re: apple zooming<br>very good point Mohammed, I completely missed the zooming interaction. And as there is no multitouch pinch gesture on the neo1973, zooming needs to be spelled out. Thanks!<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
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<div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">I agree. A distinction should be made between apps on the phone that are finger apps and intended for day2day _phone_ operation and other apps that adds or mimics a software available for the PC,
e.g. a TextEditor (mobile openoffice maybe?). <br><br>btw, i just noticed... the iphone does implement a double tap. in safari and google maps, double tap is used to zoom in.<br><br>i know this defeats almost this whole discussion, but its something to ponder... to Apple, a double tap is not something difficult for their end users...
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</a><br>Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:24:37 AM<br>Subject: Re: Application UI Design Recommendations<br><br></span><div><span class="e" id="q_113deba8b5dcebd9_3">I had a think about this last night. There is a use case for double tapping: to select a word in a text editor.
<br><br>So, some time in the next few days I'll edit the wiki with a line that advises against the common implementation of a double tap gesture, but in circumstances where there is a clear parallel with a desktop app (
e.g. text editing, url entry, copy/paste selection etc) that the designer should carefully consider implementing that gesture.<br><br>Excellent discussion - thanks all.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/19/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
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We must not forget that this actually IS a phone, and on a phone "normal" users don't double-click since there's no mouse. As far as I have seen, end-users don't even think of double-clickning on phones (except some of the techie ones, wich have the skill to understand when to double-click and when not).
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