<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">fyi<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Andy Green <<a href="mailto:andy@openmoko.com">andy@openmoko.com</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">March 19, 2008 6:19:50 AM GMT+08:00</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Werner Almesberger <<a href="mailto:werner@openmoko.org">werner@openmoko.org</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: Adding a system management MPU</b></font></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> </div>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Somebody in the thread at some point said:<br><blockquote type="cite">Andy Green wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">128MBytes of DDR that is in the 6400 MCP can be OK... "too little" for<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">what?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">s3c6400_rev15.pdf, which seems to be our latest source (?), only has<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">these packages (page 10):<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- 256MB OneNAND + 64MB mDDR, or<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- 128MB NAND [1] + 64MB OneDRAM [2] + 64MB mDDR<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[1] plain "NAND" probably has the same useless protection the one in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> our 2442 MCP has, which made us add the NOR.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[2] no idea how this compares with mDDR. It's probably slower but more<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> expensive (dual-ported).<br></blockquote><br>On p34 and p35 of some powerpoint presentation from March 2007, they<br>mention 2Gb OneNand + 2 x 512Mb "DRAM", which is 256KBytes NAND and<br>128KBytes "DRAM". If it later became 64MBytes only that would be<br>starting to get a bit cramped.<br><br>Clearly we need to hear the reality about which versions can actually be<br>had from Samsung and what that does to the pricing.<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">In terms of work the last data we got says they upleveled their BSP to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2.6.21<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">You mean latest data from "S3C6400_6410 feature_070713.pdf" ?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">That file seems to be from July 2007, which is basically when their<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">roadmap says they'll start 2.6.21 development. We can hope they did<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">indeed do this, and have results by now, but then you never know ...<br></blockquote><br>Yeah the data from July 2007 shows they started on 2.6.21 in June 2007,<br>for release in Nov 2007. So: "the last data we got says they upleveled<br>their BSP to 2.6.21".<br><br>- -Andy<br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux)<br>Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</a><br><br>iD8DBQFH4EAGOjLpvpq7dMoRAohcAJ0Y+E8iz+tQrDsrBA7/A6Nm1cZpqgCfZ5zJ<br>GOzQe9YNFs8e/3upzgiD9eQ=<br>=E5lo<br>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>