cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

[Leonti Bielski]

So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project?
For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses
some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then
obm could import new data and everyone would be happy.

Leonti

Leonti

On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg <t.landspurg at 8motions.com> wrote:
>   Hello Risto,
>
>   Here is a few facts from such FAQ:
>
>  Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the
> 'untrusted ones')
>
>  One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID
> provides a complete access to the data and the measures.
>
>  OpenCellId added a "CVS uploader" to import bulk CSV data files
> mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have
> any OpenMoko phone to test it.
>
>   I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not
> involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and
> others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration
> effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the
> data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to
> support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed.
>   Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an
> integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate
> them.
>   Regards,
>
> 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa <risto at kurppa.fi>:
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra<rms at 1407.org>
>> wrote:
>>> How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ?
>>
>> I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's
>> :)
>>
>> CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html
>> and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?)
>> OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client:
>> http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories)
>> OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients:
>> http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download
>>
>> * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from
>> other projects.
>>
>> AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each
>> other) on collecting cells as OpenBmap&OpenCellID - well, you just
>> collect the cells.
>> AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects
>> AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important
>> data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels.
>>
>> To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects.
>> Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to
>> find the position of a phone, right?
>>
>> 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj
>> cellhunter cells?
>> 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet
>> 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner
>>
>> I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just
>> easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of
>> these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of
>> Open Source. Can't really see it here.
>>
>> r
>>
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