sorry, missed some of the topic shift, but again, there&#39;s that youtube video posted previously showing something extremely similar<br><br>It&#39;s also interesting that this could work more like a pre-shared key... we don&#39;t have to use asynchronous crypto since both devices could generate the same key off of the &quot;shake pattern&quot;
<br><br>the challenge in doing this is determining when the &quot;shake&quot; starts to get everything synchronized<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/3/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Randall Mason</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:lists@mason.ch">
lists@mason.ch</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Actually, I don&#39;t think &quot;shoogle&quot; mentioned the pairing-shaking
security idea.&nbsp; I thought that they were only creating non visual user
interfaces to things like number of SMSs and battery charge.&nbsp; The main
similarity is shaking, which maracas and rainsticks both clearly have
prior art on these ideas.
<br><br>Randall<br><br><div><div><span class="e" id="q_116a0f8e57c77b4f_1"><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/3/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jeff Andros</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:jeff@bigredtj.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
jeff@bigredtj.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><span class="e" id="q_116a0f8e57c77b4f_3">

um, is anyone that&#39;s replied on this thread a member of the University of Glasgow team that developed the software(shoogle)?&nbsp; I&#39;m guessing not.&nbsp; it has obviously already been invented, which means that disclosure arguments are rendered moot by prior art.&nbsp; Moreover, trying to patent something that someone else invented is theft of intellectual property... preventing this is one of the reasons the GPL exists.&nbsp; If you want to go forward on this, check with the authors(see below for contact information) they&#39;d probably be delighted to have community help in developing it.
<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br></blockquote></div>Authors(taken from <a href="http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/%7Erod/publications/WilMurHug07Interactive.pdf" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">


http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~rod/publications/WilMurHug07Interactive.pdf</a> ):<br>John Williamson<br>Dept. Computing Science<br>University of Glasgow<br>Glasgow G!2 8QQ, UK<br><a href="mailto:jhw@dcs.gla.ac.uk" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">

jhw@dcs.gla.ac.uk
</a><br><br>Roderick Murray-Smith<br>Dept. Computing Science<br>University of Glasgow<br>Glasgow G!2 8QQ, UK<br>and<br>Hamilton Institute<br>National University of Ireland<br>Maynooth, Ireland<br><a href="mailto:rod@dcs.gla.ac.uk" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">


rod@dcs.gla.ac.uk</a><br><br>Stephen Hughes<br>Dept. Computing Science<br>University of Glasgow<br>Glasgow G!2 8QQ, UK<br>and<br>SAMH Engineering<br clear="all"><span><br>-- <br>Jeff<br>O|||||||O
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