The fact that you are subscribed to 20 different mailing lists and you would find it difficult to read all of that information on 20 different forum UIs is your issue, and it is not the responsibility of this community to address.
<br><br>To state, axiomatically, that mailing lists are more efficient is to attempt proof by assertion.<br><br>The goal is communication, not rightness. How is communication best served?<br><br>--Dan<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 7/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andreas Kostyrka</b> <<a href="mailto:andreas@kostyrka.org">andreas@kostyrka.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>No, it's just habits. And it's not about Engineers, it's about long time<br> email users. (I mean the generation before the invention of the "http<br>
protocol". If one can consider HTTP 0.9 to be a protocol ;) )<br><br>And yes, email is important to these old timers. Mailing lists are quite<br>well standardized, there are less than half a dozen mailing list<br>management packages that matter, and even these have mostly the same
<br>behaviour. I'm subscribed on more than 20 mailing lists (most of these<br>in the Linux/Python/PostgreSQL realm), that I follow more or less<br>depending upon work pressure. I can keep a tab on these mailing lists,
<br>because they use a standard interface.<br><br>Navigating 20 different "forums", is not feasible:<br><br>- -) I need to actively pull information. That's time I could be already<br>using to read messages.
<br><br>- -) the UI of forums is really not uniform. I need to join, login<br>(depending upon the forum and my browser setting each time, every 2<br>weeks, never), manage to find if new messages that might interest me, ...
<br><br>- -) the UI of mailing lists is my known standard mail client.<br><br>You can see the difference, e.g. my wife participates in a forum based<br>cooking community. Notice: "relative newcomer" (less than a decade
<br>Internet experience), 1 community (not dozens of mailing lists needed).<br><br>Basically, mailing lists are more efficient. Not necessarily easy on<br>newbies. (And yes, efficient does not mean easy. Efficient is measured
<br>in units like "transaction" per "time unit". And I can clearly "process"<br>(or decide not to "process") more messages per hour in my mailer than<br>with my browser)<br><br>Andreas
<br><br>Daniel Robinson wrote:<br>> What is it about engineers that they act like any idea other than theirs<br>> is not worthy of consideration?<br>><br>> I don't know any of you, and I am only responding to this email because
<br>> it is typical of the kind of traffic that has been going back and forth<br>> about this issue.<br>><br>> Don't build your house on ice? This is typical of the dismissiveness<br>> with which people have responded about this issue. The straw man being
<br>> used here, that wanting one position or the other is as meritorious as<br>> building one's house on ice, is not valid. It smacks of sanctimony and<br>> that should be avoided.<br>><br>><br>><br>
> On 7/24/07, *Ted Lemon* <<a href="mailto:mellon@fugue.com">mellon@fugue.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mellon@fugue.com">mellon@fugue.com</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> > Quite frankly I am completely, totally,
<br>> > overwhelmingly baffled at the resistance to the forums. Quite a few<br>> > people have expressed their dislikes of mailing lists and how they<br>> were<br>> > *very* reluctant (like myself) to join.
<br>><br>> Worrying about your email address being exposed is pretty silly.<br>> That's like worrying that the ice on a pond will break when it melts in<br>> the spring and your house will fall in. Don't build your house on
<br>> ice.<br>><br>> As for forums, they are very nice for casual use. They are terrible<br>> for staying in touch, unless you visit them obsessively. The nice<br>> thing about a mailing list is that the mail keeps arriving in your
<br>> inbox, you see it go by, and you can pay attention or not as you choose.<br>> And if you miss something, it's easy to go back and find it.<br>><br>> Forums aren't bad - they're just different. I think it would be great
<br>> if the casual traffic migrated to a forum.<br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> OpenMoko community mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">
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