<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2008/4/19, Kevin Dean <<a href="mailto:kevin@foreverdean.info">kevin@foreverdean.info</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have to say, I'm baffled by that sentiment. GTA02v5 is fully<br> functional, the only "problem" is that it's not as efficient as it<br> could be, just like every other product on the planet.<br> <br> For those saying "wait another month" I've got a different arguement -<br>
let's NOT hire people to make the changes, purchase the equipment<br> needed to do it. If a missing transistor is really upsetting someone<br> that much, the open nature of Openmoko works in your favor because you<br>
can wait until the units you consider "defective" are sold out. I, for<br> one, don't want to pay the costs (and I will, if Openmoko decides to<br> wait and add the transistor for goodwill) that will be incurred and<br>
spread over the rest of the product line. I'm QUITE happy to take a v5<br> and go along on my merry way.<br> <br> It is quite possible to make your statement by NOT purchasing a v5<br> unit and waiting for a v6. Choosing to wait yourself, without passing<br>
the delay and costs onto everyone else is the most ethical, polite way<br> to solve the problem.</blockquote><div><br>I don't know if it's possible to explicitly choose a GTA02v5 or a GTA02v6 at the buying moment...<br>
if someone will tell us something about this I'll be more quiet...:)<br>I'm very happy that someone is going to buy a bugged hw (although barely), but remember that battery lifetime is (and probably will always be) a critical issue for Freerunners, and personally I don't want to buy an hw revision that increase these issues...(knowing that there is a better one around the corner)<br>
<br>Regards<br>Andrea Debortoli<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -Kevin<br> <br><br> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Steven Le Roux <<a href="mailto:steven@le-roux.info">steven@le-roux.info</a>> wrote:<br>
> I totally agree with you.<br> ><br> > I understand everybody is happy to see the neo coming, but don't forget the<br> > goal :) : to provides the best free phones.<br> ><br> > It wouldn't be pleasant for us to by a phone, knowing there is a known issue<br>
> with optimisation of power consumption and LED stuff..<br> ><br> > I understand the rush ;) but we can wait...<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Ron K. Jeffries <<a href="mailto:rjeffries@gmail.com">rjeffries@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br> > ><br> > ><br> > ><br> > > OpenMoko team:<br> > ><br> > > It's crazy to consider shipping the GTA02v5 without the rework<br> > > to solve the current leakage issue.<br>
> ><br> > > Yes, people are REALLY anxious to get this phone. But shipping<br> > > a few thousand of units that do not meet spec on standby time<br> > > is a Bad Idea.<br> > ><br> > > pull up your socks and do the rework<br>
> > if that delays launch by 30 days so be it.<br> > > besides the firmware will be better by then as well. ;)<br> > ><br> > > -ron jeffries.<br> > ><br> > > CONTEXT:<br> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> > From: "Shawn Rutledge" <<a href="mailto:shawn.t.rutledge@gmail.com">shawn.t.rutledge@gmail.com</a>><br> > > To: "List for Openmoko community discussion"<br> > <<a href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a>><br>
> > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:30:59 -0700<br> > > Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future<br> > Button and LED software spec)<br> > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:quatrox@gmail.com">quatrox@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > > > It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a<br> > little<br> > > > electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start soldering!<br>
> > ><br> > > ><br> > > > Does anybody know if the fix Werner is talking about, will be done for<br> > all<br> > > > GTA02v5 PCB's? If it really will be a fix for it, it will not be any<br>
> problem<br> > > > at all.<br> > ><br> > > Yes maybe it can be fixed. But is the fix documented yet?<br> > ><br> > > Another way to look at it: if the fix can be done without a PCB<br>
> > change, then why not get the factory to do the rework (swapping<br> > > transistors or whatever) before they are shipped? How much would it<br> > > cost to get that done in China?<br> > ><br>
> > --<br> > > Ron K. Jeffries<br> > > <a href="http://blog.eronj.com">http://blog.eronj.com</a><br> > > <a href="http://twitter.com/RonKJeffries">http://twitter.com/RonKJeffries</a><br> > ><br>
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