Some problems

andy selby andyfrommk at
Sun Aug 19 10:47:45 CEST 2007

First of all you didn't hit 'reply to all' so only I got your
email,not the list, dont worry I've done it a few times

On 19/08/07, wim delvaux <wim.delvaux at> wrote:
> On Saturday 18 August 2007 21:10:35 andy selby wrote:
> > > after flashing my new NEO with the proper kernel/rootfs and booting
> >
> > Which kernel/rootfs version did you flash?
> The latest version
> openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01-20070803091138.rootfs.jffs2
> uImage-
> >
> > > I noticed the following issues.
> > >
> > > 1. the Top menubar is gone. I mean ... gone.  died, crash coredump ...
> > > invisible.
> >
> > Do you not see it at all or does it disappear (i.e when you tap the gsm
> > icon)
> Well i was 'freaking' around and all of a sudden the top taskbar disappeard
> (just gone) I could still get the taskmanager but even then it was without
> the top menu.  Closing the taksmanager left a black screen with only the
> status bar.  I belief it just crashed.  Perhaps it might be a good idea
> to 'wrap' the critical toolbars so that when the - god forbid - crash they
> restart.

Thats a well known bug, use the command line to start up the gsm
modem/connect to the network.The taskbar crashing bug seems to be
fixed on the latest build.

> >
> > > 2. I have the on screen keyboard that by no means disappears.  I.e. it is
> > > there, on my screen eatin 30% of space and unwilling to go away.
> >
> > On the top menubar (which, o.k., you don't seem to have) there is a
> > white patch which you tap to toggle keyboard visibility.
> I learned by accident of that white patch. Might be a good idea to put
> something more sensible in there. (a keyboard ?)
> Some more things.
> 1. The fonts are REALLY PUNY.  setting the fontsize in the settings does not
> seem to do anything but even then I find the fonts way to small for mere
> humans to read.
> 2. Same thing for the taksmanager and today managers.  THe icons should be
> about 50 % bigger.  Now the are a bunch of odd bits probably meaning
> something but some are completely unclear.
> 3. in the contact manager when you double click on a day to add an
> appointmente. some 'fields' are hightlighted in bright red.  very unstylish.
> 4. Does the device ever go in to 'sleep' mode ? Now I need to turn it off to
> make it go dark.

Go to this page
and download the latest builds ( 20070818 with kernel at
the bottom of the page), I've got the next one up from that and alot
of the issues you bring up are fixed, such as the font size in the
terminal being bigger (too big in my opinion), there is now power
managment, press the power button for a few seconds and a menu will
come up with options such as 'full PM' (blanks screen) and 'dim only'
(dims screen).
I should mention this build has a new UI so to get a keyboard and
terminal you'll have to tap the 'plus' symbol at the bottom of the
'today' screen and select input manager to get that white patch which
you need to get a keyboard, and further down there is terminal.

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