[gta02-core] A new hardware
Muthu Subramanian K
muthusuba at gmail.com
Wed Mar 10 03:47:48 CET 2010
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Dave Ball <openmoko at underhand.org> wrote:
> Hi Muthu,
> Slightly longer answer:
> Openmoko released lots of data about the freerunner (schematics, CAD files
> etc.), but not all the parts needed for derivative manufacture (BOM, Gerbers
> etc.). Following their decision to stop making phones, we (gta02-core) have
> started producing fully open designs for a minor improvement of the gta02-a7
> We are planning to build quite a large number. But as you would have
guessed we are still in prestudy phase - checking out the possibilities,
alternatives etc. But we are really keen on gta02
> This design is not yet complete, but with some small changes could possibly
> deliver what you're after. Many parts used in the gta02 design are now
> difficult to source - such as the cpu and GSM chipset. Our project is based
> around the kind donation from openmoko of some remaining parts from their
> production run, and other parts we can source in one-off quantities. To
> produce more than the 20 we hope to build will likely mean upgrading some
> components to devices that can be easily sourced in the needed quantities,
> but this could then result in an improved device you could mass produce.
> Our project does not include improving the freerunner case - we don't have
> the resources to change the case ourselves, but that wouldn't stop you doing
> so yourself.
That should not be an issue...we would love to contribute back (if we are
doing any kind of improvements/modifications - h/w, s/w, case...)
> It sounds as though GTA02-core could certainly provide a good starting
> point for you. What time frame and manufacture scale are you considering?
As I already said, we are in prestudy phase so it might be difficult to tell
the time frame. But scale wise we are looking at low margins-high volumes
and medium margins. We are not looking at the premium segment - (in short)
Since its Indian markets we don't have the resources to compete with the
> Muthu Subramanian K wrote:
>> Try asking on the gta02-core list as this isn't far from what
>> they're working
>> on. A lot will depend on how many you're looking to make.
>> We are looking at simple modifications to gta02(a7) like with/without
>> wifi/gps/...and the touch screen improvement (it isn't accessible at the
>> sides - flat type rather than "inside" type).
>> I have attached relevant history to this mail for gta02-core...
>> Muthu Subramanian
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:00:49 +0500
>> From: Muthu Subramanian K <muthusuba at gmail.com <mailto:
>> muthusuba at gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Re: A new hardware
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>> We were looking at similar markets in India. Can somebody tell us how much
>> practically possible is it to manufacture (build) freerunner (replica or
>> with modifications/improvements) with the current open documentation
>> available (specifically hardware) from the downloads?
>> We have good software and marketing team but are yet to build a hardware
>> team - before which we were looking at the possibilities of building the
>> phone in India (outsourced/in house).
>> We would appreciate any kind of help/advice/direction/suggestion/... in
>> Thank you!
>> Muthu Subramanian
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