Exposure in paroli? [was: Re: Exposure]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) raster at rasterman.com
Fri Jan 30 06:53:17 CET 2009

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:24:20 -0800 (PST) c_c <cchandel at yahoo.com> said:

> Hi,
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)-2 wrote:
> > 
> > possible - not that i'm going to do it - but anything is possible with
> > code. :)
> > i am not touching the launcher in illume as i am going to pretty much gut
> > it
> > anyway later.
> > 
>   Ha! well, I wasn't expecting you to do it. Can you throw some light on
> what you're going to come up with after you 'gut' illume :-).
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)-2 wrote:
> > 
> > if you want a settings app - write one. if the .desktop Categories have
> > System
> > and Settings in it - it will get listed under the system "tab" in e's
> > settings
> > panel - clicking it will launch that app.
> > 
> I'm looking at doing just that. Wanted some answers about the the how's and
> why's. This seems like a decent way of doing things to me.
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)-2 wrote:
> > 
> > e has a notification module that does this with the xdf notifications dbus
> > protocol - it likely wont look great on a small screen - but it'll work.
> > 
> Can Illume (or something like that) modify the way data is presented on the
> screen through xdf notifications? 

oops - i meant XDG - type (freedesktop.org). the notification module defines
how it looks - its fairly small and simple actually... but its not hard to

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)-2 wrote:
> > 
> > it just changes e's behavior and ui a bit.
> > the problem is its too much in 1 place and needs splitting up.
> > 
> Is that part of the de-gutting process? The reason I'm asking is that I
> wouldn't want to spend time trying to modify Illume if what you're going to
> do changes the paradigm itself.

yes. i need to split illume up. too much in 1 spot. the vkbd infra is good. the
built-in kbd is decent - dict is a bit lacking. the top bar (slipshelf) is ok.
launcher is ugly. layout management is ok. this should get split into multiple
modules, not all in 1 - so to answer the above. this needs doing. launcher i
just dont much like - it was a 2hr effort on an afternoon to provide a more
usable alternative to the slider mode which is what om originally designed and
wanted (and was implemented - but of course has usability issues).

the first step is to add the general paradigm of being able to split the screen
up into e itself - so illume can provide the policy - and e manage a central
place to advertise such splitting and how to hook into it. this then allows for
kbd and layout and splishelf to be split - launcher too. launcher then should
probably be replaced with more of a "quick launch" set of icons for your 4 or 5
fave apps - then a bigger "app browser" for the rest. get you back a desktop
thats clean - so you can add clock and other gadgets to it (a today gadget etc.

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