andy git 06/15 suspend/resume observations

Mike (mwester) mwester at
Fri Jun 20 03:57:40 CEST 2008

Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> Am Fr  20. Juni 2008 schrieb Mike (mwester):
>> neo1973_pm_gsm driver resumes and disables the console -- during this
>> window the GSM would get loads of marvelously confusing output that
>> usually resulted in both GSM and gsmd going out to lunch.  THAT problem
>> can be resolved by removing ttySAC0 as a console altogether.  BUT when
> [...]
>> It's really a horrible,
>> horrible mess, and its so incredibly frustrating to think that there had
>> to have been(![jr]) a meeting at Openmoko/FIC at one point, where SOMEBODY
>> could have said one sentence and had the GSM/console mux changed to
>> GPS/console -- and the grief that would have solved is immeasurable.
> You really expect any of our .tw coworkers

No. My commentary is not directed to the .tw folks.

> (or even me, having enjoyed 6 years 
> of English lessons, and familiar to English data sheets for 20 years now) 
> should exactly understand what you want to communicate?

You're right.  I'm trying to communicate too much and including nuances
that do not translate well in technical terms.

So, here's the really straight, simple, data-sheet translation of the
sentence you marked:

"The design team in charge of the GTA01 made a very poor decision when
they decided to multiplex the console with the GSM.

If an experienced engineer had reviewed the design, that engineer would
have found this design flaw, and it is of such seriousness that it would
not have required more than a single meeting to discuss it.

Significant effort that should have been used elsewhere has been
expended on finding ways to work around this problem in software."

> Probably it would serve even for your own understanding of the situation, if 
> you could find *simple* words to explain it to a majority of people

Well, my understanding of the problem is very clear, but I will be happy
to be more direct with my comments, even if that makes my comments sound
more harsh or critical than intended.

> cheers

Mike (mwester)

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