"/etc/init.d/qpe restart" breaks qtmoko

Fri May 28 12:44:38 CEST 2010

hi again,

>"haven't any connection"
>I belive (not sure) they need a connection. 

just to be shure we speak about the same thing: a active connection in form of 
a call, sending a sms or surfing the web is meaned..

just if possible (because of tracking): where are you from (country)? it's a 
bit of politic from me to inform me of diffrent states and look how strong the 
gouverments use a spynet.. or how deep they're going to 1984 ;)

and yeah, ccc is something i know, but i've never really contact with these, 
so i thinked, if you wrote about tracking, i ask you :)

sorry for the offtopic, but at least for me, it's a really interesting topic..

greets

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Rashid schrieb am Freitag 28 Mai 2010:
Hi 

"nice idea, but are persons trackable, if they didn't phone or use the
gsm-connection (i think, it could be, but i'm not shure).."

RFID in ID cards maybe but other I can't imagine a way.
May surveillance cameras and face recognition (don't believe its working
with low res cameras). I think the best way to trace a person is a
mobile phone. And I don't to give them this way.

"i also heared from some peoble that the gouverment could hear
everything from  your mobilephone-mic (they used closed-source-phones)"

There are "invisible" sms to get a respond from your phone, this is a
way to trace you. There are some evidences the some people can hear what
you are talking at your mobile and spy you. Even if you have a active
call. 

"haven't any connection"
I belive (not sure) they need a connection. 

"when the mobilephone is off"
Probably true. Many phones arent realy turned off but are in an advanced
sleep mode where the mic and the modem are working. I read it in a
computer science forum, don't know if its true. But there is one
evidence: 2 mafia guys were meeting at a secure place (you know no
spies, bugs etc). They both turned their mobile phones off. But the
police got everything they were talking about. Off course there could be
a very very good hidden bug anywhere, but as fas as I know it was a
realy secure place to meet.

"and also when you remove  the batterie (?!?)"

I don't believe it. Most groups (even paranoid ones) think it is save
enough to take the batterie out. I don't think you can power a phone for
an half hour to make calls and record audio with build in condensators.

".. diffrent storys, would be interested what's technical possible.. may
you or someone here know that?"

A bit. A very place for further questions is the Chaos Computer Club
http://www.ccc.de/

Greetins

Am Freitag, den 28.05.2010, 10:33 +0200 schrieb Vinzenz Hersche:
> Hey,
> 
> a little offtopicquestion:
> 
> >Motivation:
> >
> >The idea is to to turn the modem off and turn it every hour on to look
> >for new sms for 2 or 3 minutes and then turn it off again. Im living in
> >a country where every mobile phone movement is traced so I deciced to
> >make it harder to trace me. 
> 
> nice idea, but are persons trackable, if they didn't phone or use the gsm-
> connection (i think, it could be, but i'm not shure)..
> i also heared from some peoble that the gouverment could hear everything 
from 
> your mobilephone-mic (they used closed-source-phones) also when you didn't 
> have any connection, when the mobilephone is off or/and also when you remove 
> the batterie (?!?).. diffrent storys, would be interested what's technical 
> possible.. may you or someone here know that?
> 
> greets
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------
> Rashid schrieb am Freitag 28 Mai 2010:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I wanted to write a restart script for the gsm modem.
> Turning the modem off is working. But when I want to restart it I have
> to restart qtopia. This isn't desireable. 
> 
> First there is a bug 
> "Synchronisation was terminated due to application error" which allways
> displays (when you close it, it comes again) the waiting clock with
> "jumping" watch hand. When someone knows how to fix the bug, I would be
> very happy :).
> 
> Second: I use the phone for reading pdfs, watching movies etc. It would
> be great if I can restart the GSM modem and initialize it with reboot
> the whole GUI / X-Server.
> 
> So I'm looking for a gsm restart / initialize script that doesn't need
> to restart qtopia.
> 
> Motivation:
> 
> The idea is to to turn the modem off and turn it every hour on to look
> for new sms for 2 or 3 minutes and then turn it off again. Im living in
> a country where every mobile phone movement is traced so I deciced to
> make it harder to trace me. 
> 
> 
> How I turned down GSM (maybe improveable):
> 
> So I wrote a small script to turn the power the modem down and it works
> fine:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
> echo "AT at POFF" > /dev/ttySAC0
> 
> There is maybe a way to cut the power from the modem via gpio like in
> this thread. 
> http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-
community/2009/2/23/5071724/thread
> 
> If someone knows how the exact command is (and how you go back and power
> it on, so it works with qtmoko) I would be very happy. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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