You are right, and that was before some years. They used this concept in the whole P-Series except the newest one (P990i) afaik.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/6/5, kenneth marken <<a href="mailto:k-marken@online.no">
k-marken@online.no</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Bradley Hook wrote:<br>> A possible solution for this has been discussed under an accessibility
<br>> thread. The Maestro is a simple (yet effective) clip-on cover for<br>> PocketPCs. There are a few different versions of it, which work with<br>> various different brands and models of PocketPCs. Check out a picture
<br>> at:<br>> <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2004/07/01/the-maestro-visuaides-pocket-pc-for-the-blind/">http://www.engadget.com/2004/07/01/the-maestro-visuaides-pocket-pc-for-the-blind/</a><br>><br>> The device is simply real buttons that, when pressed, place pressure on
<br>> a specific portion of the underlaying touchscreen. Real tactile feedback<br>> without any hardware modifications to the underlaying device. A software<br>> UI written to coincide with the specific button pattern is the only
<br>> thing needed. You also get the advantage of very specific pressure<br>> points, allowing you to cram more "hot" areas into the UI than when<br>> using direct finger input.<br>><br><br>i could have sworn that sonyericsson did something similar for a numpad
<br>with their P800...<br><br>> Now, what would be novel and cool for the Neo is if we could design a<br>> clip-on device that was also mostly (or completely) transparent, so the<br>> screen could be visible while still providing the tactile interface.
<br>><br>> Keeping some of the various disabilities in mind while designing the Neo<br>> & OpenMoko could really make it a hit in this sector. Pretty much every<br>> phone solution out there for the blind is a real hack job, a system
<br>> capable of catering directly to these folks would be welcome. (FYI, I<br>> work at a school for the blind).<br>><br>> ~Bradley<br>><br>> Chris Palmer wrote:<br>>> Interesting ideas, but I'm not sure that any adequately handle the
<br>>> tactile needs of a touch typist. Without looking at the keys, I can<br>>> feel the nubs on the home keys on my phone's mini qwerty to get lined up<br>>> again. I also have the same concern with using a laser projected
<br>>> keyboard (even tho potentially high on the coolness scale). With just a<br>>> big flat surface then there's no way to keep you lined up on your keys<br>>> at speed. I type pretty fast on my mini qwerty. All my personal email
<br>>> for the last few years have been 99.9% written on this thing, including<br>>> this one.<br>>><br>>> -Chris<br>>><br>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 2:10 pm, Jon Phillips wrote:<br>>>> On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 13:35 -0700, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote:
<br>>>>> Well... for a while I was thinking about implanting a strong magnet<br>>>>> under the skin in one of my fingers to detect alternating current.<br>>>>> There are a few people out there who have done this and they say they
<br>>>>> can feel a very mild wiggle when the magnet comes near a wire carrying<br>>>>> AC. It might be possible to detect the current going through the<br>>>>> touchscreen as you make contact with it.
<br>>>>><br>>>>> But that's probably not a mainstream solution.<br>>>> That sounds like a stelarc solution:<br>>>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelarc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelarc
</a><br>>>><br>>>> What about a glove or thimble that you could put on your finger?<br>>>><br>>>> How much does vibration tech. kill the battery on phones?<br>>>><br>>>> Some type of current detection sounds interesting...
<br>>>><br>>>> Jon<br>>>><br>>>>> On Jun 2, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Jon Phillips wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> > Yes, it seems pretty clear that screens are the way forward rather
<br>>>>> > than<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > moving parts. I've seen a few solutions to the tactile feedback<br>>>>> > issue,<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > with the main being have the phone vibrate slightly upon key press,
<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > along with sounds.<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > Matthew (and others), have you heard of others?<br>>>>> >
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