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SyncML is a very good solution for the most part. Apple should support
SyncML out of the box with iSync. We'll have to develop a *.plist xml
document to handle specifics of the transfer, and maybe a bash script
for installation, but that should be it.<br>
<br>
Dealing with windows will be a bit more of a pain. I'm pretty sure no
implementation of Outlook or Outlook Express support SyncML out of
the box. They do have (limited) support for vCard and iCal
formats for individual file importing/exporting. Windows users could
always install Thunderbird and SyncML extensions, although I think
Mozilla Calendar has the same issues as outlook regarding calendar
syncs. Maybe if the new iTunes can sync phones other than the iPhone...<br>
<br>
I think funambol
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.funambol.com/opensource/project/subsystems.html">http://www.funambol.com/opensource/project/subsystems.html</a>) has open
source clients & plugins that could be used to help people running
Windows. My suggestion is for those people to buy a Mac <span
class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-) </span></span>.<br>
<br>
<br>
Derick Jones wrote:
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have no idea how to program and I just “got” into
linux because I like the whole idea, but as windows user for most of my
life im
so used to point and click and it happens. Honestly if you want to
target this
to average people that’s how it has to be. I mean I installed ubuntu
and
it toke me like 3-4 hours of research just to get my gigabit Ethernet
to work
because it was incompatible with the install. The average person isn’t
going
to have that kind of time to figure out how to sync there neo to their
Windows
PC. I love this whole idea of freedom and im sure most people do. But
if they don’t
get how it works how will they use it? Honestly im devoting a lot of my
time
into reading about linux and openmoko simply because I want to learn
how to be
free and most people don’t know how to even install something in linux.
So
unless there’s some kind of installer that does everything for them its
going to be a big obstacle to over come. Im just an average user and I
love
this because your letting me say what I think even though you have know
Idea
who I am and I thank you for that freedom!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Jones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Cant
wait to get my Neo so that I may be very frustrated, but
gain so much knowledge!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Jeff
Andros
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jeff@bigredtj.com">mailto:jeff@bigredtj.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org">openmoko-devel@lists.openmoko.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Windows Client Software: The hard truth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">It's not anywhere
near that
hard. since we've got a syncML client on the phone (or at least we
will... that's definately a block issue) all we need is a syncml
program for
the desktop side. tossing 'windows syncml -"windows mobile"' into
google gives back results in job-lot quantities... that's about as far
as I
got... I'm not really feeling like evaluating them. <br>
<br>
That said, we probably want to have either an official branded desktop
solution
(the more crossplatform the better) or at least a recommended software
choice. I'm sure there is a open source sync program we could talk to
about some kind of partnership. Not having an official "this will
work with your computer" program would probably be a pretty bad blow to
getting this out to Sean's dad(makes people nervous). While most open
source programs have really great extension mechanisms, there are a lot
of
people who don't want to take the time to set any of that up (how many
people
do you know who run firefox stone stock?). It would be cool to have a
list of desktop software options up on the wiki, but we definitely <br>
<br>
Anyways, I'm really talking out my ear, since I haven't looked at any
of the
included apps yet either(are there any yet?... are we just using the
desktop
program of your choice?).<br>
--Jeff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmailquote">On 7/12/07, <b>Mark</b>
<<a href="mailto:markitect@gmail.com">markitect@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">I have to agree;
when the phone
hits mass availability, the average<br>
user (assuming mass adoption) will be in windows. That would<br>
effectively make it just another phone to them. I guess I just<br>
assumed the linux apps were being written to be easily portable when <br>
the time comes.<br>
<br>
I haven't looked at the Linux host apps at all , but as long as they<br>
are gtk based it might not be too painful. We might also bundle it<br>
with the required cygwin dlls, but personally I hate that solution. <br>
There may also need to be some driver work, does anyone know if it<br>
will show up as a mass storage device to windows?<br>
<br>
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