Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

Andy Green andy at openmoko.com
Wed Jun 4 08:38:55 CEST 2008


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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Rod Whitby wrote:
|> And therein starts the decline of Openmoko application availability
into
|> the poor practices of the windows world ...
|
| ;-) It's really two different usage scenarios: one is the "nice and tidy
| distribution", the other is getting something to build and, sometimes,
| to disseminate it quickly.
|
| While there are people who indeed have the angelic patience to work in
| distribution mode all the time, for most of us, this is just too much
| pain and overhead. (Hi Andy ;-)

Hi yourself... I guess you must have started using Openmoko build system
then because last time we spoke about it you were avoiding it same as me
- -- for the same reasons.

| Also, having a toolchain that makes it easy to cross-build from sources
| will help a lot towards people not even wanting to download pre-built
| binaries.

This is completely backwards.  I know you run Gentoo so maybe the
insanity is normal for you, but if someone painstakingly equipped their
box to build death-foo-libs package that has crazy build dependencies on
automake 0.1 and emacs 0.01, and kindly packaged and made available the
binary, why on earth should you ignore that and go through agonies
setting up your box to regenerate exactly the same bits?  They even give
you a -dev package, after YOU compiled the thing there is NOTHING
additional over just using the packages.  Except what, a chunk of your
life evaporated while you stared at things scrolling.

What you should have said is: ''Also, having a toolchain that makes it
easy to cross-build from PACKAGES will help a lot towards people not
even wanting to BUILD STUFF THAT IS ALREADY BUILT AND USABLE.''

- -Andy
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