wiki reorg - Documentation Team

Josh Monson josh.monson at
Fri Jul 25 00:46:23 CEST 2008

Hi Justin,
I completely agree with your "take this team in a direction" comments.
Originally, a few days before this list was created, I posed the
Of whom would lead this or be in charge of it, in terms of coordinating
the efforts of the volunteers. The response I received from OM was that
Brenda has been leading this already and will continue to do so. I see a
lot of back'n'forth on the list about who is doing what, but I do not
see responses from Brenda or another person in listing out tasks,
assigning work, goal orientation, etc...

William Lai wrote "In fact she has been actively 'leading' since day 1,
before any of these discussions started."

So at this point, I guess my question would be of the following...Say
it's been a few days since you have been able to check this lists
emails, and you find yourself w/ a few hours of free time, or time you
would like to dedicate to the wiki. How would one quickly find out
something you could edit or organize that would be productive? Email the
list and wait for a response? Go to the wiki page and just find
something you feel should be different? Etc.....

A coordinated effort w/ end goals would be extremely efficient and
usefull since none of the volunteers can put in days at a time on this


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Subject: Re: wiki reorg - Documentation Team


Thanks for being so inviting. I love the enthusiasm that everyone has
to try to make this work!  It's really awesome and I think we really
have potential to make positive changes happen.

However, I am seeing many individual efforts and not much effort as a
team. If we continue to work the way things are going currently, not
only are we going to get duplicated and wasteful work, but our efforts
will also be fragmented and possibly going in different directions.

Instead of everyone taking a handful of pages and just going to fix it
in an ad-hoc way, we need to coordinate our efforts towards a unified
goal. Otherwise, the result will not be improved documentation, which
is the ultimate goal for all of us.

I hope that we can take the necessary steps, as a group, to:
1) Gather all the issues we are seeing currently and identify the
underlying problem.
2) Outline 3 (or some other number) key themes we need to work towards
3) Set up initiatives that work towards those themes

Right now, I think we need someone to step up and take this team in a
direction. I would volunteer for this position, but am willing to let
someone take charge who might have more time and commitment to this

Please respond in this thread with any suggestions/ideas.


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <tingox at>
> Hi,
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Ferenc Veres <lion at>
>> One of you is currently writing a
> I think that is Brenda's page.
>> Anyway, it's not easy for one person to decide what to do with
>> pages. Should we do voting page on the
> I think it is important to  to two things at the same time:
> - discuss guidelines and specific issues here, and document the
> - do updates on the wiki whenever each of us finds a page / section
> that clearly needs updating, and it is clear to the finder how he /
> she wants to update it.
> Anyway, that's how I plan to work.
> The worst that can happen is that I must redo my work on some page if
> the rest of the wiki maintainers team disagrees with my update. I can
> live with that :-)
>> We also need a wiki administrator contact, to request changes which
>> not permitted for general users.
> I think we have that already, in Brenda, our excellent Wiki editor.
> --
> Regards,
> Torfinn Ingolfsen
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