I'm a little confused.<br><br>Are you saying to order 1 phone to the US we will have to pay $70 for shipping? That is so expensive! We need to make sure everyone is aware of this, because we must order the 10 packs. I have posted for the Indiana / Kentucky 10 pack.<br>
<br>So if we were to order a 10 pack it would be $160 shipping right? So $16 / phone. So we would get a $30 or $40 discount on the phone and then a $54 discount on the shipping.<br><br>Am I putting this together correctly? You were talking about shipping to the U.S. right?<br>
<br>I say this because I noticed on one line you said to California and on another line I saw shipping with UPS from the US.<br><br>Can you clarify so we can make sure we get our 10 people together.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, steve <<a href="mailto:steve@openmoko.com">steve@openmoko.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Lots of questions.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Let me see if I can help with some basics.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">We ship a 10 Pack to Fremont California.
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Dimensions are 435mm x 371mm x 119mm </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I think the weight is on the order of 3kilo.
An individual box weighs 237 gm.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">The individual box is dimensioned thusly.
178mm x 104mm x 84mm</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">just doing a quick check from UPS the
shipment from the US
for a single phone would be on the order of 70 USD</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">For 10 phones the bulk is on the order of
160USD, which mean 16USD per customer.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I picked a random EU city to just get a
sense of things.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">EU hub will happen in due course. When the
costs of hubbing in the EU benefit our end users.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Steve</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org" target="_blank">community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Erland Lewin<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:06
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> List for Openmoko community
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Shipping questions,
customer organized distribution in Europe</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">In preparation for The
Big Day, I have some questions about how the shipping from OpenMoko will work.<br>
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How much does one package (with a single phone) weigh (approximately)? What
will its dimensions be?<br>
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There's been talk about a hub in Europe, has
that idea been scrubbed? IF not, will it be in place in time for the first
shipments?<br>
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When ordering directly from OpenMoko to Europe,
how much will shipping cost for a 10-pack? Would that package come from the US, China
or Taiwan
(just curious)? How much would shipping be for 24 10-packs (approximately 235
phones have been noted for Europe on the
Community purchase wiki page)?<br>
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If OpenMoko doesn't set up a hub in Europe, I
wonder if it would make sense for us consumers to do our own hub-like
distribution. Using prices from the Swedish postal service (which is probably
not one of the cheapest in Europe), if a single phone package weighs between
500 g and 1 kg, it would cost €24 to send as an insured letter to other
European countries. Not all that expensive, I think. <br>
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Distribution would probably be even less expensive if we order one package to
the country in Europe with the lowest postal rates (maybe combined with a low
VAT), then ship phones to one person in each country in the city/region with
most buyers, who then posts them domestically to each buyer in other parts of
his country, and maybe hands them out to buyers in his own city. <br>
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The biggest difficulty would probably be that this would involve a lot of money
(over 50 kEUR), and increase the trust required for all this to work. How much
we would save on the shipping would be a factor involved in whether this would
be worth the trouble. <br>
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Buying directly from OpenMoko would probably not provide us with a particularly
good guarantee, so some European buyers might prefer to buy from European
resellers.<br>
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If we could get the shipping costs (which should be known by now?), we could do
some calculations.<br>
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/Erland</span></font></p>
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