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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Also, I never did write anything about
moko11 bugs.<br>
I don't know about them.<br>
I did write that my perception is, this firmware seem to have
better power management.<br>
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I believe in medicine, and I don't believe in ghosts.<br>
If you say, it's unrelated, I don't argue.<br>
What can I say now, it worked ~10 hours with GSM turned on, had
two reboots, and still has 63% of battery power.<br>
May be that's connected to heating or something else. But my
device became usable, I was writing that it had problems in this
mailing list a couple of weeks ago.<br>
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About wiki, first of all, we have new, legally free (in those
repressive countries (: ) tool - the flasher. Secondly we have the
alternative firmware _with_source code.<br>
I belive it worth to write there about free flasher, how to build
it, and how to use it, not only with leo2moko port. The flasher
can be used to flash moko11 too. Also, it worth to write there how
to build the leo2moko firmware. Anyone may add whatever political
concern she has to the same wiki page.<br>
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11/10/13 09:32 -ում, joerg Reisenweber-ը գրել է:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On Sun 10 November 2013 18:27:45 Nick wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Quoth Norayr Chilingarian:
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<pre wrap="">What I would write in wiki is step by step instructions how to build the
firmware, free loader, and flash it.
I don't think it can confuse someone in some way.
What about moderation, then, well, what you are saying is against
collaborative work, like it is in Wikipedia.
Everyone, by even not having Wikipedia account could go and write
everything he wants. However, as we see, there are more sane people
rather than idiots, and Wikipedia is mostly correct.
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I think Joerg was worried about you writing a page saying "this
firmware improves power consumption" before more testing and
consulting with more knowledgeable people. I'm sure we all agree
that a place to discuss ideas and possibilities (as wrong as they
may turn out to be) is valuable, but Joerg has no doubt been around
long enough to have to deal with the fallout of those discussions /
conjectures being left in places where people take theories that had
been disproved elsewhere as fact, and shared the disinformation
wider. Which ultimately can give a bad impression to a project, as
well as bad experience to others.
Which is a long way of saying: the mailing list is the best place
for discussion, and the wiki should be reserved for things which we
are more sure about. So instructions on building and loading the
firmware would be fine for the wiki, but speculations about its
power saving (or sms receiving) improvements are best for the
mailing list. Which I know is what you suggested, but that wasn't
clear initially.
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!00% ACK, sorry if that wasn't clear enough from what I wrote. Thanks for
helping me out :-)
/j
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