Hello Schmidt,<br><br>For me it is not a problem to use Java in stead of Mono, I use to develop in Java but my curiosity for Mono is only to learn it, just that.<br><br>About what I want to develop I am not sure at all, may be I should start joining an existent project at least to learn how to develop for this device. Actually I am usign the emulator because I don´t have a neo either.<br>
<br><br>Cheers<br><br>
<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2008/2/1, Schmidt András <<a href="mailto:asch@freemail.hu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">asch@freemail.hu</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Juan,<br><br> From technology side Java and C# is so similar that they should do the<br>same performance. It is only Microsoft who is hyping that C# performs<br>better. The only difference I know and has performance effect is the<br>
presence of structures in C# but not many programs would make an<br>advantage of that.<br><br>The performance of a specific implementation is a different question...<br>I have no clue how Cacao compares to Mono. It would worth measuring...<br>
I have some experience with both languages as I am developing a map<br>viewer application (<a href="http://yamamap.wiki.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://yamamap.wiki.sourceforge.net/</a>) that has a<br>
Mono and a Java version as well. The software is intended to work on<br>
OpenMoko.<br><br>Both Mono and Java are available for OpenMoko. These are my own experiences:<br><br>Mono:<br>I have no phone yet, but David Roetzel has tried to run the yama<br>application on the phone and it worked. In the mail there is a link to<br>
the original post, where Cliff Brake announces that the mono framework<br>is ported for OpenMoko:<br><a href="http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-December/012125.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-December/012125.html</a><br>
<br>Java:<br>The Jalimo (<a href="https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page</a>) project<br>
addresses porting Java SE to the phone. The JVM is Cacao and the<br>
classpath is the GNU classpath (Sebastian Mancke has written some<br>guidelines for Java development on OpenMoko:<br><a href="http://lists.evolvis.org/pipermail/jalimo-info/2008-January/000028.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://lists.evolvis.org/pipermail/jalimo-info/2008-January/000028.html</a>).<br>
Cacao is compatible with Java 6 binaries and the GNU classpath is aiming<br>the Java5 classpath. There are some details missing yet but it is<br>possible to get a general purpose application that works with them.<br>Latest versions of Yama works with GNU classpath but it was not tested<br>
on a GTA01 phone yet.<br><br>So both Mono and Java is available on the phone. What I wanted to<br>suggest is to consider using Java in case you know both technologies.<br><br>I am so curious, may I ask you what are you planning to develop for the<br>
OpenMoko platform?<br><br>Hope I could help you<br><br>Schmidt András<br><br><br>Juan Luis Prieto Martinez wrote:<br>> Hi all,<br>><br>> I am very interesting in developing something for openmoko in mono,<br>> but I think that is not very popular at the moment, at least there<br>
> aren´t so many comments about this theme in the list or the wiki. I<br>> would like to know if some of you have tried to develop anything using<br>> Mono. And if you need any special plugin or framework to do that.<br>
><br>> At least from my point of view the use of C# could be as interesting<br>> as the use of C or C++ and tools should be faster than python or java.<br>><br>> Thanks<br>><br>> Best Regards.<br>><br>
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