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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Exactly, Jeff didn’t read the
actual email (or doesn’t understand Patents).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Dean Collins<br>
Cognation Pty Ltd<br>
<a href="mailto:dean@cognation.net" title="mailto:dean@cognation.net">dean@cognation.net</a> <br>
<u1:dial u2:st="on">+1-212-203-4357<br>
</u1:dial><u1:dial u2:st="on">+61-2-9016-5642</u1:dial> (<u3:City u2:st="on"><u3:place u2:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sydney</u3:place></u3:City></st1:place></st1:City>
in-dial).</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Randall Mason<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 03, 2007
12:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> List for <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OpenMoko</st1:PersonName> community discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: need someone to
develop this....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Actually, I don't think
"shoogle" mentioned the pairing-shaking security idea. I
thought that they were only creating non visual user interfaces to things like
number of SMSs and battery charge. The main similarity is shaking, which
maracas and rainsticks both clearly have prior art on these ideas. <br>
<br>
Randall<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 12/3/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Jeff
Andros</span></b> <<a href="mailto:jeff@bigredtj.com">jeff@bigredtj.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>um, is anyone that's replied on this thread a member of the <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> team that developed the
software(shoogle)? I'm guessing not. it has obviously already been
invented, which means that disclosure arguments are rendered moot by prior
art. Moreover, trying to patent something that someone else invented is
theft of intellectual property... preventing this is one of the reasons the GPL
exists. If you want to go forward on this, check with the authors(see
below for contact information) they'd probably be delighted to have community
help in developing it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Authors(taken from <a
href="http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/%7Erod/publications/WilMurHug07Interactive.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~rod/publications/WilMurHug07Interactive.pdf</a>
):<br>
John Williamson<br>
Dept. Computing Science<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
<st1:City w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:City> G!2 8QQ, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
<a href="mailto:jhw@dcs.gla.ac.uk" target="_blank">jhw@dcs.gla.ac.uk </a><br>
<br>
Roderick Murray-Smith<br>
Dept. Computing Science<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
<st1:City w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:City> G!2 8QQ, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
and<br>
Hamilton Institute<br>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">National</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ireland</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Maynooth</st1:City>, <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Ireland</st1:country-region></st1:place><br>
<a href="mailto:rod@dcs.gla.ac.uk" target="_blank">rod@dcs.gla.ac.uk</a><br>
<br>
Stephen Hughes<br>
Dept. Computing Science<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
<st1:City w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:City> G!2 8QQ, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
and<br>
SAMH Engineering<br clear=all>
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<span class=sg>-- </span><br>
<span class=sg>Jeff</span><br>
<span class=sg>O|||||||O </span><br>
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<br>
-- <br>
Randall Mason<br>
<a href="mailto:randall@mason.ch">randall@mason.ch</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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