<div>Seriously, you know I'm a fan of your software (wrote you a few e-mail IIRC)</div><div>but lately, in every thread I read, you are scaring away potential contributors</div><div>and you never really answer the basic questions:</div>
<div><br></div><div>1) why don't you give people feedback on their patches?</div><div>2) why don't you use a mailinglist/SVN/bugtracker?</div><div>if you did this, you wouldn't have to worry about a fork:</div>
<div>3) what is bad about a fork?</div><div><br></div><div>I have no troubles whatsoever if you say: "It's my project and I don't want to give anybody else even the slightest influence"</div><div>it's your right to do that</div>
<div>but ATM your words and actions are contradictory:</div><div><br></div><div>either say </div><div>a) that you want to do tangogps solo (or with a select few that you chose) and tell people to fuck off with their stupid attempts at patches,</div>
<div>or say </div><div>b) that they are welcome to try and help out, and set up some infrastructure or at least give them feedback </div><div>either way, there will be no need for anyone anymore to complain to you</div><div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Beaviour like this (previous e-mails) is making me consider to opkg remove tangogps and install a fork as soon as it comes out</div><div>and no, this does not mean that forking is bad, this means that forking gives people a choice</div>
<div>people will chose the best one </div><div>(like I did when we couldn't load gpx tracks in the official tangogps version, but could in a patched version - <a href="http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005321.html">http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005321.html</a> -)</div>
<div>I forwarded you that message and got no response, for which I personally do not blame you btw</div><div>It was only a forward and took me 2 seconds</div><div>But if I had written a patch, and got no response, I would seriously consider not writing a patch again in the future</div>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>And yes, I'm not a programmer, but I have tried to do what I can; help people on IRC in the early days, file bug reports, do some early testing for a bunch of programmes, try to give feedback to the creators, add things to the wiki, I even consider some of my posts on the ML us...)</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>In short:</div><div>please answer those three questions -1) 2) 3)- (or don't, that is an answer on it's own)</div><div>and communicate a) or b) </div><div>(or c if you have a different opinion)</div>
<div>just make it sure that everyone knows what they can expect</div><div>because at this moment people have made efforts they wouldn't have done if they had known were they stood (e.g. not getting any feedback to a patch)</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I personally hope the project continues to evolve and improve, because I find it a big addition to the available software on the openmoko. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>yorick</div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Marcus Bauer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marcus.bauer@gmail.com">marcus.bauer@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:19:25 -0400<br>
<div class="im">Stephen Pape <<a href="mailto:srpape@gmail.com">srpape@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">> Okay. I'm not sure what you're getting at, or why you're completely<br>
> changing the subject to make a personal attack on me over an argument<br>
> involving software development practices.<br>
<br>
</div>So when you use Google it is okay and when I use Google it is a<br>
personal attack? Hey, you are such a cutie :-) You should try to sue<br>
Google for diffamation - you could get rich quick! :D And I will join<br>
you because "Linus Torvalds" and Openmoko has a lot more Google hits<br>
than me and that guy has never done any work on Openmoko at all.<br>
<br>
I'll right tomorrow write him an email about what's wrong with his<br>
completely fair scheduler. I think there are situations where it is not<br>
fair enough. And I'll be really upset if he disregards my email just<br>
because I have never contributed to the kernel (almost at least).<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Maybe you should look inwards regarding your complains about developer<br>
> ego.<br>
<br>
</div>I have scheduled 4 hours for this task next weekend. You think that's<br>
enough?<br>
<br>
> Good luck.<br>
<br>
Thank you. And thank you for your example that the best way for<br>
avoiding questions about forking is not to make any open source<br>
software at all.<br>
<br>
...gosh, what a cutie Stephen is... :D<br>
<br>
HAVE FUN. Last mail, day over. Thanks guys.<br>
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