<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:42 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vasco.nevoa@sapo.pt">vasco.nevoa@sapo.pt</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
To all, but especially OM.<br>
I felt a little cheated when I saw the FR I had bought was not ready<br>
to be used as a daily phone. This had in fact been the publicity by OM<br>
at the time - GTA01 was for tinkerers, and GTA02 was for the public.<br>
Then people said "no, it was clear that GTA02 was also for tinkerers<br>
only"... well, whatever; I decided to ignore that, be positive, and</blockquote><div><br>So the fact that you ignored it is OM's fault ?<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
OM (the company) should have only sold the GTA02 when the hardware and<br>
kernel and drivers where tested and ready. </blockquote><div><br>Why there are plenty of people very happy to have a phone they can ssh into.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Or, if that was not<br>
possible due to time-to-market constraints, then it should have called<br>
for the community's help for doing just that: getting the device to<br>
work. Instead, it went ahead telling us "the Neo is a blank slate, a<br>
canvas to paint on"... and the people who have painted, have lost many<br>
of their paintings, and even the will to paint. At least, they won't<br>
paint with OM brushes. It is too frustrating and time-consuming.</blockquote><div><br>If what you paint ends up being useful to the community it'll get kept. <br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Personally, I need a working device. Kernel, drivers, daemons, system<br>
scripts, all of this must be in place to allow the device's hardware<br>
to be controlled at the flick of a software switch. GPRS+GSM muxing<br>
must be included by default. WIFI must work correctly by default.<br>
Bluetooth must work as well as in any other distro by default. And for<br>
god's sake, AUDIO must work as intended by default (it IS a phone<br>
after all). Only after OM guarantees these minimum requirements can it<br>
ask the community to go ahead and innovate... Don't waste your time<br>
on GUIs or eye-candy apps; give us a device with a rock solid<br>
subsystem and a command shell, and we will fill in the blanks and<br>
build from there.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Wifi is "working" as well as any basic distro install. You need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and or wpa_supplicant.conf but it is working.<br><br>Bluetooth also has all of the tools to make it work like dbus and hcitool. Again you need to edit a file here of there and do some reading.<br>
<br>Alsa is working a designed as well. You can use alsactl or alsamixer to control every single part of the alsa subsystem. Again a little reading and tinkering will get it to do what you want.<br><br>It sounds like you don't want to do any tinkering or reading. Why did you get a phone where that is a requirement ?<br>
<br>Angus <br></div></div><br></div>