<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Ken Restivo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ken@restivo.org">ken@restivo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:38:07AM +0800, John Lee wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 01:47:29AM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:<br>
> > I'll snip most of it to keep the length reasonable.<br>
><br>
> same here :)<br>
><br>
> > On Tuesday 29 July 2008, William Lai wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > It already is.<br>
> > > We've offered a couple of different solutions to community requests that<br>
> > > were declined by, well, engineering. One of them was:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > * create a package to be installed through installer adding manual<br>
> > > qwerty button to illume theme.<br>
> ><br>
> > The only suggestion I remember was that the community fork illume. Is this a<br>
> > different take on the same suggestion, or a different suggestion? What was<br>
> > the other option? And what was the objection to providing it as a<br>
> > configuration option with the default being off, as proposed on this list?<br>
><br>
><br>
> What we are trying to do:<br>
><br>
> provide a OM repository and a community repository. in this<br>
> particular case, if in the end the illume still shipped without kbd<br>
> button, then the community will very likely provide another version of<br>
> illume called illume-kbd in the community repository. thus you can<br>
> replace the shipped illume with illume-kbd, and the next upgrade will<br>
> get the new version of illume-kbd instead of illume, so you don't need<br>
> to change it again after upgrade.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Where we are right at the moment:<br>
><br>
> illume is there.<br>
><br>
> the community repository is not ready yet but we're working on it.<br>
><br>
> the dependency handling of replacing the shipped illume with<br>
> illume-kbd is not ready yet but we're working on it.<br>
><br>
><br>
> My personal comment on this:<br>
><br>
> if the illume is so much more popular then illume-kdb (theoretically<br>
> we can know that from the repository log) or the other way around then<br>
> you bet that fact will be very effective in OM. ;)<br>
><br>
<br>
</div></div>I bought the FreeRunner in order to:<br>
<br>
1) Use for remote system administration, via a terminal and onscreen keyboards, via SSH over WiFi and GPRS.<br>
2) Browse the web via WiFi and/or GPRS<br>
3) Read/write email using some kind of IMAP mail app, and send/recieve SMS<br>
4) Make and receive calls via VOIP and GSM<br>
5) Play media (Vorbis, MP3, FLV's, MP4's) and record audio<br>
6) Write a custom touchscreen UI app for a linux-based music synthesizer (connecting to the synth via Bluetooth)<br>
7) Maybe run some simple synth applications on the FR, using the USB host mode to connect it to a MIDI keyboard.<br>
<br>
So far, not even the first 5 of those are complete and reliable enough for me to actually use without hassle, and based on what I've read here, I'm estimating about 2 years before they are.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>2 years? At the rate I am seeing progress, I would bet closer to two months, as it seems the ASU and eventual FSO images are coming along quite nicely.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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In the meantime, however, I've realized that I can probably get through the rest of my life happily without *any* of the above features, and I should have waited a few more years before spending so much money.<br>
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-ken<br>
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