From hns at goldelico.com Fri Jul 1 06:29:39 2016 From: hns at goldelico.com (H. Nikolaus Schaller) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:29:39 +0200 Subject: Welcome to the Tinkerphones community Message-ID: <2B3BE22C-A11B-4E1F-83BC-6217FF614A29@goldelico.com> Hi, after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we thought that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward name "OpenPhoenux" (it was always difficult to spell and pronounce) with something new, self-explaining, that your mom understands. "OpenPhoneux" was originally coined in ca. 2009 as the name of an initiative, when it became clear that the Openmoko company would stop to develop a successor of the Openmoko Freerunner. It finally brought the GTA04 device to life. Back then, this was a motivating allusion to the situation of building something new on the remains of Openmoko, but nowadays probably only some core members of our community are able to understand this background. Therefore we discussed in a small circle what the core of Openmoko and Openphoenux is. It was easy to find what it is not: * it is not a 100% fair phone (we don't have the resources to track components - it is enough challenge to have it working and being produced) * it is not a 100% open phone (we have not found a feasible solution for WLAN and GPU) * it is not a 100% secure phone (we can't do security audits of every component) * it is not a cutting edge phone (we do not get the latest and greatest chips as mainstream manufacturers do) * it is not a geeks (only) phone (we want everybody to be able to use it) But then we found what the common denominator of all Openmoko activities was and is: It is a device that allows you to tinker with it, i.e. find out how it works, to replace software and even hardware components for smaller or bigger improvements and even repairs. It is designed in a way to enable such changes instead of stopping you (e.g. by protected boot loaders, undocumented code etc.). All this is facilitated by being open (as far as NDAs and other limitations allow) and using open source technology (e.g. GNU/Linux, Debian). Here is a definition of what "tinkering" is [1]: "tinker or tinker around to make small changes to something in order to improve or repair it" "tinker with: He spends hours tinkering around with car engines." So we are now happy to tell the world that we are members of "the Tinkerphone community" :) There is a new web domain representing this change: I hope you will agree with us and stay here, contribute and share your ideas and achievements. And invite new tinkerers to participate. Happy tinkering, Nikolaus PS: it will need your help to update the documentation pages... [1]: From joerg at openmoko.org Fri Jul 1 07:12:29 2016 From: joerg at openmoko.org (joerg Reisenweber) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 09:12:29 +0200 Subject: Welcome to the Tinkerphones community In-Reply-To: <2B3BE22C-A11B-4E1F-83BC-6217FF614A29@goldelico.com> References: <2B3BE22C-A11B-4E1F-83BC-6217FF614A29@goldelico.com> Message-ID: <3546542.ADYALU38dz@saturn> Congrats! This was overdue and the new name is absolutely to the point and has quite some appeal. The definition of what is / is not a tinkerphone is very helpful and should go to the frontpage at http://www.tinkerphones.org I like it very much. What about icons etc, generally the complete "corporate identity"? Has it been discussed what will change (beyond the obviously pending overhaul of http://www.tinkerphones.org artwork/design), and are there already tasks assigned to experts? Maybe even new logos etc established and available? Many thanks, Nikolaus - and whoever else been involved! :-) cheers jOERG On Fri 01 July 2016 08:29:39 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi, > after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we > thought that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward > name "OpenPhoenux" (it was always difficult to spell and pronounce) > with something new, self-explaining, that your mom understands. > > "OpenPhoneux" was originally coined in ca. 2009 as the name of an > initiative, when it became clear that the Openmoko company would stop > to develop a successor of the Openmoko Freerunner. It finally brought > the GTA04 device to life. > > Back then, this was a motivating allusion to the situation of building > something new on the remains of Openmoko, but nowadays probably > only some core members of our community are able to understand > this background. > > Therefore we discussed in a small circle what the core of Openmoko > and Openphoenux is. > > It was easy to find what it is not: > * it is not a 100% fair phone (we don't have the resources to track > components - it is enough challenge to have it working and being produced) > * it is not a 100% open phone (we have not found a feasible solution for > WLAN and GPU) > * it is not a 100% secure phone (we can't do security audits of every > component) > * it is not a cutting edge phone (we do not get the latest and greatest > chips as mainstream manufacturers do) > * it is not a geeks (only) phone (we want everybody to be able to use > it) > > But then we found what the common denominator of all Openmoko > activities was and is: > > It is a device that allows you to tinker with it, i.e. find out how it > works, to replace software and even hardware components for smaller or > bigger improvements and even repairs. It is designed in a way to enable > such changes instead of stopping you (e.g. by protected boot loaders, > undocumented code etc.). > > All this is facilitated by being open (as far as NDAs and other limitations > allow) and using open source technology (e.g. GNU/Linux, Debian). > > Here is a definition of what "tinkering" is [1]: > > "tinker or tinker around to make small changes to something in order to > improve or repair it" "tinker with: He spends hours tinkering around with > car engines." > > So we are now happy to tell the world that we are members of > "the Tinkerphone community" :) > > There is a new web domain representing this change: > > > > I hope you will agree with us and stay here, contribute and share > your ideas and achievements. And invite new tinkerers to participate. > > Happy tinkering, > Nikolaus > > PS: it will need your help to update the documentation pages... > > [1]: > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- () ascii ribbon campaign /\ against html e-mail - against proprietary attachments http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii/ (German) From hns at goldelico.com Fri Jul 1 12:33:53 2016 From: hns at goldelico.com (H. Nikolaus Schaller) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:33:53 +0200 Subject: [Tinkerphones] Welcome to the Tinkerphones community In-Reply-To: <3546542.ADYALU38dz@saturn> References: <2B3BE22C-A11B-4E1F-83BC-6217FF614A29@goldelico.com> <3546542.ADYALU38dz@saturn> Message-ID: <078C5C54-E010-4BE8-9F6F-0F0A4542AF92@goldelico.com> > Am 01.07.2016 um 09:12 schrieb joerg Reisenweber : > > Congrats! > > This was overdue and the new name is absolutely to the point and has quite > some appeal. The definition of what is / is not a tinkerphone is very helpful > and should go to the frontpage at http://www.tinkerphones.org > > I like it very much. That is nice to hear :) > > What about icons etc, generally the complete "corporate identity"? Has it been > discussed what will change (beyond the obviously pending overhaul of > http://www.tinkerphones.org artwork/design), and are there already tasks > assigned to experts? Maybe even new logos etc established and available? No, nothing. Just the the domain registration and minor changes to the mailing list and home page. So there is plenty of room for volunteers to make proposals and many topics for our community to discuss. > > Many thanks, Nikolaus - and whoever else been involved! :-) > cheers > jOERG > > On Fri 01 July 2016 08:29:39 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Hi, >> after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we >> thought that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward >> name "OpenPhoenux" (it was always difficult to spell and pronounce) >> with something new, self-explaining, that your mom understands. >> >> "OpenPhoneux" was originally coined in ca. 2009 as the name of an >> initiative, when it became clear that the Openmoko company would stop >> to develop a successor of the Openmoko Freerunner. It finally brought >> the GTA04 device to life. >> >> Back then, this was a motivating allusion to the situation of building >> something new on the remains of Openmoko, but nowadays probably >> only some core members of our community are able to understand >> this background. >> >> Therefore we discussed in a small circle what the core of Openmoko >> and Openphoenux is. >> >> It was easy to find what it is not: >> * it is not a 100% fair phone (we don't have the resources to track >> components - it is enough challenge to have it working and being produced) >> * it is not a 100% open phone (we have not found a feasible solution for >> WLAN and GPU) >> * it is not a 100% secure phone (we can't do security audits of every >> component) >> * it is not a cutting edge phone (we do not get the latest and greatest >> chips as mainstream manufacturers do) >> * it is not a geeks (only) phone (we want everybody to be able to use >> it) >> >> But then we found what the common denominator of all Openmoko >> activities was and is: >> >> It is a device that allows you to tinker with it, i.e. find out how it >> works, to replace software and even hardware components for smaller or >> bigger improvements and even repairs. It is designed in a way to enable >> such changes instead of stopping you (e.g. by protected boot loaders, >> undocumented code etc.). >> >> All this is facilitated by being open (as far as NDAs and other limitations >> allow) and using open source technology (e.g. GNU/Linux, Debian). >> >> Here is a definition of what "tinkering" is [1]: >> >> "tinker or tinker around to make small changes to something in order to >> improve or repair it" "tinker with: He spends hours tinkering around with >> car engines." >> >> So we are now happy to tell the world that we are members of >> "the Tinkerphone community" :) >> >> There is a new web domain representing this change: >> >> >> >> I hope you will agree with us and stay here, contribute and share >> your ideas and achievements. And invite new tinkerers to participate. >> >> Happy tinkering, >> Nikolaus >> >> PS: it will need your help to update the documentation pages... >> >> [1]: >> >> BR, Nikolaus From neil at ossau.homelinux.net Fri Jul 1 16:09:38 2016 From: neil at ossau.homelinux.net (Neil Jerram) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:09:38 +0100 Subject: Welcome to the Tinkerphones community In-Reply-To: <3546542.ADYALU38dz@saturn> References: <2B3BE22C-A11B-4E1F-83BC-6217FF614A29@goldelico.com> <3546542.ADYALU38dz@saturn> Message-ID: <01c301d1d3b2$f98e5870$ecab0950$@ossau.homelinux.net> Agreed - I think the new name is exactly right. Neil -----Original Message----- From: community [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of joerg Reisenweber Sent: 01 July 2016 08:12 To: community at lists.openmoko.org; OpenPhoenux Community Subject: Re: Welcome to the Tinkerphones community Congrats! This was overdue and the new name is absolutely to the point and has quite some appeal. The definition of what is / is not a tinkerphone is very helpful and should go to the frontpage at http://www.tinkerphones.org I like it very much. What about icons etc, generally the complete "corporate identity"? Has it been discussed what will change (beyond the obviously pending overhaul of http://www.tinkerphones.org artwork/design), and are there already tasks assigned to experts? Maybe even new logos etc established and available? Many thanks, Nikolaus - and whoever else been involved! :-) cheers jOERG On Fri 01 July 2016 08:29:39 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi, > after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we thought > that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward name > "OpenPhoenux" (it was always difficult to spell and pronounce) with > something new, self-explaining, that your mom understands. > > "OpenPhoneux" was originally coined in ca. 2009 as the name of an > initiative, when it became clear that the Openmoko company would stop > to develop a successor of the Openmoko Freerunner. It finally brought > the GTA04 device to life. > > Back then, this was a motivating allusion to the situation of building > something new on the remains of Openmoko, but nowadays probably only > some core members of our community are able to understand this > background. > > Therefore we discussed in a small circle what the core of Openmoko and > Openphoenux is. > > It was easy to find what it is not: > * it is not a 100% fair phone (we don't have the resources to track > components - it is enough challenge to have it working and being > produced) > * it is not a 100% open phone (we have not found a feasible solution > for WLAN and GPU) > * it is not a 100% secure phone (we can't do security audits of every > component) > * it is not a cutting edge phone (we do not get the latest and greatest > chips as mainstream manufacturers do) > * it is not a geeks (only) phone (we want everybody to be able to use > it) > > But then we found what the common denominator of all Openmoko > activities was and is: > > It is a device that allows you to tinker with it, i.e. find out how it > works, to replace software and even hardware components for smaller or > bigger improvements and even repairs. It is designed in a way to > enable such changes instead of stopping you (e.g. by protected boot > loaders, undocumented code etc.). > > All this is facilitated by being open (as far as NDAs and other > limitations > allow) and using open source technology (e.g. GNU/Linux, Debian). > > Here is a definition of what "tinkering" is [1]: > > "tinker or tinker around to make small changes to something in order > to improve or repair it" "tinker with: He spends hours tinkering > around with car engines." > > So we are now happy to tell the world that we are members of "the > Tinkerphone community" :) > > There is a new web domain representing this change: > > > > I hope you will agree with us and stay here, contribute and share your > ideas and achievements. And invite new tinkerers to participate. > > Happy tinkering, > Nikolaus > > PS: it will need your help to update the documentation pages... > > [1]: > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- () ascii ribbon campaign /\ against html e-mail - against proprietary attachments http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii/ (German) _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community at lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community From cvwillegen at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 08:59:30 2016 From: cvwillegen at gmail.com (Christ van Willegen) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:59:30 +0200 Subject: Research position in setting up peer-to-peer mobile communication Message-ID: Hello, sorry for the off-topic cross post with a link to a Dutch site :-) I ran into this page: http://limesco.nl/vacature-onderzoek-en-implementatie-peer-to-peer-mobiele-telefonie.html It talks about how the (small) telecomm provider Limesco would like to do research into developing peer-to-peer mobile communication. So, if anyone's interested in that, run over to the page (using Google Translate?). Deadline for application is July 15th. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 From dfeugey at ascinfo.fr Mon Jul 25 10:43:09 2016 From: dfeugey at ascinfo.fr (David Feugey) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:43:09 +0200 Subject: WikiReader Message-ID: Hi all. I'll like to get a copy of the latest files needed to use the WikiReader. There are torrent files, but they are all inactive... If someone has the archives on its hard drive, I can provide some free hosting for all of them. I have 1 TB of disc and a good bandwidth. Thanks, David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dfeugey at ascinfo.fr Mon Jul 25 10:56:48 2016 From: dfeugey at ascinfo.fr (David Feugey) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:56:48 +0200 Subject: WikiReader Message-ID: Hi all. I'll like to get a copy of the latest files needed to use the WikiReader. 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HTH References: 1) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2Sc5Qa5d_tLdHIyRW51aDRVMm8 -- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From karimi at neginmail.ir Wed Jul 27 04:43:49 2016 From: karimi at neginmail.ir (karimi at neginmail.ir) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:13:49 +0430 (IRDT) Subject: SHR source code In-Reply-To: <1014491289.34490.1469594619426.JavaMail.zimbra@neginmail.ir> Message-ID: <990342307.34491.1469594629282.JavaMail.zimbra@neginmail.ir> Hi I'm looking for SHR source code. Where can i find it? Thanks From karimi at neginmail.ir Wed Jul 27 05:06:02 2016 From: karimi at neginmail.ir (karimi at neginmail.ir) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:36:02 +0430 (IRDT) Subject: SHR Message-ID: <49198157.34558.1469595962778.JavaMail.zimbra@neginmail.ir> Hi I'm looking for SHR source code. Where can i find it? Thanks From dfeugey at ascinfo.fr Wed Jul 27 05:55:08 2016 From: dfeugey at ascinfo.fr (David Feugey) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 07:55:08 +0200 Subject: WikiReader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's a first step. Thanks! My aim is to provide a backup of all these files: https://thepiratebay.cr/search/wikireader/0/7// But I need someone who have them... I can set up an temp SSH account to upload them on my server. (else, box or google drive should be ok) Second step would be to provide new files, but it'll take more time. Bye, David 2016-07-26 19:50 GMT+02:00 Torfinn Ingolfsen : > On 07/25/2016 12:56, David Feugey wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > I'll like to get a copy of the latest files needed to use the WikiReader. > > There are torrent files, but they are all inactive... > > I'm not sure which files you are looking for. > I have base-20121207.7z, it can be downloaded from the link in [1]. > > HTH > > References: > 1) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2Sc5Qa5d_tLdHIyRW51aDRVMm8 > -- > Torfinn Ingolfsen, > Norway > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community at lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Mobile : 06 76 67 91 60 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mtdean at thirdcontact.com Wed Jul 27 11:07:11 2016 From: mtdean at thirdcontact.com (Michael T. Dean) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 07:07:11 -0400 Subject: SHR source code In-Reply-To: <990342307.34491.1469594629282.JavaMail.zimbra@neginmail.ir> References: <990342307.34491.1469594629282.JavaMail.zimbra@neginmail.ir> Message-ID: <579895DF.9090300@thirdcontact.com> On 07/27/2016 12:43 AM, karimi wrote: > Hi > I'm looking for SHR source code. Where can i find it? > > Thanks It seems: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR has http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#More_Information which lists http://trac.shr-project.org/ and http://git.shr-project.org/ Mike