Hi,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Dave Ball <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:openmoko@underhand.org">openmoko@underhand.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Muthu,<br>
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Slightly longer answer:<br>
Openmoko released lots of data about the freerunner (schematics, CAD files etc.), but not all the parts needed for derivative manufacture (BOM, Gerbers etc.). Following their decision to stop making phones, we (gta02-core) have started producing fully open designs for a minor improvement of the gta02-a7 hardware.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>We are planning to build quite a large number. But as you would have guessed we are still in prestudy phase - checking out the possibilities, alternatives etc. But we are really keen on gta02<br> <br>
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This design is not yet complete, but with some small changes could possibly deliver what you're after. Many parts used in the gta02 design are now difficult to source - such as the cpu and GSM chipset. Our project is based around the kind donation from openmoko of some remaining parts from their production run, and other parts we can source in one-off quantities. To produce more than the 20 we hope to build will likely mean upgrading some components to devices that can be easily sourced in the needed quantities, but this could then result in an improved device you could mass produce.<br>
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Our project does not include improving the freerunner case - we don't have the resources to change the case ourselves, but that wouldn't stop you doing so yourself.<br></blockquote><div><br>That should not be an issue...we would love to contribute back (if we are doing any kind of improvements/modifications - h/w, s/w, case...) <br>
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It sounds as though GTA02-core could certainly provide a good starting point for you. What time frame and manufacture scale are you considering?<br></blockquote><div>As I already said, we are in prestudy phase so it might be difficult to tell the time frame. But scale wise we are looking at low margins-high volumes and medium margins. We are not looking at the premium segment - (in short) Since its Indian markets we don't have the resources to compete with the bigger players.<br>
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Dave<br>
<br></blockquote><div>Thanks!<br>Muthu Subramanian<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Muthu Subramanian K wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
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Try asking on the gta02-core list as this isn't far from what<br>
they're working<br>
on. A lot will depend on how many you're looking to make.<br>
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We are looking at simple modifications to gta02(a7) like with/without wifi/gps/...and the touch screen improvement (it isn't accessible at the sides - flat type rather than "inside" type).<br>
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I have attached relevant history to this mail for gta02-core...<br>
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Thanks!<br>
Muthu Subramanian<br>
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Hi,<br>
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We were looking at similar markets in India. Can somebody tell us how much<br>
practically possible is it to manufacture (build) freerunner (replica or<br>
with modifications/improvements) with the current open documentation<br>
available (specifically hardware) from the downloads?<br>
<br>
We have good software and marketing team but are yet to build a hardware<br>
team - before which we were looking at the possibilities of building the<br>
phone in India (outsourced/in house).<br>
<br>
We would appreciate any kind of help/advice/direction/suggestion/... in this<br>
regard.<br>
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Thank you!<br>
Muthu Subramanian<br>
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