On 7/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">wim delvaux</b> <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 02:08:32 Daniel Robinson wrote:<br>> I already use my browser to read my email. I use Gmail to handle the mail<br>> from my domain. I can read it at home, at the coffee house or at my day<br>
> job.<br><br>great for you but AFAIK almost all ISP offer reading mail from their web page<br>so GMAIL, hotmail, yahoo etc are all obsolete.</blockquote><div><br>I also use gmail to collect the mail from various pop3 servers, so I can read them at home, in the other flat, at work or at work, gmail has a very good spam filter and also the labelling is really cool. But that's not tht point.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">><br>> The argument that you have to start your browser seems thin to me. What is
<br>> a mail reader if not an application as complex as a browser?<br><br>well most mail readers are integrated in your desktop and impose far less<br>overhead when checking for email. Also you can do nice filtering and other
<br>scanning for stuff. Also YOU control your email box and not the application<br>that your 'web'-mail provider has made available to you.</blockquote><div><br>The point is: most people just start their mail client, read their mail
and close it. So it#s like starting the browser, reading the forum and
closing it. </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">><br>> A forum allows the _writer_ to sort the posting. I have yet to find an
<br>> email filtering program that does works in a more than rudimentary fashion.<br>> A forum can be searched for keywords in much the same way that an email<br>> list can be searched.<br><br>I do not get that ... what do you mean by the 'writer' and sorting ? my mail
<br>application (Kontact of KDE) allows searching for ANY data in ANY part of the<br>mail (body subject etc)</blockquote><div><br>Ok, in a forum i can post in the category "Developemnt" subcategory "Applications" subcategory "Graphics". Or "Community-> Marketing->Advertisment". And if you don't want to read a category, you simply skip it. And every half decent forum has a built-int search, per title, author, timerange, content, categroy, etc.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">><br>> Posts stay on a forum. Much of the email on this list goes into the bit
<br>> bucket for me. Advertising? Marketing? We don't have a working phone<br>> yet.<br><br>Well most mailing lists collect the email too. All mailing lists I have<br>subscribed to have a page on which you can scan through the archive.
</blockquote><div><br>That's true, but scanning through a mailing list can be really annoying if you're not familiar with the system. and moste people aren't.<br></div><br><br>So I like the mailing list system, but I read my mail 3 times a day. If some normal user, maybe 56k connection, who connects 2 times a week, has to stay online a hour just to download the las 187 mails from the list, this isn't really the best solution. For development work, the list is perfect. But for support/community not. IMO the comminity list should be changed into a forum, with a good category structure, ant the development lists should stay
here.Then every decent forum allows to recive e-mails on new threads, and also posting per mail shouldnt be difficult to achieve with a bit of a hacjing around with phpbb (or wathever we would like to use). The point is that most aren't really intrested in reading everything that's posted, but if you post on a mailing list, you have to download all the mail to know if someone answerd your question.
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