oFono, a FSO Clone from Intel and Nokia

Franky Van Liedekerke liedekef at telenet.be
Sun May 17 02:05:09 CEST 2009

On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:44:27 +1000
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <raster at rasterman.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 17 May 2009 00:47:19 +0200 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"
> <mickey at vanille-media.de> said:
> > On Saturday 16 May 2009 22:45:34 Lorn Potter wrote:
> > > It's about control. Do you think Nokia and Intel will allow
> > > someone else to control their telephony stack development?
> > 
> > Thanks for confirming my suspicion. I'm glad I work on something
> > that's under the control of the community.
> > 
> > > What I don't get is why people think it's bad to have more than
> > > one open source 'solution'. If reinventing the wheel was bad, we
> > > wouldn't have KDE, gnome, gtk, and even python, FSO and Linux, for
> > > that matter. Reinventing the wheel, is _good_.
> > 
> > Lorn, if you would really think this through... this is so wrong, I
> > wonder how you can truly believe in that. I'm glad the this is a
> > minorities' view. Anyways, since your opinion on that didn't change
> > within the last 5 years, I will immediately stop commenting.
> sorry mickey. going to have to disagree with you here. and even YOU
> disobey your own principles here. why use efl or evas, edje ...
> elementary? hell! it's re-inventing the wheel! you should have stuck
> to motif (well lesstif) as all that qt, gtk, etc is core
> infrastructure that re-invented the wheel! god forbid anyone should
> do that!
> regardless what software it is - everyone has the right and freedom
> to compete. having any opinion to the contrary is entirely against
> the open source ethos of freedom.
> don't get me wrong - my HEART is with FSO, but bashing a project with
> "nih" labels is not rational. it's a personal thing. its the
> disappointment and unhappiness that your solution (FSO) now has
> direct and stiff competition and life will get hard, and there is a
> good chance your project may die/fail as people defect to ofono. that
> fear is justified and real. i understand it 100% and THAT is the real
> reason behind expressing dislike of ofono. do not confuse that with
> competition and "nih". look at the support as a positive - you have
> won the hearts of at least a set of people already. build on that. be
> positive. dont bash the competition in public. promote the POSITIVES
> of FSO. do a technical evaluation of things - e.g. performance, API,
> compatibility, footprint (memory, disk) etc. etc.
> ofnono claims fso's api is too primitive and low-level. ok - then
> prove otherwise. that it's as usable and good as ofono (eg write a
> dialler - one with ofono and one with fso. make all other conditions
> equal (same language and ui, jut different api bindings) and make it
> an even match. if ofono wins with smaller, simpler code - then you
> have something to improve. then ofono's claims that fso's api is too
> manual and low level, putting too much work in the ui, is right.
> prove them wrong!

I totally agree with with this point of view. Don't let the competition
get to you, just be the best.
Personally, I don't believe in fso, but that's because I don't like
python, nothing else :-)


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