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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What about the optional debug board? How
does that affect these 10 packs and its savings? If you plan on getting a board
and the phone does it still make sense to save on shipping for the phone but
pay it for the board? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Geoff Ruscoe<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 02, 2008 7:50 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> paul@buede.com; List for
Openmoko community discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Shipping Specs for
Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
Midwestarea)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thank you Kevin!<br>
<br>
That is really good news...<br>
<br>
So by setting up a <st1:place w:st="on">Midwest</st1:place> group we're really
just making freerunner friends near by!<br>
<br>
Well that sounds great.&nbsp; So I guess the best reason for a local 10 pack is
being able to all meet and open up the box and not wait for it to be shipped
again.<br>
<br>
Well I'm stoked!<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Paul Buede &lt;<a
href="mailto:paul@buede.com">paul@buede.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If you are in <st1:City w:st="on">Frederick</st1:City>, join our <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Maryland</st1:place></st1:State> purchase group,
I am 30<br>
minutes from you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Kevin Dean wrote:<br>
&gt; Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve<br>
&gt; gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be<br>
&gt; broken up by region.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It costs $14.40 to ship a 10-pack from <st1:City w:st="on">Fremont</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State> to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Frederick</st1:City>,
 <st1:State w:st="on">MD</st1:State></st1:place><br>
&gt; where I live (which is pretty close to &quot;across the country&quot;).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; $3,690 + $14.40 = 3704.4 delivered or $370.44 per phone before shipping.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Here's the beautiful thing. Shipping a single unit (from a 10 pack)<br>
&gt; back, from <st1:City w:st="on">Frederick</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">MD</st1:State>
to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Fremont</st1:City>, <st1:State
 w:st="on">CA</st1:State></st1:place> is $9.95 by UPS Ground which<br>
&gt; would bring the total cost per unit to $380.39.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Assuming that Openmoko's <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Fremont</st1:place></st1:City>
shipping place is NOT getting a<br>
&gt; volume discount then the savings over a single unit would be $28.56 if<br>
&gt; shipped ACROSS COUNTRY both ways.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For fun, I decided what it would cost to ship the unit from home to<br>
&gt; work (as might be done if buying regionally) in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
 w:st="on">Alexandria</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">VA.</st1:State></st1:place>
The<br>
&gt; diffrerence in shipping is barely noticable, that a shipment of less<br>
&gt; than 60 miles makes it less than $2 cheaper.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The point is, I horribly overestimated UPS shipping costs and there's<br>
&gt; actually quite a bit of savings from going in on a 10-pack. That said,<br>
&gt; I also discovered that doing regional purchases doesn't save much<br>
&gt; money over doing national purchases. Guys in groups falling short<br>
&gt; could easily pick up a small group across the country and cash in on<br>
&gt; the bulk savings. People picking up their phones (perhaps at a LUG<br>
&gt; meet) can even score an extra $8 to $10 savings over having it<br>
&gt; shipped.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Neat. :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Dean &lt;<a
href="mailto:kevin@foreverdean.info">kevin@foreverdean.info</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; That's quite useful, thanks!<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico &lt;<a
href="mailto:tdidomenico@gmail.com">tdidomenico@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; I think this is what &nbsp;you're looking for:<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;<a
href="http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html"
target="_blank">http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe &lt;<a
href="mailto:gcruscoe@sigmavisions.com">gcruscoe@sigmavisions.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Its on community for April ... Not sure I
remember which thread.<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean &lt;<a
href="mailto:kevin@foreverdean.info">kevin@foreverdean.info</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven
Kurylo &lt;<a href="mailto:sk@infinitepigeons.org">sk@infinitepigeons.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp;If you search the archives,
Steve already gave us the specs so you<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp;could do this.<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; Can you drop any more hints on where
specifically to find this? I'm<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists
except kernel-dev and even<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; considering that I know it came from Steve,
that's a lot of crap to<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; wade through.<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; Thanks!<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp;--<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp;Steven Kurylo<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&nbsp;_______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp;Openmoko community mailing list<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp;<a
href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp;<a
href="http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; Openmoko community mailing list<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; <a
href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt; <a
href="http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Geoff Ruscoe<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; Sigma Visions Computer Consulting<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;Openmoko community mailing list<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;<a
href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;<a
href="http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;_______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;Openmoko community mailing list<br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;<a href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt; &nbsp;<a
href="http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Openmoko community mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><br>
&gt; <a href="http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community"
target="_blank">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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-- <br>
Geoff Ruscoe<br>
Sigma Visions Computer Consulting <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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