There's always the multipress key input method:<br><br><a href="http://www.robocal.com/prod/robocal/robodicto.php">http://www.robocal.com/prod/robocal/robodicto.php</a><br><br>It's low-tech, and works on all phones, since the logic is in the server. I admit it's a bit tedious, but, ...
<br><br>Ted Gilchrist<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/31/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Thomas Gstädtner</b> <<a href="mailto:thomas@gstaedtner.net">thomas@gstaedtner.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thank you for this post chris, nice to know, that dasher was running on a so old and slow device already.<br>I'm see the things like you do: Touchscreen means you always have to stare at the device for making inputs.<br>
Like I said - I had a nokia 7710 before and it was nearby impossible to use it blind. Even if you had a fullscreen T9-keyboad with huge keys you had to check the display, because you cannot feel which "key" you are pressing.
<br>I also like the "driving a car" comparison :)<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/5/30, Chris Ball <<a href="mailto:cjb@laptop.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
cjb@laptop.org</a>>:</span><div><span class="e" id="q_112e3326e7c4ffc0_1"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br><br>Hi,<br><br>I'm one of the Dasher developers, and am also interested in hacking on<br>OpenMoko. So, getting Dasher going is fairly likely.<br><br> > This pretty much means that you have to stare at the display all
<br> > the time when inputting text.<br><br>Yes, this is the main difference between Dasher and T9. However, the<br>comments about needing a lot of screen resolution or CPU aren't so true<br>-- we did Dasher on the iPaq seven years ago at full-speed and using
<br>150x150 resolution, and it works great. The reason we get away with<br>not so much resolution is that you're only really ever being asked to<br>choose between five or so probable letters at each turn, and it doesn't
<br>take much screen space to show those, and you can predict whereabouts<br>you're headed by knowing the alphabetic order of which character comes<br>next.<br><br> > Sure - in theory, dasher may approach arithmetic coding in terms of
<br> > information input.<br><br>(I'm not sure what you mean by "approach" -- Dasher *is* an arithmetic<br>coder, and matches the information-theoretic efficiency of one in<br>terms of bits/input to characters/output.)
<br><br> > But unless you can do the coding in your head, you've got to stare<br> > at the screen, making it less useful for environments where you've<br> > got vibration, sunlight, walking down the street, or less likely
<br> > for a phone, if you're blind.<br><br>Yes, but the Neo doesn't have a keyboard, and doesn't have keys for T9<br>that you can use without looking at the screen, so I don't think this<br>is a useful criticism. Dasher's very tolerant of vibration and mistakes,
<br>unlike T9 on a touchscreen -- it's much like driving a car, in that if<br>you oversteer or understeer you just correct yourself later, because<br>it's all about navigation and where you end up. We can type easily over
<br>20wpm on the iPaq with a touchscreen and stylus.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>- Chris.<br>--<br>Chris Ball <<a href="mailto:cjb@laptop.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">cjb@laptop.org
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