Michael Shiloh michael at openmoko.org
Sat Apr 5 01:24:30 CEST 2008

I will try to get a definitive answer on this.


Kevin Dean wrote:
> I have to say with all due respect that this issue is far from
> resolved. Firstly, comparison between a Neo device and "some other"
> device is going to be unfair at best. Nobody bought a Neo1973
> expecting it to be perfect - the "developer" warning meant we
> understood there MIGHT be hardware defects.
> That said, I think it is TOTALLY fair to ask for all of the
> information we can get. Right now, the software is decently stable.
> It's moderately functional. For many people the very real limitation
> to Neo being "viable" is battery life.
> As it stands now, there's been NO confirmation from Openmoko Inc. on
> this issue. I heard there was SOME firmware bug that prevented the
> power management unit from sending a shutdown signal when the battery
> was low, and I am under the impression that there is no userspace
> power management software but both of these assumptions are "word of
> mouth".
> I think we ALL would like some definiative word either way. For me,
> knowing there was a hardware defect would be just fine - you can't
> learn without mistakes. But not knowing, and feeling as if there's no
> attempt as resolution, is grating.
> IS there anyone who has authority to make an official announcement on
> this, even if it's a "We're still looking into this" ?
> -Kevin Dean
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Peter Rasmussen <plr at udgaard.com> wrote:
>> Could you be more specific of that hardware bug?
>>  Peter
>>  Nkoli wrote:
>>> There is a hardware bug in GTA01 that is responsible for the problems with
>> power management. The OM team caught it early enough that they were able to
>> fix / replace the offending hardware in GTA02, but not in GTA01 boards.
>> You'll have to search the community mailing list to find the complete
>> details. They are still working on putting together  a software fix for
>> GTA01, but not surprisingly, most of the focus is on getting GTA02 out the
>> door so a fix might take a while unless someone from the community steps up.
>> Either way, the power management issue does not detract from GTA01's
>> intended purpose as a developer phone.

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