<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Al Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:openmoko@mazikeen.demon.co.uk">openmoko@mazikeen.demon.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote:<br>
> Hello list,<br>
><br>
> I am using QtMoko v14. AFAIK, QtMoko does not support GSM multiplexing,<br>
> which means even if I had a working and usable Web browser for QtMoko, I<br>
> could not use telephony functionality, such as making and receiving phone<br>
> calls, while GPRS is enabled. If I wanted to have Internet access on my<br>
> FreeRunner, what is the least-hassle method of getting a usable Web browser<br>
> + telephony and SMS support while GPRS is enabled? Am I better off finding<br>
> a usable proprietary phone?<br>
<br>
</div>Since you've already got the phone you may as well give the other firmware<br>
options a try. We keep finding people have different definitions of 'usable'<br>
so you'll have to see what suits you.<br>
<br>
SHR should be easy to try, and is supposed to do everything you want. There's<br>
a GUI for the GPRS config. It has multiplexing so GPRS, SMS and telephony<br>
should work together (I say should as I haven't tried GPRS recently.) Midori<br>
might be a suitable browser, although there is a problematic interaction<br>
between the illume keyboard and midori's address autocompletion at the moment.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>There are other browsers in the SHR feeds so if you don't like Midori you can replace it, some worth mentioning is Eve, Links/Links-x11, Dillo use to be in the feeds but don't know why the one from <a href="http://opkg.org">opkg.org</a> wouldn't work.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Debian or hackable:1 may be worth a try too. They have a wider selection of<br>
browsers available, but I don't know the status of the telephony side.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
> Please do not suggest the iPhone because until<br>
> the iPhone 3GS was released, Apple refused to accept my money even though I<br>
> wanted their product: the only way to buy a new iPhone in Canada from a<br>
> store was to sign a 3-year term contract with Rogers or Fido. That is<br>
> illogical. If I want Apple’s product, Apple should sell it to me. I do<br>
> not want to sign a 3-year term contract. I have no term contract with my<br>
> Fido monthly plan. With Rogers, I would have had to sign at least a<br>
> 1-year term contract, pay a 1-time activation fee plus a System Access Fee<br>
> every month. I still had to pay a 1-time activation fee with Fido, but I<br>
> do not pay any System Access Fee nor did I have to sign a term contract.<br>
> Anyway, I decided I am not buying an iPhone because I do not want to<br>
> encourage Apple to not sell their products to consumers, such as me, who<br>
> can afford them but do not want to sign a 3-year term contract. Why would<br>
> I want to develop an application for a device (the iPhone) no one in<br>
> Canada can buy new from a store without signing a 3-year service<br>
> agreement? My users would have to jailbreak their iPhone just to use my<br>
> app because Apple wants control over their platform. I do not want an<br>
> iPod Touch because then I still need a separate phone. I already used to<br>
> have a separate phone and PDA. I want less devices to always carry with<br>
> me, not more. Anyway, I know this post has turned into a rant about the<br>
> iPhone. I think if I had to choose a proprietary phone, I would be<br>
> limited to non-Android Linux phones because I want the same OS on my phone<br>
> as on my PCs, which run Ubuntu and Windows NT (Vista, but it is still<br>
> Windows NT, not Windows.), not iPhone OS, Symbian OS, Windows CE/Windows<br>
> Mobile/Pocket PC/whatever it is called now because Microsoft loves<br>
> renaming things, BlackBerry stains, or some other crappy, ephemeral, and<br>
> proprietary OS used on only 1 type of computer (cell phones and/or PDAs).<br>
> Windows NT does not run on ARM even though modern embedded computers are<br>
> more powerful than the desktop computers Windows NT originally ran on.<br>
> Ubuntu is based on Debian, which runs on the FreeRunner, so QtMoko/plain<br>
> Debian it is. I do not want to start an Android rant, but let’s just say<br>
> I am avoiding Android because it is non-standard,<br>
> proprietary, uses Java (I hate Java because it is gross.) and is hyped by<br>
> the same people who hype Java: non-programmers who do not even use it.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brolin<br>
><br>
<br>
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