<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/8/10 Flyin_bbb8 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:flyin.bbb8@gmail.com">flyin.bbb8@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Hahaha :p<div class="Ih2E3d"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
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</div>iphone geeks :-) (ow, i said it)<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>The funny thing is, in my idealistic brain, I thought geeks shouldn't even want the iPhone... I know I don't want to have anything to do with that closed system. I am truly amazed at how many of the geeks I know actually bought one. I mean it seems like great hardware, but no way I want to get locked into _any_ of apples products. I lose respect for every geek that buys one. (talk about ow, yeah I said it... but I guess they're not reading here anyway)...<br>
<br>And back on topic. I think that the 2008.08 is definitely a major step forward. I have been using it since that morning and have found it to be better than all the others. I think their idea of telling people this is the most stable is because they want everybody on the same page and right now this is it. No sense wondering, "should I stick with 2007.02 or ASU or ..." This is the best we have, please try it...<br>
<br>I think the key thing other than documenting its _beta_ or _developer only_ state is to start improving the build process so that everyone [most of us] can dive right in and get going helping out.<br><br>I really want to help out, but with limited time, I would do a lot better if we had a very easy way to get started doing the development. being able to follow a _simple_ recipe for getting started and running a single script, or make, rake, etc for doing the build would be great. And I think creating everything to work with Eclipse, a _free_ and very _open_ IDE would be a great place to do this.<br>
<br>Here's to checking out a git version of the project and opening it in Eclipse and compiling it!<br><br>Thanks again,<br>Geoff<br><br><br><br>
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