[shr-u] first impressions

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.dos1 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 11 21:42:26 CEST 2009


On 9/11/09, Al Johnson <openmoko at mazikeen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Friday 11 September 2009, William Kenworthy wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 10:35 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:21:31AM +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote:
>> > > On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 19:12 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>> > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 07:39:02PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
>> > > > > > Then where do you have any "OK" button?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ok, it's called "quit".
>> > > >
>> > > > And it's utterly useless, in fact I'm thinking of writing up a
>> > > > few small-screen usability recommendations for our friendly apps.
>> > > >
>> > > > One of them is: don't use "quit/close/..." buttons, they waste
>> > > > valuable eral estate and you can close the windown easily in an
>> > > > alternative way (panel, click on close).
>> > > >
>> > > > Rui
>> > >
>> > > Hooray - sense at last.  Coming up with a user oriented interface, not
>> > > a programmers idea of what he personally likes will be a great step
>> > > forward.  I like close buttons, but consistency is more important I
>> > > think.  And please, please get rid of those dumb sliders used where
>> > > radio buttons are used :)
>> >
>> > A slider makes more sense (at least to me) than a radio button with
>> > two options :)
>> >
>> > Rui
>>
>> Might be cultural preference perhaps?  To me a slider means an analog
>> value, on/off and similar are discrete, unconnected values so should be
>> represented as such.
>
> I remember physical slider switches with 2 to 4 discrete positions, so
> perhaps
> it seems more natural to me. The same goes for 3-position toggle switches
> and
> multi-stop rotary switches.
>
>> Also, I cant remember any other HCI interface that uses sliders like this.
>
> The iPhone is the obvious one, though I first remember seeing them on audio
> software that was trying to look like a physical effects unit and/or synth.
>
>> I am also biased in that the slider designs used in shr dont work well -
>> when using a finger they often require multiple swipes before they work,
>> or you "miss" the active area all together - especially when moving and
>> you are trying to set a slider while walking/carrying other items, ...
>
> Are you thinking of the buggy wifi switch in shr-settings? You'd probably be
> just as upset with the same code on a checkbox when it refused to change
> state
> when you clicked on it.
>
> I suspect the intent behind the slider is to get around the unintended
> button
> clicks when trying to drag-scroll, but it may just have been cosmetic. I
> don't
> have the same trouble you do operating them in the absence of bugs, but that
> comes down to preference, habit and finger size I guess. I don't know if E
> is
> sufficiently flexible to theme around the problem.

It is. And also you can setup finger size directly from SHR Settings ;)

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Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
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