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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=266252900-14122006>fair point, things like the antenna type/positioning
will affect rf emmissions and i doubt the antenna is integral to the GSM
unit.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=266252900-14122006></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>b<SPAN class=266252900-14122006>ut going back to the
intent of the original question, i expect the neo will be FCC approved so that
it may be sold state side and i suspect FIC will be selling the device as an end
user product because as much as developers will love and embrace it it's mass
markets that bring in the money. Building a phone with the sort of price they've
quoted for the limited market of hardware/software hackers just dosn't make
financial sense.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=266252900-14122006>I don't think <FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#000000>Mr La Monte Henry Piggy Yarroll will have to worry about the FCC
procecuting him for owning a telephone in much the same way you wouldn't have
them chasing you for using a pda(open sauce naturally) with a serial (over
bluetooth probably) link to a GSM phone...<SPAN class=094524400-14122006><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=266252900-14122006><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000><SPAN
class=094524400-14122006> </SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV></SPAN></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=266252900-14122006>Alternativly I advise moving from the US to the UK
perhaps, then you won't have to worry about the FCC at all! ;-) (yes
I know we have regulations here too)</DIV></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=266252900-14122006>Graham</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Jeremy<BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 December 2006 23:22<BR><B>To:</B>
community@lists.openmoko.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: FCC status for FIC
Neo1973?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif"><SPAN>I'm
no expert at all, but I do know that when we were designing a device with a
Kyocera m200 CDMA data module (<A
href="http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/m2m-business/index.htm"
target=_blank>http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/m2m-business/index.htm</A>), the
module itself was carrier (Sprint in our case) approved and FCC approved, but
once we incorporated it into our device, we then had to get it re-approved by
the carrier and the FCC (though it is typically an easier process when using an
approved module already). I think the deciding factor may be whether the
module is "stand-alone" or not... But I say that with the disclaimer that I
could be completely wrong. :)</SPAN><BR><BR>~Jeremy<BR><BR>
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new roman,new york,times,serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Graham
Auld <openmoko@graham.auld.me.uk><BR>To:
community@lists.openmoko.org<BR>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:06:45
PM<BR>Subject: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=344580122-13122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I wouldn't expect such an issue as i expect the GSM module
will be correctly certified and as access is via AT command set you /shouldn't/
be able to make it do things it's not allowed to...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=344580122-13122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>someone please correct me if i'm incorrect in my
assumptions</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=344580122-13122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=344580122-13122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Graham</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeff
Andros<BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 December 2006 16:17<BR><B>To:</B> David
Schlesinger<BR><B>Cc:</B> community@lists.openmoko.org; La Monte Henry Piggy
Yarroll<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT size=2>>not to mention completely outside the terms of
service of any major carrier...?<BR><BR>a while ago, I spoke to both Cingular
and T-Mob, I told them I was doing some work with a gm-862, both said there was
nothing in their service restrictions about connecting with weird equipment like
that <BR><BR>--Jeff<BR></FONT><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 12/13/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>David
Schlesinger</B> <<A href="mailto:David.Schlesinger@palmsource.com"
target=_blank rel=nofollow>David.Schlesinger@palmsource.com</A>> wrote:
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<P><FONT size=2>Do you mean "legal challenges" beyond its use being, strictly
speaking, a violation of Federal law, not to mention completely outside the
terms of service of any major carrier...?</FONT></P>
<DIV><SPAN class=q id=q_10f7c8d770c8f612_1><FONT
size=2><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org</A> on behalf of La Monte
Henry Piggy Yarroll<BR>Sent: Wed 12/13/2006 7:37 AM<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>community@lists.openmoko.org</A><BR>Subject: FCC status for FIC
Neo1973?<BR><BR>Would anyone care to comment on the FCC status of the FIC
Neo1973? In<BR>particular, are there any legal challenges associated with
using<BR>prototypes on a live GSM
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