<div class="gmail_quote">2009/12/16 Al Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:openmoko@mazikeen.demon.co.uk">openmoko@mazikeen.demon.co.uk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote:<br>
> Hello list,<br>
><br>
> I am using QtMoko v14. AFAIK, QtMoko does not support GSM multiplexing,<br>
> which means even if I had a working and usable Web browser for QtMoko, I<br>
> could not use telephony functionality, such as making and receiving phone<br>
> calls, while GPRS is enabled. If I wanted to have Internet access on my<br>
> FreeRunner, what is the least-hassle method of getting a usable Web browser<br>
> + telephony and SMS support while GPRS is enabled? Am I better off finding<br>
> a usable proprietary phone?<br>
<br>
</div>Since you've already got the phone you may as well give the other firmware<br>
options a try. We keep finding people have different definitions of 'usable'<br>
so you'll have to see what suits you.<br>
<br>
SHR should be easy to try, and is supposed to do everything you want. There's<br>
a GUI for the GPRS config. It has multiplexing so GPRS, SMS and telephony<br>
should work together (I say should as I haven't tried GPRS recently.) Midori<br>
might be a suitable browser, although there is a problematic interaction<br>
between the illume keyboard and midori's address autocompletion at the moment.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>I have already tried the Om2008.8 (?) which was preinstalled on my FreeRunner, Om2009 (completely unusable because the GUI kept becoming unresponsive), SHR-U (version 080808 or 090808? I can find out which version I tried when I am home tonight. It was less unusable than Om2009 but still unusable because I could not set the clock to the correct date and time, all of my SMS messages had the same incorrect date and time, the text input did not work reliably, it used crappy Busybox instead of GNU userland (I know I could probably replace Busybox with GNU userland, but doing so requires a usable ssh connection.), and I could not even get a usable ssh connection to SHR-U because I could not get bridging nor routing working on Ubuntu and the ssh session from Cygwin on Windows Vista was very slow and kept disconnecting. I had the base or tiny version of SHR (I forgot what it was called, but I can find out when I am at home tonight.), which had very few apps, but I could not upgrade to the full version because I did not have a usable ssh connection.), and finally QtMoko, which still has issues but is by far the most usable distro I have tried. I could try SHR again, but my first impression of SHR was very poor because I do not understand how they could release such a broken image. If I try another distro, it has to be able to install to and run from a MicroSD(HC) card because I need to keep my working QtMoko installation in my onboard NAND. I want to be able to connect my FreeRunner directly to an Ethernet LAN instead of having to use bridging and/or routing on a PC. I already have a USB → Ethernet adapter, but I am still waiting for my DealExtreme orders to arrive (it is taking weeks. :/) so I can use my FreeRunner as a USB Host instead of only as a USB Device. If I could connect my FreeRunner directly to my Ethernet LAN, then it does not matter if I cannot get a usable ssh connection to SHR-U via USB networking, but such a connection should still work because it works fine with QtMoko.<br>
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