Peter Rasmussen plr at udgaard.com
Sat Apr 5 00:56:52 CEST 2008

I don't know of what HW issues there might be for the Neo GTA01 to 
_drain_ so much battery so fast.
Could you be more precise?

The only thing I know that is better on the GTA02 is that it has a 
calorie counter that helps deciding how much power has actually been 
drained from the battery, thus helping the driver that shows how much 
power is left.

It does however, not help with the battery draing issue.
Any change made in software that would help the GTA02 should also help 
the GTA01.

The GTA01 battery is 1200mA and has the 6h - 12h (on/off) battery times.

My Motorola A780, which is also quite a powerful smartphone from 2004, 
has a 780mA battery and doesn't drain faster than other regular 
smartphones (74h when on and not used for calls, forever when off, also 
without removing the battery).

I recognize that the Neo is a developers phone, but this is a disgrace 
wrt. developing a mobile platform.


ian douglas wrote:
> I'm not saying that at all, and sorry if I gave that impression.
> The hardware guys have stated that the battery life on the Freerunner 
> will be MUCH better, and if you look through the mailing list 
> archives, you'll see many, many discussions about why battery life is 
> so low on the original Neo -- it *is* a developer's phone after all -- 
> but they still hope to have a MUCH improved battery life on the GTA02. 
> Still, OpenMoko IS a true multitasking environment, so the device 
> itself is busier and requires more power than a standard mobile phone.
> I seem to recall someone saying there might be a hardware issue on the 
> original Neo causing the short battery life, and that the solution 
> (for the Neo at least) for maintaining battery life after you turn the 
> Neo completely off is to remove the battery for ~10-20 seconds and 
> then reinsert it.
> Again, this is my own recollection of what's been on the mailing list 
> since I joined last fall. Others on the list can give much more 
> authoritative answers. My initial answer of a true multitasking OS was 
> meant
> Personally when I had my Neo, I only had the battery in the thing long 
> enough to do some flash upgrades, to make a few phone calls to test 
> out my AT&T and TMobile SIM cards, and to show it at the SCALE Linux 
> expo here in Los Angeles back in February. Other than that, the 
> battery was never kept in the Neo when it wasn't in use, precisely 
> because of the power drain.
> -id
> Peter Rasmussen wrote:
>> So, what you're saying is that the platform we are using on the Neo 
>> is not fit for a mobile?

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