New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hocedez at
Sun Oct 10 23:42:34 CEST 2010

  On 10/10/10 17:27, Al Johnson wrote:
> On Saturday 09 October 2010, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:
>>    On 10/09/2010 06:15 PM, Al Johnson wrote:
>>> On Saturday 09 October 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
>>>> 2010/10/6 Edder<edder at>:
>>>>> Will it support headphone, with a microphone?
>>>> I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth headphones, ie.
>>>> not all devices need the extra plugs if something has to be
>>>> sacrificed.
>>> The 40 pin connector[1] has pins for headset left, right, mic and detect,
>>> so it should support a headset connecting through this at least. There
>>> is also a minijack socket that appears to be 3.5mm[2], but the spec[3]
>>> and pin disposition suggest this may be audio out only. If so it's an
>>> odd choice as there is a de fatcto standard for 4-pole minijacks for
>>> headphone and headset.
>>>> 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani<giacomomariani at>:
>>>>> Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly!
>>>> Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but
>>>> indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other
>>>> devices (host mode)
>>> USB is also on the 40-pin connector. Judging by the beagleboard, the OTG
>>> pins wil give gadget or OTG support while the other port will give host
>>> mode. There doesn't appear to be a 5V out pin though, so host mode may
>>> be unpowered.
>>> Personally I would rather see a pair of usb ports than the micro-HDMI and
>>> the barrel power connector, and make sure the headset connector is
>>> 4-pole with mic support.
>>> [1]
>>> [2]
>>> [3]
>> Interesting notes ! I add them to the Do/Don't Do list.
> Where is this list?

--> It's in my head, and in the ML also here :
>> I just answerd about a USB adapter (pluged into the 40pins). Perhaphs a
>> multiport adapter, plugged in the 40pins, but with a 'U' form factor, so
>> the wires will be parallel to the phone and behind.
>> What about that ?
> Add some fold out legs and you have a docking station in the same unit. It's
> certainly neater than an octopus cable, or multiple adapters.
> In another post I suggested putting the 3G module, gps, pressure and ambient
> light sensors, magnetometer and gyro plus connectors in a small clip on module
> using the 40 pin connector. That makes phone and navigation hardware an option
> for those that want it without requiring AI to change their existing design,
> or force the extra expense on those that don't want it. The moko nav board v2
> already shows the sensor circuit - 3.3v supply and i2c interface as available
> on the 40pin connector. There's a serial port for GPS too, which just leaves
> 3G, and perhaps some level shifting for the interfaces.
Really really nice idea !!! I Like the idea of the dockable addon !
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