Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone

Bob Ham rah at
Fri Aug 23 12:08:01 CEST 2013

On 2013-08-23 09:38, joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> On Fri 23 August 2013 10:35:38 Bob Ham wrote:
>> On 2013-08-23 07:26, openmoko at wrote:

>> The GTA04 *is* out of production and no longer for sale.
> Says who?

Says Golden Delicious:

   "Note: we currently have no stock since we need to collect at least 
200 orders so that we can produce in big enough batches."

-- First sentence on

>> > There are no other
>> > reasons why it isnt available, just damn investment $$ are 
>> missing.
>> If money is the only problem then why is nobody running a 
>> fundraising
>> campaign?  I don't think money is the only problem.
> I think it's up to you to answer your own question, instead of 
> implicitly
> accusing highly honored guys like Nikolaus and Christoph of not 
> telling the
> truth.

There seems to be a misunderstanding here.  I'm not accusing anybody of 
hiding problems.  I'm saying that there are problems other than money 
which are preventing the successful production of a free phone.  Those 
other problems have been discussed openly on this list and others.

> everybody (even you) can start a fundraiser.

Of course they *can*.  But they're *not*.  That's the point.

Bob Ham <rah at>

for (;;) { ++pancakes; }

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