Kevin Dean kevin at foreverdean.info
Sat Apr 5 05:53:00 CEST 2008

I have to say with all due respect that this issue is far from
resolved. Firstly, comparison between a Neo device and "some other"
device is going to be unfair at best. Nobody bought a Neo1973
expecting it to be perfect - the "developer" warning meant we
understood there MIGHT be hardware defects.

That said, I think it is TOTALLY fair to ask for all of the
information we can get. Right now, the software is decently stable.
It's moderately functional. For many people the very real limitation
to Neo being "viable" is battery life.

As it stands now, there's been NO confirmation from Openmoko Inc. on
this issue. I heard there was SOME firmware bug that prevented the
power management unit from sending a shutdown signal when the battery
was low, and I am under the impression that there is no userspace
power management software but both of these assumptions are "word of

I think we ALL would like some definiative word either way. For me,
knowing there was a hardware defect would be just fine - you can't
learn without mistakes. But not knowing, and feeling as if there's no
attempt as resolution, is grating.

IS there anyone who has authority to make an official announcement on
this, even if it's a "We're still looking into this" ?

-Kevin Dean

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Peter Rasmussen <plr at udgaard.com> wrote:
> Could you be more specific of that hardware bug?
>  Peter
>  Nkoli wrote:
> > There is a hardware bug in GTA01 that is responsible for the problems with
> power management. The OM team caught it early enough that they were able to
> fix / replace the offending hardware in GTA02, but not in GTA01 boards.
> You'll have to search the community mailing list to find the complete
> details. They are still working on putting together  a software fix for
> GTA01, but not surprisingly, most of the focus is on getting GTA02 out the
> door so a fix might take a while unless someone from the community steps up.
> Either way, the power management issue does not detract from GTA01's
> intended purpose as a developer phone.
> >

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