ok-for hardware and software concerns, how can we donate an idea to the public, to guarantee the inability of someone patenting the idea?<br><br>Something above just mentioning it on a public/mediated ml.<br><br>In addition, could you publicly state your idea to "timestamp" it for patenting?
<br><br>-Kyle<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 3, 2007 4:49 AM, Al Johnson <<a href="mailto:openmoko@mazikeen.demon.co.uk">openmoko@mazikeen.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Remember this varies with national legislation. In the UK there is AFAIK no 1<br>year grace period; public disclosure instantly renders the invention<br>unpatentable.<br><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>On Sunday 02 December 2007, Clayton Jones wrote:
<br>> Just a quick note based on all the patent research i've done:<br>> Any disclosure in a public forum, whether limited in distribution or<br>> not, is considered "public disclosure". As a matter of fact, telling
<br>> anyone your idea (other than the people who are co-inventors) is<br>> considered "public disclosure".<br>> However, that does NOT preclude you from filing a patent - all it does<br>> is limit the amount of time you have to file a patent.
<br>> Once public disclosure is made, you have 1 year to file an application<br>> with the US Patent office. After that, it's considered that you've<br>> given up any rights to patent.<br>><br>> However, in practical terms it's more difficult to prove original
<br>> invention once disclosure is made unles you keep a detailed, dated<br>> notebook (in ink).<br>><br>> On Dec 1, 2007 12:23 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl <<a href="mailto:gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch">gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch
</a>> wrote:<br>> > On Saturday 01 December 2007 08:34:08 GWMobile wrote:<br>> > > I don't think discussing this here would be considered an open<br>> > > disclosure.<br>> > > Talking on a finite list or limited membership with moderation and thus
<br>> > > controlled membership is not necessarily open disclosure and not the<br>> > > same as a public printing therefore I think it would still be<br>> > > patentable.<br>> ><br>> > You are aware that most mailing lists are archived and indexed by Google,
<br>> > aren't you?<br>> ><br>> > By every sane meaning of "public", this is public.<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > OpenMoko community mailing list
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