<div>True.</div>
<div>But there really is a marked beside the mainstream.</div>
<div>The Nokia 770/N800 is the proof.</div>
<div>This devices is not really cheap (about $400), has not many abilities (no GSM, no DVB, no keyboard, only WiFi) but it sold good enough to continue the productline.</div>
<div>OpenMoko can do that better. Every linux-fan must have such a phone. Every opensource-fan, too. As soon there is some more additional software available for OpenMoko the Neo will probably be the most useful smartphone out there.
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<div>The possibilities with the GTA02 hardware will be amazing.</div>
<div>Let's hope FIC will release GTA01 for all developers and interested people soon - that definatly will cause a solid increase of available software.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/6/7, Tim Newsom <<a href="mailto:cephdon@gmail.com">cephdon@gmail.com</a>>:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">You and *I* feel that way... But the general public will be taking stock<br>of the appearance and ease of use etc...
<br><br>Besides.. I mentioned it so that we can take a look at the view some<br>general person my have of a new device and see how we can improve upon<br>any weaknesses. There will be no shortage of devices competing for the
<br>top spot... And against the iphone.<br>Many, Many all touchscreen devices will be out there.. And we are not<br>going to be first... So we can at least acknowledge the competition and<br>work to improve what we can.<br>
<br>--Tim<br><br>On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:18, Thomas Gstädtner wrote:<br>> There already was Samsung phones with HSDPA support which was slower<br>> than normal UMTS phones of other manufacturers.<br>> Also flash lite might be good looking, but it is definately no
<br>> smartphone platform. At least you cannot use the UI for additional apps<br>> (must be an overlay).<br>> The display resolution is very poor for a such big screen.<br>><br>> For me this devices is pretty uninteresting, and even if it'd be able
<br>> to run openmoko that wouldn't matter for me.<br>> Why should I give my money to a company that doesn't support opensource<br>> only to use their hardware with hacks and openmoko?<br>> Let's hope OpenMoko and the FIC Neo1973 will be successful and FIC
<br>> produces more open phones in future.<br>><br>> 2007/6/7, Tim Newsom <<a href="mailto:cephdon@gmail.com">cephdon@gmail.com</a> >:<br>><br>>> Hmm... I thought it listed wifi and bluetooth on samsungs website...
<br>>> --Tim<br>>> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 8:57, Mark McClellan wrote:<br>>>> nice. very nice.<br>>>> i really hope this is close to the Moko v2 hardware. it's what i'm<br>>>> waiting for....
<br>>>><br>>>> Mark<br>>>><br>>>> On 6/7/07, Eric Heinemann < <a href="mailto:e_heinemann@yahoo.com">e_heinemann@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>> If I remember correctly, the F700 is using a Flash lite interface.
<br>>>>> Even though it does not have WiFi, it does have 7.2M HSDPA :) I am<br>>>>> pretty sure it does have bluetooth though. Look here:<br>>>>><br>>>>> <a href="http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_f700-1849.php">
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_f700-1849.php</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> or here:<br>>>>><br>>>>> <a href="http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-SGH-F700-phone-p_1941.html">http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-SGH-F700-phone-p_1941.html
</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> -Eric<br>>>>><br>>>>> ----- Original Message ----<br>>>>> From: Steven ** <<a href="mailto:montgoss+openmokocommunity@gmail.com">montgoss+openmokocommunity@gmail.com
</a>><br>>>>> To: Openmoko < <a href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a>><br>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 9:44:30 AM<br>>>>> Subject: Re: Yet another contender in the market?
<br>>>>><br>>>>> The wallpaper on the F700 from the first Google result (<br>>>>> <a href="http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/apple-iphone-vs-samsung-f700-which-is-touchscreenier-235112.php">
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/apple-iphone-vs-samsung-f700-which-is-touchscreenier-235112.php</a><br>>>>> ) is a total rip-off of the Ubuntu default theme. I doubt that<br>>>>> they're actually running Ubuntu (although I think Ubuntu is getting
<br>>>>> into the mobile market).<br>>>>><br>>>>> The features don't really seem comparable. No wifi and no bluetooth.<br>>>>> And the screen is even smaller and lower resolution than the iPhone.
<br>>>>><br>>>>> -Steven<br>>>>><br>>>>> On 6/7/07, Tim Newsom < <a href="mailto:cephdon@gmail.com">cephdon@gmail.com</a> > wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>>> Has anyone else seen the samsung F700?
<br>>>>>> Its features are pretty nice... No idea on the OS but I would<br>>>>>> definitly<br>>>>>> take one over an IPhone... If it performs anything like it looks...<br>>>>>> Hehe.
<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Its got very good specs.<br>>>>>> --Tim<br>>>>><br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>><br>>>>> OpenMoko community mailing list
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<br>>>><br>>>> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0<br>>> --Tim<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> OpenMoko community mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">
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