I am not sure but...<br><br>Does it means that you want to finish the stock because the new version GTA02 is comming soon? If the answer is YES, this would be a good advance for the project. I am fairly sure that a lot of people, like me, are waiting to have wifi and a more functional device to get one.<br>
<br>Cheers<br>--<br>JuanLu<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2008/1/29, rakshat hooja <<a href="mailto:rakshat@gmail.com">rakshat@gmail.com</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi,<br>Just checking if all Neo 1973 basic kits been sold out. Will more devices be made avaliable?<br><br>Rakshat<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 29, 2008 2:17 AM, <<a href="mailto:community-request@lists.openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">community-request@lists.openmoko.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:20:21 -0500 (EST)<br>Subject: Nokia to acquire Trolltech to accelerate software strategy<br>I think the whole point of this takeover is Qtopia. Yes, the Nokia N800<br>series internet tablet uses Maemo (based on gtk). Correct me if I'm wrong<br>
but aren't most of Nokia's cell phones running Symbian? Maybe buying<br>Trolltech is cheaper than continually licensing Symbian? Plus they have a<br>hell of lot more control in the direction of Qtopia & Qt.<br>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:32:58 +0000 (UTC)<br>Subject: Openmoko - opportunity to have collective "community" server side assistance<br>Hi community<br><br>right now OM is just getting established....<br>but its fun to think ahead.... :-)<br>
<br>articles like this one highlight the role of server side apps to help mobile<br>devices with high load tasks.<br><br><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/28/skyfire-browser-for-windows-mobile-is-game-changing-does-flash/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/28/<br>
skyfire-browser-for-windows-mobile-is-game-changing-does-flash/</a><br><br>I am not sure but perhaps their business model is to offer a subscription<br>service to users.<br><br>we can already see examples of other lower load apps for example thumbtribes<br>
(early stage beta see youtube)<br><br>there are many, many more coming i am sure.... perhaps whenever you move down a<br>road that is not in OpenStreetMap in the future data will automatically be<br>collected....<br><br>
one way the community could help to develop these services is to collectively<br>
provide a place for developers to host these services so that they are provided<br>* cheaply<br>* fast<br>* always available<br>* secure/easy login for nominated developers<br>* funded by donation?<br><br>the advantages of having this all on "OpenMokoServer" will really draw the<br>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:31:12 +0100<br>Subject: Re: Nokia to acquire Trolltech to accelerate software strategy<br>About 50% of Symbian are owned by Nokia.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/28/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Patrick Davila</b> <<a href="mailto:pdavila@thelinuxlink.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">pdavila@thelinuxlink.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I think the whole point of this takeover is Qtopia. Yes, the Nokia N800<br>series internet tablet uses Maemo (based on gtk). Correct me if I'm wrong<br>but aren't most of Nokia's cell phones running Symbian? Maybe buying<br>
Trolltech is cheaper than continually licensing Symbian? Plus they have a<br>hell of lot more control in the direction of Qtopia & Qt.<br><br>Pat<br><br><br>--<br><a href="http://tllts.org/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://tllts.org/</a> - The Linux Link Tech Show<br>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:22:59 +0100<br>Subject: Re: Nokia to acquire Trolltech to accelerate software strategy<br>Patrick Davila wrote:<br>> I think the whole point of this takeover is Qtopia. Yes, the Nokia N800<br>
> series internet tablet uses Maemo (based on gtk). Correct me if I'm wrong<br>> but aren't most of Nokia's cell phones running Symbian? Maybe buying<br>> Trolltech is cheaper than continually licensing Symbian?<br>
Maybe not. But it's way more modern and flexible. *g*<br><br>There are versions of symbian out there which deserve the name operating<br>system. But nobody uses them AFAIK.<br>And as good as nobody makes software for symbian.<br>
<br>I would haveloved if they went to the maemo platform. But qtopia is<br>probably really the better choice for a phone.<br><br>Regards<br> Tilman<br><br><br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Jeffrey Thomas <<a href="mailto:eljefedelito@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">eljefedelito@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><br>Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:59:50 -0600<br>Subject: Re: Nokia to acquire Trolltech to accelerate software strategy<br>
> But qtopia is<br>
> probably really the better choice for a phone.<br><br>And yet OpenMoko is using GTK <<shudder>><br><br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Michael Shiloh <<a href="mailto:michael@openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">michael@openmoko.org</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: Power Management on Neo1973<br><br>
<br>Fredrik Markström wrote:<br>> Michael, any progress on this issue ?<br><br>Hi Fredrik,<br><br>Sorry, not yet. I'm afraid this is not at the top of the priorities<br>right now. We recognize that it is highly important but our main focus<br>
is always on getting GTA02 out.<br><br>Hopefully shortly we will be able to address this.<br><br>Michael<br><br><br>Will the GTA-01 ever be usable as<br>> an everyday-phone, or<br>> is the hardware to broken ?<br>><br>
> /Fredrik<br>><br>> On Jan 14, 2008 8:24 PM, Michael Shiloh <<a href="mailto:michael@openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">michael@openmoko.org</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michael@openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">michael@openmoko.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>><br>><br>> Tim Niemeyer wrote:<br>><br>> > On another Thread was this:<br>> > ---<br>> > And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new<br>> firmware will<br>
> > also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused<br>> by the<br>> > firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix.<br>> ><br>> > Can anybody from Openmoko please answer this firmware-pm question?<br>
> ><br>> > Tim Niemeyer<br>><br>> I will add this to my todo list.<br>><br>> Michael<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> OpenMoko community mailing list<br>
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Subject: Re: Power Management on Neo1973<br>
<br>Just curious how you can be certain this issue has been resolved in GTA02<br>if you cannot answer this question?<br><br>If you dont know how GTA01 can be fixed, how do you know GTA02 is fixed?<br>Or maybe GTA02 has this same issue?<br>
<br>please advise<br><br><br>><br>><br>> Fredrik Markström wrote:<br>>> Michael, any progress on this issue ?<br>><br>> Hi Fredrik,<br>><br>> Sorry, not yet. I'm afraid this is not at the top of the priorities<br>
> right now. We recognize that it is highly important but our main focus<br>> is always on getting GTA02 out.<br>><br>> Hopefully shortly we will be able to address this.<br>><br>> Michael<br>><br>><br>
> Will the GTA-01 ever be usable as<br>>> an everyday-phone, or<br>>> is the hardware to broken ?<br>>><br>>> /Fredrik<br>>><br>>> On Jan 14, 2008 8:24 PM, Michael Shiloh <<a href="mailto:michael@openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">michael@openmoko.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michael@openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">michael@openmoko.org</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Tim Niemeyer wrote:<br>
>><br>>> > On another Thread was this:<br>
>> > ---<br>>> > And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new<br>>> firmware will<br>>> > also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused<br>
>> by the<br>>> > firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix.<br>>> ><br>>> > Can anybody from Openmoko please answer this firmware-pm<br>>> question?<br>
>> ><br>>> > Tim Niemeyer<br>>><br>>> I will add this to my todo list.<br>>><br>>> Michael<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:44:58 -0500 (EST)<br>Subject: Re: Power Management on Neo1973<br><br>Just curious how you can be certain this issue has been resolved in GTA02<br>if you cannot answer this question?<br><br>If you dont know how GTA01 can be fixed, how do you know GTA02 is fixed?<br>
Or maybe GTA02 has this same issue?<br><br>please advise<br><br><br>><br>><br>> Fredrik Markström wrote:<br>>> Michael, any progress on this issue ?<br>><br>> Hi Fredrik,<br>><br>> Sorry, not yet. I'm afraid this is not at the top of the priorities<br>
> right now. We recognize that it is highly important but our main focus<br>> is always on getting GTA02 out.<br>><br>> Hopefully shortly we will be able to address this.<br>><br>> Michael<br>><br>><br>
> Will the GTA-01 ever be usable as<br>>> an everyday-phone, or<br>>> is the hardware to broken ?<br>>><br>>> /Fredrik<br>>><br>>> On Jan 14, 2008 8:24 PM, Michael Shiloh <<a href="mailto:michael@openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">michael@openmoko.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michael@openmoko.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">michael@openmoko.org</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Tim Niemeyer wrote:<br>
>><br>>> > On another Thread was this:<br>
>> > ---<br>>> > And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new<br>>> firmware will<br>>> > also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused<br>
>> by the<br>>> > firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix.<br>>> ><br>>> > Can anybody from Openmoko please answer this firmware-pm<br>>> question?<br>
>> ><br>>> > Tim Niemeyer<br>>><br>>> I will add this to my todo list.<br>>><br>>> Michael<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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