in the upper left corner. In /var/log/messages I can see this: Sep 7 19:56:11 neo Qtopia: ApplicationLayer: Application layer server unexpectedly terminated. Sep 7 19:56:11 neo Qtopia: ApplicationLayer: Application layer server unexpectedly terminated. Sep 7 19:56:11 neo Qtopia: QObject::startTimer: QTimer can only be used with threads started with QThread I'll have to reboot te phone anyway, baeuase it didn't detect my SIM on bootup (probably not inserted correctly). -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/d6ce1c77/attachment.htm From sxpert at sxpert.org Mon Sep 7 20:04:32 2009 From: sxpert at sxpert.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl?= Jacquot) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:04:32 +0200 Subject: Any news about Project B? In-Reply-To: <69a2e4550909070744u3d497dfcqbbf566bd081934ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <200909051422.48662.michael-tansella@gmx.de> <69a2e4550909060459h5ca5c2b2rb6a430fef53a0d96@mail.gmail.com> <20090906180016.GA31660@playya-laptop> <69a2e4550909070744u3d497dfcqbbf566bd081934ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252346672.14979.25.camel@flumotion.sxpert.org> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 20:14 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: > > > There are two possibilities about project B: > - it was abbandoned 2009-08-17 > - it's starting to being manufactured > > > To the best of my knowledge it was not abandoned on 17th August > 2009 :) > > Rakshat > so it's project "B" as in "BLACK" ;) me suspects it will be an opensource SR-71 blackbird ;) > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From david at garabana.com Mon Sep 7 20:06:52 2009 From: david at garabana.com (David Garabana Barro) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:06:52 +0200 Subject: sdcrard - most common partition layout? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200909072006.55907.david@garabana.com> O Domingo, 6 de Setembro de 2009, Torfinn Ingolfsen escribiu: > Hello, > > I just got myself a new SDcard for my FreeRunner (2 GB). Now I'm wondering > what is the most common layout people use on their SD crds? > I have ecently learned that QtMoko needs a swap partition (and that it is > hardcoded to p4). > What other partitions is useful on the card? > > I am thinking that since Qi (the boot loader) doesn't have a menu, putting > more than one system on a card is not that useful. Am I right? I Use the following partition scheme on my 16 GB Trascend uSD: Primary partitions: sd1-> 50 MiB ext2 /boot on every distribution. That way is easier to have different kernels sd2-> 500 MiB ASU (now om2009). sd3-> 2GiB Debian Extended partiitions: sd5-> 500 MiB for trying new distros. Now with qtmoko sd6-> 12 GiB Data (maps, music, photos, ..) sd7-> 256 MiB swap I use uboot as bootmanager, that way is easier to boot on different OS If you're not goint to try different new distros, this scheme is not for you, but, please, use at least 128 MB as swap partition. The difference is really really noticeable. You can use the same partition for all distros. -- David Garabana Barro jabber & google talk ID: david at garabana.com Clave p?blica PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/c3e20d9f/attachment.pgp From psonek2 at seznam.cz Mon Sep 7 20:23:11 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:23:11 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - Application layer server unexpectedly terminated?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252347791.32767.2.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > I just finsihed installing QtMoko ("v8") on a new 2GB SDcard in my > FreeRunner. > This time with a 128M swap partition at /dev/mmcblk0p4 and all. > > I was happily navigating the user interface and menu when suddenly > the screen was blanked, and all that remained was > ^@^@ > > in the upper left corner. > In /var/log/messages I can see this: > > Sep 7 19:56:11 neo Qtopia: ApplicationLayer: Application layer > server unexpectedly terminated. > Sep 7 19:56:11 neo Qtopia: ApplicationLayer: Application layer > server unexpectedly terminated. > Sep 7 19:56:11 neo Qtopia: QObject::startTimer: QTimer can only be > used with threads started with QThread I dont know why, but QtMoko does not run reliably from SD card (at least not for me). I suspect kernel, but i have no proof :) Regards Radek From tingox at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 20:44:50 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:44:50 +0200 Subject: sdcrard - most common partition layout? In-Reply-To: <200909072006.55907.david@garabana.com> References: <200909072006.55907.david@garabana.com> Message-ID: Hi, On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:06 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote: > O Domingo, 6 de Setembro de 2009, Torfinn Ingolfsen escribiu: > > Hello, > > > > I just got myself a new SDcard for my FreeRunner (2 GB). Now I'm > wondering > > what is the most common layout people use on their SD crds? > > I have ecently learned that QtMoko needs a swap partition (and that it is > > hardcoded to p4). > > What other partitions is useful on the card? > > > > I am thinking that since Qi (the boot loader) doesn't have a menu, > putting > > more than one system on a card is not that useful. Am I right? > > I Use the following partition scheme on my 16 GB Trascend uSD: > Thanks for sharing. > If you're not goint to try different new distros, this scheme is not for > you, > but, please, use at least 128 MB as swap partition. The difference is > really > really noticeable. You can use the same partition for all distros. > My 2GB card currently looks like this: neo:~# fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1203. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 1967 MB, 1967128576 bytes 57 heads, 56 sectors/track, 1203 cylinders Units = cylinders of 3192 * 512 = 1634304 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 694 1203 813960 6 FAT16 /dev/mmcblk0p2 1 307 489944 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p3 308 614 489972 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p4 615 693 126084 82 Linux swap / Solaris Partition table entries are not in disk order Command (m for help): That's a vfat p1: /dev/mmcblk0p1 794M 4.0K 794M 1% /media/card root on p2 (500M ext3) p3 (500M ext3, currently unused) p4 128M swap -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The reason I ask is that whenever I try to get the WLAN going, my ssh shell to the neo becomes unresponsive, and if I check in another shell (on my Linux machine) the usb interface has been down and then up, which means it looses its ip address. This makes it a bit harder to debug. Second: how can I debug this wireless problems? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/efc53761/attachment.htm From risto at kurppa.fi Mon Sep 7 21:19:43 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:19:43 +0300 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi David! Thanks a lot for your work! Looking forward to see the simple tool up & running! Some comments inline. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > -Package filtering:using a config file to block some packages to be > showed the showroom package selector in order to simplify the editors > works. > ?I consider than devel, docs, fonts, plugins from main packages and > libraries must not appear in a application showroom so using this > principle I have reduced from 8215 to 510 using the filter criteria in > a sql statement[2] on the shrunestable database Looks good to me so far, I also had a look at the SQL statement and looks good. Makes sense to filter away ~everything that is not a 'end user application': filter away all libraries, fonts & stuff, jus like you did. Any changes of posting a list of the 510 accepted packages to a pastebin for example for us to see what gets through. > Doubts on how to face the implementation of this: > -two approaches: > ?-on the import itself, no include this on the database on import > ? -pros:small and more quick database > ? -cons:a package not imported will be not posible to be included in > the showroom > ?-filter it on the showroom editor , build the sql query online using > this "blacklist" file to retry the allowed packages to be included. > ? -pros:possible to disable/modify the filter by the editor and being > able to include any package on the repo > ? -cons:big and slow? database, a bit more dificult to implement edit > management part. > This point is the first I will dedicate some time once the approach is > decided, if no input received I will procced with the second approach I don't know. But anywhere there needs to be the possibility to upgrade the database as new apps are added to repository -> it needs to be very automatic. To me it looks like that the filtering would be easiest to do when importing not to bloat the database with unused information. > -Web application (om-showroom it self) > Due the design is still pending I will start ?development on an an > ugly plain text ?and html tables without care about, styles, colours > or nothing image/look related , only focusing in that the info can be > shown and edited I agree - but use
-tags to make it easy to create a CSS template. Or what do I know about web pages.. > For the first release > -Welcome page > -App Navigation: > ?-the categories will be predefined with the freedesktop.org Main > registered ones[1], if the amount of apps of one category began to > rise then a two level navigation will be implemented using the > additional categories of freedesktop.org too. > ?-App Details: > ?-main screenshoot: a predef image will be shown if no one is uploaded > ?-Short description:based on the package description will be showed > in the applications list during navigation, editable through > application editor no mor e than 255 chars > ?-Description:description without char descriptions and surely not on > this release but in next ones with wiki formating style. > ?-package name, source and homepage inherited from packages info Look good! > ?-comments > ?-voting I'd be ready to drop this from the first version unless it's very easy to implement. Don't spend too much time on this. > ?-more screenshots?(doubt if it will be included on this release) One is good for the first release. > ?-additional links?(doubt if it will be included on this release) One is good for the first release. > -Editor page > ? -Form for edit all the above with > ? ? ? ?-Package filtering?(see Package filtering item above) > ? ? ? ?-Only apps with asociated package are allowed > ? ? ? ?-clear way to know which packages is already included and what > are pending and what are rejected (must be included on the filter?) > ? ? ? ?-The fist time an app is included this description will be > filled with the package description > ? ? ? ?-have in mind the future features, (multi-distro, multi-distro > version.. etc) Looks good. > Well that's all for now, :) I hope my next mail will be with something > to show, in spite it will be ugly :) nice, nice! Please have a look at this: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/building-community-around-your-foss.html - I think it's vital that there are more people working on this than you (and entil/Markus) alone! I'd possibly drop themes away.. (regarding e-wm-theme- ) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From risto at kurppa.fi Mon Sep 7 21:20:26 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:20:26 +0300 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Resending to include joao.. r ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Risto H. Kurppa Date: Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:19 PM Subject: Re: om-showroom half-serious task list To: List for Openmoko community discussion Hi David! Thanks a lot for your work! Looking forward to see the simple tool up & running! Some comments inline. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > -Package filtering:using a config file to block some packages to be > showed the showroom package selector in order to simplify the editors > works. > ?I consider than devel, docs, fonts, plugins from main packages and > libraries must not appear in a application showroom so using this > principle I have reduced from 8215 to 510 using the filter criteria in > a sql statement[2] on the shrunestable database Looks good to me so far, I also had a look at the SQL statement and looks good. Makes sense to filter away ~everything that is not a 'end user application': filter away all libraries, fonts & stuff, jus like you did. Any changes of posting a list of the 510 accepted packages to a pastebin for example for us to see what gets through. > Doubts on how to face the implementation of this: > -two approaches: > ?-on the import itself, no include this on the database on import > ? -pros:small and more quick database > ? -cons:a package not imported will be not posible to be included in > the showroom > ?-filter it on the showroom editor , build the sql query online using > this "blacklist" file to retry the allowed packages to be included. > ? -pros:possible to disable/modify the filter by the editor and being > able to include any package on the repo > ? -cons:big and slow? database, a bit more dificult to implement edit > management part. > This point is the first I will dedicate some time once the approach is > decided, if no input received I will procced with the second approach I don't know. But anywhere there needs to be the possibility to upgrade the database as new apps are added to repository -> it needs to be very automatic. To me it looks like that the filtering would be easiest to do when importing not to bloat the database with unused information. > -Web application (om-showroom it self) > Due the design is still pending I will start ?development on an an > ugly plain text ?and html tables without care about, styles, colours > or nothing image/look related , only focusing in that the info can be > shown and edited I agree - but use
-tags to make it easy to create a CSS template. Or what do I know about web pages.. > For the first release > -Welcome page > -App Navigation: > ?-the categories will be predefined with the freedesktop.org Main > registered ones[1], if the amount of apps of one category began to > rise then a two level navigation will be implemented using the > additional categories of freedesktop.org too. > ?-App Details: > ?-main screenshoot: a predef image will be shown if no one is uploaded > ?-Short description:based on the package description will be showed > in the applications list during navigation, editable through > application editor no mor e than 255 chars > ?-Description:description without char descriptions and surely not on > this release but in next ones with wiki formating style. > ?-package name, source and homepage inherited from packages info Look good! > ?-comments > ?-voting I'd be ready to drop this from the first version unless it's very easy to implement. Don't spend too much time on this. > ?-more screenshots?(doubt if it will be included on this release) One is good for the first release. > ?-additional links?(doubt if it will be included on this release) One is good for the first release. > -Editor page > ? -Form for edit all the above with > ? ? ? ?-Package filtering?(see Package filtering item above) > ? ? ? ?-Only apps with asociated package are allowed > ? ? ? ?-clear way to know which packages is already included and what > are pending and what are rejected (must be included on the filter?) > ? ? ? ?-The fist time an app is included this description will be > filled with the package description > ? ? ? ?-have in mind the future features, (multi-distro, multi-distro > version.. etc) Looks good. > Well that's all for now, :) I hope my next mail will be with something > to show, in spite it will be ugly :) nice, nice! Please have a look at this: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/building-community-around-your-foss.html ?- I think it's vital that there are more people working on this than you (and entil/Markus) alone! I'd possibly drop themes away.. (regarding e-wm-theme- ) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From tingox at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 21:20:56 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:20:56 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - Application layer server unexpectedly terminated?? In-Reply-To: <1252347791.32767.2.camel@rp-skunk> References: <1252347791.32767.2.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > I dont know why, but QtMoko does not run reliably from SD card (at > least not for me). I suspect kernel, but i have no proof :) > Well, this was the first boot. Now I am on my second boot with QtMoko, and so far it is working without crash (knock on wood). We'll see how long it lasts. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/9e90ab90/attachment.htm From risto at kurppa.fi Mon Sep 7 21:24:25 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:24:25 +0300 Subject: Welcome to the "community" mailing list In-Reply-To: <1d0730ae0909070954s2ef4e0c3g9025b24380e59479@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d0730ae0909070954s2ef4e0c3g9025b24380e59479@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello there! Welcome to the community! Nice blog post you have there for the #1024 fix. What'd you like to participate in? Fixing other people's phones, writing documentation on the wiki, developing applications, developing kernel and/or operating systems/desktops, participating in gta02-core -project (to create a process to produce open source phones), participate in phone tool development, create graphics. You tell us where your skills and interest are and we'll suggest you something :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From mickey at vanille-media.de Mon Sep 7 21:36:21 2009 From: mickey at vanille-media.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:36:21 +0200 Subject: Device Orientation API Message-ID: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> Hi folks, I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to be informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first take is at http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown". Comments? :M: From tingox at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 21:42:33 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:42:33 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - user manual? Message-ID: Is there a user manual for QtMoko somewhere? Or can I just ask all my newbie questions here? :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/cac37647/attachment.htm From openmoko-community at meurisse.org Mon Sep 7 22:57:09 2009 From: openmoko-community at meurisse.org (Vincent Meurisse) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:57:09 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - user manual? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200909072257.09820.openmoko-community@meurisse.org> On Monday 07 September 2009 21:42:33 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Is there a user manual for QtMoko somewhere? You have an help menu from quite anywhere. This may help you? or not :) > Or can I just ask all my newbie questions here? :-) This is also an option. -- Vincent Meurisse From psonek2 at seznam.cz Mon Sep 7 23:11:03 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:11:03 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working? In-Reply-To: References: <1252088393.3683.2.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: <1252357863.3741.1.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > First: does the network setup on the neo mess with the usb interface > when it tryes to get the WLAN going? > Specifically, does it do 'ifdown usb0' or something like it? Yes, IIRC it does. > The reason I ask is that whenever I try to get the WLAN going, my ssh > shell to the neo becomes unresponsive, and if I check in another shell > (on my Linux machine) the usb interface has been down and then up, > which means it looses its ip address. > This makes it a bit harder to debug. > > Second: how can I debug this wireless problems? You can edit the wireless script and remove the part where it shuts down usb0. Regards Radek From tingox at gmail.com Mon Sep 7 23:14:27 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 23:14:27 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - user manual? In-Reply-To: <200909072257.09820.openmoko-community@meurisse.org> References: <200909072257.09820.openmoko-community@meurisse.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Vincent Meurisse < openmoko-community at meurisse.org> wrote: > You have an help menu from quite anywhere. This may help you? or not :) > Yes, I know about the help menu, and have used it a lot. Unfortunately, it doesn't explain all things. And there isn't a help menu when those error messages pop up. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/ed683ca0/attachment.htm From psonek2 at seznam.cz Mon Sep 7 23:14:53 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:14:53 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - user manual? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252358093.3741.5.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Is there a user manual for QtMoko somewhere? No manual probably exists. If you build QtMoko from sources you will get really nice docs - but they are mostly for developers. > Or can I just ask all my newbie questions here? :-) I think this list should be ok. People who are not interested can easily skip all mails with QtMoko in subject. Radek From info at apertum.it Mon Sep 7 23:23:41 2009 From: info at apertum.it (-= Apertum =-) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:23:41 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - QX - "Unable to connect to X server" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AA579DD.3070306@apertum.it> * Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote, Il 07/09/2009 22:51: > > So I quit TangoGPS and QX, did my changes. > The I started QX again. But when I try to start TangoGPS now, I get > this error message: QX - "Unable to connect to X server". > > What is wrong? > I have the same issue. First time TangoGPS it's ok. Second time i get too the "Unable to connect to X Server" message. And also the panel page to launch QX, it's always behind if a push the Aux button, also if i press quit button on it. It can't kill X, i suppose, and the GUI it' always there waiting. -- Andrea From info at apertum.it Mon Sep 7 23:25:35 2009 From: info at apertum.it (-= Apertum =-) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:25:35 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - user manual? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AA57A4F.5030704@apertum.it> * Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote, Il 07/09/2009 21:42: > Is there a user manual for QtMoko somewhere? > Or can I just ask all my newbie questions here? :-) > You can add your questions, wishlist, suggestion, review, bug notification, etc etc, also on the Wiki. I strongly encourage the use of Wiki on the QtMoko project, because it can help a lot the user-experience for every QtMoko user, and the project itself :-) http://qtmoko.org -- Andrea From rms at ansol.org Mon Sep 7 23:44:27 2009 From: rms at ansol.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:44:27 +0100 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> Message-ID: <20090907214427.GC22155@roque.1407.org> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:36:21PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to be > informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first take is at > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD > > Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid > substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown". > > Comments? I agree wholeheartedly. omnewrotate was only a way to do "rotation" better than the alternatives, but such use of accelerometers is too shallow. IMHO it's better that the position is declared as sets of angles and that "portrait", et all be "aliases" for certan sets of angles within a certain tolerance, that certain listening apps would only pay attention to. This way, perhaps, one could mix flexibility with ease? Rui From david at tuxbrain.com Tue Sep 8 00:25:02 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 00:25:02 +0200 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909071525o7bb96467iee095cc3d39b1f0c@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/7 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : > On 9/7/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >> [2]select count(*) from package where NOT ?(package Like '%-doc' or >> package Like '%-dev' or package Like '%-dbg' ?or package Like 'font-%' >> ?or package Like 'task-%' or package Like 'ttf-%' ?or package Like >> '%-locale%' or package Like 'locale-%' or package Like 'lib%' or >> package Like 'kernel-%' or package Like 'perl-%' or package Like >> 'python-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like >> 'util-linux-%' or package Like 'e-wm-%' or package Like 'alsa-utils-%' >> or package Like 'abiword-%' or package Like 'evas-%' or package Like >> 'etk-%' or package Like 'ecore-%' or package Like 'e2fsprogs-%' or >> package Like 'connman-%' or package Like 'classpath-%' or package Like >> 'edbus-%' or package Like 'edje-%' or package Like 'efrecet-%' or >> package Like 'emotion-%' or package Like 'epsilon-%' or package Like >> 'ewl-%' or package Like 'finch-%' or package Like 'frameworkd-%' or >> package Like 'gdk-%' or package Like 'glibc-%' or package Like >> 'gnome-vfs-%' or package Like 'gpsd-%' or package Like 'gst-%' or >> package Like 'gtk-%' or package Like 'iputils-%' or package Like >> 'midpath-%' or package Like 'openssh-%' or package Like 'pam-%' or >> package Like 'pango-%' or package Like 'pidgin-%' or package Like >> 'ppp-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like 'tzdata-%' or >> package Like 'xserver-%') ?Order by ?package asc > > I think you should leave e-wm-theme-* packages. And you have > pulseaudio-% listed two times :) ok this happens to not do things in order :) fixed in the following query also mateining e-wm-theme packages select * from package where NOT (package Like '%-doc' or package Like '%-dev' or package Like '%-dbg' or package Like 'font-%' or package Like 'task-%' or package Like 'ttf-%' or package Like '%-locale%' or package Like 'locale-%' or package Like 'lib%' or package Like 'kernel-%' or package Like 'perl-%' or package Like 'python-%' or package Like 'util-linux-%' or package Like 'alsa-utils-%' or package Like 'abiword-%' or package Like 'evas-%' or package Like 'etk-%' or package Like 'ecore-%' or package Like 'e2fsprogs-%' or package Like 'connman-%' or package Like 'classpath-%' or package Like 'edbus-%' or package Like 'edje-%' or package Like 'efrecet-%' or package Like 'emotion-%' or package Like 'epsilon-%' or package Like 'ewl-%' or package Like 'finch-%' or package Like 'frameworkd-%' or package Like 'gdk-%' or package Like 'glibc-%' or package Like 'gnome-vfs-%' or package Like 'gpsd-%' or package Like 'gst-%' or package Like 'gtk-%' or package Like 'iputils-%' or package Like 'midpath-%' or package Like 'openssh-%' or package Like 'pam-%' or package Like 'pango-%' or package Like 'pidgin-%' or package Like 'ppp-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like 'tzdata-%' or package Like 'xserver-%' or (package Like 'e-wm-%' and not (package Like 'e-wm-theme%'))) > > -- > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > dos > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From denis.johnson at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 00:41:03 2009 From: denis.johnson at gmail.com (Denis Johnson) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 08:41:03 +1000 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: <20090907214427.GC22155@roque.1407.org> References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> <20090907214427.GC22155@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <20607da10909071541h66342128p89571e873a8ff0a6@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:36:21PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >> I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to be >> informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first take is at >> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD >> >> Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid >> substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown". >> >> Comments? > > I agree wholeheartedly. omnewrotate was only a way to do "rotation" better than > the alternatives, but such use of accelerometers is too shallow. > > IMHO it's better that the position is declared as sets of angles and that > "portrait", et all be "aliases" for certan sets of angles within a certain > tolerance, that certain listening apps would only pay attention to. > > This way, perhaps, one could mix flexibility with ease? +1 Perhaps one should be able to define the sets and aliases and that a set does not only include one axis, so that an alias such as "top-left-down" are possible. Thinking further, is it likely for different apps to want to use different resolutions so for example mokomaze will want pretty high resolution but another app that starts up may request/ inject (my term) an additional set/alias to be reported. cheers Denis From david at tuxbrain.com Tue Sep 8 00:42:53 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 00:42:53 +0200 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909071542k7adad05br9f679ebe8e63b369@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542k7adad05br9f679ebe8e63b369@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909071542l716997b0s678262e479183776@mail.gmail.com> I forget to copy joao too :) 2009/9/8 David Reyes Samblas Martinez : > 2009/9/7 Risto H. Kurppa : >> Hi David! >> >> Thanks a lot for your work! Looking forward to see the simple tool up & running! >> >> Some comments inline. >> >> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, David Reyes Samblas >> Martinez wrote: >>> -Package filtering:using a config file to block some packages to be >>> showed the showroom package selector in order to simplify the editors >>> works. >>> ?I consider than devel, docs, fonts, plugins from main packages and >>> libraries must not appear in a application showroom so using this >>> principle I have reduced from 8215 to 510 using the filter criteria in >>> a sql statement[2] on the shrunestable database >> >> Looks good to me so far, I also had a look at the SQL statement and >> looks good. Makes sense to filter away ~everything that is not a 'end >> user application': filter away all libraries, fonts & stuff, jus like >> you did. Any changes of posting a list of the 510 accepted packages to >> a pastebin for example for us to see what gets through. > attached is a csv file with result of the revised query including the ew themes > >> >>> Doubts on how to face the implementation of this: >>> -two approaches: >>> ?-on the import itself, no include this on the database on import >>> ? -pros:small and more quick database >>> ? -cons:a package not imported will be not posible to be included in >>> the showroom >>> ?-filter it on the showroom editor , build the sql query online using >>> this "blacklist" file to retry the allowed packages to be included. >>> ? -pros:possible to disable/modify the filter by the editor and being >>> able to include any package on the repo >>> ? -cons:big and slow? database, a bit more dificult to implement edit >>> management part. >>> This point is the first I will dedicate some time once the approach is >>> decided, if no input received I will procced with the second approach >> >> I don't know. But anywhere there needs to be the possibility to >> upgrade the database as new apps are added to repository -> it needs >> to be very automatic. To me it looks like that the filtering would be >> easiest to do when importing not to bloat the database with unused >> information. > I like the joao aproach more comments on his reply. >> >>> -Web application (om-showroom it self) >>> Due the design is still pending I will start ?development on an an >>> ugly plain text ?and html tables without care about, styles, colours >>> or nothing image/look related , only focusing in that the info can be >>> shown and edited >> >> I agree - but use
-tags to make it easy to create a CSS >> template. Or what do I know about web pages.. > I will do my best , I hope Victor will be free of his actual boring > but extremely prioritized tasks to join the party soon, he is the > html/design guy , he always converts my Quasimodo in Hally Berry :P >> >>> For the first release >>> -Welcome page >>> -App Navigation: >>> ?-the categories will be predefined with the freedesktop.org Main >>> registered ones[1], if the amount of apps of one category began to >>> rise then a two level navigation will be implemented using the >>> additional categories of freedesktop.org too. >>> ?-App Details: >>> ?-main screenshoot: a predef image will be shown if no one is uploaded >>> ?-Short description:based on the package description will be showed >>> in the applications list during navigation, editable through >>> application editor no mor e than 255 chars >>> ?-Description:description without char descriptions and surely not on >>> this release but in next ones with wiki formating style. >>> ?-package name, source and homepage inherited from packages info >> >> Look good! >> >>> ?-comments >>> ?-voting >> >> I'd be ready to drop this from the first version unless it's very easy >> to implement. Don't spend too much time on this. > ok keeping ?your advice in mind >> >>> ?-more screenshots?(doubt if it will be included on this release) >> >> One is good for the first release. > ok >> >>> ?-additional links?(doubt if it will be included on this release) >> >> One is good for the first release. > one or none :) for first release >> >>> -Editor page >>> ? -Form for edit all the above with >>> ? ? ? ?-Package filtering?(see Package filtering item above) >>> ? ? ? ?-Only apps with asociated package are allowed >>> ? ? ? ?-clear way to know which packages is already included and what >>> are pending and what are rejected (must be included on the filter?) >>> ? ? ? ?-The fist time an app is included this description will be >>> filled with the package description >>> ? ? ? ?-have in mind the future features, (multi-distro, multi-distro >>> version.. etc) >> >> Looks good. >> >> >>> Well that's all for now, :) I hope my next mail will be with something >>> to show, in spite it will be ugly :) >> >> nice, nice! >> >> Please have a look at this: >> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/building-community-around-your-foss.html >> ?- I think it's vital that there are more people working on this than >> you (and entil/Markus) alone! >> >> I'd possibly drop themes away.. (regarding e-wm-theme- ) > themes are a quite visual mod to the neo susceptible to have a > beautiful screen captures, meanwhile his installation is as easy as an > opkg install, and someone wants to include it under settings > cattegory... why not? >> >> r >> >> -- >> | risto h. kurppa >> | risto at kurppa dot fi >> | http://risto.kurppa.fi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community at lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > -- > David Reyes Samblas Martinez > http://www.tuxbrain.com > Open ultraportable & embedded solutions > Openmoko, Openpandora, ?Arduino > Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From daniel.l.staley at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 00:57:50 2009 From: daniel.l.staley at gmail.com (Dan Staley) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:57:50 -0400 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: <20607da10909071541h66342128p89571e873a8ff0a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> <20090907214427.GC22155@roque.1407.org> <20607da10909071541h66342128p89571e873a8ff0a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Denis Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra > wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:36:21PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > >> I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to > be > >> informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first take > is at > >> > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD > >> > >> Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. > Valid > >> substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown". > >> > >> Comments? > > > > I agree wholeheartedly. omnewrotate was only a way to do "rotation" > better than > > the alternatives, but such use of accelerometers is too shallow. > > > > IMHO it's better that the position is declared as sets of angles and that > > "portrait", et all be "aliases" for certan sets of angles within a > certain > > tolerance, that certain listening apps would only pay attention to. > > > > This way, perhaps, one could mix flexibility with ease? > > +1 > > Perhaps one should be able to define the sets and aliases and that a > set does not only include one axis, so that an alias such as > "top-left-down" are possible. > > Thinking further, is it likely for different apps to want to use > different resolutions so for example mokomaze will want pretty high > resolution but another app that starts up may request/ inject (my > term) an additional set/alias to be reported. > > cheers Denis > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > +1 for the proposed API. I'd love a dbus message to be sent on portrait and landscape. Though I think you would probably need portrait, reversePortrait, landscape, and reverseLandscape (to specify which side of the device is "up" in each mode) However, I tend to think that this functionality probably wouldn't be as suited to something like mokomaze. More for applications that just want a few different positions to be notified on. (Like the proposed few) Applications that need finer granularity such as Mokomaze should probably still read the accelerometers directly. Just my two cents though. Thanks Mickey! -Dan Staley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090907/d8fe5a32/attachment.htm From bernd.pruenster at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 01:06:08 2009 From: bernd.pruenster at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bernd_Pr=FCnster?=) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 01:06:08 +0200 Subject: nEo theme issues Message-ID: didnt really read the ml for about 1 month now, but there are somi issues with teh neo theme (read somethign about it in th launcher thread also in the germa freeyourphone forum. i am currently moving to another city in another federal state. things will be worked out as soon as i have internet at home. right now i am using the internet terminal at mcdonalds to check on most important things. since mailinglists tend to leave issues and bits of information scattered, please if you want the remainign nEo theme issues to be resolved post them here and it will be take care of, cause i am not gonna look for suggestions/bugreporst all over the list. i just look into topics i find interesting so either post issues here or mail me directly. gn8 From david at tuxbrain.com Tue Sep 8 01:18:26 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 01:18:26 +0200 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909071618s357c959ev5248f1368e8506d4@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/7 Joao Pinto : > Hello David, > see my opinion below. > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:26 PM, David Reyes Samblas > Martinez wrote: >> Hi, heres is my "serious" proposal of task list for the firt release >> of the showroom, also some doubt and comments, joao I need some >> guiadance. >> >> -Package filtering:using a config file to block some packages to be >> showed the showroom package selector in order to simplify the editors >> works. >> ?this config file will contain a list of strings with wildcards and if >> any package name meets one of this will not appear on the package >> list. >> ?I consider than devel, docs, fonts, plugins from main packages and >> libraries must not appear in a application showroom so using this >> principle I have reduced from 8215 to 510 using the filter criteria in >> a sql statement[2] on the shrunestable database >> >> Doubts on how to face the implementation of this: >> -two approaches: >> ?-on the import itself, no include this on the database on import >> ? -pros:small and more quick database >> ? -cons:a package not imported will be not posible to be included in >> the showroom >> ?-filter it on the showroom editor , build the sql query online using >> this "blacklist" file to retry the allowed packages to be included. >> ? -pros:possible to disable/modify the filter by the editor and being >> able to include any package on the repo >> ? -cons:big and slow? database, a bit more dificult to implement edit >> management part. >> This point is the first I will dedicate some time once the approach is >> decided, if no input received I will procced with the second approach >> > > We could use a mixed approach, the filters editable from the web > frontend and stored on the db, however it's enforcement would be > during import and filter updates by setting an is_visible flag on the > packages. With ?this approach we would be minimizing the impact of the > filter matching on the real time queries. I like it :), so this mean : -modify a bit the core models/db to include this characteristic and also both the opkg2sql and apt2sql to read the blacklist (if any) and inform that new field - modify the packages.py controller to filter is_visible false packages, here is doubt, modify the main controller from common/controller/packages.py or create an application specific controller? > >> -Web application (om-showroom it self) >> Due the design is still pending I will start ?development on an an >> ugly plain text ?and html tables without care about, styles, colours >> or nothing image/look related , only focusing in that the info can be >> shown and edited >> >> For the first release >> -Welcome page >> -App Navigation: >> ?-the categories will be predefined with the freedesktop.org Main >> registered ones[1], if the amount of apps of one category began to >> rise then a two level navigation will be implemented using the >> additional categories of freedesktop.org too. >> ?-App Details: >> ?-main screenshoot: a predef image will be shown if no one is uploaded >> ?-Short description:based on the package description will be showed >> in the applications list during navigation, editable through >> application editor no mor e than 255 chars >> ?-Description:description without char descriptions and surely not on >> this release but in next ones with wiki formating style. >> ?-package name, source and homepage inherited from packages info >> ?-comments >> ?-voting >> ?-more screenshots?(doubt if it will be included on this release) >> ?-additional links?(doubt if it will be included on this release) >> -Editor page >> ? -Form for edit all the above with >> ? ? ? ?-Package filtering?(see Package filtering item above) >> ? ? ? ?-Only apps with asociated package are allowed > > The current admin workflow already enforces this, you are only alloed > to create application entries from packages. I know but I want everybody aware on this :) > >> ? ? ? ?-clear way to know which packages is already included and what >> are pending and what are rejected (must be included on the filter?) > > The current admin workflow already enforces this, you only see the > packages which require an action, classification or application > association and definition. Ok yes, I have seen it on the admin of playdeb, this only reinforce my thoughts than apt-portal is a good choice :) > >> ? ? ? ?-The fist time an app is included this description will be >> filled with the package description >> ? ? ? ?-have in mind the future features, (multi-distro, multi-distro >> version.. etc) >> >> Well that's all for now, :) I hope my next mail will be with something >> to show, in spite it will be ugly :) >> >> [1]http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html >> [2]select count(*) from package where NOT ?(package Like '%-doc' or >> package Like '%-dev' or package Like '%-dbg' ?or package Like 'font-%' >> ?or package Like 'task-%' or package Like 'ttf-%' ?or package Like >> '%-locale%' or package Like 'locale-%' or package Like 'lib%' or >> package Like 'kernel-%' or package Like 'perl-%' or package Like >> 'python-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like >> 'util-linux-%' or package Like 'e-wm-%' or package Like 'alsa-utils-%' >> or package Like 'abiword-%' or package Like 'evas-%' or package Like >> 'etk-%' or package Like 'ecore-%' or package Like 'e2fsprogs-%' or >> package Like 'connman-%' or package Like 'classpath-%' or package Like >> 'edbus-%' or package Like 'edje-%' or package Like 'efrecet-%' or >> package Like 'emotion-%' or package Like 'epsilon-%' or package Like >> 'ewl-%' or package Like 'finch-%' or package Like 'frameworkd-%' or >> package Like 'gdk-%' or package Like 'glibc-%' or package Like >> 'gnome-vfs-%' or package Like 'gpsd-%' or package Like 'gst-%' or >> package Like 'gtk-%' or package Like 'iputils-%' or package Like >> 'midpath-%' or package Like 'openssh-%' or package Like 'pam-%' or >> package Like 'pango-%' or package Like 'pidgin-%' or package Like >> 'ppp-%' or package Like 'pulseaudio-%' or package Like 'tzdata-%' or >> package Like 'xserver-%') ?Order by ?package asc >> >> -- >> David Reyes Samblas Martinez >> http://www.tuxbrain.com >> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions >> Openmoko, Openpandora, ?Arduino >> Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! >> > > > > -- > Jo?o Lu?s Marques Pinto > GetDeb Team Leader > http://www.getdeb.net > http://blog.getdeb.net > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 01:18:32 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 01:18:32 +0200 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> Message-ID: <359c5480909071618m16cb805n39c66bae4da1d3f2@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to be > informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first take is at > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD > > Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid > substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown". > > Comments? Nice! in the past I heard about accelges integration, something moving? Regards Nicola From david at tuxbrain.com Tue Sep 8 01:28:09 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 01:28:09 +0200 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909071542l716997b0s678262e479183776@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542k7adad05br9f679ebe8e63b369@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542l716997b0s678262e479183776@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909071628p40def81cs65f4973f0056eb9d@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/8 David Reyes Samblas Martinez : > I forget to copy joao too :) > > 2009/9/8 David Reyes Samblas Martinez : >> 2009/9/7 Risto H. Kurppa : >>> Hi David! >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your work! Looking forward to see the simple tool up & running! >>> >>> Some comments inline. >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM, David Reyes Samblas >>> Martinez wrote: >>>> -Package filtering:using a config file to block some packages to be >>>> showed the showroom package selector in order to simplify the editors >>>> works. >>>> ?I consider than devel, docs, fonts, plugins from main packages and >>>> libraries must not appear in a application showroom so using this >>>> principle I have reduced from 8215 to 510 using the filter criteria in >>>> a sql statement[2] on the shrunestable database >>> >>> Looks good to me so far, I also had a look at the SQL statement and >>> looks good. Makes sense to filter away ~everything that is not a 'end >>> user application': filter away all libraries, fonts & stuff, jus like >>> you did. Any changes of posting a list of the 510 accepted packages to >>> a pastebin for example for us to see what gets through. >> attached is a csv file with result of the revised query including the ew themes seems that the attachment is 9K too big to pass the filter, you can download here http://www.tuxbrain.com/downloads/package_filtered.csv.tar.bz2 >> >>> >>>> Doubts on how to face the implementation of this: >>>> -two approaches: >>>> ?-on the import itself, no include this on the database on import >>>> ? -pros:small and more quick database >>>> ? -cons:a package not imported will be not posible to be included in >>>> the showroom >>>> ?-filter it on the showroom editor , build the sql query online using >>>> this "blacklist" file to retry the allowed packages to be included. >>>> ? -pros:possible to disable/modify the filter by the editor and being >>>> able to include any package on the repo >>>> ? -cons:big and slow? database, a bit more dificult to implement edit >>>> management part. >>>> This point is the first I will dedicate some time once the approach is >>>> decided, if no input received I will procced with the second approach >>> >>> I don't know. But anywhere there needs to be the possibility to >>> upgrade the database as new apps are added to repository -> it needs >>> to be very automatic. To me it looks like that the filtering would be >>> easiest to do when importing not to bloat the database with unused >>> information. >> I like the joao aproach more comments on his reply. >>> >>>> -Web application (om-showroom it self) >>>> Due the design is still pending I will start ?development on an an >>>> ugly plain text ?and html tables without care about, styles, colours >>>> or nothing image/look related , only focusing in that the info can be >>>> shown and edited >>> >>> I agree - but use
-tags to make it easy to create a CSS >>> template. Or what do I know about web pages.. >> I will do my best , I hope Victor will be free of his actual boring >> but extremely prioritized tasks to join the party soon, he is the >> html/design guy , he always converts my Quasimodo in Hally Berry :P >>> >>>> For the first release >>>> -Welcome page >>>> -App Navigation: >>>> ?-the categories will be predefined with the freedesktop.org Main >>>> registered ones[1], if the amount of apps of one category began to >>>> rise then a two level navigation will be implemented using the >>>> additional categories of freedesktop.org too. >>>> ?-App Details: >>>> ?-main screenshoot: a predef image will be shown if no one is uploaded >>>> ?-Short description:based on the package description will be showed >>>> in the applications list during navigation, editable through >>>> application editor no mor e than 255 chars >>>> ?-Description:description without char descriptions and surely not on >>>> this release but in next ones with wiki formating style. >>>> ?-package name, source and homepage inherited from packages info >>> >>> Look good! >>> >>>> ?-comments >>>> ?-voting >>> >>> I'd be ready to drop this from the first version unless it's very easy >>> to implement. Don't spend too much time on this. >> ok keeping ?your advice in mind >>> >>>> ?-more screenshots?(doubt if it will be included on this release) >>> >>> One is good for the first release. >> ok >>> >>>> ?-additional links?(doubt if it will be included on this release) >>> >>> One is good for the first release. >> one or none :) for first release >>> >>>> -Editor page >>>> ? -Form for edit all the above with >>>> ? ? ? ?-Package filtering?(see Package filtering item above) >>>> ? ? ? ?-Only apps with asociated package are allowed >>>> ? ? ? ?-clear way to know which packages is already included and what >>>> are pending and what are rejected (must be included on the filter?) >>>> ? ? ? ?-The fist time an app is included this description will be >>>> filled with the package description >>>> ? ? ? ?-have in mind the future features, (multi-distro, multi-distro >>>> version.. etc) >>> >>> Looks good. >>> >>> >>>> Well that's all for now, :) I hope my next mail will be with something >>>> to show, in spite it will be ugly :) >>> >>> nice, nice! >>> >>> Please have a look at this: >>> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/building-community-around-your-foss.html >>> ?- I think it's vital that there are more people working on this than >>> you (and entil/Markus) alone! >>> >>> I'd possibly drop themes away.. (regarding e-wm-theme- ) >> themes are a quite visual mod to the neo susceptible to have a >> beautiful screen captures, meanwhile his installation is as easy as an >> opkg install, and someone wants to include it under settings >> cattegory... why not? >>> >>> r >>> >>> -- >>> | risto h. kurppa >>> | risto at kurppa dot fi >>> | http://risto.kurppa.fi >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community at lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> David Reyes Samblas Martinez >> http://www.tuxbrain.com >> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions >> Openmoko, Openpandora, ?Arduino >> Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! >> > > > > -- > David Reyes Samblas Martinez > http://www.tuxbrain.com > Open ultraportable & embedded solutions > Openmoko, Openpandora, ?Arduino > Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From mickey at vanille-media.de Tue Sep 8 01:34:09 2009 From: mickey at vanille-media.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 01:34:09 +0200 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: <359c5480909071618m16cb805n39c66bae4da1d3f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> <359c5480909071618m16cb805n39c66bae4da1d3f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909080134.09458.mickey@vanille-media.de> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 01:18:32 Nicola Mfb wrote: > Nice! in the past I heard about accelges integration, something moving? Unfortunately not. This work is completely independent of accelges. I always hoped that Paul would help us integrating accelges into FSO, but that didn't quite happen. In order to do something meaningful with our accelerometers in the meantime, I decided to start with some simple algorithms that would at least cover some common cases like waking up / suspending on certain orientations or running an application or rotating the screen based on orientation. Once we have something simple going, we can eventually revisit accelges and its algorithms and integrate more complex processing into FSO. :M: From mickey at vanille-media.de Tue Sep 8 01:39:13 2009 From: mickey at vanille-media.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 01:39:13 +0200 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> <20607da10909071541h66342128p89571e873a8ff0a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909080139.13934.mickey@vanille-media.de> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 00:57:50 Dan Staley wrote: > +1 for the proposed API. I'd love a dbus message to be sent on portrait > and landscape. > Though I think you would probably need portrait, reversePortrait, > landscape, and reverseLandscape (to specify which side of the device is > "up" in each mode) Right, a couple of people have reported that I've been missing the 3rd parameter, thanks guys! :) > However, I tend to think that this functionality probably wouldn't be as > suited to something like mokomaze. > More for applications that just want a few different positions to be > notified on. (Like the proposed few) > Applications that need finer granularity such as Mokomaze should probably > still read the accelerometers directly. Correct. dbus is still overhead, hence it would not be clever to just forward the raw values, especially since an application that needs raw values is almost always a full window, full concentration application -- hence not much value (sic!) in distributing the values to other applications at the same time. The accelerometers will also fit nicely into the FSO Resource system. Cheers, :M: From billk at iinet.net.au Tue Sep 8 02:56:07 2009 From: billk at iinet.net.au (William Kenworthy) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:56:07 +0800 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> Message-ID: <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:43 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/7/09, William Kenworthy wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 17:20 +0530, Vikas Saurabh wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Quite often when I get a call, all I see is the locked screen. Now, > >> what I would expect is to able to accept the call without actually > >> unlocking the phone. > >> Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. > >> Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right > >> rejects it. > >> > >> --Vikas > >> > >> PS: I had a look at the TODO list in git( > >> http://github.com/slyon/today/blob/b279a6af85352de0ca9db4ac3c1f4f06e086ed8b/TODO) > >> and this didn't appear there > >> > > > > An observation - Ive lost a few calls (~5) now due to wsod on resume - > > until this is fixed (and after so long, is it likely to ever be fixed?) > > WTF? WSOD still happening? What kernel do you use? o_O > 2.6.28 - never been able to get GSM working on 2.6.29 so thats not an option. WSOD happens when using Qi, not when using uboot. But uboot may need multiple boot attempts before even 2.6.28 will talk to the gsm chipset, whereas Qi is reliable - something is not getting initialised properly somewhere. Yeah, I know I should be using 2.6.29, but I dont think thats the problem, and I if I cant use it as a phone whats the point? BillK From billk at iinet.net.au Tue Sep 8 02:58:48 2009 From: billk at iinet.net.au (William Kenworthy) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:58:48 +0800 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <20090907145400.GA24749@merkur.sol.de> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> <20090907145400.GA24749@merkur.sol.de> Message-ID: <1252371528.3869.115.camel@rattus> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:54 +0200, Jens Seidel wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > On 9/7/09, William Kenworthy wrote: > > > An observation - Ive lost a few calls (~5) now due to wsod on resume - > > > until this is fixed (and after so long, is it likely to ever be fixed?) > > > > WTF? WSOD still happening? What kernel do you use? o_O > > Oh, yes, WSOD still happens. > > But in contrast to the past the problem may vanish after a further suspend, > see http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2274 (Kernel regression: white > screen of death reappeared with 2.6.29). > > I was suprised about the fact that one no longer has to restart to get again > a working state and verified it only a few hours ago. In general one needs > only one or two suspend iterations until the white screen vanished :-) > > Jens > Yes, suspending fixes it tempoarily - it will randomly come back. And suspending when a call comes in is not really what you want. WSOD happens randomly (maybe 1 in 10) on anything that causes the FR to come out of suspend, manual, sms, call, alarm, ... BillK From undrwater at verizon.net Tue Sep 8 05:34:22 2009 From: undrwater at verizon.net (undrwater) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252380862717-3600813.post@n2.nabble.com> Vikas Saurabh wrote: > > > Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. > Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right > rejects it. > > I like the idea as well. Doesn't have to be a slider, but a definite pair of gestures could works as well. russell dwiggins -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-Today-Accept-call-without-unlocking-tp3596892p3600813.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nelg at linuxsolutions.co.nz Tue Sep 8 07:21:36 2009 From: nelg at linuxsolutions.co.nz (Glen Ogilvie) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:21:36 +1200 Subject: QtMoko - help fixing incomming call bug In-Reply-To: <1252132502.3683.14.camel@rp-skunk> References: <1252132502.3683.14.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: <200909081721.36650.nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz> Hi Radek, I'll configure this as, as hit this bug as well, although now use my phone a bit less, so testing will take longer. Glen On Sat, 05 Sep 2009, Radek Polak wrote: > Hi, > i am trying to fix the bug, when there is sometimes no sound in incoming > call after reboot. My guess is that alsa scenario is not applied > correctly in this case. The problem is that i cant reproduce this issue > reliably - and when i want to debug it, it simply disappears. > > I'd appreciate if you could enable logging in: > > Main menu->Settings->Logging->Menu->Categories->AudioState > > and send me /var/log/messages when you hit the bug. > > Thanks > > Radek > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/20e44d86/attachment-0001.pgp From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 8 07:37:59 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 08:37:59 +0300 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909071628p40def81cs65f4973f0056eb9d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542k7adad05br9f679ebe8e63b369@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542l716997b0s678262e479183776@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071628p40def81cs65f4973f0056eb9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I had a look at the list and sorted apps I'd like or like not to see there or apps that I don't know if they should be at showroom. I guess my criteria is something like this: - The app needs a GUI - preferably a graphical X GUI but I also accepted some that have a decent CLI-gui (like irssi) This drops out most libraries, servers, daemons, GNU tools etc - I've excluded keyboard layouts - If there's package and package-common, I've included package but left -common out since dependencies should take care of that this means only paroli is included, paroli-theme -sounds and -autostart not. If needed, add to the description! - I included themes - I guess it's something people want to see - I excluded opimd stuff as it doesn't have decent implementation yet (sorry if I'm wrong here), only test scripts. - All phone apps (SHR, zhone, paroli, ..) are included Our intent (mine not, at least) is not to work as a WWW package manager but show nice applications. The intend is not to replace opkg list|grep tool_I_need or graphical package managers. Bloating the repository with cli tools like grep or sed or stuff like bash and busybox. Oh yes, I'm sure I've made some mistakes. 515 packages 9 of those, I don't know if they should be included 401 of those - don't include 105 YES, include! Included packages: abiword AbiWord is free word processing program similar to Microsoft(r) Word accelges Openmoko Accelerometer-based Gestures aceofpenguins The Ace of Penguins is a set of Unix/X solitaire games based on the ones available for Windows(tm) but with a number of enhancements that my wife says make my versions better :-) The latest version includes clones of freecell, golf, mastermind, merlin, minesweeper, pegged, solitaire, taipei (with editor!), and thornq (by Martin Thornquist). aceofpenguins-launcher EFL launcher for ace-of-penguins bubble-keyboard Simple dialpad keyboard calc A simple calculator which is elementary-themed callrec a call recording application cellhunter CellHunter - A game to collect information about mobile phone cells claws-mail Mail user agent connman The Moblin Connection Manager dates Dates is a calendar application. dictator Call recodering program for Neo Smartphones dillo2 Lightweight gtk+2 browser. e-wm-theme-default The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 e-wm-theme-illume The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee Extremely blue Illume theme - Niebiee e-wm-theme-illume-shr illume SHR theme e-wm-theme-illume-sixteen illume SHR theme ebrainy Store knowledge in form of questions and answers and train them. elementary-alarm An Elementary based Alarm app elementary-tests EFL based widget set for mobile devices elementary-theme-niebiee Extremely blue elementary theme - Niebiee elementary-theme-sixteen elementary SHR theme elementary-themes EFL based widget set for mobile devices elmdentica A indenti.ca client for E enotes todo list manager in EFL epdfview A minimal PDF viewer based on gtk and poppler essential-dialer Simple Dialer based on Elementary and FSO evince Evince is a document viewer for document formats like pdf, ps, djvu. exhibit Exhibit is the ETK picture viewer fbreader FBreader is an ebook reader ffalarms Finger friendly alarms fltk-chess fltk-chess is a frontend for the Gnuchess chess playing engine. gawk A program that you can use to select particular records in a file and perform operations upon them. gnome-icon-theme Version 2.22.0-r0 of package gnome-icon-theme gnuchess Gnuchess is a chess playing engine. gpe-calendar GPE calendar is the calendar application of the GPE PIM suite. gpe-contacts GPE contacts manager gpe-filemanager GPE file manager gpe-gallery GPE image viewer application gpe-icons Common icons for GPE gpe-scap A GPE application that allows you to take screenshots. gpe-sketchbook A GPE notebook to sketch your notes gpe-timesheet GPE time tracker gpe-todo GPE to-do list gridpad Gridpad handstroke recognition hicolor-icon-theme Version 0.10-r0 of package hicolor-icon-theme intone intone is a mplayer frontend for openmoko phones irssi Irssi is a modular IRC client with Perl scripting. leafpad GTK+ based simple text editor links-x11 Links is graphics and text mode WWW browser, similar to Lynx. mc GNU Midnight Commander is a file manager for free operating systems. mcabber Jabber ncurses client midori Midori is a lightweight web browser. mofi Mofi mokoko Mokoko - a simple media player mokomaze Classic game where you control a steel ball by tilting a wooden labyrinth mokonnect mokonnect is an e17 frontend to connmand mtpaint mtPaint is a simple painting program notifier A notifier for new calls and messages numptyphysics Numpty Physics is a drawing puzzle game in the spirit (and style?) of Crayon Physics using the same excellent Box2D engine. oh-puzzles Portable Puzzle Collection om-neon Simple image viewer omgps GPS application for openmoko freerunner omnewrotate OpenMoko New Rotate is a screen rotation program omoney OMoney is a bookkeeping application for Openmoko omview OMView openbmap-logger openBmap logger and uploader of GPS/GSM data openmoko-agpsui GPS diagnostic tool openmoko-icon-theme-standard2 Standard Gtk+ icon theme for the Openmoko framework openmoocow OpenMooCow makes your phone (nearly) become a cow! orrery orrery paroli Paroli pidgin multi-protocol instant messaging client pingus Pingus is a free Lemmings clone. pyefl-sudoku Sudoku is a logic-based number-placement puzzle. The objective is to fill a 9?9 grid so that each column, each row, and each of the nine 3?3 boxes (also called blocks or regions) contains the digits from 1 to 9 only one time each. pyphonelog PyPhonelog is a phonelog gui that connects to the shr daemon/a custom daemon pythm Pythm is a media player gui designed to work with mplayer or mpd as "slave" players.use mplayer to hear music on the road or mpd control if your are at home. qwo qwo virtual keyboard remoko Remoko -- Bluetooth Remote Control remoko-server The Remoko HID Server shr-contacts The SHR Contacts application shr-dialer The SHR Dialer shr-installer EFL frontend for packagekit shr-messages The SHR Messages shr-settings Modular settings application for SHR based on python-elementary shr-splash-theme-dontpanic SHR splash screen - DON'T PANIC theme shr-splash-theme-handy SHR splash screen - handy theme shr-splash-theme-niebiee SHR splash screen - extremely blue Niebiee theme shr-splash-theme-simple SHR splash screen - simple SHR theme shr-theme Standard icon theme for the SHR distribution shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike A gtk theme that looks like e17 shr-today python-elementary and opimd based lock and today screen for the SHR distribution sms-sentry An SMS monitor to locate a Neo Freerunner supertux-qvga SuperTux is a classic 2D jump'n'run sidescroller game in a style similar to the original SuperMario games (QVGA, size-optimized version) tangogps tangoGPS is a map and GPS application using Openstreetmap usb-gadget-mode Manage the default USB gadget mode usbmode Freerunner USB Mode Control Program vagalume Last.fm client vala-terminal A lightweight Terminal Emulator based on libvte, written in Vala. wv Programs for accessing Microsoft Word documents xchat Full-featured IRC chat client with scripting support xournal Xournal is an application for notetaking, sketching, keeping a journal using a stylus. xterm xterm is the standard terminal emulator for the X Window System. zhone A phone UI based on the freesmartphone.org framework Excluded: http://pastebin.com/m30e333a1 Don't know: xprop X application opimd-utils Test scripts for freesmartphone.org opimd interface tasks Task list application plaympeg SMPEG is a general purpose MPEG video/audio player for Linux based on the mpeg_play and SPLAY MPEG decoders. xtscal Touchscreen calibration utility shr-splash SHR splash screen groff GNU roff intuition Intuition a prototype context dependent mobile search engine jamvm A compact Java Virtual Machine which conforms to the JVM specification version 2. The full CSV file with fields to sort is available at http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/package_filtered.csv I don't know what's the best way to implement this It's not easy to create rules for this.. In a way I think each app (or each package) should be individually accepted in the showroom, it's hard to create (&maintain!) a decent filter regexp to cover this all.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From martin.jansa at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 08:54:07 2009 From: martin.jansa at gmail.com (Martin Jansa) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 08:54:07 +0200 Subject: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working? In-Reply-To: <1252125403626-3583908.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20090903201424.9a29f762.huelsegge@gmx.de> <1252029211399-3577306.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252066387793-3579520.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904123225.GB3046@jama> <1252068512670-3579709.post@n2.nabble.com> <20090904133420.GC3046@jama> <1252125403626-3583908.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20090908065407.GE3688@jama> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 11:36:43PM -0500, c_c wrote: > > http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk > > > > Or when desktop at home is running then there will updated build every > > day, if there is a change in mplayer svn (carefull my up is only 2mb/s). > > http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.dev.gta/ipk/armv4t/ > > > Thanks. Will try it and post back. Maybe try rather -r13 or/and -r14 (links in attachement), I've included config files for setting default -ac to tremor,mad and -vo to glamo > How low is 'low accuracy'? And why do we need the floating point > implementation if it kill as much as 50% cpu? I'm not able to distinguish between sound of tremor/ffvorbis/vorbis, so low accuracy is anough for my ears. > Does this version need the -ac flag? -r12 yes.. it even used ffvorbis by default and then failed with Unsupported instruction (will investigate later if someone interested in vorbis floating point version on arm) -r13 and -r14 have -ac set to tremor,mad in config file installed in /usr/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf I made a small bash test-suite mplayerTest.sh in [1], which I used to test available binaries for features (which -ac fails with them) and for performance (real/user/sys time from time command) see mplayerTest.final in [2] or more details in mplayer.log in [3]. If you have some interesting binary, please send me your results or link which version should I test with my testfiles. Conclusion from test: 1) tremor is really way to go without FPU on neo. 2) mad (fixed point implementation of mp3 decoder) performs also better on neo than ffmp3, but not as significantly asi tremor/vorbis. 3) only binaries without tremor support are sad to say old glamo version mplayerOG and mplayerUN from shr-unstable feed. My upgraded mplayer with rebased glamo patch works for me now only on shr-unstable. On my experimental install with xorg from git it's rendered somewhere (or at least it seems so from logs), but nothing is shown on display. And sdl -vo even makes xserver to segfault imediately. Maybe I'll try to build updated binaries with external tremor from xiph upstream 1) svn://svn.xiph.org/trunk;module=Tremor;proto=http 2) svn://svn.xiph.org/branches/lowmem-branch;module=Tremor;proto=http 3) internal tremor but with disabled tremor-low but last time I checked it was the same from performance POV. -- uin:136542059 jid:Martin.Jansa at gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jamasip at voip.wengo.fr JaMa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2 mplayerPT http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer-ptt_dev-SVN-r28791-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk mplayerTL http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk mplayerTT http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk mplayerUN http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r12_armv4t.ipk F .. when command failed with error exit status L .. see LOG below, codec not found or not used as expected | Codec | Build | | real | user | sys | DATA | tremor | mplayer13 | | 0:36.13 | 10.79 | 2.29 | | ffvorbis | mplayer13 |F| 0:00.56 | 0.35 | 0.16 | | vorbis | mplayer13 |L| 0:00.51 | 0.33 | 0.14 | | mad | mplayer13 | | 0:35.72 | 11.34 | 1.06 | | ffmp3 | mplayer13 | | 0:37.50 | 17.02 | 2.66 | | sdl | mplayer13 | | 0:32.50 | 12.98 | 1.17 | | glamo | mplayer13 | | 0:31.42 | 5.50 | 1.03 | | tremor | mplayer14 | | 0:36.15 | 10.13 | 3.08 | | ffvorbis | mplayer14 |F| 0:00.58 | 0.33 | 0.20 | | vorbis | mplayer14 |L| 0:00.47 | 0.30 | 0.14 | | mad | mplayer14 | | 0:35.68 | 11.02 | 1.09 | | ffmp3 | mplayer14 | | 0:37.73 | 17.83 | 1.77 | | sdl | mplayer14 | | 0:32.55 | 13.02 | 1.23 | | glamo | mplayer14 | | 0:31.45 | 5.45 | 0.93 | | tremor | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.67 | 0.53 | 0.12 | | ffvorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.73 | 0.51 | 0.17 | | vorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 | 0.49 | 0.16 | | mad | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.33 | 0.17 | 0.08 | | ffmp3 | mplayerOG | | 0:01.84 | 1.65 | 0.12 | | sdl | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 | 0.50 | 0.12 | | glamo | mplayerOG | | 0:30.79 | 0.49 | 0.25 | | tremor | mplayerPT | | 0:36.12 | 14.96 | 2.34 | | ffvorbis | mplayerPT |F| 0:00.59 | 0.31 | 0.18 | | vorbis | mplayerPT |L| 0:00.40 | 0.20 | 0.18 | | mad | mplayerPT | | 0:35.94 | 11.53 | 1.25 | | ffmp3 | mplayerPT | | 0:37.52 | 16.01 | 2.09 | | sdl | mplayerPT |L| 0:31.23 | 5.44 | 1.55 | | glamo | mplayerPT |L| 0:31.35 | 5.34 | 1.61 | | tremor | mplayerTL | | 0:35.95 | 12.16 | 1.41 | | ffvorbis | mplayerTL |L| 0:00.48 | 0.30 | 0.15 | | vorbis | mplayerTL |L| 0:00.47 | 0.29 | 0.16 | | mad | mplayerTL | | 0:35.98 | 11.33 | 1.21 | | ffmp3 | mplayerTL | | 0:37.60 | 18.07 | 1.89 | | sdl | mplayerTL | | 0:33.12 | 13.02 | 0.98 | | glamo | mplayerTL | | 0:31.26 | 5.38 | 1.67 | | tremor | mplayerTT | | 0:36.41 | 15.00 | 2.53 | | ffvorbis | mplayerTT |L| 0:00.47 | 0.33 | 0.14 | | vorbis | mplayerTT |L| 0:00.53 | 0.30 | 0.16 | | mad | mplayerTT | | 0:35.95 | 11.35 | 1.08 | | ffmp3 | mplayerTT | | 0:37.62 | 16.91 | 3.08 | | sdl | mplayerTT | | 0:32.98 | 12.98 | 0.94 | | glamo | mplayerTT | | 0:31.26 | 5.28 | 1.78 | | tremor | mplayerUN |L| 0:01.02 | 0.18 | 0.20 | | ffvorbis | mplayerUN | | 0:36.15 | 22.46 | 2.10 | | vorbis | mplayerUN | | 0:35.74 | 11.66 | 2.05 | | mad | mplayerUN | | 0:35.57 | 11.77 | 1.89 | | ffmp3 | mplayerUN | | 0:37.51 | 17.13 | 2.73 | | sdl | mplayerUN | | 0:32.32 | 12.59 | 0.99 | | glamo | mplayerUN | | 0:31.31 | 4.88 | 1.92 | LOG_sorted_by_codec DATA | ffmp3 | mplayer13 | | 0:37.50 | 17.02 | 2.66 | | ffmp3 | mplayer14 | | 0:37.73 | 17.83 | 1.77 | | ffmp3 | mplayerOG |L| 0:01.84 | 1.65 | 0.12 | | ffmp3 | mplayerPT | | 0:37.52 | 16.01 | 2.09 | | ffmp3 | mplayerTL | | 0:37.60 | 18.07 | 1.89 | | ffmp3 | mplayerTT | | 0:37.62 | 16.91 | 3.08 | | ffmp3 | mplayerUN | | 0:37.51 | 17.13 | 2.73 | | ffvorbis | mplayer13 |F| 0:00.56 | 0.35 | 0.16 | | ffvorbis | mplayer14 |F| 0:00.58 | 0.33 | 0.20 | | ffvorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.73 | 0.51 | 0.17 | | ffvorbis | mplayerPT |F| 0:00.59 | 0.31 | 0.18 | | ffvorbis | mplayerTL |L| 0:00.48 | 0.30 | 0.15 | | ffvorbis | mplayerTT |L| 0:00.47 | 0.33 | 0.14 | | ffvorbis | mplayerUN | | 0:36.15 | 22.46 | 2.10 | | glamo | mplayer13 | | 0:31.42 | 5.50 | 1.03 | | glamo | mplayer14 | | 0:31.45 | 5.45 | 0.93 | | glamo | mplayerOG | | 0:30.79 | 0.49 | 0.25 | | glamo | mplayerPT | | 0:31.35 | 5.34 | 1.61 | | glamo | mplayerTL | | 0:31.26 | 5.38 | 1.67 | | glamo | mplayerTT | | 0:31.26 | 5.28 | 1.78 | | glamo | mplayerUN | | 0:31.31 | 4.88 | 1.92 | | mad | mplayer13 | | 0:35.72 | 11.34 | 1.06 | | mad | mplayer14 | | 0:35.68 | 11.02 | 1.09 | | mad | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.33 | 0.17 | 0.08 | | mad | mplayerPT | | 0:35.94 | 11.53 | 1.25 | | mad | mplayerTL | | 0:35.98 | 11.33 | 1.21 | | mad | mplayerTT | | 0:35.95 | 11.35 | 1.08 | | mad | mplayerUN | | 0:35.57 | 11.77 | 1.89 | | sdl | mplayer13 | | 0:32.50 | 12.98 | 1.17 | | sdl | mplayer14 | | 0:32.55 | 13.02 | 1.23 | | sdl | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 | 0.50 | 0.12 | | sdl | mplayerPT | | 0:31.23 | 5.44 | 1.55 | | sdl | mplayerTL | | 0:33.12 | 13.02 | 0.98 | | sdl | mplayerTT | | 0:32.98 | 12.98 | 0.94 | | sdl | mplayerUN | | 0:32.32 | 12.59 | 0.99 | | tremor | mplayer13 | | 0:36.13 | 10.79 | 2.29 | | tremor | mplayer14 | | 0:36.15 | 10.13 | 3.08 | | tremor | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.67 | 0.53 | 0.12 | | tremor | mplayerPT | | 0:36.12 | 14.96 | 2.34 | | tremor | mplayerTL | | 0:35.95 | 12.16 | 1.41 | | tremor | mplayerTT | | 0:36.41 | 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/c54ad7c4/attachment.pgp From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 8 08:56:03 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 01:56:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, The last one had issues sending sms's. This one works fine. I'm keeping the newest sms's at the top of the list now. Hope that works fine too. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3601418/launcher launcher -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3601418.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 8 08:57:29 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:57:29 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - help fixing incomming call bug In-Reply-To: <200909081721.36650.nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz> References: <1252132502.3683.14.camel@rp-skunk> <200909081721.36650.nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz> Message-ID: <1252393049.4585.1.camel@rp-glum> Glen Ogilvie wrote: > I'll configure this as, as hit this bug as well, although now use my phone a > bit less, so testing will take longer. Hi Glen, thanks. I have already real fix for the problem in my GIT. Now i will try to do something about SMS bug and will do new release. Regards Radek From david at tuxbrain.com Tue Sep 8 09:38:32 2009 From: david at tuxbrain.com (David Reyes Samblas Martinez) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:38:32 +0200 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542k7adad05br9f679ebe8e63b369@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542l716997b0s678262e479183776@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071628p40def81cs65f4973f0056eb9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c6ceea80909080038o77041417g36603d942e9bfe5f@mail.gmail.com> > The full CSV file with fields to sort is available at > http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/package_filtered.csv > > I don't know what's the best way to implement this > It's not easy to create rules for this.. > In a way I think each app (or each package) should be individually > accepted in the showroom, it's hard to create (&maintain!) a decent > filter regexp to cover this all.. > Risto, take in account than the list of packages is only visible by the admin/editors and is only visible to the public once linked to an application so they act as filter too so the showing of only user apps is quite granted. Never the less, due we will have a blacklist file to manage this and will be done in import time , even an package by package filter will be allowed. Regards > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! From mjt at nysv.org Tue Sep 8 09:50:43 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:50:43 +0300 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 03:27:13PM +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: >> Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) > >I applied the latest BFS patch to the andy-tracking branch of the >kernel but it wouldn't build - probably an indication of my noob >kernel skills rather than the applicability of the patch, however. >Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-) I have a ton of unread OpenMoko emails about all important things, way way too busy right now, but seems now is a good time reply to this ;) http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/ There's a patch for 2.6.31-rc9 and a patch that looks like it changes how nice levels work http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/2.6.31-rc9-sched-bfs-210.patch http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs210-test.patch Wanna try 'em out? Thanks! -- mjt From niall at sgenomics.org Tue Sep 8 10:17:53 2009 From: niall at sgenomics.org (Niall Haslam) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:17:53 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <1252380862717-3600813.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252380862717-3600813.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <200909081017.54050.niall@sgenomics.org> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 05:34, undrwater wrote: > Vikas Saurabh wrote: > > Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. > > Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right > > rejects it. > > I like the idea as well. Doesn't have to be a slider, but a definite pair > of gestures could works as well. I like the Z movement from the Zlock program. To me, this is a much simpler movement that can more easily be done without looking at the screen. From risto at kurppa.fi Tue Sep 8 10:28:58 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:28:58 +0300 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909080038o77041417g36603d942e9bfe5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542k7adad05br9f679ebe8e63b369@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542l716997b0s678262e479183776@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071628p40def81cs65f4973f0056eb9d@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909080038o77041417g36603d942e9bfe5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:38 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > >> The full CSV file with fields to sort is available at >> http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/package_filtered.csv >> >> I don't know what's the best way to implement this >> It's not easy to create rules for this.. >> In a way I think each app (or each package) should be individually >> accepted in the showroom, it's hard to create (&maintain!) a decent >> filter regexp to cover this all.. >> > Risto, take in account than the list of packages is only visible by > the admin/editors and is only visible to the public once linked to an > application so they act as filter too so the showing of only user apps > is quite granted. Never the less, due we will have a blacklist file to > manage this and will be done in import time , even an package by > package filter will be allowed. > > Regards Ah, ok, great! I'm slow learning how apt-portal works :) SO the editors/admins have a list of ~500 packages and they then need to work a bit to 'publish' these? Doesn't sound too bad! Maybe these could be safely added: alsa-* (9 packages) avahi* (5 packages) fso-* (5 packages) illume-keyboard-* (someone might disagree on this..) (12 packages) matchbox-* (5 packages) ntp* (6 packages) These 6 rules would drop almost 50 packages away. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From openmoko at ginguppin.de Tue Sep 8 11:04:16 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:04:16 +0200 Subject: opimd: unified api for sent/received Message-ID: before filing a bug report, i'd like to ask here ... last weekend i patched zhone to enable opimd (only listing of messages so far). while working with it i saw that incoming and outgoing messages have different fiels (sender vs receiver, no timestamp for sent messages, ...), which makes handling imo unnecessary complex. i didn't yet check calls, but i guess it's the same there, too. since the messages are stored in the very same table with the same columns, i don't really see why the prepared results should differ. imo both types should have the same set of attributes -- direction:in or direction:out are sufficient to distinguish and handle different if necessary. is the missing timestamp for sent messages by purpose or caused by the transition from zhone-sent to opimd? From kazer at altern.org Tue Sep 8 12:15:37 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (kazer at altern.org) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:15:37 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <29430.82.127.37.100.1252404937.squirrel@www.altern.org> > > Hi, > The last one had issues sending sms's. This one works fine. I'm keeping > the newest sms's at the top of the list now. Hope that works fine too. > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3601418/launcher launcher > In fact, with this one i only see the latest received sms since i replied. I received another message, and i can only see this one (but both are with the other ones in sqlite-messages.db). Does it helps? From jensseidel at users.sf.net Tue Sep 8 11:01:55 2009 From: jensseidel at users.sf.net (Jens Seidel) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:01:55 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> Message-ID: <20090908090151.GA9011@merkur.sol.de> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:56:07AM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:43 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > WTF? WSOD still happening? What kernel do you use? o_O > > 2.6.28 - never been able to get GSM working on 2.6.29 so thats not an > option. > > WSOD happens when using Qi, not when using uboot. But uboot may need > multiple boot attempts before even 2.6.28 will talk to the gsm chipset, > whereas Qi is reliable - something is not getting initialised properly > somewhere. Funny, it's opposite for me. I used until yesterday 2.6.29 together with uboot but switched back to 2.6.28 and now the WSOD vanished. Great! With 2.6.29 WSOD happened very often (I would say in 50% of all cases). Don't remember GSM status with 2.6.29 (works great with 2.6.28), used it in the past mainly as PDA. Jens From kazer at altern.org Tue Sep 8 12:03:51 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (kazer at altern.org) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251803128784-3559779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <27993.82.127.37.100.1252404231.squirrel@www.altern.org> > > Hi, > The last one had issues sending sms's. This one works fine. I'm keeping > the newest sms's at the top of the list now. Hope that works fine too. > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3601418/launcher launcher > Hi c_c. I still have issues with that binary (af1b4f517dbc9bca6487b712d75c90a2 launcher). I replied a message (the top view is better for reading, thanks) and it segfaulted. Now, my answer is in sqlite-messages.db (with other older messages), but i only see one message that i received after replying (and after the segfault) in the conversation view. Any idea of what's wrong? Thanks in advance. From rms at ansol.org Tue Sep 8 11:23:27 2009 From: rms at ansol.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:23:27 +0100 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> Message-ID: <20090908092327.GG22155@roque.1407.org> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 10:50:43AM +0300, Markus T?rnqvist wrote: > On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 03:27:13PM +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: > >> Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) > > > >I applied the latest BFS patch to the andy-tracking branch of the > >kernel but it wouldn't build - probably an indication of my noob > >kernel skills rather than the applicability of the patch, however. > >Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-) > > I have a ton of unread OpenMoko emails about all important things, > way way too busy right now, but seems now is a good time reply to this ;) > > http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/ > > There's a patch for 2.6.31-rc9 and a patch that looks like it changes > how nice levels work > > http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/2.6.31-rc9-sched-bfs-210.patch > > http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs210-test.patch > > Wanna try 'em out? It seems someone is trying it out on Android: http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163 One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now. http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3835449787 I will push the bfs enabled kernel to Github tomorrow. Was a little tricky to backport for 2.6.29. http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3835424076 I think it can be made even better too, but there is almost no need. BFS + Android = sexytime http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3835076257 Just want to say it again... wow. http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3835027843 BFS: http://bit.ly/tqGSy http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3835025620 ok, some initial testing and bfs is really screaming! like, really really screaming. http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3834875403 BFS on Android is pretty good so far! From nad.oby at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 11:54:21 2009 From: nad.oby at gmail.com (Evgeniy Ginzburg) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:54:21 +0400 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AA629CD.9040505@gmail.com> On 07.09.2009 19:26, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > Hi, heres is my "serious" proposal of task list for the firt release > of the showroom, also some doubt and comments, joao I need some > guiadance. [snip] > -Web application (om-showroom it self) > Due the design is still pending I will start development on an an > ugly plain text and html tables without care about, styles, colours > or nothing image/look related , only focusing in that the info can be > shown and edited Plaintext - yes! Tables - no! redesigning (ugly plaintext -> nice skin) *will* be pain with tables IMO. Use
    ,
    , and so on. It's easy, believe me. > For the first release > -Welcome page Do you really need it - "We just need packages" approach seems good enough. "Most popular" page may suit fine. > -App Navigation: > -the categories will be predefined with the freedesktop.org Main > registered ones[1], if the amount of apps of one category began to > rise then a two level navigation will be implemented using the > additional categories of freedesktop.org too. It don't have to be the page, navbar/tag cloud you can choose whatever you up too. It is possible to create auto-generated listings for apps in a category. [snip] -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 11:58:24 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:58:24 +0200 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <20090908092327.GG22155@roque.1407.org> References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> <20090908092327.GG22155@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163 > One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now. On a wl500 router the performance hit is 1.5 time faster;) http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125233663823328&w=2 Laszlo From iknowjoseph at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 12:04:56 2009 From: iknowjoseph at gmail.com (Joseph Reeves) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:04:56 +0100 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> <20090908092327.GG22155@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <958244340909080304n3bd77bbfjc2e2d7f18cd14b28@mail.gmail.com> SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win? 2009/9/8 Laszlo KREKACS : > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: >> http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163 >> One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now. > > On a wl500 router the performance hit is 1.5 time faster;) > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125233663823328&w=2 > > Laszlo > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From mjt at nysv.org Tue Sep 8 12:09:07 2009 From: mjt at nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:09:07 +0300 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <958244340909080304n3bd77bbfjc2e2d7f18cd14b28@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> <20090908092327.GG22155@roque.1407.org> <958244340909080304n3bd77bbfjc2e2d7f18cd14b28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090908100907.GU28624@nysv.org> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:04:56AM +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: >SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win? Would appear that way if someone had the time and environment; I really loved the Android stuff on Twitter :) -- mjt From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 12:10:13 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:10:13 +0200 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <958244340909080304n3bd77bbfjc2e2d7f18cd14b28@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> <20090908092327.GG22155@roque.1407.org> <958244340909080304n3bd77bbfjc2e2d7f18cd14b28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Joseph Reeves wrote: > SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win? +KMS Laszlo From rms at ansol.org Tue Sep 8 12:11:34 2009 From: rms at ansol.org (Rui Miguel Silva Seabra) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:11:34 +0100 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <958244340909080304n3bd77bbfjc2e2d7f18cd14b28@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> <20090908092327.GG22155@roque.1407.org> <958244340909080304n3bd77bbfjc2e2d7f18cd14b28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090908101134.GH22155@roque.1407.org> What's up with the drivers from OpenWRT? Are they different? Why aren't they merged? On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:04:56AM +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: > SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win? > > 2009/9/8 Laszlo KREKACS : > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > >> http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163 > >> One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now. > > > > On a wl500 router the performance hit is 1.5 time faster;) > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125233663823328&w=2 From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 8 12:45:16 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 05:45:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <27993.82.127.37.100.1252404231.squirrel@www.altern.org> References: <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> <27993.82.127.37.100.1252404231.squirrel@www.altern.org> Message-ID: <1252406716566-3602438.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, KaZeR wrote: > > I replied a message (the top view is better for reading, > thanks) and it segfaulted. > Ok. Sorted out. Try this. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3602438/launcher launcher KaZeR wrote: > > Now, my answer is in sqlite-messages.db (with other older messages), but i > only see one message that i received after replying (and after the > segfault) in the conversation view. > Problems with the sync. Exit launcher. Then, use the terminal and give the following commands:- 1. sqlite3 /home/root/.launcher/launcher.db 2. update state set smstime=0; 3. delete from sms; 4 .q The run launcher - it should get all the messages. HTH -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3602438.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 8 12:57:29 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 05:57:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252406716566-3602438.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251897041500-3566595.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> <27993.82.127.37.100.1252404231.squirrel@www.altern.org> <1252406716566-3602438.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252407449993-3602496.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Also, you can try auto-connecting your bt headset post resume by checking the autoconnect Headset cb in Preferences. Set the bt headset address - but use _ instead of :. ie Address 11:22:33 becomes 11_22_33. Press the set button to set the address. Let me know if it works. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3602496.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From iknowjoseph at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 14:08:48 2009 From: iknowjoseph at gmail.com (Joseph Reeves) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:08:48 +0100 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <20090908101134.GH22155@roque.1407.org> References: <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> <20090908075043.GT28624@nysv.org> <20090908092327.GG22155@roque.1407.org> <958244340909080304n3bd77bbfjc2e2d7f18cd14b28@mail.gmail.com> <20090908101134.GH22155@roque.1407.org> Message-ID: <958244340909080508h45e89bb7t5398d1925220a4b0@mail.gmail.com> > What's up with the drivers from OpenWRT? Are they different? Why aren't they merged? I've only really read on here about them, but I'm told that some are complete rewrites that provide potentially big improvements. Don't know about their status in other distributions, however. Forgot to add + new glamo stuff in my list too; looks like the pieces are coming together... Cheers, Joseph 2009/9/8 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > What's up with the drivers from OpenWRT? Are they different? Why aren't they merged? > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:04:56AM +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: >> SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win? >> >> 2009/9/8 Laszlo KREKACS : >> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: >> >> http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163 >> >> One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now. >> > >> > On a wl500 router the performance hit is 1.5 time faster;) >> > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125233663823328&w=2 > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From cchandel at yahoo.com Tue Sep 8 14:52:16 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 07:52:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small improvements suggestion to intone In-Reply-To: References: <1252149532008-3584832.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252159937392-3585318.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252163645254-3585909.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172290047-3586453.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252172421094-3586458.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252219384223-3591628.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252414336398-3603052.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > When I returned to the list view, there were still a 'to add files > use Songs button' item in the list. > You need to select a playlist for this to go. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > I clicked on the album view, and segmentation fault happened. > Sorted out. Thanks for pointing it out - I'd missed that. Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > However it does not display the head icon when there is no > cover art, it displays nothing, blank. > Actually the head icon is the default if you use a photo widget and don't set it to an image / set it to an image file that doesn't exist. I am now using the image widget for the smoothening effect. It doesn't show anything else if the image is not found. As I mentioned before, the ipk from shr's feeds are missing the no-album-art.jpg file which should be in the /usr/share/intone directory. Here is the file - you can manually copy it to /usr/share/intone. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3603052/no-album-art.jpg no-album-art.jpg Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > It tend to display the end of the list. > Yup. Need to sort that out. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Small-improvements-suggestion-to-intone-tp3584668p3603052.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 16:23:21 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:23:21 +0200 Subject: om-showroom half-serious task list In-Reply-To: References: <5c6ceea80909070826r65eba4cod459adbe017a3347@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542k7adad05br9f679ebe8e63b369@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071542l716997b0s678262e479183776@mail.gmail.com> <5c6ceea80909071628p40def81cs65f4973f0056eb9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/8/09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > I had a look at the list and sorted apps I'd like or like not to see > there or apps that I don't know if they should be at showroom. > > I guess my criteria is something like this: > - The app needs a GUI - preferably a graphical X GUI but I also > accepted some that have a decent CLI-gui (like irssi) > This drops out most libraries, servers, daemons, GNU tools etc > - I've excluded keyboard layouts They probably should be included, but in some other way (grouping? categories?) > - If there's package and package-common, I've included package but > left -common out since dependencies should take care of that > this means only paroli is included, paroli-theme -sounds and > -autostart not. If needed, add to the description! > - I included themes - I guess it's something people want to see > - I excluded opimd stuff as it doesn't have decent implementation yet > (sorry if I'm wrong here), only test scripts. What does it mean? opimd is part of FSO, how it could be excluded? :x Maybe you mean opimd-utils, but then you want to include opimd-utils and opimd-utils-notes packages, and exclude opimd-utils-data and opimd-utils-cli. > Our intent (mine not, at least) is not to work as a WWW package > manager but show nice applications. The intend is not to replace opkg > list|grep tool_I_need or graphical package managers. Bloating the > repository with cli tools like grep or sed or stuff like bash and > busybox. ++ > Oh yes, I'm sure I've made some mistakes. > > 515 packages > > 9 of those, I don't know if they should be included > 401 of those - don't include > 105 YES, include! > > Included packages: > > abiword AbiWord is free word processing program similar to Microsoft(r) Word > accelges Openmoko Accelerometer-based Gestures > aceofpenguins The Ace of Penguins is a set of Unix/X solitaire games > based on the ones available for Windows(tm) but with a number of > enhancements that my wife says make my versions better :-) The latest > version includes clones of freecell, golf, mastermind, merlin, > minesweeper, pegged, solitaire, taipei (with editor!), and thornq (by > Martin Thornquist). > aceofpenguins-launcher EFL launcher for ace-of-penguins > bubble-keyboard Simple dialpad keyboard > calc A simple calculator which is elementary-themed > callrec a call recording application > cellhunter CellHunter - A game to collect information about mobile phone > cells > claws-mail Mail user agent > connman The Moblin Connection Manager That's not UI app (connman) > dates Dates is a calendar application. > dictator Call recodering program for Neo Smartphones > dillo2 Lightweight gtk+2 browser. > e-wm-theme-default The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 > e-wm-theme-illume The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 > e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee Extremely blue Illume theme - Niebiee > e-wm-theme-illume-shr illume SHR theme > e-wm-theme-illume-sixteen illume SHR theme > ebrainy Store knowledge in form of questions and answers and train them. > elementary-alarm An Elementary based Alarm app > elementary-tests EFL based widget set for mobile devices > elementary-theme-niebiee Extremely blue elementary theme - Niebiee > elementary-theme-sixteen elementary SHR theme > elementary-themes EFL based widget set for mobile devices > elmdentica A indenti.ca client for E > enotes todo list manager in EFL > epdfview A minimal PDF viewer based on gtk and poppler > essential-dialer Simple Dialer based on Elementary and FSO > evince Evince is a document viewer for document formats like pdf, ps, djvu. > exhibit Exhibit is the ETK picture viewer > fbreader FBreader is an ebook reader > ffalarms Finger friendly alarms > fltk-chess fltk-chess is a frontend for the Gnuchess chess playing engine. > gawk A program that you can use to select particular records in a file > and perform operations upon them. > gnome-icon-theme Version 2.22.0-r0 of package gnome-icon-theme > gnuchess Gnuchess is a chess playing engine. > gpe-calendar GPE calendar is the calendar application of the GPE PIM suite. > gpe-contacts GPE contacts manager > gpe-filemanager GPE file manager > gpe-gallery GPE image viewer application > gpe-icons Common icons for GPE > gpe-scap A GPE application that allows you to take screenshots. > gpe-sketchbook A GPE notebook to sketch your notes > gpe-timesheet GPE time tracker > gpe-todo GPE to-do list > gridpad Gridpad handstroke recognition > hicolor-icon-theme Version 0.10-r0 of package hicolor-icon-theme > intone intone is a mplayer frontend for openmoko phones > irssi Irssi is a modular IRC client with Perl scripting. > leafpad GTK+ based simple text editor > links-x11 Links is graphics and text mode WWW browser, similar to Lynx. > mc GNU Midnight Commander is a file manager for free operating systems. > mcabber Jabber ncurses client > midori Midori is a lightweight web browser. > mofi Mofi > mokoko Mokoko - a simple media player > mokomaze Classic game where you control a steel ball by tilting a > wooden labyrinth > mokonnect mokonnect is an e17 frontend to connmand > mtpaint mtPaint is a simple painting program > notifier A notifier for new calls and messages > numptyphysics Numpty Physics is a drawing puzzle game in the spirit > (and style?) of Crayon Physics using the same excellent Box2D engine. > oh-puzzles Portable Puzzle Collection > om-neon Simple image viewer > omgps GPS application for openmoko freerunner > omnewrotate OpenMoko New Rotate is a screen rotation program > omoney OMoney is a bookkeeping application for Openmoko > omview OMView > openbmap-logger openBmap logger and uploader of GPS/GSM data > openmoko-agpsui GPS diagnostic tool > openmoko-icon-theme-standard2 Standard Gtk+ icon theme for the > Openmoko framework > openmoocow OpenMooCow makes your phone (nearly) become a cow! > orrery orrery > paroli Paroli > pidgin multi-protocol instant messaging client > pingus Pingus is a free Lemmings clone. > pyefl-sudoku Sudoku is a logic-based number-placement puzzle. The > objective is to fill a 9?9 grid so that each column, each row, and > each of the nine 3?3 boxes (also called blocks or regions) contains > the digits from 1 to 9 only one time each. > pyphonelog PyPhonelog is a phonelog gui that connects to the shr > daemon/a custom daemon > pythm Pythm is a media player gui designed to work with mplayer or mpd > as "slave" players.use mplayer to hear music on the road or mpd > control if your are at home. > qwo qwo virtual keyboard > remoko Remoko -- Bluetooth Remote Control > remoko-server The Remoko HID Server > shr-contacts The SHR Contacts application > shr-dialer The SHR Dialer > shr-installer EFL frontend for packagekit > shr-messages The SHR Messages I think you can exclude shr-contacts, shr-dialer and shr-messages, and you should include libframeworkd-phonegui-*. shr-* phone apps are only simple wrappers around libframeworkd-phonegui libs, which are the ones who do GUI. > shr-settings Modular settings application for SHR based on python-elementary > shr-splash-theme-dontpanic SHR splash screen - DON'T PANIC theme > shr-splash-theme-handy SHR splash screen - handy theme > shr-splash-theme-niebiee SHR splash screen - extremely blue Niebiee theme > shr-splash-theme-simple SHR splash screen - simple SHR theme > shr-theme Standard icon theme for the SHR distribution > shr-theme-gtk-e17lookalike A gtk theme that looks like e17 > shr-today python-elementary and opimd based lock and today screen for > the SHR distribution > sms-sentry An SMS monitor to locate a Neo Freerunner > supertux-qvga SuperTux is a classic 2D jump'n'run sidescroller game in > a style similar to the original SuperMario games (QVGA, size-optimized > version) > tangogps tangoGPS is a map and GPS application using Openstreetmap > usb-gadget-mode Manage the default USB gadget mode > usbmode Freerunner USB Mode Control Program > vagalume Last.fm client > vala-terminal A lightweight Terminal Emulator based on libvte, written in > Vala. > wv Programs for accessing Microsoft Word documents > xchat Full-featured IRC chat client with scripting support > xournal Xournal is an application for notetaking, sketching, keeping a > journal using a stylus. > xterm xterm is the standard terminal emulator for the X Window System. > zhone A phone UI based on the freesmartphone.org framework > > > Excluded: http://pastebin.com/m30e333a1 > > Don't know: > xprop X application > opimd-utils Test scripts for freesmartphone.org opimd interface Include opimd-utils and opimd-utils-notes. > tasks Task list application > plaympeg SMPEG is a general purpose MPEG video/audio player for Linux > based on the mpeg_play and SPLAY MPEG decoders. > xtscal Touchscreen calibration utility > shr-splash SHR splash screen Hmm... Probably you should exclude it. > groff GNU roff > intuition Intuition a prototype context dependent mobile search engine > jamvm A compact Java Virtual Machine which conforms to the JVM > specification version 2. IMHO jamvm should be included. > > The full CSV file with fields to sort is available at > http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/package_filtered.csv > > I don't know what's the best way to implement this > It's not easy to create rules for this.. > In a way I think each app (or each package) should be individually > accepted in the showroom, it's hard to create (&maintain!) a decent > filter regexp to cover this all.. > > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 16:29:19 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:29:19 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <20090908090151.GA9011@merkur.sol.de> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> <20090908090151.GA9011@merkur.sol.de> Message-ID: On 9/8/09, Jens Seidel wrote: > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:56:07AM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:43 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> > WTF? WSOD still happening? What kernel do you use? o_O >> >> 2.6.28 - never been able to get GSM working on 2.6.29 so thats not an >> option. >> >> WSOD happens when using Qi, not when using uboot. But uboot may need >> multiple boot attempts before even 2.6.28 will talk to the gsm chipset, >> whereas Qi is reliable - something is not getting initialised properly >> somewhere. > > Funny, it's opposite for me. I used until yesterday 2.6.29 together with > uboot but switched back to 2.6.28 and now the WSOD vanished. Great! > > With 2.6.29 WSOD happened very often (I would say in 50% of all cases). > Don't remember GSM status with 2.6.29 (works great with 2.6.28), used it > in the past mainly as PDA. > > Jens BTW. Why are you playing with kernels instead of using ditribution one? I understand playing with 2.6.31 RC kernels, but downgrading? SHR-unstable comes with latest andy-tracking. If something doesn't work in this kernel, then it has to be reported, debuged and fixed, instead of just switching back and being quiet about that! -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 16:32:29 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:32:29 +0200 Subject: opimd: unified api for sent/received In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/8/09, arne anka wrote: > before filing a bug report, i'd like to ask here ... > last weekend i patched zhone to enable opimd (only listing of messages so > far). while working with it i saw that incoming and outgoing messages have > different fiels (sender vs receiver, no timestamp for sent messages, ...), > which makes handling imo unnecessary complex. It's necessary, as opimd can store also other types of messages than SMSes, and it can have different Sender and Recipient field values in the same message. > is the missing timestamp for sent messages by purpose or caused by the > transition from zhone-sent to opimd? You just have to provide Timestamp field while storing message in opimd (org.freesmartphone.PIM.Messages.Add dbus method) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From jdowdster at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 16:50:26 2009 From: jdowdster at gmail.com (John Dowd) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:50:26 -0400 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909042123.56069.solar.george@googlemail.com> References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909042123.56069.solar.george@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200909081050.32680.jdowdster@gmail.com> On Friday 04 September 2009 16:23:51 George Brooke wrote: > usb0 should now be ethX just look in dmesg to see what number its taken. > > solar.george Respectfully, who cares what the interface is called on the Neo side, this does not reflect back to the device (in this case a laptop) at the other end of the usb cable. That device (the laptop) does not see any ethernet i/f because the Neo is not starting one. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/78042c36/attachment.pgp From jensseidel at users.sf.net Tue Sep 8 16:46:36 2009 From: jensseidel at users.sf.net (Jens Seidel) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:46:36 +0200 Subject: WSOD (Was: Re: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking) In-Reply-To: References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> <20090908090151.GA9011@merkur.sol.de> Message-ID: <20090908144633.GA10474@merkur.sol.de> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:29:19PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/8/09, Jens Seidel wrote: > > Funny, it's opposite for me. I used until yesterday 2.6.29 together with > > uboot but switched back to 2.6.28 and now the WSOD vanished. Great! > > > > With 2.6.29 WSOD happened very often (I would say in 50% of all cases). > > Don't remember GSM status with 2.6.29 (works great with 2.6.28), used it > > in the past mainly as PDA. > > BTW. Why are you playing with kernels instead of using ditribution > one? A good question and I don't know the proper answer. I use SHR but have also Debian installed. SHR is currently more stable and much fancier so I prefer it. I often update the system via opkg update and opkg upgrade which resulted in kernel 2.6.29-rc3. Why should I keep it if it is unstable? And a very stupid question: I know that 2.6.29-rc3 is installed in the file system (/boot) but is it used or the kernel in /dev/mtdblock3? I didn't found the answer in the SHR manual and wasted yesterday at least 3 hours because of it. I also checked the uboot config, booted via USB serial connection started printenv, ... That's not a easy way!!! I flashed finally directly into the "kernel" partition which seems to work. So opkg doesn't affect the running kernel ... I know that Debian provided a script to customize the uboot configuration and I know that the kernel in the filesystem is used and /dev/mtdblock3 as fallback (or in reverse order, don't remember). But SHR? Digging into the Wiki and mailinglist postings is still the most time consuming task and I'm always lost in it and not able to do any work with my phone! > I understand playing with 2.6.31 RC kernels, but downgrading? I prefer a WSOD free kernel, you not? > SHR-unstable comes with latest andy-tracking. If something doesn't > work in this kernel, then it has to be reported, debuged and fixed, > instead of just switching back and being quiet about that! The problem in 2.6.29 is already known, there is no need to report it so I tried to avoid it using 2.6.28 (which reports itself as 2.6.29 :-)). If the latest andy-tracking kernel is no longer affected why aren't both WSOD bug reports updated? I wasn't even aware until very recently that the original WSOD bug was fixed as the initial report is still open without activity since months. I now tried again at least ten minutes to find the SHR kernel download link but failed, it's not on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing#Flashing_the_Kernel, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual, wasn't able to find it via Google, What a mess! At least I don't remember seeing anything andy-tracking related (except the Wiki article about getting the source). Jens From solar.george at googlemail.com Tue Sep 8 17:00:52 2009 From: solar.george at googlemail.com (George Brooke) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:00:52 +0100 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909081050.32680.jdowdster@gmail.com> References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909042123.56069.solar.george@googlemail.com> <200909081050.32680.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909081600.58656.solar.george@googlemail.com> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:50:26 John Dowd wrote: > On Friday 04 September 2009 16:23:51 George Brooke wrote: > > usb0 should now be ethX just look in dmesg to see what number its taken. > > > > solar.george > > Respectfully, who cares what the interface is called on the Neo side, this > does not reflect back to the device (in this case a laptop) at the other > end of the usb cable. That device (the laptop) does not see any ethernet > i/f because the Neo is not starting one. > > Cheers!! I mean on the laptop side 1. Plug neo into laptop 2. run dmesg on laptop [ 9359.352059] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 [ 9359.566175] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices [ 9359.914928] eth2: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:70:8f [ 9359.915323] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether [ 9359.962215] udev: renamed network interface eth2 to eth5 3. look for lines like the above which tell you that my neo is at eth5 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/e741b104/attachment.pgp From jdowdster at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 17:11:17 2009 From: jdowdster at gmail.com (John Dowd) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:11:17 -0400 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909081600.58656.solar.george@googlemail.com> References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081050.32680.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081600.58656.solar.george@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200909081111.24552.jdowdster@gmail.com> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 11:00:52 George Brooke wrote: > I mean on the laptop side > 1. Plug neo into laptop > 2. run dmesg on laptop > [ 9359.352059] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > address 2 [ 9359.566175] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices > [ 9359.914928] eth2: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-2, CDC > Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:70:8f > [ 9359.915323] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether > [ 9359.962215] udev: renamed network interface eth2 to eth5 > 3. look for lines like the above which tell you that my neo is at eth5 Bingo, it works and you are correct, it's now on eth1. Good thing I put that "Respectfully" at the start of my reply or I might have to buy your beer for the rest of my life. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/72ec1828/attachment.pgp From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 17:18:15 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:18:15 +0200 Subject: WSOD (Was: Re: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking) In-Reply-To: <20090908144633.GA10474@merkur.sol.de> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> <20090908090151.GA9011@merkur.sol.de> <20090908144633.GA10474@merkur.sol.de> Message-ID: On 9/8/09, Jens Seidel wrote: > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:29:19PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> On 9/8/09, Jens Seidel wrote: >> > Funny, it's opposite for me. I used until yesterday 2.6.29 together with >> > uboot but switched back to 2.6.28 and now the WSOD vanished. Great! >> > >> > With 2.6.29 WSOD happened very often (I would say in 50% of all cases). >> > Don't remember GSM status with 2.6.29 (works great with 2.6.28), used it >> > in the past mainly as PDA. >> >> BTW. Why are you playing with kernels instead of using ditribution >> one? > > A good question and I don't know the proper answer. I use SHR but have also > Debian installed. SHR is currently more stable and much fancier so I prefer > it. I often update the system via opkg update and opkg upgrade which > resulted > in kernel 2.6.29-rc3. > > Why should I keep it if it is unstable? And a very stupid question: I know > that 2.6.29-rc3 is installed in the file system (/boot) but is it used or > the kernel in /dev/mtdblock3? I didn't found the answer in the SHR manual > and wasted yesterday at least 3 hours because of it. I also checked the > uboot config, booted via USB serial connection started printenv, ... > That's not a easy way!!! I flashed finally directly into the "kernel" > partition which seems to work. So opkg doesn't affect the running kernel ... > > I know that Debian provided a script to customize the uboot configuration > and I know that the kernel in the filesystem is used and /dev/mtdblock3 > as fallback (or in reverse order, don't remember). But SHR? > > Digging into the Wiki and mailinglist postings is still the most time > consuming task and I'm always lost in it and not able to do any work with > my phone! > >> I understand playing with 2.6.31 RC kernels, but downgrading? > > I prefer a WSOD free kernel, you not? > >> SHR-unstable comes with latest andy-tracking. If something doesn't >> work in this kernel, then it has to be reported, debuged and fixed, >> instead of just switching back and being quiet about that! > > The problem in 2.6.29 is already known, there is no need to report it > so I tried to avoid it using 2.6.28 (which reports itself as > 2.6.29 :-)). If the latest andy-tracking kernel is no longer affected why > aren't both WSOD bug reports updated? I wasn't even aware until very > recently that the original WSOD bug was fixed as the initial report is still > open without activity since months. > > I now tried again at least ten minutes to find the SHR kernel download link > but failed, it's not on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download, > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing#Flashing_the_Kernel, > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual, wasn't able to find it via > Google, What a mess! At least I don't remember seeing anything andy-tracking > related (except the Wiki article about getting the source). > > Jens Kernel is in images and in repositiories. After opkg upgrade at /boot/uImage-GTA02 you should have latest kernel (even if it wasn't flashed by opkg) which you should use to flash if you want to test it. That kernel is supposed to be quite stable and usable. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From seba.dos1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 17:21:45 2009 From: seba.dos1 at gmail.com (Sebastian Krzyszkowiak) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:21:45 +0200 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> Message-ID: On 9/8/09, William Kenworthy wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:43 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> On 9/7/09, William Kenworthy wrote: >> > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 17:20 +0530, Vikas Saurabh wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Quite often when I get a call, all I see is the locked screen. Now, >> >> what I would expect is to able to accept the call without actually >> >> unlocking the phone. >> >> Can we have another slider like control with slider thumb in between. >> >> Moving the slide to left accepts the call and moving it to the right >> >> rejects it. >> >> >> >> --Vikas >> >> >> >> PS: I had a look at the TODO list in git( >> >> http://github.com/slyon/today/blob/b279a6af85352de0ca9db4ac3c1f4f06e086ed8b/TODO) >> >> and this didn't appear there >> >> >> > >> > An observation - Ive lost a few calls (~5) now due to wsod on resume - >> > until this is fixed (and after so long, is it likely to ever be fixed?) >> >> WTF? WSOD still happening? What kernel do you use? o_O >> > > 2.6.28 - never been able to get GSM working on 2.6.29 so thats not an > option. > > WSOD happens when using Qi, not when using uboot. But uboot may need > multiple boot attempts before even 2.6.28 will talk to the gsm chipset, > whereas Qi is reliable - something is not getting initialised properly > somewhere. > > Yeah, I know I should be using 2.6.29, but I dont think thats the > problem, and I if I cant use it as a phone whats the point? > > BillK WTF? 2.6.29 is shipped by default in SHR, and it obviously should work. And the point is - to debug and fix it, as it's supposed to work and 2.6.28 is now deprecated :P Upgrade bootloader, kernel and rootfs. It definitely has to work. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos From tingox at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 17:35:47 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:35:47 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - QX - "Unable to connect to X server" In-Reply-To: <4AA579DD.3070306@apertum.it> References: <4AA579DD.3070306@apertum.it> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:23 PM, -= Apertum =- wrote: > > First time TangoGPS it's ok. Second time i get too the "Unable to > connect to X Server" message. > > Does anybodya have a hint on how to fix this? Or at least how to debug it? Does "QX" output a log somewhere? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/b7f9ed61/attachment.htm From solar.george at googlemail.com Tue Sep 8 18:24:41 2009 From: solar.george at googlemail.com (George Brooke) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:24:41 +0100 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909081111.24552.jdowdster@gmail.com> References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081600.58656.solar.george@googlemail.com> <200909081111.24552.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909081724.45569.solar.george@googlemail.com> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 16:11:17 John Dowd wrote: > On Tuesday 08 September 2009 11:00:52 George Brooke wrote: > > I mean on the laptop side > > 1. Plug neo into laptop > > 2. run dmesg on laptop > > [ 9359.352059] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > > address 2 [ 9359.566175] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices > > [ 9359.914928] eth2: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-2, CDC > > Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:70:8f > > [ 9359.915323] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether > > [ 9359.962215] udev: renamed network interface eth2 to eth5 > > 3. look for lines like the above which tell you that my neo is at eth5 > > Bingo, it works and you are correct, it's now on eth1. Good thing I put > that "Respectfully" at the start of my reply or I might have to buy your > beer for the rest of my life. > > Cheers!! No problem, glad it got sorted out. solar.george -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/1dc79e92/attachment.pgp From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 8 18:53:46 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:53:46 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - QX - "Unable to connect to X server" In-Reply-To: References: <4AA579DD.3070306@apertum.it> Message-ID: <1252428826.3692.13.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:23 PM, -= Apertum =- > wrote: > > First time TangoGPS it's ok. Second time i get too the "Unable > to > connect to X Server" message. > > > Does anybodya have a hint on how to fix this? Or at least how to debug > it? Yes, if it's reproducible i can probably fix it for next release. You can try to run X e.g. from qterminal and play with vt argument. E.g. X vt4 X vt3 When X starts from terminal it will probably run from QX again. But i need to investigate this issue more... > Does "QX" output a log somewhere? You can start Qtopia from command line to see all output: ssh root at 192.168.0.202 killall qpe source /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on qpe Regards Radek From tingox at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 19:28:37 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:28:37 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working? In-Reply-To: <1252088393.3683.2.camel@rp-skunk> References: <1252088393.3683.2.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: Hi, On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > > Otherwise command line works just fine: > > iwlist scan > This worked the first time, but not after that. Now it just says: neo:~# iwlist eth0 scan eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. Why does it do that? > iwconfig eth0 essid type_your_essid_here > udhcpc eth0 > In my case, I am using WPA / PSK. So I should use something like this: wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth0 udhcpc eth0 Is that correct? When I try this: wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth0 I get: ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: Input/output error ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Input/output error ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Input/output error Failed to initiate AP scan. ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Input/output error ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Input/output error Failed to initiate AP scan. Repeating forever. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/100e0d51/attachment.htm From openmoko at ginguppin.de Tue Sep 8 19:34:33 2009 From: openmoko at ginguppin.de (arne anka) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:34:33 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working? In-Reply-To: References: <1252088393.3683.2.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: > neo:~# iwlist eth0 scan > eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. > ... > wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth0 > > I get: > > ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: Input/output error > ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported > ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported > ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported > ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported > ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Input/output error > ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Input/output error > Failed to initiate AP scan. > ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Input/output error > ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Input/output error > Failed to initiate AP scan. > > Repeating forever. welcome to the club. looks pretty much like the well known wifi issue. according to paul fertser (?) it is caused by a patch, which has -- because of this issue -- recently been reverted. there where some mails regarding that and even the name of the kernel package to try. From tingox at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 19:47:34 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:47:34 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - QX - "Unable to connect to X server" In-Reply-To: <1252428826.3692.13.camel@rp-skunk> References: <4AA579DD.3070306@apertum.it> <1252428826.3692.13.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > X vt4 > I did this, and started QX again. But no buttons would work in QX, I had to use "short press on AUX" to get out of it. After that, the only things that woks in the UI are the "options" button (and if I select Help, the "close" button). No other buttons in the main UI works > X vt3 > > Will this be better? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/15dea194/attachment.htm From tingox at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 20:39:37 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 20:39:37 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - QX - "Unable to connect to X server" In-Reply-To: <1252428826.3692.13.camel@rp-skunk> References: <4AA579DD.3070306@apertum.it> <1252428826.3692.13.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: Hei, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > You can start Qtopia from command line to see all output: > > ssh root at 192.168.0.202 > killall qpe > source /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env > echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on > echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on > qpe > Ok, I am now trying this. fter initail startup (rge above) this is the output: neo:~# source /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env neo:/root# echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on neo:/root# echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on neo:/root# qpe NeoKbdDriverPlugin:create() Before call NeoKbdHandler() NeoBattery::NeoBattery 56484 0 0 Unable to register with BlueZ service manager... Unable to register with BlueZ service manager... Unable to register with BlueZ service manager... Unable to register with BlueZ service manager... Unable to register with BlueZ service manager... Unable to register with BlueZ service manager... First startup of QX and TsngoGPS: (II) verbosity set to 5 Using GLAMO 3362 card (II) Screen: 16/16 depth/bpp (II) vram size:4194304, onscreen vram size:614400, offscreen vram size:3579904 (II) initialising offscreen pixmaps error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 637 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list! Could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list! FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. (II) verbosity set to 5 Using GLAMO 3362 card (II) Screen: 16/16 depth/bpp (II) vram size:4194304, onscreen vram size:614400, offscreen vram size:3579904 (II) initialising offscreen pixmaps error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 637 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list! Could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list! REPOLIST == NULL *** on_drawingarea1_configure_event(): pixmap created *** fill_tiles_pixel(): xyz 890 515 3 ---repo dir: /home/root/Maps/OSM ---i,j,x,y,offsetx,y: 3,2 -- 890,515 -- -122,-3 * load tile() IMG: /home/root/Maps/OSM/3/3/2.png *** Not downloading tile PIXBUF: error loading png ### tile /home/root/Maps/OSM/3/3/2 not found in hash, trying DL download_tile(): http://tile.openstreetmap.org/3/3/2.png|/home/root/Maps/OSM/3/3/2.png|/home/root/Maps/OSM/3/3/###################### # of threads: 1 I then press AUX briefly and get back in QX. I select the "Stop TnagGPS button, and get this output: *** on_drawingarea1_button_release_event(): FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. (II) verbosity set to 5 Using GLAMO 3362 card (II) Screen: 16/16 depth/bpp (II) vram size:4194304, onscreen vram size:614400, offscreen vram size:3579904 (II) initialising offscreen pixmaps error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 637 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list! Could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list! FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. Can't deallocate console 7 errno 16 Ok, let's try to start TangoGPS again, without leaving QX: Yes - that worked. Now lets quit both TnagoGPS and QX. Then I start QX again: Strange - this time it works. I can even start TangoGPS. I have tried this many times now, and I can reliably start QX and TangGPS when qpe run from a shell, instead of the "normal" way (startup script or whatever). Could it be caused by the different way qpe is being started? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Build a vcard from your contacts source, send it to your Documents folder and play with it. -Tonym Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Hello, > Is there a way to do mass import of contacts in QtMoko? > Say from a file or something? > > -- > Regards, > Torfinn Ingolfsen > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From tingox at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 22:00:03 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:00:03 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - screen "undims" every minute or so? Message-ID: Hi, When my FreeRunner is connected via usb to my laptop, the screen "un-dims" ever minute or so. Screen dim is set to default (20 seconds?), ut every minute the screen goes back to "un-dimmed" again, without me doing any activity on the FreeRunner. Why does it do that? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/509d7e2c/attachment.htm From tingox at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 22:04:22 2009 From: tingox at gmail.com (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:04:22 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - mass import of contacts? In-Reply-To: <4AA6A694.7040507@rpi.edu> References: <4AA6A694.7040507@rpi.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Tony McKeehan wrote: > vcards are the most common way of doing something like that and I'm > pretty sure I've used vcards with QTmoko before. Build a vcard from your > contacts source, send it to your Documents folder and play with it. > Thanks, I'll try that. -- mvh Torfinn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/656122ed/attachment.htm From ssj2micvm at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 22:04:38 2009 From: ssj2micvm at gmail.com (Michele Brocco) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:04:38 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - mass import of contacts? In-Reply-To: <4AA6A694.7040507@rpi.edu> References: <4AA6A694.7040507@rpi.edu> Message-ID: as far as I remember u can export in vcard ur addressbook and then run the qt addressbook (executable addressbook) with the parameter yourfile.vcf as written in: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts#Import_.28and_export.3F.29_on_Om_2008.8_and_Qtopia this should work under qtmoko as well(?) On 9/8/09, Tony McKeehan wrote: > vcards are the most common way of doing something like that and I'm > pretty sure I've used vcards with QTmoko before. Build a vcard from your > contacts source, send it to your Documents folder and play with it. > > -Tonym > > > Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >> Hello, >> Is there a way to do mass import of contacts in QtMoko? >> Say from a file or something? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Torfinn Ingolfsen >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community at lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From pike-openmoko at kw.nl Tue Sep 8 22:37:57 2009 From: pike-openmoko at kw.nl (pike) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:37:57 +0200 Subject: nEo theme issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AA6C0A5.90806@kw.nl> Hello Bernd Pr?nster wrote: > didnt really read the ml for about 1 month now, but there are somi > issues with teh neo theme [...] > i just look > into topics i find interesting so either post issues here or mail me > directly. OK then, here I go - I installed the (brilliant) neo theme. One of the issues I had with it was that - I think - some windows use a black font on a black background - I'm not sure, all I see is black :-) This was so annoying that I tried to uninstall it using the directions here [1], but I never got it really removed; still lots of black screens with green hairlines. More annoying, some windows still show black text on a black background, amongst which the 'read sms' screen and a screen called 'notification' of which I'm not sure what spawns it - I cant read it :-) I'm probably just missing one thing, like, gtk config. any idea ? [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Settings:_Others thanks, *-pike From jdowdster at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 22:40:59 2009 From: jdowdster at gmail.com (John Dowd) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:40:59 -0400 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909081724.45569.solar.george@googlemail.com> References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081111.24552.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081724.45569.solar.george@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200909081641.09765.jdowdster@gmail.com> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 12:24:41 George Brooke wrote: > No problem, glad it got sorted out. > > solar.george I can now manually configure the wireless interface but I need to come up automatically during boot and start the dhcp client. I can see that the kernel does boot and somewhere during init the interface is brought up. However, somewhere later during the init the wireless interface is being shutdown. If I go into the Setup application I can see that the wireless option is turned off. If I turn it back on it then the interface does come up. However, it is not persistent across boots. How do I turn off the current system setting of turning off the wireless interface? I have a "wlan" script in the "/etc/init.d" directory and once I manually bring up the wireless interface I can run it and it does configure the interface properly. Also, I'm running into the same problem with the busybox udhcpc application that I've seen before. It does not see the DCHPOFFER from the AP. It ignores it and continues to issue the DCHPDISCOVER. There was a application dhclient that ran on the OM2009 distro. Is there anything available here on the unstable SHR? One person mentioned that the problem was that the Signal level (which is -147dBm) is way too low and should be at least -90dBm. Where would I change this? I have some control over the AP if that is where the change needs to be. And on more piece of information that I need.... I can bring up the shell on the Neo but the keyboard that pops up does not have an obvious way to insert (or type) a carriage return. There has to be a way? Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/43556b9c/attachment.pgp From tanuva at googlemail.com Tue Sep 8 22:48:12 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:48:12 +0200 Subject: nEo theme issues In-Reply-To: <4AA6C0A5.90806@kw.nl> References: <4AA6C0A5.90806@kw.nl> Message-ID: <1252442892.10240.0.camel@d-wwow> I also had this with AGTL - it's not the theme's, but the app coder's fault who sets text color manually, at least as far as I know. Try contacting the one who wrote the apps you had problems with, D. Fett could solve mine. :) -- Marcel Am Dienstag, den 08.09.2009, 22:37 +0200 schrieb pike: > Hello > > Bernd Pr?nster wrote: > > didnt really read the ml for about 1 month now, but there are somi > > issues with teh neo theme > [...] > > i just look > > into topics i find interesting so either post issues here or mail me > > directly. > > OK then, here I go - > > I installed the (brilliant) neo theme. One of the > issues I had with it was that - I think - some windows > use a black font on a black background - I'm not sure, > all I see is black :-) > > This was so annoying that I tried to uninstall it using the > directions here [1], but I never got it really removed; > still lots of black screens with green hairlines. More annoying, > some windows still show black text on a black background, > amongst which the 'read sms' screen and a screen called > 'notification' of which I'm not sure what spawns it > - I cant read it :-) > > I'm probably just missing one thing, like, gtk config. > any idea ? > > [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Settings:_Others > > thanks, > *-pike > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 8 22:58:23 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:58:23 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - QX - "Unable to connect to X server" In-Reply-To: References: <4AA579DD.3070306@apertum.it> <1252428826.3692.13.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: <1252443503.8744.6.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Strange - this time it works. I can even start TangoGPS. > I have tried this many times now, and I can reliably start QX and > TangGPS when qpe run from a shell, instead of the "normal" way > (startup script or whatever). > > Could it be caused by the different way qpe is being started? Yes, i can be. The problem is somewhere in virtual terminal magic. X needs VT to be started and Qtopia needs it too. So i am using the qx_helper to activate /dev/tty7 before Qtopia starts and then X server can be started from Qtopia. This probably needs to be done more correctly. Regards Radek From pike-openmoko at kw.nl Tue Sep 8 23:05:42 2009 From: pike-openmoko at kw.nl (pike) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:05:42 +0200 Subject: nEo theme issues In-Reply-To: <1252442892.10240.0.camel@d-wwow> References: <4AA6C0A5.90806@kw.nl> <1252442892.10240.0.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <4AA6C726.40702@kw.nl> Hi > I also had this with AGTL - it's not the theme's, but the app coder's > fault who sets text color manually yes, undoubtably. i could confirm that if I could uninstall the neo theme to check if there is really black text around. but I'm not sure. just for my information, what is the 'default' background color in the 'sms/read' window in the 'messages' application on SHR ? and does anyone know where that is set (just checked- its not GTK). thanks, *-pike From psonek2 at seznam.cz Tue Sep 8 23:33:17 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:33:17 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - screen "undims" every minute or so? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252445598.8744.8.camel@rp-skunk> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Hi, > When my FreeRunner is connected via usb to my laptop, the screen > "un-dims" ever minute or so. > Screen dim is set to default (20 seconds?), ut every minute the screen > goes back to "un-dimmed" again, without me doing any activity on the > FreeRunner. > Why does it do that? No idea :) Probably some event (battery charging?). I just commited fix that disables dimming when plugged in. You can do this manually from Power settings. Regards Radek From solar.george at googlemail.com Wed Sep 9 00:03:32 2009 From: solar.george at googlemail.com (George Brooke) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:03:32 +0100 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909081641.09765.jdowdster@gmail.com> References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081724.45569.solar.george@googlemail.com> <200909081641.09765.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909082303.35901.solar.george@googlemail.com> On Tuesday 08 September 2009 21:40:59 John Dowd wrote: > And on more piece of information that I need.... > I can bring up the shell on the Neo but the keyboard that pops up does not > have an obvious way to insert (or type) a carriage return. There has to be > a way? drag down on the kbd, up to change layouts left->right for space right->left for backspace you might be better off with the terminal layout (should be installed by default, just press on the up arrow on the right and select terminal) solar.george -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090908/b075e860/attachment.pgp From billk at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 9 02:08:47 2009 From: billk at iinet.net.au (William Kenworthy) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:08:47 +0800 Subject: [SHR-Today] Accept call without unlocking In-Reply-To: References: <1cc7690909070450h55a57729m782669e1cd398c12@mail.gmail.com> <1252327477.3869.81.camel@rattus> <1252371367.3869.112.camel@rattus> <20090908090151.GA9011@merkur.sol.de> Message-ID: <1252454927.3869.178.camel@rattus> The reason for downgrading is simple - 2.6.29 doesnt work for gsm - the error is similar to the one reported for GPS (rxerr) a while back. I just flashed uboot back over qi - no wsod yet, tough need a few more resumes to be sure. Paul F. has worked with me on on it at one point - his take is I have a faulty GSM chip - my thoughts are that it works with certain combinations, not others which means to me something is not being handled correctly. There were a lot of changes in handling serial ports between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 - I am slowly going over them in order to see whats changed in regard to getting GSM operating. BillK On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 16:29 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/8/09, Jens Seidel wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:56:07AM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > >> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:43 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > >> > WTF? WSOD still happening? What kernel do you use? o_O > >> > >> 2.6.28 - never been able to get GSM working on 2.6.29 so thats not an > >> option. > >> > >> WSOD happens when using Qi, not when using uboot. But uboot may need > >> multiple boot attempts before even 2.6.28 will talk to the gsm chipset, > >> whereas Qi is reliable - something is not getting initialised properly > >> somewhere. > > > > Funny, it's opposite for me. I used until yesterday 2.6.29 together with > > uboot but switched back to 2.6.28 and now the WSOD vanished. Great! > > > > With 2.6.29 WSOD happened very often (I would say in 50% of all cases). > > Don't remember GSM status with 2.6.29 (works great with 2.6.28), used it > > in the past mainly as PDA. > > > > Jens > > BTW. Why are you playing with kernels instead of using ditribution > one? I understand playing with 2.6.31 RC kernels, but downgrading? > SHR-unstable comes with latest andy-tracking. If something doesn't > work in this kernel, then it has to be reported, debuged and fixed, > instead of just switching back and being quiet about that! > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth! From raster at rasterman.com Wed Sep 9 02:32:59 2009 From: raster at rasterman.com (Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:32:59 +1000 Subject: [elementary] How to get evas object out of elementary.Window In-Reply-To: References: <1251079674179-3501036.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20090909103259.52e20897.raster@rasterman.com> On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:25:34 +0200 Laszlo KREKACS said: correct. the c code works. to be honest - i work on the c. with the c. apps too. i never look at the python so i have no idea what it is doing. but you did the 100% right thing. check the c code and see what it's doing api/behavior-wise. this is how it "should be". to be totally honest... it's just as easy to use elm from as from python, so poking around the c api is possible and easy. > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Laszlo > KREKACS wrote: > > Unfortunately my C knowledge are almost nonexistant, so > > maybe it will take some weeks to get there, writing a simple > > demonstration application in C. > > As others pointed out, the preferred way of doing C development is > installing elementary on > the desktop machine and develop on it (and crosscompile for the neo). > > So I installed elementary, and ran the test application from here: > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary > > Now, I modified the source, to get the evas canvas (evass), and print > some info about > it, and add other evas object to it, so not some elementary widget, > but pure evas object. > > In C, everything works as expected, evas_object_evas_get does return > with a valid > evas canvas object. And I can directly add other objects to it. > In python this does not work. > > For convenience, I post[1] my demonstration code (many thanks to > devilhorns from #e). > > What you are supposed to see, is a blue line(evas.Line) added over the > Hello world! > elementary label widget. > > The next exercise would be to fix the python bindings. But I see these > pyx, pxi, pxd files > the first time in my life.... > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/BINDINGS/python/python-elementary/include/elementary > > Best regards, > Laszlo > > [1]: > #include > #include > > static void > win_del(void *data, Evas_Object *obj, void *event_info) > { > elm_exit(); > } > > EAPI int > elm_main(int argc, char **argv) > { > Evas_Object *win, *bg, *lb, *lin; > Evas *evass; > int w = 0, h = 0; > char buf[4096]; > > win = elm_win_add(NULL, "hello", ELM_WIN_BASIC); > elm_win_title_set(win, "Hello"); > evas_object_smart_callback_add(win, "delete-request", win_del, NULL); > > evass = evas_object_evas_get(win); > > evas_output_size_get(evass, &w, &h); > printf("Width: %d\tHeight: %d\n", w, h); > //snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "lol: %d", evas_output_size_get > (evass->changed); bg = elm_bg_add(win); > evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(bg, 1.0, 1.0); > elm_win_resize_object_add(win, bg); > evas_object_show(bg); > > lb = elm_label_add(win); > elm_label_label_set(lb, "Hello World!"); > evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(lb, 1.0, 1.0); > elm_win_resize_object_add(win, lb); > > lin = evas_object_line_add(evass); > evas_object_line_xy_set(lin,10, 10 , 20, 30); > evas_object_layer_set(lin, 55); > // evas_object_clip_set(ob, panel_clip); > evas_object_color_set(lin, 0, 0, 255, 200); > evas_object_show(lin); > > > > > evas_object_show(lb); > > evas_object_show(win); > > evas_output_size_get(evass, &w, &h); > printf("Width2: %d\tHeight2: %d\n", w, h); > elm_run(); > evas_output_size_get(evass, &w, &h); > printf("Width3: %d\tHeight3: %d\n", w, h); > elm_shutdown(); > return 0; > } > ELM_MAIN() > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) raster at rasterman.com From denis.johnson at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 05:02:47 2009 From: denis.johnson at gmail.com (Denis Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:02:47 +1000 Subject: [elementary] How to get evas object out of elementary.Window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20607da10909082002q21b03ae9n3cfc3a2461a29a59@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > And please paste the result here. My results via ssh session: python Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Sep 7 2009, 00:26:26) [GCC 4.1.2] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import elementary >>> elementary.init() >>> win = elementary.Window("", elementary.ELM_WIN_BASIC) >>> win_evas = win.evas_get() >>> type(win_evas) >>> type(win.evas) >>> cheers Denis From robin.paulson at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 05:57:40 2009 From: robin.paulson at gmail.com (Robin Paulson) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:57:40 +1200 Subject: nEo theme issues In-Reply-To: <4AA6C0A5.90806@kw.nl> References: <4AA6C0A5.90806@kw.nl> Message-ID: <2f3aa2770909082057p47e1b7eds2cf301de472d149c@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/9 pike : > OK then, here I go - > > I installed the (brilliant) neo theme. One of the > issues I had with it was that - I think - some windows > use a black font on a black background - I'm not sure, > all I see is black :-) > > This was so annoying that I tried to uninstall it using the > directions here [1], but I never got it really removed; > still lots of black screens with green hairlines. More annoying, > some windows still show black text on a black background, > amongst which the 'read sms' screen and a screen called > 'notification' of which I'm not sure what spawns it > - I cant read it :-) yeah, i had this problem following the first opkg upgrade after i installed the neo theme. it sounds like you've not got the one of the theme packages installed - there's 6 of them try this, it worked for me: opkg -force-overwrite install \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/elementary-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/e-wm-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/etk-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/gtk-theme-neo_0.1_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/gpe-theme-neo_0.1_armv4t.ipk From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 06:20:05 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 06:20:05 +0200 Subject: [elementary] How to get evas object out of elementary.Window In-Reply-To: <20607da10909082002q21b03ae9n3cfc3a2461a29a59@mail.gmail.com> References: <20607da10909082002q21b03ae9n3cfc3a2461a29a59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Denis Johnson wrote: >>>> win = elementary.Window("", elementary.ELM_WIN_BASIC) >>>> win_evas = win.evas_get() >>>> type(win_evas) > >>>> type(win.evas) > FYI it is fixed in enlightenment svn. Morphis fixed for me. Thanks for him! It just needs repackaging in SHR. Best regards, Khiraly From psonek2 at seznam.cz Wed Sep 9 07:16:28 2009 From: psonek2 at seznam.cz (Radek Polak) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:16:28 +0200 Subject: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working? In-Reply-To: References: <1252088393.3683.2.camel@rp-skunk> Message-ID: <1252473388.8744.15.camel@rp-skunk> arne anka wrote: > welcome to the club. > looks pretty much like the well known wifi issue. > according to paul fertser (?) it is caused by a patch, which has -- > because of this issue -- recently been reverted. > there where some mails regarding that and even the name of the kernel > package to try. Thanks for tip! I compiled andy-tracking and wifi now works perfectly, i was able to connect every time and also scaning now works reliably. So another bug fixed fixed for next release :) Thanks to Paul and all kernel people who made this working. Radek From fercerpav at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 07:39:54 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:39:54 +0400 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909081641.09765.jdowdster@gmail.com> (John Dowd's message of "Tue\, 8 Sep 2009 16\:40\:59 -0400") References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081111.24552.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081724.45569.solar.george@googlemail.com> <200909081641.09765.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: John Dowd writes: > I can now manually configure the wireless interface but I need to come up > automatically during boot and start the dhcp client. I can see that the kernel > does boot and somewhere during init the interface is brought up. However, > somewhere later during the init the wireless interface is being > shutdown. You certainly want to consult http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources wikipage; it's frameworkd syncing resources on startup and thus turning everything off. > If I go into the Setup application I can see that the wireless > option is turned off. If I turn it back on it then the interface > does come up. However, it is not persistent across boots. How do I > turn off the current system setting of turning off the wireless > interface? I have a "wlan" script in the "/etc/init.d" directory and > once I manually bring up the wireless interface I can run it and it > does configure the interface properly. Start your script after frameworkd and use fsoraw accordingly. > Also, I'm running into the same problem with the busybox udhcpc application > that I've seen before. It does not see the DCHPOFFER from the AP. It ignores > it and continues to issue the DCHPDISCOVER. There was a application dhclient > that ran on the OM2009 distro. Is there anything available here on the > unstable SHR? If dhclient is not in the feeds, i'm sure one of SHR folks (dos1, you ;) ) can add it. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From ron at tallent.ws Wed Sep 9 08:02:17 2009 From: ron at tallent.ws (inlovewithshr) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 01:02:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Shr-User] Please add QT to feeds, was: libQTxml.so.4 In-Reply-To: <359c5480907131704y23334697q1189f368751890df@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480907131548y67db14bfla9572f272c8db550@mail.gmail.com> <359c5480907131704y23334697q1189f368751890df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252476137047-3608557.post@n2.nabble.com> Nicola Mfb wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Chris Syntichakis wrote: >> Btw, >> >> Even we will add these libraries we need the qtconfig application, the >> fonts of the keepassx (on SHR) are very big and they can be changed >> only with the qtconfig (unless there is a configuration file that we >> can change manually) >> >> I tried to install that qtconfig, but there are a lot of dependencies >> missing. > > The configuration file is $HOME/.config/Trolltech.conf, lowering fonts > it sets the following lines: > > [Qt] > font="Sans Serif,7,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0" > > Try editing it manually, or install qt4-common package without deps, > or if you trust my feeds add > src/gz noko-testing-armv4t > http://noko.sourceforge.net/testing/om2009/armv4t to your opkg > configuration and take the entire qt metapackage with opkg install > qt4-x11-free, it should work with SHR too and should not break your > system or require missing dependencies as is built on the fso > milestone5.5 branch. > You'll find a couple of "foreign" applications too, but I suggest to > ignore them as they are highly unstable and may burn your freerunner > :) > > However the best way to change look of qt4 applications is using CSS, > it's easy and powerfull, and should work with *every* qt application > that does not use deeply hardcoded gui values. > I'll take a look at keypassx to see if its look is easy adaptable! > > Regards > > Nicola > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > Thanks for fixing that up for us Nicola. Having Keepass on a Freerunner will be totally awesome. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. It installed properly and it does indeed load as you said above, but it doesn't handle new windows. So if you mistype your password, the error box gets thrown into the background and essentially locks up the app so you have to use the kill command on it. Opening up any entry does the same thing. Not useful as an app if you can't open your entries. Don't know if I'm the only one with this problem or if there's an easy fix, but I sure would like to have this working and see it added to the SHR feeds even. BTW, I'm using a fresh install of the latest SHR build on a gta02. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Please-add-QT-to-feeds-was-Shr-User-libQTxml-so-4-tp3255151p3608557.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kazer at altern.org Wed Sep 9 10:48:53 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 03:48:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252407449993-3602496.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252078027101-3580667.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> <27993.82.127.37.100.1252404231.squirrel@www.altern.org> <1252406716566-3602438.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252407449993-3602496.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252486133313-3609294.post@n2.nabble.com> I'm having issues with the latest updates of SHR, so since yesterday i run a freshly flashed image from 0808 without upgrades. In that case, the launcher binary you posted earlier gives : Updating SMS data.. process 1682: type array 97 not a basic type D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace Aborted Is it because of an outdated framework? c_c wrote: > > Hi, > Also, you can try auto-connecting your bt headset post resume by > checking the autoconnect Headset cb in Preferences. Set the bt headset > address - but use _ instead of :. > ie Address 11:22:33 becomes 11_22_33. > Press the set button to set the address. > Let me know if it works. > Thanks. > I'll try as soon as i can get launcher to start :) Is it to be able to use the headset in phone calls? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3609294.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From tanuva at googlemail.com Wed Sep 9 10:55:59 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:55:59 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli working now Message-ID: <1252486559.3344.13.camel@d-wwow> G'morning, I just upgraded paroli and noticed the package is fixed (-> contains tichy) and working now. Thanks to whoever did that! :) -- Marcel From rakshat at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 11:28:43 2009 From: rakshat at gmail.com (rakshat hooja) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:58:43 +0530 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli working now In-Reply-To: <1252486559.3344.13.camel@d-wwow> References: <1252486559.3344.13.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: <69a2e4550909090228s77d8e698r233491be184a683d@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Marcel wrote: > G'morning, > > I just upgraded paroli and noticed the package is fixed (-> contains > tichy) and working now. Thanks to whoever did that! :) > > -- > Marcel > > > So i basically need to do opkg install paroli to get a working paroli on my SHR-U or do I need to disable some things too? Rakshat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090909/0658cd8c/attachment.htm From tanuva at googlemail.com Wed Sep 9 11:41:30 2009 From: tanuva at googlemail.com (Marcel) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:41:30 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli working now In-Reply-To: <69a2e4550909090228s77d8e698r233491be184a683d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1252486559.3344.13.camel@d-wwow> <69a2e4550909090228s77d8e698r233491be184a683d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252489290.3344.21.camel@d-wwow> Am Mittwoch, den 09.09.2009, 14:58 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja: > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Marcel wrote: > G'morning, > > I just upgraded paroli and noticed the package is fixed (-> > contains > tichy) and working now. Thanks to whoever did that! :) > > -- > Marcel > > > > So i basically need to do > > opkg install paroli > > > to get a working paroli on my SHR-U or do I need to disable some > things too? Paroli is split into several packages, I'm not sure which are absolutely nessecary, just installed all of them. :D Then you would need to disable the SHR-specific telephony apps which I haven't gotten round to because I need it to work today and cannot fiddle with it. There are instructions on the wiki though. -- Marcel From risto at kurppa.fi Wed Sep 9 11:48:19 2009 From: risto at kurppa.fi (Risto H. Kurppa) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:48:19 +0300 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli working now In-Reply-To: <1252489290.3344.21.camel@d-wwow> References: <1252486559.3344.13.camel@d-wwow> <69a2e4550909090228s77d8e698r233491be184a683d@mail.gmail.com> <1252489290.3344.21.camel@d-wwow> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Marcel wrote: > Paroli is split into several packages, I'm not sure which are absolutely > nessecary, just installed all of them. :D Then you would need to disable > the SHR-specific telephony apps which I haven't gotten round to because > I need it to work today and cannot fiddle with it. There are > instructions on the wiki though. Sounds awesome! Check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli#Paroli_on_SHR_unstable and please update if needed! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 12:50:09 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:50:09 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli working now In-Reply-To: <69a2e4550909090228s77d8e698r233491be184a683d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1252486559.3344.13.camel@d-wwow> <69a2e4550909090228s77d8e698r233491be184a683d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > to get a working paroli on my SHR-U or do I need to disable some things too? When the package will be upgraded more, there will be only one package (I hope). IF you have a calculator app, then it is already the newest package. Angus is working on paroli packaging, however he is really busy these days, so there are some delays of the package update. If you want to try out the newest thing you can always check out the git version, and copy the folder as is to the phone, and cd into the scripts/ dir and run: ./paroli -e fso ((you need to build the gui, which is ./build.sh in the scripts dir. You have to installed edje-utils for it)) As far as shr integration, paroli works pretty good, most urgent things was already fixed. If you want to disable shr telephony app, you should disable ophonekitd from starting. (ophonekitd is not part of frameworkd!, just name coincidance) To disable it, you want to comment all lines in: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ophonekitd After you need to start paroli manually after each boot. You can also create a similar file to 80ophonekitd. I use it since 2 days now, without any serious problem. Although the automatic suspend is broken. I need to suspend it manually each time. (it seems ophonekitd provided this feature). You can find out how to configure oeventsd to do it. In om2009, I always suspended via the power button, as it was not reliable there either. So to restoring it, you want to disable e popup window (suspend, shutdown, etc). To do this, go into wrench->Input ->key bindings And delete all the two keybindigs (power button, aux button). Then copy&paste these rules to rules.yaml: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/138541/ Then restart frameworkd to take effect. Im glad there are interested people in paroli, and got their hand dirty to try it out! Best regards, Laszlo From laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 13:18:35 2009 From: laszlo.krekacs.list at gmail.com (Laszlo KREKACS) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:18:35 +0200 Subject: [SHR-U] Paroli working now In-Reply-To: References: <1252486559.3344.13.camel@d-wwow> <69a2e4550909090228s77d8e698r233491be184a683d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: FYI, paroli can be also run on the desktop. Just start: cd scripts ./paroli -e fallback So it does not want to reach freesmartphone nor want to use dbus. You only need python-elementary installed. packages.enlightenment.org is the right place to gather all required packages. (I got ubuntu packages there) Laszlo From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 13:19:18 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:19:18 +0200 Subject: [Shr-User] Please add QT to feeds, was: libQTxml.so.4 In-Reply-To: <1252476137047-3608557.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <359c5480907131548y67db14bfla9572f272c8db550@mail.gmail.com> <359c5480907131704y23334697q1189f368751890df@mail.gmail.com> <1252476137047-3608557.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <359c5480909090419u4046ea94gcfee7d14673afe4f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:02 AM, inlovewithshr wrote: [...] > Thanks for fixing that up for us Nicola. Having Keepass on a Freerunner will > be totally awesome. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. It installed > properly and it does indeed load as you said above, but it doesn't handle > new windows. So if you mistype your password, the error box gets thrown into > the background and essentially locks up the app so you have to use the kill > command on it. Opening up any entry does the same thing. Not useful as an > app if you can't open your entries. Don't know if I'm the only one with this > problem or if there's an easy fix, but I sure would like to have this > working and see it added to the SHR feeds even. > > BTW, I'm using a fresh install of the latest SHR build on a gta02. ASAP I'll investigate a bit, in the mean time may you tray to use it at 640x480 (rotated display) and report please? Nicola From ron at tallent.ws Wed Sep 9 13:26:19 2009 From: ron at tallent.ws (Ronald Tallent) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:26:19 -0600 Subject: [Shr-User] Please add QT to feeds, was: libQTxml.so.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1252495579.12636.192.camel@Bender> On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 06:20 -0500, Nicola Mfb (via Nabble) wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:02 AM, inlovewithshr<[hidden email]> wrote: > [...] > > > Thanks for fixing that up for us Nicola. Having Keepass on a > Freerunner will > > be totally awesome. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. It > installed > > properly and it does indeed load as you said above, but it doesn't > handle > > new windows. So if you mistype your password, the error box gets > thrown into > > the background and essentially locks up the app so you have to use > the kill > > command on it. Opening up any entry does the same thing. Not useful > as an > > app if you can't open your entries. Don't know if I'm the only one > with this > > problem or if there's an easy fix, but I sure would like to have > this > > working and see it added to the SHR feeds even. > > > > BTW, I'm using a fresh install of the latest SHR build on a gta02. > ASAP I'll investigate a bit, in the mean time may you tray to use it > at 640x480 (rotated display) and report please? > > Nicola > Already did that Nicola... same result: all new Keepass windows appear behind the main app and do not show up in the "task-switcher." If there's anything else you'd like me to try I'm happy to do any testing that might help get KeepassX to work. Ron From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 9 13:36:52 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 06:36:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252486133313-3609294.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252081821129-3581056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> <27993.82.127.37.100.1252404231.squirrel@www.altern.org> <1252406716566-3602438.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252407449993-3602496.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252486133313-3609294.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252496212719-3610215.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, KaZeR wrote: > > Is it because of an outdated framework? > Yup, you'll need the latest SHR updates. WHat issues are you having - things seem to be working fine for me. KaZeR wrote: > > Is it to be able to use the headset in phone calls? > Yes. (kind of) auto reconnect of bt headset on resume. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3610215.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com Wed Sep 9 14:21:15 2009 From: nielsheyvaert at hotmail.com (Niels Heyvaert) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:21:15 +0000 Subject: [SHR-U] - Refusing to suspend Message-ID: Hi, For some reason the phone started refusing to suspend (vanilla SHR-U 08/08/2009). I tried a few times with the same result. The messages of suspending is displayed but then the enlightenment windows disappear and the phone just continues working in active mode. It did not have any issue with this before and nothing was changed to the settings. I did notice that the battery was running low... It's the only thing I can think of which is different from the other successful suspends. After a restart the phone suspends again. Before rebooting, I could see the following in dmesg: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) pm_op(): platform_pm_suspend+0x0/0x64 returns -16 PM: Device neo1973-pm-gsm.o failed to suspend: error -16 PM: Some devices failed to suspend Restarting tasks ... done. Any ideas? Niels. _________________________________________________________________ Je hele online leven op ??n stek met Windows Live http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/default.aspx From mickey at vanille-media.de Wed Sep 9 14:55:53 2009 From: mickey at vanille-media.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:55:53 +0200 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: <4AA7904B.4080205@kernelconcepts.de> References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> <4AA7904B.4080205@kernelconcepts.de> Message-ID: <200909091455.53662.mickey@vanille-media.de> On Wednesday 09 September 2009 13:23:55 Nils Faerber wrote: > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schrieb: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to > > be informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first > > take is at > > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesm > >artphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD > > > > Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. > > Valid substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown". > > > > Comments? > > Sind it will for sure be supposed to become an general interface I would > suggest not to use names which can be confusing (if landscape is the > native orientation it becomes messy) but rather use degrees, i.e. > "45", "90", "180", "270" > > Which represent the number of degrees turned from native device > orientation. Hmm, good point. Let me think about this. :M: From openmoko at rcie.de Wed Sep 9 14:56:53 2009 From: openmoko at rcie.de (Marc Bantle) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:56:53 +0200 Subject: Evopedia 0.2.2 In-Reply-To: <4A9AF2EE.6050505@reitwiessner.de> References: <4A9AF2EE.6050505@reitwiessner.de> Message-ID: <4AA7A615.8000803@rcie.de> Hi, after I got myself a bigger SD-card, I was able to give evopedia a try and I'm quite impressed. Christian Reitwie?ner schrieb: > Evopedia version 0.2.2 has been released. The major new feature is an > interactive map of articles. Quite an interesting view of wikipedia on a map. I was a bit surprised to find Brasilien (Brasil) right next to river Neckar ... with evopedia the explanation was only one click away: [1] :-) > Images for this map are automatically taken > from downloaded map tiles of tangoGPS or from > Openstreetmap.org if these > cannot be found (and you are online). Nice idea, to reuse the tiles from tangogps. I have collected quite a few of them by now in different tango gps map repo (mapnik, cycle). Unfortunately evopedia doesn't honor, when I switched to another, even after a reboot. I couldn't find a way to make the map move to my current gps position even though I saw some code to read it via pygps (which is installed). Is there a link somewhere to center map around current position as in tangogps or should the map automatically follow? Cheers, Marc [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasilien_(Scheinanlage) (A fake train station of the nazis, to attract allied bombers in world war 2. It's code name was Brasil.) From kazer at altern.org Wed Sep 9 15:01:32 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 08:01:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wrong behavior of Ctrl+C Message-ID: <1252501292376-3610750.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi. You might have noticed that when you press ctr+c in a ssh term, the process forks instead of breaking. Why that? Is there a possible fix? Thanks in advance. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Wrong-behavior-of-Ctrl-C-tp3610750p3610750.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jdowdster at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 15:18:28 2009 From: jdowdster at gmail.com (John Dowd) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:18:28 -0400 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081641.09765.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200909090918.35673.jdowdster@gmail.com> On Wednesday 09 September 2009 01:39:54 Paul Fertser wrote: > You certainly want to consult http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources > wikipage; it's frameworkd syncing resources on startup and thus > turning everything off. Thanks Paul. I installed the fsoraw utility (funny, I did a "opkg search fsoraw" and found nothing, then I did a "opkg list | grep -i fsoraw" and saw it in the list. Then I typed "opkg install fsoraw" and voila, it installed). I managed to get the fsoraw utility to start the wpa_supplicant applications and I could see the wpa handshake being done on the AP (Access Point) side. Then the udhcpc (busybox dhcp client) started up and did it's usual round of ignoring the response to its DHCPDISCOVER messages (this is why I want to get dhclient). Eventually it actually did send a DHCPACK and it had an IP address. I spent too long congratulating myself and gloating because just as I issued the ssh root at wifi-ip-address-of-my-neo the AP log said that the wifi had been disassociated and the Neo was showing that the wifi timed out due to inactivity. This is a few steps forward. Thanks for the help. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nicola >> > > Already did that Nicola... same result: all new Keepass windows appear > behind the main app and do not show up in the "task-switcher." > > If there's anything else you'd like me to try I'm happy to do any > testing that might help get KeepassX to work. Ok, try changing the noko feed in: http://noko.sourceforge.net/testing/shr-experimental/armv4t opkg update && opkg upgrade should upgrade qt from 4.4.3 to 4.5.2 It's a dirty experiment to have 4.5.2 in shr. May you report if it works? Regards Nicola From jdowdster at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 16:16:00 2009 From: jdowdster at gmail.com (John Dowd) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:16:00 -0400 Subject: Wireless Signal Power Levels... Message-ID: <200909091016.06211.jdowdster@gmail.com> I've been working with the wifi aspect of the Openmoko trying to setup for a SIP based phone system. One problem that I've been having that someone pointed out is that the signal levels may be one problem that I'm running into. When I have a wireless connection and I do a "iwconfig" on the Neo side, the signal level is being shown at -147dBm. Apparently that is very low and the expected working level should be around -90dBm. I'm running the AP (Access Point) using hostapd on PC with a USB wireless dongle so I do have access to the AP and settings. My question is: is the signal level really a problem and is there a simple configuration setting that I can use to try and fix it? Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20090909/7a153b0b/attachment.pgp From helge.hafting at hist.no Wed Sep 9 16:32:54 2009 From: helge.hafting at hist.no (Helge Hafting) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:32:54 +0200 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> Message-ID: <4AA7BC96.9060003@hist.no> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to be > informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first take is at > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD > > Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid > substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown". Good idea. I assume orientation changes is only reported to apps that actually ask for them? So that the accelerometers can be turned off to save power whenever no apps happen to be interested. And of course, apps that can't use the information shouldn't need to use the cpu time either. Helge Hafting From ron at tallent.ws Wed Sep 9 16:49:49 2009 From: ron at tallent.ws (inlovewithshr) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:49:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Shr-User] Please add QT to feeds, was: libQTxml.so.4 In-Reply-To: <359c5480909090712v23a8de50x13919185efc4971a@mail.gmail.com> References: <359c5480907131548y67db14bfla9572f272c8db550@mail.gmail.com> <1252495579.12636.192.camel@Bender> <359c5480909090712v23a8de50x13919185efc4971a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1252507789391-3611496.post@n2.nabble.com> Nicola Mfb wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Ronald Tallent wrote: > [...] > > Ok, try changing the noko feed in: > http://noko.sourceforge.net/testing/shr-experimental/armv4t > > opkg update && opkg upgrade should upgrade qt from 4.4.3 to 4.5.2 > > It's a dirty experiment to have 4.5.2 in shr. > May you report if it works? > > Regards > > Nicola > > Hey it worked! The upgrade updated three packages: libqtcore4, libqtxml4 and libqtgui4. After that Keepass worked beautifully. Error messages popped up properly and was able to view/edit entries and change settings. All the Keepass dialog boxes were selectable via Enlightenment task switcher as well. Haven't discovered yet if the qt 4.5.2 will break any other apps yet though. Thanks so much for the help! Ron -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Please-add-QT-to-feeds-was-Shr-User-libQTxml-so-4-tp3255151p3611496.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From stefan at openmoko.org Wed Sep 9 16:50:26 2009 From: stefan at openmoko.org (Stefan Schmidt) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:50:26 +0200 Subject: Device Orientation API In-Reply-To: <4AA7BC96.9060003@hist.no> References: <200909072136.21813.mickey@vanille-media.de> <4AA7BC96.9060003@hist.no> Message-ID: <20090909145026.GC4992@dodger.lab.datenfreihafen.org> Hello. On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 16:32, Helge Hafting wrote: > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > > > I'm sketching a simple device orientation API for FSO. The purpose is to be > > informed about changes in the physical device orientation. My first take is at > > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD > > > > Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid > > substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown". > > Good idea. > I assume orientation changes is only reported to apps that actually ask > for them? So that the accelerometers can be turned off to save power > whenever no apps happen to be interested. Yup, that is what the resource system in FSO handles. Power up devices only if apps request them and save power when nothing uses them. regards Stefan Schmidt From nicola.mfb at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 17:10:23 2009 From: nicola.mfb at gmail.com (Nicola Mfb) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:10:23 +0200 Subject: [Shr-User] Please add QT to feeds, was: libQTxml.so.4 In-Reply-To: <1252507789391-3611496.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <359c5480907131548y67db14bfla9572f272c8db550@mail.gmail.com> <1252495579.12636.192.camel@Bender> <359c5480909090712v23a8de50x13919185efc4971a@mail.gmail.com> <1252507789391-3611496.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <359c5480909090810s27f32ceds48604d59acbc49a6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM, inlovewithshr wrote: [...] > > Hey it worked! nice ;) > After that Keepass worked beautifully. Error messages popped up > properly and was able to view/edit entries and change settings. All the > Keepass dialog boxes were selectable via Enlightenment task switcher as > well. Haven't discovered yet if the qt 4.5.2 will break any other apps yet > though. I dont' know, they are a brute build mixing qt4 oe-dev recipes/classes with shr-import. > Thanks so much for the help! It's a bug that I reported to trolltech several months ago, fixed in 4.5.2, there is no hope actually to have that stuff in shr-feeds, waiting further for shr-import push to oe-dev. Anyway if you test keepassx and it works quite fine we may declare it usable and add it to the next Community Updates. Nicola From kazer at altern.org Wed Sep 9 17:21:43 2009 From: kazer at altern.org (KaZeR) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:21:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252496212719-3610215.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252334420659-3597779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> <27993.82.127.37.100.1252404231.squirrel@www.altern.org> <1252406716566-3602438.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252407449993-3602496.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252486133313-3609294.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252496212719-3610215.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252509703469-3611725.post@n2.nabble.com> c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > KaZeR wrote: >> >> Is it because of an outdated framework? >> > Yup, you'll need the latest SHR updates. WHat issues are you having - > things seem to be working fine for me. > It was related to the GSM device not being available. I haven't yet been able to pinpoint why exactly (i was getting 'No Service'). c_c wrote: > > > KaZeR wrote: >> >> Is it to be able to use the headset in phone calls? >> > Yes. (kind of) auto reconnect of bt headset on resume. > Do you plan to make a nice integration to switch to BT headset for calls? Would be.. amazing. Ok, i upgraded and i tested launcher a bit more. - you can't send a sms to a raw number? The contact has to be in the address book? - it could be useful to edit a contact from the contact selection dialog. Sometimes you see a contact, and think "ah, i made a typo in his name" or "ah, this number isn't valid anymore" - when sending a sms, the send dialog doesn't close. You have to press cancel? The console output shows that it sent the message (the number is printed) - the jump menu is bugged : B works, E leads to the 2nd contact starting by E, with M my first 'M' contact is the forelast in the display, and starting from P it's wrong. Could it be because you assume that my contact list is split homogeneously between letters? (10xA, 10xB, etc? ) I'll try the BT part in train later today. Thanks again! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-v-0-35-Release-inbuilt-contacts-sms-and-phonelog-tp3552019p3611725.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From neil.mstewart at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 17:59:00 2009 From: neil.mstewart at gmail.com (Neil M. Stewart) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:59:00 -0400 Subject: USB Networking disabled Message-ID: <5f7a25280909090859j706c36f9i99912fa6ae597d94@mail.gmail.com> Hi List, I recently compile the latest andy-tracking branch of the kernel (GTA02_mystable-a3587e4ed77974ad), however the usb networking feature is no longer operational. Prior to installing the new kernel, my Linux system would recognize the Neo Freerunner as a CDC Ethernet device, now it no longer recognizes the device once it is attached. I used the gta02_moredrivers_defconfig in the build process. Does anyone know what might be causing this issue? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Neil Stewart From taw at bitwiz.org.uk Wed Sep 9 18:09:37 2009 From: taw at bitwiz.org.uk (Thomas White) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:09:37 +0100 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090909170937.26dde696.taw@bitwiz.org.uk> On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 15:27:13 +0100 Joseph Reeves wrote: > > Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) > > I applied the latest BFS patch to the andy-tracking branch of the > kernel but it wouldn't build - probably an indication of my noob > kernel skills rather than the applicability of the patch, however. > Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-) Here's my first stab at getting the patch to apply to our kernel, done against drm-tracking but applicable to andy-tracking as well. Your milage may vary - I don't really know my way around these parts of the kernel, and I may have just "done it wrong", but it compiles (with a couple of warnings) and boots for me: http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/openmoko/BFS-andy-tracking-and-drm-tracking-BARELY-TESTED.patch Tom -- Thomas White From maxious at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 18:25:03 2009 From: maxious at gmail.com (Alex (Maxious) Sadleir) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:25:03 +1000 Subject: Wireless Signal Power Levels... In-Reply-To: <200909091016.06211.jdowdster@gmail.com> References: <200909091016.06211.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1e5d79990909090925y291f72fah8cd21767cb3ab86@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM, John Dowd wrote: > > My question is: is the signal level really a problem and is there a simple > configuration setting that I can use to try and fix it? > > Cheers!! There's two things you can do to increase this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi#Anecdotal_solutions 1) "wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf" is said to reduce the level of power management. This is an okay tradeoff - I have to use it to get stable reception at a longer range. 2) "iwconfig eth0 power off" I haven't had to do this one and it looks more drastic but you can try and see if it increases the signal level. From fercerpav at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 18:28:29 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:28:29 +0400 Subject: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo... In-Reply-To: <200909090918.35673.jdowdster@gmail.com> (John Dowd's message of "Wed\, 9 Sep 2009 09\:18\:28 -0400") References: <200909041132.56176.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909081641.09765.jdowdster@gmail.com> <200909090918.35673.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: John Dowd writes: > On Wednesday 09 September 2009 01:39:54 Paul Fertser wrote: >> You certainly want to consult http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources >> wikipage; it's frameworkd syncing resources on startup and thus >> turning everything off. ... > I managed to get the fsoraw utility to start the wpa_supplicant applications > and I could see the wpa handshake being done on the AP (Access Point) side. > Then the udhcpc (busybox dhcp client) started up and did it's usual round of > ignoring the response to its DHCPDISCOVER messages (this is why I want to get > dhclient). Eventually it actually did send a DHCPACK and it had an IP address. > I spent too long congratulating myself and gloating because just as I issued > the ssh root at wifi-ip-address-of-my-neo the AP log said that the wifi had been > disassociated and the Neo was showing that the wifi timed out due to > inactivity. Looks like you want to try "wmiconfig -i eth0 --power=maxperf" trick. HTH -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From fercerpav at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 18:29:23 2009 From: fercerpav at gmail.com (Paul Fertser) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:29:23 +0400 Subject: Wireless Signal Power Levels... In-Reply-To: <200909091016.06211.jdowdster@gmail.com> (John Dowd's message of "Wed\, 9 Sep 2009 10\:16\:00 -0400") References: <200909091016.06211.jdowdster@gmail.com> Message-ID: John Dowd writes: > My question is: is the signal level really a problem and is there a simple > configuration setting that I can use to try and fix it? IIRC the signal level reported is either bogus or is inconsistent with other wifi cards out there. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav at gmail.com From iknowjoseph at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 18:43:49 2009 From: iknowjoseph at gmail.com (Joseph Reeves) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:43:49 +0100 Subject: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas In-Reply-To: <20090909170937.26dde696.taw@bitwiz.org.uk> References: <20090902123720.GI4110@roque.1407.org> <20090902133051.GN28624@nysv.org> <1251905739048-3567588.post@n2.nabble.com> <958244340909060727h8b286dakf7bf690fe7c29f69@mail.gmail.com> <20090909170937.26dde696.taw@bitwiz.org.uk> Message-ID: <958244340909090943g5b2eedbav9ddd4d22deecd9c8@mail.gmail.com> Great, thanks Tom, I'll have a look at that later. Does it seem to make any difference for you? Cheers, Joseph 2009/9/9 Thomas White : > On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 15:27:13 +0100 > Joseph Reeves wrote: > >> > Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) >> >> I applied the latest BFS patch to the andy-tracking branch of the >> kernel but it wouldn't build - probably an indication of my noob >> kernel skills rather than the applicability of the patch, however. >> Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-) > > Here's my first stab at getting the patch to apply to our kernel, done > against drm-tracking but applicable to andy-tracking as well. ?Your > milage may vary - I don't really know my way around these parts of the > kernel, and I may have just "done it wrong", but it compiles (with a > couple of warnings) and boots for me: > > http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/openmoko/BFS-andy-tracking-and-drm-tracking-BARELY-TESTED.patch > > Tom > > -- > Thomas White > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > From bastian.muck at gmx.de Wed Sep 9 18:50:21 2009 From: bastian.muck at gmx.de (Bastian Muck) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:50:21 +0200 Subject: Intone and lyrics with album art;) In-Reply-To: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251861119175-3564473.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4AA7DCCD.6080707@gmx.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What about the albumimage in the id3-tag? Can you use it? That would be great. mp3Tag can import them very well. c_c schrieb: > Hi, > > Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> I would like to ask, how to add an albumart to intone? >> > In this case - change the name of the file Lady GaGa - Poker Face.jpg to > cover.jpg. That should display your cover art. > > Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> What is the fileformat of lyrics? >> > It's a text file as you have discovered. :-) BTW you could use intone as a > flashcard app with music / speech accompaniment this way!! > > Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> Is there a website to download tagged lyrics? >> > I use [1] for getting the lyrics and album art. In fact I had planned on > using their API to automate getting lyrics and album art - but apparently > because of licensing issues the API has been stopped. > > Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is. >> No advanced feature, like karaoke....;) >> > Do you have any ideas on how to implement karaoke without using up too > much CPU? I thought that the basic DSP stuff (being floating point) would > kill the Neo. > I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get > a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal. > > Laszlo KREKACS wrote: >> Could you please wrap lines of textbox? >> > Sure! Next release this weekend. > > [1]http://lyrics.wikia.com/lyrics/Main_Page -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKp9zMlYiDScJJ+7QRAjKRAKChlkZQZgvUPMhtwJK71IGf9MbPVgCfaa3m 5kvPBWTRR+qxKgMv6Nxl6uY= =5hTS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cchandel at yahoo.com Wed Sep 9 19:23:46 2009 From: cchandel at yahoo.com (c_c) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:23:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog) In-Reply-To: <1252509703469-3611725.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252336180003-3597917.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252336518629-3597949.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252339271802-3598173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252392963450-3601418.post@n2.nabble.com> <27993.82.127.37.100.1252404231.squirrel@www.altern.org> <1252406716566-3602438.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252407449993-3602496.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252486133313-3609294.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252496212719-3610215.post@n2.nabble.com> <1252509703469-3611725.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1252517026235-3612572.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, KaZeR wrote: > > Do you plan to make a nice integration to switch to BT headset for calls? > Would be.. amazing. > If you have a paired bt headset, launcher should autoconnect the bt headset for you on resume. KaZeR wrote: > > - you can't send a sms to a raw number? The contact has to be in the > address book? > As of now. I'll be adding the ability to add multiple addressees and raw numbers soon. KaZeR wrote: > > - it could be useful to edit a contact from the contact selection dialog. > Sometimes you see a contact, and think "ah, i made a typo in his name" or > "ah, this number isn't valid anymore" > Ok. Will add a edit button too. KaZeR wrote: > > - when sending a sms, the send dialog doesn't close. You have to press > cancel? The console output shows that it sent the message (the number is > printed) > Done. KaZeR wrote: > > - the jump menu is bugged : B works, E leads to the 2nd contact starting > by E, with M my first 'M' contact is the forelast in the display, and > starting from P it's wrong. Could it be because you assume that my contact > list is split homogeneously between letters?