<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Is the NAND erase still required?<div><br></div><div>1. I thought it is for Neo 1973 only<br><div>2. I had filed in Summer 2007 a feature request / bug report that dfuutil should do an automatic nand-erase if needed (what do we have automata for?) and the bug was closed in the meantime as solved.<div><br></div><div>IMHO there is a lot of confusion around that. Unfortunately, I am not the one to make a clear statement.</div><div><br></div><div>Nikolaus</div><div><br><div><div>Am 16.06.2008 um 18:16 schrieb thomasg:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">It's important to clean the Freerunner's NAND FLash before flashing kernel and rootfs.<br>Otherwise it might run into unexpected and random behavior.<br>If you don't know, there's a description: <a href="http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Nand_erase">http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Nand_erase</a><br> <br>Most people forget to do this, and the problems are gone after they do.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/16 Abel Chang <<a href="mailto:changzer@gmail.com">changzer@gmail.com</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I've run it with a Ubuntu live cd on my computer.<br>these are the list of the files i've tried to flash via usb into my device:<br><br>openmoko-devel-image-om-gta02<div>.jffs2<br>openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-om-gta02.tar<br> uImage-2.6.24+git20080614-r0-om-gta02.bin<br>uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin<br><br>at some point, with one of these files that i can't remember which one was it, the device stoped working, and would not boot into the graphical environment.<br> then, with one of the other files i listed above, the device booted properly into a very different kernel. i'll attach to this email a picture of whats going on.<br>in the future, i will try to keep a better record step by step of what i'm trying with the device.<br> perhaps i'll look for help with the computer science or computer engineer department in my school.<br><br>the reason i tried to change anything, was because when it came out of the box.<br>the only applications available were: contacts, dialer, messages, console.<br> and i wanted to have at least a clock or a calculator, or maybe a web browser working on it.<br>is it possible for someone who dont know anything about programming, fix this by following a step by step tutorial?<br><br>thank you for your help!</div> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/16 Abel Chang <<a href="mailto:changzer@gmail.com" target="_blank">changzer@gmail.com</a>>:<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Andy Selby <<a href="mailto:andyfrommk@googlemail.com" target="_blank">andyfrommk@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > dear andy,<br> <br> > Best regard> nope, its actually the Freerunner.<br> <div><div></div><div>> i've bought it to use it in my graduation project, in industrial design.<br> > mostly my job would be designing a sweet casing and perhaps a nice graphic<br> > interface.<br> > but since i dont know anything about programing, i'm a bit clueless of what<br> > to do with it right now.<br> ><br> > thank you.<br> ><br> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Andy Selby <<a href="mailto:andyfrommk@googlemail.com" target="_blank">andyfrommk@googlemail.com</a>><br> > wrote:<br> >><br> >> > A clueless industrial designer could use a little help here :)<br> >> > I've just purchased a Neo Freerunner, and i think i've already messed it<br> >> > up<br> >> > a little bit.<br> >><br> >> You've purchased what?, a neo freerunner?, I didn't know they were on<br> >> sale yet, are you sure its not neo1973 (indicated by the neo1973 above<br> >> the screen)<br> >><br> >> > i tried to use some of the kernel files avaliable from<br> >> > <a href="http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/" target="_blank">http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/</a><br> >> > and now my device doesnt seem to be working properly.<br> >> > could anyone tell me which one is the latest working, and most reliable<br> >> > version?<br> >><br> >> If its a neo1973 your best off getting one from here<br> >> <a href="http://downloads.openmoko.org/recommended/" target="_blank">http://downloads.openmoko.org/recommended/</a><br> >> or the qtopia release from here<br> >> <a href="http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=50" target="_blank">http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=50</a><br> >> that page is for the unstable ASU images if you want one get one that<br> >> has gta01 in the file name<br> <br> </div></div>Ahh.. This must be what steve meant when he said<br> >I know some shipments (university customers) have<br> > already landed.<br> Please accept my apologies.<br> Please explain the problem further, run us through step by step what<br> you did and at what point it stopped working.<br> Did you flash a rootfs (*.jffs2) to your device?<br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><div><div></div><div>-- <br>Best regards,<br><br>Abel Chang - 張東龍<br><br>Graphic & Product Designer<br><br>---<br><br>NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail is confidential or may otherwise be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient only. If you have received it in error, please notify us immediately by reply or by calling the telephone number above and delete this message and all its attachments. Please note that any unauthorized review, copying, disclosing or otherwise making use of the information is strictly prohibited. Thank you. </div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Best regards,<br><br>Abel Chang - 張東龍<br><br>Graphic & Product Designer<br><br>---<br><br>NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail is confidential or may otherwise be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient only. If you have received it in error, please notify us immediately by reply or by calling the telephone number above and delete this message and all its attachments. Please note that any unauthorized review, copying, disclosing or otherwise making use of the information is strictly prohibited. Thank you. </div></div></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></body></html>