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color=#0000ff size=2> Here is a good start.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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href="http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_Overview">http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_Overview</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>If you want fully functional smart phone, Then
download the Qtopia distribution.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>If you want to help OM develop it's end user applications,
then download 2008.8. It's still Alpha, which</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>means its not feature complete, but it will give you an
idea of the direction we are headed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Geoff
Ruscoe<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:54 AM<BR><B>To:</B> List for
Openmoko community discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 2008
WTF??<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2008/8/10 Flyin_bbb8 <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hahaha :p
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<DIV><BR></DIV>iphone geeks :-) (ow, i said it)<BR>
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<DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>The
funny thing is, in my idealistic brain, I thought geeks shouldn't even want the
iPhone... I know I don't want to have anything to do with that closed
system. I am truly amazed at how many of the geeks I know actually bought
one. I mean it seems like great hardware, but no way I want to get locked
into _any_ of apples products. I lose respect for every geek that buys
one. (talk about ow, yeah I said it... but I guess they're not reading
here anyway)...<BR><BR>And back on topic. I think that the 2008.08 is
definitely a major step forward. I have been using it since that morning
and have found it to be better than all the others. I think their idea of
telling people this is the most stable is because they want everybody on the
same page and right now this is it. No sense wondering, "should I stick
with 2007.02 or ASU or ..." This is the best we have, please try
it...<BR><BR>I think the key thing other than documenting its _beta_ or
_developer only_ state is to start improving the build process so that everyone
[most of us] can dive right in and get going helping out.<BR><BR>I really want
to help out, but with limited time, I would do a lot better if we had a very
easy way to get started doing the development. being able to follow a
_simple_ recipe for getting started and running a single script, or make, rake,
etc for doing the build would be great. And I think creating everything to
work with Eclipse, a _free_ and very _open_ IDE would be a great place to do
this.<BR><BR>Here's to checking out a git version of the project and opening it
in Eclipse and compiling it!<BR><BR>Thanks
again,<BR>Geoff<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>