<div>I know this has nothing to do with this but I desperately looking for answers! I ordered a Neo Base on Sunday and still have yet to receive conformation for my order! Is there a back up or a problem with my order? i really want to get going with the neo and OpenMoko! Please Help
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<div>Derick Jones <br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:openmoko-devel-request@lists.openmoko.org">openmoko-devel-request@lists.openmoko.org</a></b> <<a href="mailto:openmoko-devel-request@lists.openmoko.org">
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<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of openmoko-devel digest..."<br> </div><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: How do I include a package in the image? (Gergely Kis)
<br> 2. Re: third party navigation solution (Alf Stockton)<br> 3. Re: How do I locally patch OpenMokoMake build process?<br> (Jeremiah Flerchinger)<br> 4. Re: How do I include a package in the image?<br> (Jeremiah Flerchinger)
<br> 5. Shipping costs (Fred Leeflang)<br> 6. info on the SMedia 3362 (Chuck Tuffli)<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Gergely Kis" <<a href="mailto:openmoko@kisgergely.com">openmoko@kisgergely.com
</a>><br>To: "<a href="mailto:openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org">openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org">openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org</a>><br>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:52 +0200
<br>Subject: Re: How do I include a package in the image?<br>Hi,<br><br>Could you share your .bb file and your patches so we can also give it a try?<br><br>Best Regards,<br>Gergely<br><br><br>On 7/6/07, John Seghers <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jseghers@cequint.com">
jseghers@cequint.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> I'm attempting to include a package containing phoneme-feature into an<br>> openmoko build.<br>><br>> I've successfully (I think) built the package with the OpenEmbedded arm
<br>> cross-compiling toolchain and have the .ipk package. I cannot for the life<br>> of me find the way to get that package included into the image.<br>><br>><br>><br>> One assumption I should state first is: /home/moko/build/tmp/rootfs/….
<br>> should contain the files from the package if it is installed in the image.<br>> Is this correct?<br>><br>><br>><br>> I've tried setting the documented IPKG_INSTALL in my bitbake recipe for<br>> phoneme. I've tried setting PACKAGE_INSTALL.
<br>><br>> I've tried adding the package name to the PACKAGE_INSTALL in<br>> openembedded/packages/images/openmoko-<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://image.bb/" target="_blank">
image.bb</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> Can someone please shed some light on this?<br>><br><br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Alf Stockton <<a href="mailto:alf@stockton.co.za">alf@stockton.co.za
</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org">openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org</a><br>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:03:45 +0200<br>Subject: Re: third party navigation solution<br>Patrick Beck <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:beck-patrick@web.de">
beck-patrick@web.de</a>> said:-<br> ><br> > > >From my side, I would even spend some menpower to make this thing<br> > running on the upcoming OpenMoko based Neo. But I'm no developer. I'm a<br>
> teacher for economics and information technology. I can talk to make the<br> > guys from Navigon to build there Navigation programm to this platform,<br> > can visit them, can make testings an QM and reports to the community.
<br> > But I need the interest of the community and the support and the willing<br> > of the developers to have such an application on Neo.<br> > > > And I need the specs to give them. A Neo-device for the developers
<br> > would be very helpful, too, I think. Maybe this task could also do<br> > someone else, who is more on the technical side, but I would do it<br> > anyway because I'm so amazed of the idea.<br> > end quote.
<br><br>as a programmer I offer my assistance as well.<br><br>--<br>Regards,<br>Alf Stockton <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.stockton.co.za/" target="_blank">www.stockton.co.za
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To: John Seghers <<a href="mailto:jseghers@cequint.com">jseghers@cequint.com</a>><br>Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:07:24 -0700<br>Subject: Re: How do I locally patch OpenMokoMake build process?<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">John Seghers wrote:
<blockquote cite="http://mid04f601c7bf2a$a77c2090$5b0aa8c0@JohnS" type="cite"><pre>One thing that looks wrong in your commands is that your paths
"<i><span>/</span>trunk<span>/</span></i><rest of path>..."
are based at root rather than at /home/moko/openmoko...
Try
"quilt add trunk/<rest of path>...."
If that isn't the issue, but rather a typo in your email, look at
patches/input_test.patch.</pre></blockquote>Yes that was a typo. Using the wrong path gives a patch file where everything is added (I tried out of curiosity).<br>
<blockquote cite="http://mid04f601c7bf2a$a77c2090$5b0aa8c0@JohnS" type="cite"><pre>One other thing... after creating the patch, run
make update
before
make openmoko-devel-image
</pre></blockquote>Thanks John, I forgot to actually patch with "make update". <br><br>The patch is then applied (which I can verify by checking the file in "openmoko/trunk/<rest of path>") but it makes no difference to the xml file created in rootfs/usr/share/. I didn't verify if behavior of the executable in rootfs/usr/bin/ changed yet. It was a clean build.
<br><br>Are these files not used in making the image then? What's the point of them being there? Do I need to go back and patch a different set of files instead so the rootfs is made as desired?<br> </div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------
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<br>Subject: Re: How do I include a package in the image?<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">John Seghers wrote:
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm attempting to include a package containing phoneme-feature into an openmoko build.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I've successfully (I think) built the package with the OpenEmbedded arm cross-compiling toolchain and have the .ipk package. I cannot for the life of me find the way to get that package included into the image.
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One assumption I should state first is: /home/moko/build/tmp/rootfs/…. should contain the files from the package if it is installed in the image. Is this correct?
</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I've tried setting the documented IPKG_INSTALL in my bitbake recipe for phoneme. I've tried setting PACKAGE_INSTALL.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I've tried adding the package name to the PACKAGE_INSTALL in openembedded/packages/images/openmoko-<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://image.bb/" target="_blank">
image.bb</a></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can someone please shed some light on this?</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">- John</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </span></font></p></div></blockquote>Here's except I found at <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/FirstProject" target="_blank">
http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/FirstProject</a> which may relate. I'm currently trying to get through some of their documentation myself.<br><br>
<blockquote>
<h2><font size="-1">Adding Packages to an Image </font> </h2>
<p><font size="-1">This I found to be very obscure! There seems to be a peer relationship of the <b><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://task-bootstrap.bb/" target="_blank">task-bootstrap.bb
</a></b> and <b><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://bootstrap-image.bb/" target="_blank">bootstrap-image.bb</a></b>. <b><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://bootstrap-image.bb/" target="_blank">
bootstrap-image.bb</a></b> calls down to <b><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://task-bootstrap.bb/" target="_blank">task-bootstrap.bb</a></b> to get the recipies of the base system built. You would think that all you would have to do to add another package later is to add it to BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS? Not so!
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<p><font size="-1">Adding the package name to BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS merely causes it to be built and packaged (.ipk), but it won't get added to the image! <b><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://bootstrap-image.bb/" target="_blank">
bootstrap-image.bb</a></b> is a controlling recipe but it is <b><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://task-bootstrap.bb/" target="_blank">task-bootstrap.bb</a></b> that decides just what goes into that image. Strange, this caused me no end of removing the tmp directory and doing a fresh build just to add another package. :-(
</font></p><font size="-1">The solution is to rebuild the <b>task-bootstrap</b> package! When you add another package to BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS, merely run <b>bitbake -c rebuild task-bootstrap</b> and <font size="-1">then do a
<b>bitbake bootstrap-image</b>. It seems that <b>task-bootstrap</b> will build the collection (list) of what goes into the image, then <b>bootstrap-image</b><b>task-bootstrap</b> made.</font> populates it from the list</font>
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<p></p><br> </div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Fred Leeflang <<a href="mailto:fredl@3dn.nl">fredl@3dn.nl</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org">openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org
</a><br>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:15:15 +0200<br>Subject: Shipping costs<br>*ugh* the shipping costs to the Netherlands of the Advanced are $104.99<br>Is there any way to get those shipping costs down?<br><br><br><br><br>
---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Chuck Tuffli" <<a href="mailto:chuck@tuffli.net">chuck@tuffli.net</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org">openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org
</a><br>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:06:54 -0700<br>Subject: info on the SMedia 3362<br>I'm interested in the next Neo phone, especially the graphics<br>processor. Are there technical specs (programmer's guide, register
<br>def, etc) available for this part somewhere? What tasks in terms of<br>integrating the 3362 into OpenMoko are the core developers planning to<br>do and what tasks could some help?<br><br>---chuck<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________
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