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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Lowell</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The phone will ship with a wall charger. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Lowell Higley<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 14, 2008 12:58
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">List
for Openmoko community discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Charger? (was: Re:
FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think I'm going to have
to completely disagree on this one. I RARELY plug anything into a
computer to simply charge it. I'd venture almost never. The idea
that I HAVE to plug a device into a computer to charge it is completely ridiculous
to me. I'd bet my experience as a product marketer that consumers would feel
similarly. My expectation of a cell phone (based on precedent) is that I
get a wall charger with my phone. Even Apple didn't break this precedent
with the iPhone. You can plug it into a cradle (connecting to a system),
a wall charger, or a vehicle accessory charger.<br>
<br>
That being said, I don't know whether this "custom charger" is just a
modified USB cable or an actual wall charger. Again, based on precedent,
my expectation was that it was a wall charger. Thinking about it now I
realize that perhaps that was not a good assumption to make.<br>
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Just my 4 1/2 cents.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Marcus Bauer <<a
href="mailto:marcus.bauer@gmail.com">marcus.bauer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote:<br>
> 2008/4/14, steve <<a href="mailto:steve@openmoko.com">steve@openmoko.com</a>>:<br>
> 1. We have a custom charger that can
fast charge the phone.<br>
> 2. Standard usb chargers will work just
fine.<br>
><br>
> How long will charging the phone take with the fast charger vs. a<br>
> normal charger?<br>
><br>
> If a standard USB charger will take on the order of 12 hours (1200 mAh<br>
> battery / 100 mA, probably more due <100% efficiency), that is really<br>
> borderline of what sounds acceptable, if an overnight charge won't be<br>
> enough to fully charge the phone.<br>
<br>
There have been plenty of discussions about this on the lists and the<br>
great news is that the Neo can use any USB charger.<br>
<br>
I have a Neo 1973 and use it on a daily basis. The great thing is that<br>
you don't need any special charger, you can use any $5 charger and it<br>
works. There is a small program out there that can pop up a dialog<br>
whenever it sees the Neo only charging at 100mA and asking if you want<br>
to draw 500mA.<br>
<br>
It really is a non issue. I have a couple of those chargers for<br>
home/office/car/travel and they all work and charge plenty of other<br>
devices too. IMHO a great design decision to use USB for charging.<br>
Finally there is an end coming to have all these different chargers<br>
around.<br>
<br>
So I just can second Steve:<br>
"2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine."<br>
<br>
Marcus<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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